I was almost impounded, laptop saved me
Ignoramus28336
Wes
>details later
Well since you managed to post this it sounds like you are walking free. Curiousity
piqued.
Wes
Stormin Mormon
several big cops cram into a cell with night sticks, and
infract you, also?
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details later
Ignoramus28336
I rented a lowboy and picked up the mill. I was going slowly and
stoped to check that the straps are tight. A police car pulled by and
the officer asked if I was OK, I said yes, thank you Sir. After a few
words exchanged, I continued on my way. The policeman followed me a
bit and then flashed his lights. This time he asked for DL and
insurance, which I produced. He told me that my truck was missing some
kind of sticker about its certification to carry weight. I do not
remember what it is exactly and will find out.
Then he came back and told me that my class D drivers license allows
me to only pull vehicles with total weight rating of up to 22,000 lbs
(says on the license), and the capacity of my vehicle and trailer was
26,000 lbs. So, according to them (another one pulled up) I was in
violation and not permitted to drive this weight rating due to
deficient drivers license. My trailer was to be impounded (it is a
rental!) and the impound fee was $500.
I was, as you can imagine, very excited about the prospect of this
mill being snowed on in the impound lot while I find ways to get it
out or get a Class C license. The impound fee was what I paid for the
mill.
Then a tow truck pulled by to impound my trailer.
I asked the police officers "are you sure about this" and they said
yes, and yet I wondered how a rental agency would let me rent this.
I had a laptop with me and it had a special wireless broadband
card. So, I googled "Illinois class C license weight" and found this
page:
http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/drivers/drivers_license/il_license_class.html
It said that Class D license allows: ``Any single vehicle with a GVWR
of 16,000 pounds or less towing any vehicle providing the GCWR does
not exceed 26,000 pounds.''
I was not exceeding that. The rental guys did not give me a trailer
that I could not tow.
I showed this to the police officers , they talked a bit and then told
me that they are giving me the "benefit of the doubt" and that
Illinois is all screwed up because of conflicting laws. I ended up
still being fined with that sticker fine, but let go. Not many people
drive away happy because of a police stop and a $75 fine.
So I wonder whether this was an honest mistake on their part, or
not. I tend to think that it was an honest mistake on their part.
i
Pete C.
Fun stuff.
Probably a good idea to print out all potentially relevant laws and keep
them in the truck for any future fun.
I haven't heard of a class D license before, both states I've been in
didn't have anything below C. You should probably look into upgrading to
a C. I expect it's just an excuse to charge more for the upgraded
license, but it will at least put you on par with what most states have
as the base license.
Joe Pfeiffer
>
> So I wonder whether this was an honest mistake on their part, or
> not. I tend to think that it was an honest mistake on their part.
If it hadn't been an honest mistake, you'd be trying to get your trailer
out of impound right now.
Really, something like 99 44/100 % of the time, these things really are
honest mistakes.
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be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours;
and this we should do freely and generously. (Benjamin Franklin)
Joe Pfeiffer
>
> I haven't heard of a class D license before, both states I've been in
> didn't have anything below C. You should probably look into upgrading to
> a C. I expect it's just an excuse to charge more for the upgraded
> license, but it will at least put you on par with what most states have
> as the base license.
googlegooglegoogle... in NM, the standard noncommercial license is a
Class D.
Existential Angst
Great story, a keeper!
Almost reminds me of Garcia (the pyooter research whiz) on Criminal Minds.
Hilarious!
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EA
>
> i
cl...@snyder.on.ca
<pfei...@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote:
>"Pete C." <aux3....@snet.net> writes:
>>
>> I haven't heard of a class D license before, both states I've been in
>> didn't have anything below C. You should probably look into upgrading to
>> a C. I expect it's just an excuse to charge more for the upgraded
>> license, but it will at least put you on par with what most states have
>> as the base license.
>
>googlegooglegoogle... in NM, the standard noncommercial license is a
>Class D.
And in Canada (Ontario anyway) it is a G (for General) add M for
Motorcycle. and ML for limited motorcycle.
d: Light commercial Any truck or motor vehicle combination exceeding
11,000 kg provided the towed vehicle is not over 4,600 kg
a: Any tractor-trailer or combination of motor vehicle and towed
vehicles where the towed vehicles exceed a total gross weight of 4,600
kilograms
AR: Effective June 16, 2008:
Drivers with a restricted Class A licence condition would be prevented
from operating:
a motor vehicle pulling double trailers
a motor vehicle pulling a trailer with air-brakes.
