For once, I wish I lived somewhere icy
Christopher Tidy
http://www.vintageprojects.com/go-kart/pdf/Snowsled.pdf
Now I think the Hardy Boys had a fictional sled at one point, in a book
long ago. Anyone ever build a real one?
Chris
Robert Swinney
Steve B
That looks scary. Particularly braking. A dive buddy of mine from hard hat
days came from Michigan. His brother built race engines, and hillclimb
Jeeps. He took one of the big Olds Toronado front wheel drive engines,
bolted it onto a tubular frame chassis on the rear, put ice lugs on it, and
they used to ride out to their ice shack at 120 mph. THAT was one narly
looking beast. Had ice lug tires on the back as big as dragster slicks.
Spikes about 2" long.
Never rode in it. Never wanted to.
Steve
Ecnerwal
"Steve B" <desert...@dishmail.net> wrote:
> "Christopher Tidy" <cdt22...@cantabgold.net> wrote in message
> news:4B27BC2A...@cantabgold.net...
> > Just found these plans. Way cool. If I lived somewhere icy, I'd build one
No need to be icy - it's an airboat, that happens to be oddly (and
non-KISS) powered and which won't float if the ice breaks. So slap a
boat under it, and it's an airboat that will float which you can play
with where it's warm, and power more appropriately. IIRC for typical
airboats, this (hardly surprising given the vintage) is what would be
considered "severely underpowered" along with being non-KISS.
For KISS and more power, perhaps go see what you can find for crashed
shaft-drive motorcycles with working motors. Getting the cooling air
flow right would be tricky with a chain-drive.
Or just grab a V8 like most of the airboats seem to.
Or build a hovercraft.
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Jim Wilkins
<MyNameForw...@ReplaceWithMyVices.Com.invalid> wrote:
> In article <8fskv6-aoo....@news.infowest.com>,
> "Steve B" <deserttra...@dishmail.net> wrote:
>
> > "Christopher Tidy" <cdt22NOS...@cantabgold.net> wrote in message
...
A snowmobile will easily go fast enough to jump airborne when it hits
a pressure ridge you didn't see because everything is the same shade
of white. Then depending on the angle it hit it rolls sideways until
it lands.
Ed Huntress
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I have a great plan for an iceboat powered by a four-cylinder motorcycle
engine, from _The Boy Mechanic_ published in the early '50s. It's one heck
of an ambitious project, with a streamlined fuselage and runner suspension.
People must have really gotten into their hobby projects in those days.
--
Ed Huntress
Christopher Tidy
> That looks scary. Particularly braking. A dive buddy of mine from hard hat
> days came from Michigan. His brother built race engines, and hillclimb
> Jeeps. He took one of the big Olds Toronado front wheel drive engines,
> bolted it onto a tubular frame chassis on the rear, put ice lugs on it, and
> they used to ride out to their ice shack at 120 mph. THAT was one narly
> looking beast. Had ice lug tires on the back as big as dragster slicks.
> Spikes about 2" long.
Sounds wild. Would have loved to have seen it!
When I first saw those plans, I imagined a vehicle that could travel on
snow as well as ice. Like a snowmobile. Am I wrong or can some
propeller-driven sleds do this?
Chris
Christopher Tidy
> I have a great plan for an iceboat powered by a four-cylinder motorcycle
> engine, from _The Boy Mechanic_ published in the early '50s. It's one heck
> of an ambitious project, with a streamlined fuselage and runner suspension.
> People must have really gotten into their hobby projects in those days.
I've seen some fascinating sets of plans from that era. Is it an iceboat
powered by a propeller, or by some kind of wheel which digs into the ice?
Chris
Christopher Tidy
Christopher Tidy
Ed Huntress
It has a propeller -- a two-bladed, wooden, light-aircraft prop. It's
two-place front-to-back. Very slick. Very big project.
