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Cliff

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Feb 11, 2010, 2:40:24 AM2/11/10
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"Mystery swirls around George W. Bush 'Miss me yet?' billboard"
[
For all of the wonderful things life in the Internet age provides us, there are
some notable drawbacks. One of them is that email and popular social media tools
like Twitter and Facebook provide powerful launching pads for unchecked rumors
and popular myths. Often these rumors and myths are proven false by websites
like Snopes.com and FactCheck.org, but not this time.

The Internet has been abuzz with rumors that if you drive down Interstate 35
near the town of Wyoming, Minnesota, you'll see a billboard bearing the image of
a smiling George W. Bush accompanied by the question "Miss me yet?" The online
rumors were confirmed by this image:
.....
]

Karl Townsend

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Feb 11, 2010, 4:20:53 AM2/11/10
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...

> The Internet has been abuzz with rumors that if you drive down Interstate
> 35
> near the town of Wyoming, Minnesota, you'll see a billboard bearing the
> image of
> a smiling George W. Bush accompanied by the question "Miss me yet?" The
> online
> rumors were confirmed by this image:

I, for one, was glad to see the Chaney (Bush) administration go. One year
later, I'm thinking they were better than the current clown. But its like
comparing which tit is more useless on a boar hog. We seem to be going down
the toilet. This country really needs another Kennedy or Reagan.

Karl


Cliff

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Feb 11, 2010, 6:24:30 AM2/11/10
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The wingers left a lasting impression.
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Cliff

Stu Fields

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Feb 11, 2010, 2:20:02 PM2/11/10
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"Karl Townsend" <karltown...@embarqmail.com> wrote in message
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Karl: I hope you don't mind if I send your note around. The boar hog note
hit my funny bone pretty hard, and at my advanced age my funny bone has lost
its sensitivity.
I don't know about the Kennedy or Regan, I do think that we need someone to
halt the steady growth of the governments, county, state and federal. Soon
the government work force will be a majority and I can't imagine what that
does for the economy, let alone our freedoms.

Stu Fields


Buerste

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Feb 11, 2010, 2:29:13 PM2/11/10
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"Karl Townsend" <karltown...@embarqmail.com> wrote in message
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We create less wealth than we distribute. What's wrong with that? Who's
going to change that inertia?

Hawke

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Feb 11, 2010, 3:18:06 PM2/11/10
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Buerste wrote:

>>> The Internet has been abuzz with rumors that if you drive down
>>> Interstate 35
>>> near the town of Wyoming, Minnesota, you'll see a billboard bearing
>>> the image of
>>> a smiling George W. Bush accompanied by the question "Miss me yet?"
>>> The online
>>> rumors were confirmed by this image:
>>
>> I, for one, was glad to see the Chaney (Bush) administration go. One
>> year later, I'm thinking they were better than the current clown. But
>> its like comparing which tit is more useless on a boar hog. We seem
>> to be going down the toilet. This country really needs another Kennedy
>> or Reagan.
>>
>> Karl
>>
>>
>>
>
> We create less wealth than we distribute. What's wrong with that?
> Who's going to change that inertia?


Not the republicans, that's for sure. But how come you guys all keep
thinking that the disaster the Bush/Cheney regime caused would be all
fixed in a year? You act like Obama can't do anything worth a darn but
you're all upset that he hasn't got the country to where it's going
great again. If you actually know how bad a mess that Bush got the
country in how can you expect anyone to have it back where it should be
in only 12 months? I guess you must have a lot more belief in Obama than
I do. He will get things fixed eventually unless the republicans stop
everything. In that case nothing will ever get better. Vote for them if
you like things just like they are now, no worse.

Hawke

SaPeIsMa

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Feb 11, 2010, 9:25:18 PM2/11/10
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"Stu Fields" <e...@iwvisp.com> wrote in message
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That's an easy one
The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen

SaPeIsMa

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Feb 11, 2010, 9:24:42 PM2/11/10
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"Karl Townsend" <karltown...@embarqmail.com> wrote in message
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Another Kennedy ?
LOL
Kennedy was the start of the Vietname war and the "Great Society" increase
in organized welfare.

Humperdink

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Feb 11, 2010, 9:40:44 PM2/11/10
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On Feb 11, 4:20 am, "Karl Townsend" <karltownsend....@embarqmail.com>
wrote:

Ummm, kindly specify which Kennedy. I'll reserve comment until you
clarify. Thanks

Humperdink

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Feb 11, 2010, 9:45:03 PM2/11/10
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On Feb 11, 3:18 pm, Hawke <davesmith...@digitalpath.net> wrote:
> Buerste wrote:
> >>> The Internet has been abuzz with rumors that if you drive down
> >>> Interstate 35
> >>> near the town of Wyoming, Minnesota, you'll see a billboard bearing
> >>> the image of
> >>> a smiling George W. Bush accompanied by the question "Miss me yet?"
> >>> The online
> >>> rumors were confirmed by this image:
>
> >> I, for one, was glad to see the Chaney (Bush) administration go. One
> >> year later, I'm thinking they were better than the current clown. But
> >> its like comparing which tit is more useless on a boar hog.  We seem
> >> to be going down the toilet. This country really needs another Kennedy
> >> or Reagan.
>
> >> Karl
>
> > We create less wealth than we distribute.  What's wrong with that?  
> > Who's going to change that inertia?
>
> Not the republicans, that's for sure. But how come you guys all keep
> thinking that the disaster the Bush/Cheney regime caused would be all
> fixed in a year? You act like Obama can't do anything worth a darn

Buerste acts like that??? It's 0bama that acts like that, and he's
the one that counts.