B: Any school purposes bus with designed seating capacity for more
than 24 passengers
C: Any regular bus with designed seating capacity for more than 24
passengers
E: School purposes bus - maximum of 24 passenger capacity
F: Regular bus maximum of 24 passenger capacity and ambulances
An A is good for D,G, and A.
The B is good for C, D, E, F and G
The C is good for D, F and G
D is also good for G.
E is good for F and G
F is good for G.
Add Z to any class for air brakes (AZ, BZ, DZ, etc)
Years ago there was just the O (Operators) and C (Chauffeurs) with the
C required for any commercial use.
cl...@snyder.on.ca
In Zambia the muffler on my '49 VW was GONE. Pretty noizy. Got cited
for a defective exhaust - 75 Kwatcha fine (more than I paid for the
car). I went down to the Boma and asked to see the schedule of fines.
There was a fine for "no muffler installed" - 15 Kwatcha ( a Kwatcha
at the time was the same as a Rand - about $2.65). I showed the
attending officer there was NO muffler on the car and got away with
15K fine.
Gunner Asch
I cant speak for the Peoples Republik of Illinois..but such behavior in
the Peoples Republik of California is becoming more and more previlent
as the cops are trying to get more and more fines layed so the
departments and agencies can get relief in a rapidly declining tax base.
Im driving like a Believer these days.
Gunner
Whenever a Liberal utters the term "Common Sense approach"....grab your
wallet, your ass, and your guns because the sombitch is about to do
something damned nasty to all three of them.
Pete C.
Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
>
> "Pete C." <aux3....@snet.net> writes:
> >
> > I haven't heard of a class D license before, both states I've been in
> > didn't have anything below C. You should probably look into upgrading to
> > a C. I expect it's just an excuse to charge more for the upgraded
> > license, but it will at least put you on par with what most states have
> > as the base license.
>
> googlegooglegoogle... in NM, the standard noncommercial license is a
> Class D.
Google is crap. Altavista is vastly better.
Pete C.
You should also investigate that mysterious "weight sticker" thing. 90%
probability you will find that it is not applicable to non-commercial
vehicles.
RogerN
"Ignoramus28336" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.28336.invalid> wrote in message
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It's bad that you need a laptop and wireless broadband because the police
don't know the law. I guess it's guilty until proven innocent? I just wish
you could sue the police for trying to impound you because of their mistake,
they need to be held accountable for their actions. They will have to be
more careful and make sure not to pull over people with wireless broadband.
I have a 1 ton pickup truck and always thought it would be nice to have a
large capacity trailer so I could take my forklift with me to a machinery
auction and haul some toys home.
RogerN
Ignoramus26053
Yes, I will check, but I have a "D" plate, so here the policeman may
have been right
i
Ignoramus26053
>
> It's bad that you need a laptop and wireless broadband because the police
> don't know the law.
Yes, and it could be much, much worse.
> I guess it's guilty until proven innocent? I just wish you could
> sue the police for trying to impound you because of their mistake,
> they need to be held accountable for their actions. They will have
> to be more careful and make sure not to pull over people with
> wireless broadband.
I do not think that I can sue them for trying to impound it, but if
they did, I would have a case.
> I have a 1 ton pickup truck and always thought it would be nice to have a
> large capacity trailer so I could take my forklift with me to a machinery
> auction and haul some toys home.
I will personally get a Class C license, just in case.
i
Larry Jaques
<aux3....@snet.net> scrawled the following:
On what search type do you base that statement, Pete?
I buy a vast diversity of product types over the Web and have found
that Google best served my searches for them. Maybe it's the Frugal
Searcher's dream engine. <g>
I tried the others for a week, including Creative Commons, Clusty,
Bing, Yahoo, Searchalot, and All the Internet, and found fewer valid
hits in the first few pages on each (compared to Google.)
I just added AltaVista and will try it, too.
--
The blind are not good trailblazers.
-- federal judge Frank Easterbrook
john
In some states you need a medical for anything over 18,000 lb. single
or combination ( trailer ) PA is one state that requires a medical.
John
Buerste
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On a four lane road, I was driving East-bound while a school bus was stopped
with red lights flashing in the West-bound curb lane. I kept driving. A
cop pulls me over and is about to ticket me for not stopping for the school
bus. I JUST happen to have the Ohio road rules book and pointed out to the
cop that I don't have to stop on a four lane road. He was young and
embarrassed and called in to check the law. He let me go but said I should
stop anyway for the kid's sake. I said I would and that was a good idea.