You might find this book in a local library. It was pretty common at one
time. It has loads of good projects, including a crossbow you can build in
various versions up to 350-lb.-drawweight; a very small and simple iceboat;
and a kayak that I built when I was a kid. It also has a bunch of
science-project-type electric motors, including a tin-can motor that I built
with my son when he was little, and a little demo-type impulse steam
turbine, with boiler. A few of the projects require a metalworking lathe.
Imagine having one of those. <g>
--
Ed Huntress
Ed Huntress
There's a brave man. I can picture that chain wrapped around my neck.
--
Ed Huntress
Ed Huntress
Here's an early one from Modern Mechanix. No streamlining:
--
Ed Huntress
Steve W.
http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/12655
Grab the .pdf version for all the diagrams and designs.
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Ed Huntress
"Steve W." <csr...@NOTyahoo.com> wrote in message
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I think that's the first version. It's full of good stuff, but it's not the
volume that contains the streamlined ice boat.
--
Ed Huntress
Christopher Tidy
> Here's an early one from Modern Mechanix. No streamlining:
>
>
>>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/12/05/motorcycle-engine-powers-high-speed-ice-zipper/?Qwd=./HowToBuildIt/1-1932/ice_zipper&Qif=ice_zipper_1.jpg&Qiv=thumbs&Qis=XL#qdig<
Neat. Would love to ride one of those. Here are a few other interesting
links I found:
http://www.vintageprojects.com/go-kart/pdf/Snowmobile.pdf
http://www.oobject.com/category/snowmobiles-through-history/
Chris
Christopher Tidy
>>>It has a propeller -- a two-bladed, wooden, light-aircraft prop. It's
>>>two-place front-to-back. Very slick. Very big project.
>>>
>>>You might find this book in a local library. It was pretty common at one
>>>time. It has loads of good projects, including a crossbow you can build
>>>in
>>>various versions up to 350-lb.-drawweight; a very small and simple
>>>iceboat;
>>>and a kayak that I built when I was a kid. It also has a bunch of
>>>science-project-type electric motors, including a tin-can motor that I
>>>built
>>>with my son when he was little, and a little demo-type impulse steam
>>>turbine, with boiler. A few of the projects require a metalworking lathe.
>>>Imagine having one of those. <g>
>>>
>>
>>http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/12655
>>
>>Grab the .pdf version for all the diagrams and designs.
>>
>>--
>>Steve W.
>
>
> I think that's the first version. It's full of good stuff, but it's not the
> volume that contains the streamlined ice boat.
Just checked it. There's an ice boat in there, but sadly not a motorised
one. Not that it matters, as I can't build one due to a lack of ice. As
someone said, an airboat would be a better project. But some of the
projects from that era are great. It was before my time, but I'm glad I
still built fire bells and tesla coils instead of playing on a Nintendo.
Chris
RoyJ
is much higher than the skates on a decent ice boat or motorized
derivation like these are. Any of the prop style machines should be
capable of the 50mph to 75 mph range on ice.
back in the 50's, a typical snowmobile went 25 mph on steel tracks, the
Tucker snow cats were about the same speed. These days you can get stock
sleds up to the 120 range or more. A buddy of mine has his personal sled
that goes 160 or so. He wrenches for a race team doing sleds on grass.
(Hey, what else do you do when it's not white out??)
I used to sell for a supplier of snowmobile components used by one of
the major manufacturers. All the high end sleds used normalized 4130 for
the suspension components. Checking the specs, it's half again stronger
than the equivalent 1018 drawn tube but hardly worth the extra money.
But when you look at the impact strength at -40F, it's almost 10x
higher. Keeps the guys from breaking suspension parts when you hit a
pressure ridge at 100mph late at night.
Christopher Tidy
> Prop drive and snow really don't mix very well, the friction on the snow
> is much higher than the skates on a decent ice boat or motorized
> derivation like these are. Any of the prop style machines should be
> capable of the 50mph to 75 mph range on ice.
>
> back in the 50's, a typical snowmobile went 25 mph on steel tracks, the
> Tucker snow cats were about the same speed. These days you can get stock
> sleds up to the 120 range or more. A buddy of mine has his personal sled
> that goes 160 or so. He wrenches for a race team doing sleds on grass.
