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Just How Far Behind Is Gibbscam?

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Joe788

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Nov 19, 2009, 11:39:21 PM11/19/09
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It's easy enough to see for yourself where using Delcam For SolidWorks
interactive feature recognition you tell it what feature you wish to
create and then pick the SolidWorks feature from the SolidWorks
Feature Manager or the SolidWorks graphics area and for anything
you've created the technology for and stored you're done. No chaining,
no enter in machining parameters, no enter in the tool definition on
the fly, no pick the tool from the tool library, no set the lead in
and lead out. That's it. Your done.

Now lets look at a stand-alone approach. Not as good but passable...
for now. I doubt it will be for much longer as fully intergrated
CADCAM has too many advantages.

DP Technology Esprit 2010 has something called FX which imports the
SolidWorks Feature Manager and even use's all the same icons
SolidWorks does to recreate the SolidWorks Feature Manager inside of
Esprit 2010... I don't believe any feature recognition is done, I
believe it's all data taken from the SolidWorks file. While this
approach isn't as good as running inside of SolidWorks it's far better
than Gibbscam which has no fucking clue what a SolidWorks feature even
is!

In this mostly sales gimmick video a few very important things can be
seen in regards to DP Technology Esprit 2010:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu1f04ai8Ro

1. The SolidWorks Feature Manager from the part is transferred into
Esprit 2010.

2. Esprit 2010 has the highest level of MachineWorks integration of
any CAM program.

3. I love how Esprit allows you to edit the properties of just about
anything in its Property Manager.

Cliff

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Nov 20, 2009, 7:20:26 AM11/20/09
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On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:39:21 -0800 (PST), Joe788 <larry...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>It's easy enough to see for yourself where using Delcam For SolidWorks

You are not.
Why not?
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Cliff

Cliff

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Nov 20, 2009, 7:22:50 AM11/20/09
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On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:39:21 -0800 (PST), Joe788 <larry...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>It's easy enough to see for yourself where using Delcam For SolidWorks
>interactive feature recognition you tell it what feature you wish to
>create and then pick the SolidWorks feature from the SolidWorks
>Feature Manager or the SolidWorks graphics area and for anything
>you've created the technology for and stored you're done. No chaining,
>no enter in machining parameters, no enter in the tool definition on
>the fly, no pick the tool from the tool library, no set the lead in
>and lead out. That's it. Your done.

It's good to know that any minimum wage clerk can do the job with
5 minutes training.
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Cliff

Cliff

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Nov 20, 2009, 7:24:17 AM11/20/09
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On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:39:21 -0800 (PST), Joe788 <larry...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>It's easy enough to see for yourself where using Delcam For SolidWorks
>interactive feature recognition you tell it what feature you wish to
>create and then pick the SolidWorks feature from the SolidWorks
>Feature Manager or the SolidWorks graphics area and for anything
>you've created the technology for and stored you're done. No chaining,
>no enter in machining parameters, no enter in the tool definition on
>the fly, no pick the tool from the tool library, no set the lead in
>and lead out. That's it. Your done.

Gee, you coud just use DelCAM & save some money & bother, right?
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Cliff

Cliff

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Nov 20, 2009, 7:27:04 AM11/20/09
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On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:39:21 -0800 (PST), Joe788 <larry...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Now lets look at a stand-alone approach. Not as good but passable...
>for now. I doubt it will be for much longer as fully intergrated
>CADCAM has too many advantages.

Can you still get a seat of CADDS III or AD-2000 from 30 to 40
years ago?
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Cliff

Cliff

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Nov 20, 2009, 7:28:24 AM11/20/09
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On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:39:21 -0800 (PST), Joe788 <larry...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>DP Technology Esprit 2010 has something called FX which imports the
>SolidWorks Feature Manager and even use's all the same icons
>SolidWorks does to recreate the SolidWorks Feature Manager inside of
>Esprit 2010... I don't believe any feature recognition is done, I
>believe it's all data taken from the SolidWorks file. While this
>approach isn't as good as running inside of SolidWorks it's far better
>than Gibbscam which has no fucking clue what a SolidWorks feature even
>is!

So you don't have a clue.
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Cliff

Joe788

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Nov 20, 2009, 4:51:05 PM11/20/09
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Just how incompetent is Jon Banquer?

....Incompetent enough that he's struggled for months with a decade
old feature, mask on arc.

...Incompetent enough that he had to sign up at emastercam with a fake
name, to get help with selecting and open pocket.

...Incompetent enough to Jihad about Configurations and Assemblies in
Solidworks are a "far better solution than stupid fucking levels" in
Mastercam. The two items are so unrelated, it's like saying,
"Shoelaces are a better solution than rocket ships."

....Incompetent enough to struggle with chaining, and then Jihad about
it all over the internet, only to find out later that he was doing it
completely wrong.

....Incompetent enough to to tell REAL Gibbs users what their software
can or can't do. Only to be pwned by actual screen shots, showing
exactly what Jon said didn't exist.

...Incompetent enough to.....jeez I better stop now. This list could
take all day to compile when you try to factor in all of his different
insane CAD Jihad stages over the last 8 years.

Joe788

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Nov 20, 2009, 6:28:48 PM11/20/09
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Joe788

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Nov 21, 2009, 3:04:09 AM11/21/09
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Cliff

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Nov 21, 2009, 11:00:32 AM11/21/09
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On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:28:48 -0800 (PST), Joe788 <larry...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>It's easy enough to see for yourself where using Delcam For SolidWorks
>interactive feature recognition you tell it what feature you wish to
>create and then pick the SolidWorks feature from the SolidWorks
>Feature Manager

But you told us to export the SW part to another system to make
changes !!!
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Cliff

Cliff

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Nov 21, 2009, 11:05:17 AM11/21/09
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On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:28:48 -0800 (PST), Joe788 <larry...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Now lets look at a stand-alone approach. Not as good but passable...
>for now. I doubt it will be for much longer as fully intergrated
>CADCAM has too many advantages.

So you EXPORT to DP Technology Esprit 2010
(NOT an integrated CAD/CAM system) AND/OR
add a bit of DelCAM as third party software to SW!!!
Again NOT an integrated CAD/CAM system.
You could easily have version conflicts too.

Plus upgrade paths .. etc.
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Cliff

Joe788

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Nov 22, 2009, 12:30:25 PM11/22/09
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Cliff

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Nov 23, 2009, 4:28:18 AM11/23/09
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On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:30:25 -0800 (PST), Joe788 <larry...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>has something called

<snicker>
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Cliff

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