ALWAYS give a way to save face to a guy with a gun.
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Pete C.
I've been considering getting a non-commercial class A license so I have
maximum flexibility.
Roger Shoaf
"Ignoramus26053" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.26053.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> I will personally get a Class C license, just in case.
>
> i
Before you go changing your drivers license, why don't you go to the highway
patrol office and get the exact story on what your current license allows
you to haul.
The weight sticker thing is as I understand it for commercial vehicles and
is there for calculating weight fees, so that might not be applicable to non
commercial hauling.
By getting a different license and a commercial classification on your
vehicle, you might be incurring multiple headaches such as increased
insurance rates, inspections and other regulatory BS that would cost you
more than hiring a truck to haul the big stuff.
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2] Position on the food chain.
Up North
"Roger Shoaf" <sh...@nospamsyix.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Ignoramus26053" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.26053.invalid> wrote in message
> news:Ld-dnSzZg-k56w_W...@giganews.com...
>>
>> I will personally get a Class C license, just in case.
>>
>> i
>
> Before you go changing your drivers license, why don't you go to the
> highway
> patrol office and get the exact story on what your current license allows
> you to haul.
>
> The weight sticker thing is as I understand it for commercial vehicles and
> is there for calculating weight fees, so that might not be applicable to
> non
> commercial hauling.
Commercial is when you are making or trying to make money with the goods you
are hauling, I believe Iggy falls under this category.
>
>
> By getting a different license and a commercial classification on your
> vehicle, you might be incurring multiple headaches such as increased
> insurance rates, inspections and other regulatory BS that would cost you
> more than hiring a truck to haul the big stuff.
And it might keep you out of the hoo-scow
Steve
Wes
>Commercial is when you are making or trying to make money with the goods you
>are hauling, I believe Iggy falls under this category.
I believe this instance of tool purchase is for his own personal use.
Wes
Wes
>> It's bad that you need a laptop and wireless broadband because the police
>> don't know the law.
>
>Yes, and it could be much, much worse.
Yes it could. Had they realized what you were up to, they could have used the 'officer
safety' card to keep you from going on line and possibly summoning help. They have wide
latitude in restricting your actions during a stop.
Had they improperly impounded your trailer, you would then have to sue in court for
relief. At the same time your bridgeport would be rusting away in open storage and
impound fees would be accruing that you would have to win a suit against the governmental
unit in order to have paid. Then there is the matter of damages and I'm sure their idea
of damages is just what you paid and nothing more. My bud calls that sort of situation a,
"Nine line bind".
I'm sure glad you came out whole.
Wes
RogerN
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It would make more sense if commercial is when the actual hauling was for
money, else everybody that made a living using their hands would have to get
a commercial license or leave their hands at home, not to mention what part
many bosses would have to leave home :-)
RogerN
Steve W.
No such animal any longer.
Class A,B,C are all CDL.
Used to be that you could get one and then if you were hauling personal
items you didn't have to worry about much. Now you have to have a
current medical ID to drive any vehicle if you have a CDL.
They have been changing the laws a bunch over the past couple years.
PLUS the states can still enact stricter laws. Some states are really
cracking down on heavy looking loads. Others are enacting BS laws that
will catch you for odd crap. Florida put into effect a law that was
tagging a lot of Suburban, Excursion, Dually owners for driving out of
class. It made big news in the RV/Trailer crowd for a few months.
--
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Up North
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I know that and so do you but His Honor might need more "splainin". There
was a case a few years ago that a guy towing a snowmobile trailer was pulled
over and fined for not having a commercial vehicle inspection sticker on his
one ton truck and tandem axle trailer. He claimed it was a hobby but lost in
court because he was hauling sleds to a race that had prize money awarded to
contestants. If you cross state lines that opens up a whole new can of
worms.
Steve
Wes
Yes, and the courts have a bias to supporting the officers that did the traffic stop.
Mutual respect and revenue.
Wes
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government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller
Pete C.
Last I looked non-commercial A still existed here.
Cydrome Leader
nice save.
It sounds like that if they really wanted to completely ruin your day,
they could have- as in bust you then try to sort things out later and
ignore whatever crap you pulled up on some laptop.