> (Hey, what else do you do when it's not white out??)
Now that's an idea. Limited to grass in good weather, though :-(.
> I used to sell for a supplier of snowmobile components used by one of
> the major manufacturers. All the high end sleds used normalized 4130 for
> the suspension components. Checking the specs, it's half again stronger
> than the equivalent 1018 drawn tube but hardly worth the extra money.
> But when you look at the impact strength at -40F, it's almost 10x
> higher. Keeps the guys from breaking suspension parts when you hit a
> pressure ridge at 100mph late at night.
For once, I found some good stuff on YouTube. This is what I had in
mind. Old school, maybe inefficient, but appealing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofe-G6imaIQ
There's also a snow mobile built using plans from Popular Science magazine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kI6m3LWm1d0
Chris
axolotl
>
> I think that's the first version. It's full of good stuff, but it's not the
> volume that contains the streamlined ice boat.
>
It is in the 1952 edition, on page 52.
Kevin Gallimore
Ed Huntress
"axolotl" <munge...@shorecomp.com> wrote in message
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I'm guessing you have the book? Or did you find it online?
--
Ed Huntress
RoyJ
axolotl
>
> I'm guessing you have the book? Or did you find it online?
>
Yes, I have the book. What is more remarkable is that I found it when I
looked for it.
Kevin Gallimore
Ed Huntress
Ha-ha! I know that feeling. <g>
So, what do you think? Is that a big project, or what?
--
Ed Huntress
Larry Jaques
<cdt22...@cantabgold.net> scrawled the following:
Hey, just build one and take it up Ben Nevis for the day, Chris.
That's a good lad. ;)
P.S: I've heard that it snows in the UK about as much as it does in
Southern California. If I should ever wish to visit it, there is snow
on Mt. Ashland during the winter and spring, and that's within an
hour's drive of me here in Southern Oregon.
--
Every day above ground is a Good Day(tm).
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Larry Jaques
<desert...@dishmail.net> scrawled the following:
>
>"Christopher Tidy" <cdt22...@cantabgold.net> wrote in message
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>> Just found these plans. Way cool. If I lived somewhere icy, I'd build one:
>> http://www.vintageprojects.com/go-kart/pdf/Snowsled.pdf
>>
>> Now I think the Hardy Boys had a fictional sled at one point, in a book
>> long ago. Anyone ever build a real one?
>>
>> Chris
>
>That looks scary. Particularly braking.
Indeed. BUT, one could put wheels and brake hubs on it and run it on
abandoned airfields or grassy fields, eh? Non-aerodynamic, it
probably slows considerably quickly when the prop isn't turning much.
>A dive buddy of mine from hard hat
>days came from Michigan. His brother built race engines, and hillclimb
>Jeeps. He took one of the big Olds Toronado front wheel drive engines,
>bolted it onto a tubular frame chassis on the rear, put ice lugs on it, and
>they used to ride out to their ice shack at 120 mph. THAT was one narly
>looking beast. Had ice lug tires on the back as big as dragster slicks.
>Spikes about 2" long.
>
>Never rode in it. Never wanted to.
Nope, not if it could dig holes in the ice and dunk/drown you for it.
Wes
>Just found these plans. Way cool. If I lived somewhere icy, I'd build one:
>http://www.vintageprojects.com/go-kart/pdf/Snowsled.pdf
>
>Now I think the Hardy Boys had a fictional sled at one point, in a book
>long ago. Anyone ever build a real one?
It will be -2F tonight. That is -18.9C for your frame of reference. I don't remember the
sled in the Hardy Boys. I *thought* I had read them all before I started reading Nancy
Drew ;)
I gave up on going fast in the cold years ago.
Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller
Michael A. Terrell
Wes wrote:
>
> Christopher Tidy <cdt22...@cantabgold.net> wrote:
>
> >Just found these plans. Way cool. If I lived somewhere icy, I'd build one:
> >http://www.vintageprojects.com/go-kart/pdf/Snowsled.pdf
> >
> >Now I think the Hardy Boys had a fictional sled at one point, in a book
> >long ago. Anyone ever build a real one?
>
> It will be -2F tonight. That is -18.9C for your frame of reference. I don't remember the
> sled in the Hardy Boys. I *thought* I had read them all before I started reading Nancy
> Drew ;)
As long as you didn't read the'Nancy Boys' books. ;-)
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Christopher Tidy
I'll look out for a copy.
Chris
Christopher Tidy
> P.S: I've heard that it snows in the UK about as much as it does in
> Southern California. If I should ever wish to visit it, there is snow
> on Mt. Ashland during the winter and spring, and that's within an
> hour's drive of me here in Southern Oregon.
Yes, but the lack of snow is made up for by rain. I don't think that
happens in So. Cal., does it?
It probably snows here once a year, but it doesn't last long.
Chris
Christopher Tidy
> Christopher Tidy <cdt22...@cantabgold.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Just found these plans. Way cool. If I lived somewhere icy, I'd build one:
>>http://www.vintageprojects.com/go-kart/pdf/Snowsled.pdf
>>
>>Now I think the Hardy Boys had a fictional sled at one point, in a book
>>long ago. Anyone ever build a real one?
>
>
> It will be -2F tonight. That is -18.9C for your frame of reference. I don't remember the
> sled in the Hardy Boys. I *thought* I had read them all before I started reading Nancy
> Drew ;)
Just had a look through my collection. The sled is in #33, "The Yellow
Feather Mystery" (original text version). Built by Chet, as you might
imagine :-).
Chris
William Wixon
> http://www.vintageprojects.com/go-kart/pdf/Snowsled.pdf
>
> Now I think the Hardy Boys had a fictional sled at one point, in a book
> long ago. Anyone ever build a real one?
>
>
i wonder if any of the links that have been posted were for the prop driven
ice boat that i saw pictures of a while back but have no idea how to get
back there to post a link. i saw photos of a prop driven ice boat, i can't
even remember if it was a pusher or a tractor, that had a "whip" of (a
dozen?) kids behind on ice skates. i'd imagine anyone looking at that photo
these days (it may have even been posted here a couple years ago) would say
"WOW THAT LOOKS DANGEROUS!" was a funny old timey photo, where people did
stuff dangerous stuff like that without even a second thought. was funny.
wish i could post the link.
b.w.
ATP*
"Wes" <clu...@lycos.com> wrote in message
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> Christopher Tidy <cdt22...@cantabgold.net> wrote:
>
>>Just found these plans. Way cool. If I lived somewhere icy, I'd build one:
>>http://www.vintageprojects.com/go-kart/pdf/Snowsled.pdf
>>
>>Now I think the Hardy Boys had a fictional sled at one point, in a book
>>long ago. Anyone ever build a real one?
>
> It will be -2F tonight. That is -18.9C for your frame of reference. I
> don't remember the
> sled in the Hardy Boys. I *thought* I had read them all before I started
> reading Nancy
> Drew ;)
>
always serves the guests and defers to her husband. They have one fat friend
who is obsessed with food, and the bad guy was a typical Spanish type, small
and excitable.....
Stupendous Man
> snow as well as ice. Like a snowmobile. Am I wrong or can some
> propeller-driven sleds do this?
Depends on where you are. Lots of things work well on the flats, but here in
the Sierras, it is a bit challenging.
We like to ride about 50 miles south of where the Donner party had their
mis-adventure.
Some days we can climb any mountain with our 20 year old snowmobiles, but
most days we have limitations.
Lakes at 10000 Ft are not frozen enough for us to go out on, but we do cross
shallow creeks.
I am going up tomorrow.
Plenty of Archimedes screw vehicles have been tried, here is an interesting
one, later in the film chainguards appear
http://www.flixxy.com/snow-vehicle-concept.htm
--
Stupendous Man,
Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
axolotl
> I bought a few at Costco for my son. Mrs. Hardy is slim, attractive and
> always serves the guests and defers to her husband. They have one fat friend
> who is obsessed with food, and the bad guy was a typical Spanish type, small
> and excitable.....