You even got pulled over twice, the second time because it took a while
for them to find another reason to stop you (no sticker).
Steve W.
I would check REAL close. Federal law doesn't allow it any longer and
A,B,C class tags fall under Federal Motor Carrier jurisdiction.
PA just enacted a bunch of new laws or faced elimination of 22 million
in federal funding.
Many states have already changed the laws because of this.
--
Steve W.
Cydrome Leader
considering he does lots of buying and reselling of stuff, this is
questionable.
Ignoramus26053
>
> "Ignoramus26053" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.26053.invalid> wrote in message
> news:Ld-dnSzZg-k56w_W...@giganews.com...
>>
>> I will personally get a Class C license, just in case.
>>
>> i
>
> Before you go changing your drivers license, why don't you go to the highway
> patrol office and get the exact story on what your current license allows
> you to haul.
>
> The weight sticker thing is as I understand it for commercial vehicles and
> is there for calculating weight fees, so that might not be applicable to non
> commercial hauling.
>
>
> By getting a different license and a commercial classification on your
> vehicle, you might be incurring multiple headaches such as increased
> insurance rates, inspections and other regulatory BS that would cost you
> more than hiring a truck to haul the big stuff.
Maybe they screwed me even on that. I ask myself the same
question. But I figure that going to court over it is not worth the
bother. If I was retired, I would definitely go.
I am now taking a dimmer view of this situation. I think that these
policemen were on the prowl for suckers to replenish the coffers of
that particular town. But, they had enough common sense to know that
when someone figured out their BS, they should promptly back off.
If this happened in Russia, there would be no chance that I could get
away without giving these policemen a bribe. What I see in the Unuited
states is far, far better. I have never been asked for a bribe
here. The policemen yesterday were a little overzealous, but, I would
say, not for any immediate personal interest.
i
Ignoramus26053
Yes, indeed.
i
Ignoramus26053
Wes, you are indeed 100% on the mark. I think that with the judge in
cohorts with the administration and police, I am sure that I would
have gotten the mill back, at the expense of a lagel process, and I
would never be made whole.
i
cl...@snyder.on.ca
wrote:
>
>"Roger Shoaf" <sh...@nospamsyix.com> wrote in message
>news:12679092...@news01.syix.com...
>>
>> "Ignoramus26053" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.26053.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:Ld-dnSzZg-k56w_W...@giganews.com...
>>>
>>> I will personally get a Class C license, just in case.
>>>
>>> i
>>
>> Before you go changing your drivers license, why don't you go to the
>> highway
>> patrol office and get the exact story on what your current license allows
>> you to haul.
>>
>> The weight sticker thing is as I understand it for commercial vehicles and
>> is there for calculating weight fees, so that might not be applicable to
>> non
>> commercial hauling.
>
>
>Commercial is when you are making or trying to make money with the goods you
>are hauling, I believe Iggy falls under this category.
>
>
Commercial is hauling ANY goods that are not your personal posession,
whether for gain or not. At least that's how it is interpreted up
here.
Ignoramus26053
> Ignoramus28336 <ignoram...@nospam.28336.invalid> wrote:
>> I rented a lowboy and picked up the mill. I was going slowly and
>> stoped to check that the straps are tight. A police car pulled by and
>> Then he came back and told me that my class D drivers license allows
>> me to only pull vehicles with total weight rating of up to 22,000 lbs
...
>> I had a laptop with me and it had a special wireless broadband
>> card. So, I googled "Illinois class C license weight" and found this
>> page:
...
>> I showed this to the police officers , they talked a bit and then told
>> me that they are giving me the "benefit of the doubt" and that
...
> nice save.
> It sounds like that if they really wanted to completely ruin your day,
> they could have- as in bust you then try to sort things out later and
> ignore whatever crap you pulled up on some laptop.
>
> You even got pulled over twice, the second time because it took a while
> for them to find another reason to stop you (no sticker).
I was pulled over only once. The first time I stopped by myself, to
check my rigging, and then the police pulled in. I always stop after
driving 1-2 initial miles, as straps need some tightening.
I think that what helped is that I acted relatively cool, did not spit
at them, etc. I read a book on how to be assertive, a while ago, and
followed it. This really helps in many encounters.
That said, to their credit, the police officers were friendly and
fair.
i
azotic
"Ignoramus26053" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.26053.invalid> wrote in message
>
> I am now taking a dimmer view of this situation. I think that these
> policemen were on the prowl for suckers to replenish the coffers of
> that particular town. But, they had enough common sense to know that
> when someone figured out their BS, they should promptly back off.