You need to find the originals at a used book store. Much more
interesting. When my son was (perhaps?) 8, I asked him what was on his
Christmas list. The answer? "An ultralight airplane and a revolver".
Frank Hardy had a revolver.
Ed started this... I went off on a jihad to find a photo of a propeller
driven iceboat on the Navesink...puller, not pusher...didn't find it.
There appears to be a fair amount of coincidental places in the Hardy
Boys books and south of Ed in the Bayshore area.
Stratemeyer (who ran the syndicate that published the Hardy Boys books)
has been reported to have had a summer house in Atlantic Highlands
(Bayport). The old mill (on Whippoorwill Valley road), the Shore Road
(upper and lower Scenic Drive), The house on the cliff, the train to New
York, all point to the area.
But the books were ghostwritten by a Canadian. Go figure.
If you're a SF guy, Fritz Leiber uses Atlantic Highlands as Bayport in
Conjure Wife. At one time he lived on Avenue D.
Kevin Gallimore
Ed Huntress
Did he fish for stripers or bluefish? <g> Say "Atlantic Highlands," and
that's what I think of. 'Fish on the brain, especially in this rotten cold
weather...
--
Ed Huntress
axolotl
axolotl
> Did he fish for stripers or bluefish?<g> Say "Atlantic Highlands," and
> that's what I think of. 'Fish on the brain, especially in this rotten cold
> weather...
>
Let's try this again.
Recorded history is silent on the subject of these two authors and their
fish. During the time described one could probably eat the fish that
could be caught in the nearby waters. Moreover, a plethora of writers,
from Melville to Hemingway to Brautigan, have shown the intimate
relationship between authors and the slimy denizens of the deep.
Clearly, one sees here strong circumstantial evidence pointing to both
wetting a line. But there is a more important question here- stripers or
bluefish? It is possible, both men being non-native, that they would try
to snare these species. Locals know that stripers or bluefish are only
good for feeding to the cat. It is more likely that as authors, they
were attracted to the bottom dwelling types.
And for large metal apparatus and the Hardy Boys, I had my wedding
reception in the building that has "The Disappearing Floor".
Kevin Gallimore
Ed Huntress
> On 12/17/2009 7:02 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
>
>> Did he fish for stripers or bluefish?<g> Say "Atlantic Highlands," and
>> that's what I think of. 'Fish on the brain, especially in this rotten
>> cold
>> weather...
>>
> Let's try this again.
>
> Recorded history is silent on the subject of these two authors and their
> fish. During the time described one could probably eat the fish that could
> be caught in the nearby waters. Moreover, a plethora of writers, from
> Melville to Hemingway to Brautigan, have shown the intimate relationship
> between authors and the slimy denizens of the deep.
There must be some connection.
> Clearly, one sees here strong circumstantial evidence pointing to both
> wetting a line. But there is a more important question here- stripers or
> bluefish? It is possible, both men being non-native, that they would try
> to snare these species. Locals know that stripers or bluefish are only
> good for feeding to the cat. It is more likely that as authors, they were
> attracted to the bottom dwelling types.
Ha. A fluke eater, eh? Or blackfish? <g>
axolotl
> Ha. A fluke eater, eh? Or blackfish?<g>
Guilty as charged.
As you know this time of year, in this weather, you can sometimes get
ling in the surf by grabbing them. My friend Carl would take his gunning
dog for a walk on the beach. The dog would see the flash of fish, dive
in, and strut back with a ling flapping in her mouth.
These days, I find it is less effort to have the waitress bring the fish
to me.
Kevin Gallimore
Ed Huntress
> On 12/17/2009 8:09 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
>
>> Ha. A fluke eater, eh? Or blackfish?<g>
>
> Guilty as charged.
>
> As you know this time of year, in this weather, you can sometimes get ling
> in the surf by grabbing them.
I didn't know that, but it doesn't surprise me.
> My friend Carl would take his gunning dog for a walk on the beach. The dog
> would see the flash of fish, dive in, and strut back with a ling flapping
> in her mouth.
>
> These days, I find it is less effort to have the waitress bring the fish
> to me.
I have some catching up to do on posting recipes, but you'd probably like my
Broiled Ling with Bacon Bits. So would the dog.
--
Ed Huntress
Larry Jaques
<cdt22...@cantabgold.net> scrawled the following:
>Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>> P.S: I've heard that it snows in the UK about as much as it does in
>> Southern California. If I should ever wish to visit it, there is snow
>> on Mt. Ashland during the winter and spring, and that's within an
>> hour's drive of me here in Southern Oregon.
>
>Yes, but the lack of snow is made up for by rain. I don't think that
>happens in So. Cal., does it?
It's a desert. 15" a year. Well, in a monsoonal year, anyway.
>It probably snows here once a year, but it doesn't last long.
Ditto here in So Oregon. We occasionally see flakes but it seldom
sticks around long enough to build up on surfaces (twice in my 7 years
here, IIRC.)
--
Indifference to evidence: Climate alarmists have become brilliantly
adept at changing their terms to suit their convenience. So it's
"global warming" when there's a heat wave, but it's "climate change"
when there's a cold snap. The earth has registered no discernable
warming in the past 10 years: Very well then, they say, natural
variability must be the cause. But as for the warming that did occur
in the 1980s and 1990s, that plainly was evidence of man-made warming.
Am I missing something here? --Brett Stephens, WSJ Opinion 12/09/09
Wes
> As long as you didn't read the'Nancy Boys' books. ;-)
I'm afraid to even ask what that is.
ATP*
> On 12/16/2009 10:20 PM, ATP* wrote:
>
>> I bought a few at Costco for my son. Mrs. Hardy is slim, attractive and
>> always serves the guests and defers to her husband. They have one fat
>> friend
>> who is obsessed with food, and the bad guy was a typical Spanish type,
>> small
>> and excitable.....
>
> You need to find the originals at a used book store. Much more
> interesting.
I didn't realize that the Hardy Boys novels I read as a kid were revisions
from 1959 on. Also dug up this interesting reference page:
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/The_Hardy_Boys
Michael A. Terrell
Wes wrote:
>
> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > As long as you didn't read the'Nancy Boys' books. ;-)
>
> I'm afraid to even ask what that is.
The punch line from an old 'Saturday Night Live' skit about the
network canceling 'The hardy Boys' and 'Nancy Drew' series. "But on the
bright side, they are going combine the shows into 'The Nancy Boys'!" :)
I think it was done by Dan Ackroid.
John Husvar
"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Wes wrote:
> >
> > "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > > As long as you didn't read the'Nancy Boys' books. ;-)
> >
> > I'm afraid to even ask what that is.
>
>
> The punch line from an old 'Saturday Night Live' skit about the
> network canceling 'The hardy Boys' and 'Nancy Drew' series. "But on the
> bright side, they are going combine the shows into 'The Nancy Boys'!" :)
> I think it was done by Dan Ackroid.
Well, there _is_ a rather cute novel named The Ananzi Boys which uses
several African etc. trickster myths. Not a bad read.
Gunner Asch
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 02:43:30 +0000, the infamous Christopher Tidy
><cdt22...@cantabgold.net> scrawled the following:
>
>>Larry Jaques wrote:
>>
>>> P.S: I've heard that it snows in the UK about as much as it does in
>>> Southern California. If I should ever wish to visit it, there is snow
>>> on Mt. Ashland during the winter and spring, and that's within an
>>> hour's drive of me here in Southern Oregon.
>>
>>Yes, but the lack of snow is made up for by rain. I don't think that
>>happens in So. Cal., does it?
>
>It's a desert. 15" a year. Well, in a monsoonal year, anyway.
Central Cal of course gets 4" per year. Course...we have been in 5 yrs
of drought so far....so I think its been about 3" each year
>
>
>>It probably snows here once a year, but it doesn't last long.
>
>Ditto here in So Oregon. We occasionally see flakes but it seldom
>sticks around long enough to build up on surfaces (twice in my 7 years
>here, IIRC.)