>
> i
Check out the violation number on the ticket, it may be bougus.
A chicago cop gave me a ticket once and just made up a violation.
Went to court and asked for a reading of the law, thats when the
judge dismissed the ticket. They are hoping most people will just
pay the the ticket.
Illinois $13 billion budget deficit.
Best Regards
Tom.
Ignoramus26053
>
> Commercial is hauling ANY goods that are not your personal posession,
> whether for gain or not. At least that's how it is interpreted up
> here.
Then it was not commercial, since the mill was mine.
Let's say that you go to Walmart to buy a stapler that you want to use
in your business. Is that a "commercial hauling"? Not really.
i
Pete C.
Well, fortunately I'm in Texas, which routinely tells the feds where to
go and what to do. Dunno, every license I've ever had has been C, even
my first license back in CT.
Martin H. Eastburn
looking for a gram of drugs. Then give you a street full of parts.
That happened to my son in California as his truck was once owned
by a bad guy - bought at a police auction and reconditioned, sold by
a friend of the family to son...
Great truck, but he was stopped twice for the other guy. The second time,
he, the cop, recognized a change of interior and driver - let him go. The
first time his complete contents of the truck was on the highway. insurance,
CD's, tools and school papers.
Martin
Ignoramus26053
> I can see out of control types that would take apart the mill
> looking for a gram of drugs. Then give you a street full of parts.
>
> That happened to my son in California as his truck was once owned
> by a bad guy - bought at a police auction and reconditioned, sold by
> a friend of the family to son...
>
> Great truck, but he was stopped twice for the other guy. The second time,
> he, the cop, recognized a change of interior and driver - let him go. The
> first time his complete contents of the truck was on the highway. insurance,
> CD's, tools and school papers.
Did your son receive any compensation?
i
Wes
>Commercial is hauling ANY goods that are not your personal posession,
>whether for gain or not. At least that's how it is interpreted up
>here.
I've helped my sister move twice. Wasn't paid, didn't want reimbursment, I *hope* that is
a Canadian interpretation and not a US one.
Wes
Wes
>I can see out of control types that would take apart the mill
>looking for a gram of drugs. Then give you a street full of parts.
>
>That happened to my son in California as his truck was once owned
>by a bad guy - bought at a police auction and reconditioned, sold by
>a friend of the family to son...
>
>Great truck, but he was stopped twice for the other guy. The second time,
>he, the cop, recognized a change of interior and driver - let him go. The
>first time his complete contents of the truck was on the highway. insurance,
>CD's, tools and school papers.
Did he agree to a search? Some people give away their rights at the start of the
encounter. I've been asked twice if law enforcement could search my car. Both times I
said no, not without a warrant, and both times they let me go. Michigan and South
Carolina were the two locations.
Wes
dca...@krl.org
wrote:
> I can see out of control types that would take apart the mill
> looking for a gram of drugs. Then give you a street full of parts.
>
> That happened to my son in California as his truck was once owned
> by a bad guy - bought at a police auction and reconditioned, sold by
> a friend of the family to son...
>
> Great truck, but he was stopped twice for the other guy. The second time,
> he, the cop, recognized a change of interior and driver - let him go. The
> first time his complete contents of the truck was on the highway. insurance,
> CD's, tools and school papers.
>
> Martin
Did the police have a warrant?
Dan
Spehro Pefhany
I had NY state-based US border guys make some comments that indicated
I should be paying NY state road tax for bringing a small carton of
electronics I'd built to an airport courier depot (it was for
business). They didn't actually do anything, but I suspect if it had
been something physically large or heavy they might have. I would be a
bit cautious when answering questions that appear to be along that
line from regular police officers about things in your car (since it's
probably them that actually enforce such things), and certainly not
volunteer information that could lead to problems. But most would
probably ASS-U-ME a big, heavy greasy machine is for business and not
personal.
Most people have little exposure to machinery these days. One asked me
if the car (the wife's station wagon at the time) could handle the
item I was picking up in Chicago (a 500lb Diacro punch- from azotic).
I had to bite my lip to not comment that a couple guys his size in the
back seat would _easily_ exceed that. ;-) Diplomacy and all that..
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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Martin H. Eastburn
I suppose a ticket if he didn't pick it up.