"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.
This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost
Christopher Tidy
> On 12/16/2009 10:20 PM, ATP* wrote:
>
>> I bought a few at Costco for my son. Mrs. Hardy is slim, attractive and
>> always serves the guests and defers to her husband. They have one fat
>> friend
>> who is obsessed with food, and the bad guy was a typical Spanish type,
>> small
>> and excitable.....
>
>
> You need to find the originals at a used book store. Much more
> interesting. When my son was (perhaps?) 8, I asked him what was on his
> Christmas list. The answer? "An ultralight airplane and a revolver".
> Frank Hardy had a revolver.
The originals are much better. In the revised books they substituted
foreign travel for decent writing.
> Ed started this... I went off on a jihad to find a photo of a propeller
> driven iceboat on the Navesink...puller, not pusher...didn't find it.
>
> There appears to be a fair amount of coincidental places in the Hardy
> Boys books and south of Ed in the Bayshore area.
>
> Stratemeyer (who ran the syndicate that published the Hardy Boys books)
> has been reported to have had a summer house in Atlantic Highlands
> (Bayport). The old mill (on Whippoorwill Valley road), the Shore Road
> (upper and lower Scenic Drive), The house on the cliff, the train to New
> York, all point to the area.
> But the books were ghostwritten by a Canadian. Go figure.
Are you talking about the area around the Bayport, NY? I read that the
town itself is pretty different from the Bayport of the books.
It has finally snowed here. 1/2 inch, maybe 1 inch. Not enough for a
propeller sled yet. But I just acquired another, more climate-suitable
project as an early Christmas present...
Enjoy Christmas!
Chris
Bill McKee
I understand the latest Hardy boys are very close to the originals. Some
guy looked at his kids Hardy Boys book and realized it had been PC'ed. Got
the rights to the originals and got a reissue of the originals.
http://www.mysterynet.com/books/testimony/hardyboys/
Seems to tell the story.
axolotl
> Are you talking about the area around the Bayport, NY? I read that the
> town itself is pretty different from the Bayport of the books.
I am talking about Atlantic Highlands, NJ, the mythical "Bayport" in
several books.
If you are short of snow, we in Jersey (as in New) can spare you a
couple of feet.
Kevin Gallimore
Ed Huntress
We got off easy here -- around 10 inches. What did you get?
My son finished his finals on Friday just as the snow was starting where he
goes to school (Lexington, VA), and they then had a 40-year record, with
around 15 - 18 inches. It took him two days to get home.
--
Ed Huntress
axolotl
> We got off easy here -- around 10 inches. What did you get?
About 2 feet, now fast melting.
>
> My son finished his finals on Friday just as the snow was starting where he
> goes to school (Lexington, VA), and they then had a 40-year record, with
> around 15 - 18 inches. It took him two days to get home.
We got the baby home from Pennsylvania after finals on Friday, before
the storm began. My son came home from Cape Cod (without any problems)
on Wednesday. Everyone is together and life is good.
Ed and Everyone:
Please accept my best wishes during the holidays.
Kevin Gallimore
Ed Huntress
> On 12/24/2009 12:39 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
>
>> We got off easy here -- around 10 inches. What did you get?
>
> About 2 feet, now fast melting.
>>
>> My son finished his finals on Friday just as the snow was starting where
>> he
>> goes to school (Lexington, VA), and they then had a 40-year record, with
>> around 15 - 18 inches. It took him two days to get home.
>
> We got the baby home from Pennsylvania after finals on Friday, before the
> storm began. My son came home from Cape Cod (without any problems) on
> Wednesday. Everyone is together and life is good.
'Sounds good. My neighbor across the street has a son at Penn State. He beat
the snow home, just barely, after a late Friday afternoon final. Then he and
the neighbors started watching the driveway for my son. It worried everyone,
but he made it fine.
>
> Ed and Everyone:
> Please accept my best wishes during the holidays.
>
> Kevin Gallimore
To you and yours, too, Kevin. It's nice to have everyone together at home.
--
Ed Huntress