Sometimes those guys have special reasons to do this and that -
like the previous owner was in their hands and got away when they
didn't check him out... something like that. Revenge looking...
Martin
Martin H. Eastburn
your feet apart - you want to say no ? This was a small insider
county. One would have thought they would have known.
Sons landlord a few years ago flew to Phoenix started a bar fight
and stayed a month in jail.
Martin
Martin H. Eastburn
Martin
Ignoramus10008
permission to search. They may say something "open your trunk" or "if
you have done nothing wrong, you would not mind us looking into your
car, now would you" or "I need to search your car, hand me your keys".
This is a good video on the subject. A must see for every citizen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqMjMPlXzdA
i
Stormin Mormon
reasonable, to me. Of course, we could back up a couple
steps and remind these folks that if they were strictly
legal, they wouldn't have many of these problems. Don't use
street drugs, and don't have loud parties.
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mike
Ignoramus10008 wrote:
> It is very difficult to even recognize that the police is asking for a
> permission to search. They may say something "open your trunk" or "if
> you have done nothing wrong, you would not mind us looking into your
> car, now would you" or "I need to search your car, hand me your keys".
>
> This is a good video on the subject. A must see for every citizen.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqMjMPlXzdA
>
Good video, thanks for the link; and, congrats on your acquisition,
looks like a nice machine.
But, the video brings up this change of subject:
I'm on dial-up at the house so don't even try to watch any videos
there, but at work we have DSL, so I was able to view it - the couple
times I started the video, it would run for a few minutes, then sort
of freeze - after waiting a bit and trying to restart the video to no
avail, I reloaded the page, and did so 3 times to get to about the 25
minute mark. I next tried clicking on the ad link after starting the
video (so some google ad stayed visible at the bottom of the video
window) and it then proceeded to play for the full duration.
So, the question for the group is, does this sound like the normal
'youtube' experience, or is there something else I could have done to
make the video display without having to reload the page 5 or six
times?
Thanks,
Mike
Cydrome Leader
I forgot to ask, were they local cops or from the county or state?
Wes
>Good video, thanks for the link; and, congrats on your acquisition,
>looks like a nice machine.
>
> But, the video brings up this change of subject:
>
> I'm on dial-up at the house so don't even try to watch any videos
>there, but at work we have DSL, so I was able to view it - the couple
>times I started the video, it would run for a few minutes, then sort
>of freeze - after waiting a bit and trying to restart the video to no
>avail, I reloaded the page, and did so 3 times to get to about the 25
>minute mark. I next tried clicking on the ad link after starting the
>video (so some google ad stayed visible at the bottom of the video
>window) and it then proceeded to play for the full duration.
>
>So, the question for the group is, does this sound like the normal
>'youtube' experience, or is there something else I could have done to
>make the video display without having to reload the page 5 or six
>times?
I'm on 1M/384K D/U dsl. I used firefox with the Downloadhelper add in. I had no
problems snagging the 96.8 MB file in flv form.
Wes
Ignoramus8009
Local cops from the local village.
i
mike
Wes wrote:
> I'm on 1M/384K D/U dsl. I used firefox with the Downloadhelper add in. I had no
> problems snagging the 96.8 MB file in flv form.
>
> Wes
I'll have to give that a try, thanks. Any caveats about Flash
delivering unwanted stuff or malicious files?
Thanks for the info.
Mike
Wes
>I'll have to give that a try, thanks. Any caveats about Flash
>delivering unwanted stuff or malicious files?
There have been patches to flash and shockwave issued quiet often. Keep your system
patched.
I use the Flashblock add in with firefox so most flash never gets executed on my pc. Btw,
DownloadHelper seems to work fine with Flashblock.
In the meantime, I downloaded the larger MP4 version 135MB w/o any problems.
Wes
Stormin Mormon
remembered the URL. And download it to file. FLV or some
other format. Bring it home on flash drive.
--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
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mike
All right, thanks for the pointers, got some more reading to do now.
Mike
mike
Stormin Mormon wrote:
> Mine played through. You can log onto www.savetube.com if I
> remembered the URL. And download it to file. FLV or some
> other format. Bring it home on flash drive.
>
I'll have to give that a look, thanks.
Mike
Martin H. Eastburn
They can easily steam roll young people.
Martin
Bruce L. Bergman
>"Ignoramus26053" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.26053.invalid> wrote in message
>news:npidnYD-0__aZQ_W...@giganews.com...
>> I am now taking a dimmer view of this situation. I think that these
>> policemen were on the prowl for suckers to replenish the coffers of
>> that particular town. But, they had enough common sense to know that
>> when someone figured out their BS, they should promptly back off.
>
>Check out the violation number on the ticket, it may be bogus.
>A chicago cop gave me a ticket once and just made up a violation.
>Went to court and asked for a reading of the law, thats when the
>judge dismissed the ticket. They are hoping most people will just
>pay the the ticket.
>
>Illinois $13 billion budget deficit.
Or they heard the Heavy Russian accent on the first "Is everything
all right?" stop (Sorry Iggy, but the welder video doesn't lie...)
And got up the courage for the second stop - they thought they could
get away with hitting you up for a "donation to the Policeman's Ball."
You slide them a $100 bill or two each, and the problems mystically
vanish - "You're good to go, sir, Have a nice day!!"
This is Chicago and environs, that's Standard Operating Procedures.
But you showed initiative and proved that the "charges" they thought
up clearly do not apply to your situation - and even then, if this
goes to court for that last little charge you be sure to tell the
Judge all the interesting details of this traffic stop.
Sit down and take VERY detailed notes of everything that was said,
every detail you can remember, because I guarantee that the Cops did.
The Judge gives your word a lot more weight in court when you say "let
me refer to the notes taken ten minute after the stop..."
If you have audio or better video of the encounter... ;-)
I wouldn't be surprised if the judge tosses the whole thing out, or
the cops move to dismiss the ticket before even going to court when
you show intentions of talking to a Judge about it.
Okay, on to the legal points.
There ARE rules that trucks in commercial use have to post the
company legal name, any federal MVC or State Motor Carrier permit
numbers, and the rated GVWR on the doors.
But that is for Commercial trucks and usually for Over 10,000# GVWR
only, there are exemptions for Personal use of medium trucks "Not For
Hire"
I checked - I have a 4-tire C-3500 that is (just!) under 10,000#
gross, and doesn't trigger any of the other rules for commercial use
requiring the extra inspections, and a Federal MVC or CA MC Permit,
and a Class B commercial license, Medical Certificate and all the
other falderol.
If it did, I'd have to pull through every Weigh Station every time
I pass one, and that's just asking for trouble. They can always find
something I'm out of compliance on, and crank up the revenue machine.
--<< Bruce >>--
Ignoramus5886
Bruce, I do not think that they were soliciting a bribe, and it was
not even in Chicago. I think that they were collectig money on behalf
of the village.
i
Roger Shoaf
"Ignoramus10008" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.10008.invalid> wrote in message
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> It is very difficult to even recognize that the police is asking for a
> permission to search. They may say something "open your trunk"
OK right after you show me the search warrant that particularly describes
what you can search and what exactly you are looking for.
or "if
> you have done nothing wrong, you would not mind us looking into your
> car, now would you"
Gee officer you have made a great point, and I, as a civic minded type of
guy would be happy to have you follow me to the court house and watch you
persuade the judge to issue a warrant. Besides it would be great practice
for you so that when you need to search a bad guys property all of your hard
work will not get the case tossed out for violating the rules.
or "I need to search your car, hand me your keys".
Right after you hand me the search warrant.
--
Roger Shoaf
About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then
they come up with this striped stuff.
RBnDFW
> "Ignoramus10008" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.10008.invalid> wrote in message
> news:muGdnZs5MdQc7gnW...@giganews.com...
>> It is very difficult to even recognize that the police is asking for a
>> permission to search. They may say something "open your trunk"
>
> OK right after you show me the search warrant that particularly describes
> what you can search and what exactly you are looking for.
>
> or "if
>> you have done nothing wrong, you would not mind us looking into your
>> car, now would you"
>
> Gee officer you have made a great point, and I, as a civic minded type of
> guy would be happy to have you follow me to the court house and watch you
> persuade the judge to issue a warrant. Besides it would be great practice
> for you so that when you need to search a bad guys property all of your hard
> work will not get the case tossed out for violating the rules.
>
>
>
> or "I need to search your car, hand me your keys".
>
> Right after you hand me the search warrant.
"Officer, I have lawyers in my family. If they ever heard I'd consented
to a warrantless search, I'd never live it down"
Bob Engelhardt
> "Officer, I have lawyers in my family. If they ever heard I'd consented
> to a warrantless search, I'd never live it down"
>
That's perfect - non confrontational, friendly even.
Bob