> but
> you're all upset that he hasn't got the country to where it's going
> great again. If you actually know how bad a mess that Bush got the
> country in how can you expect anyone to have it back where it should be
> in only 12 months? I guess you must have a lot more belief in Obama than
> I do. He will get things fixed eventually unless the republicans stop
> everything. In that case nothing will ever get better. Vote for them if
> you like things just like they are now, no worse.
>
> Hawke

Things will right themselves eventually. Sooner if 0bama stays out of
the way.

F. George McDuffee

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Feb 11, 2010, 9:55:12 PM2/11/10
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On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 04:20:53 -0500, "Karl Townsend"
<karltown...@embarqmail.com> wrote:

<snip>


>This country really needs another Kennedy or Reagan.

<snip>
=================
A major problem is that the leader and the times must match.

Kennedy was the right [enough] leader for his times as Reagan was
for his. It is doubtful that either one would have anywhere the
same degree of success in the current [poisonous]
socio-political/economic environment.

The big danger is that the current situation may be the perfect
environment for a Huey Long, an American Peron or even an
American edition of Stalin/Mao/Hitler.

Already we have managed to largely externalize accountability for
our financial/social problems on "outside agitators" and external
forces, e.g. the dastardly Chinese Communists and reprehensible
Arab fundamentalists that forced our na�ve Federal government to
borrow trillions of dollars and tricked the U.S. citizens into
buying their consumer products and oil. ;-<


Unka George (George McDuffee)
..............................
The past is a foreign country;
they do things differently there.
L. P. Hartley (1895-1972), British author.
The Go-Between, Prologue (1953).

Ignoramus5688

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Feb 11, 2010, 10:13:05 PM2/11/10
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On 2010-02-12, F George McDuffee <gmcd...@mcduffee-associates.us> wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 04:20:53 -0500, "Karl Townsend"
>>This country really needs another Kennedy or Reagan.
> A major problem is that the leader and the times must match.
>
> Kennedy was the right [enough] leader for his times as Reagan was
> for his. It is doubtful that either one would have anywhere the

A professor in my business school once said, regarding corporate
leaders, that charismatic leaders usually get their businesses in a
lot of trouble.

I thought about this statement for a long time and believe it to be a
good generalization.

i

Don Foreman

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Feb 12, 2010, 12:23:17 AM2/12/10
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On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:55:12 -0600, F. George McDuffee
<gmcd...@mcduffee-associates.us> wrote:

>distro pruned to AMC & RCM
>
>On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 04:20:53 -0500, "Karl Townsend"
><karltown...@embarqmail.com> wrote:
><snip>
>>This country really needs another Kennedy or Reagan.
><snip>
>=================
>A major problem is that the leader and the times must match.
>
>Kennedy was the right [enough] leader for his times as Reagan was
>for his. It is doubtful that either one would have anywhere the
>same degree of success in the current [poisonous]
>socio-political/economic environment.
>
>The big danger is that the current situation may be the perfect
>environment for a Huey Long, an American Peron or even an
>American edition of Stalin/Mao/Hitler.
>
>Already we have managed to largely externalize accountability for
>our financial/social problems on "outside agitators" and external
>forces, e.g. the dastardly Chinese Communists and reprehensible
>Arab fundamentalists that forced our na�ve Federal government to
>borrow trillions of dollars and tricked the U.S. citizens into
>buying their consumer products and oil. ;-<
>
>
>Unka George (George McDuffee)

Like Pogo Possum said...

SaPeIsMa

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Feb 12, 2010, 12:29:23 AM2/12/10
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"Humperdink" <hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 11, 4:20 am, "Karl Townsend" <karltownsend....@embarqmail.com>
wrote:
> ...
>
> > The Internet has been abuzz with rumors that if you drive down
> > Interstate
> > 35
> > near the town of Wyoming, Minnesota, you'll see a billboard bearing the
> > image of
> > a smiling George W. Bush accompanied by the question "Miss me yet?" The
> > online
> > rumors were confirmed by this image:
>
> I, for one, was glad to see the Chaney (Bush) administration go. One year
> later, I'm thinking they were better than the current clown. But its like
> comparing which tit is more useless on a boar hog. We seem to be going
> down
> the toilet. This country really needs another Kennedy or Reagan.
>
> Karl
#
# Ummm, kindly specify which Kennedy. I'll reserve comment until you
# clarify. Thanks

Which Kennedy was President, humpy ?

Too_Many_Tools

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Feb 12, 2010, 12:47:00 AM2/12/10
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> Hawke- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Hawke is correct.

If McCain/Palin would have won the 2008 election (shudder ;<) ), what
would they have done any different?

Bush left this Country in a death spiral.

Obama has been able to stop it but the losses will linger for
generations.

TMT

F. George McDuffee

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Feb 12, 2010, 1:20:23 AM2/12/10
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============
This is indeed a generalization with some large amount of truth,
however...

To be sure a charismatic leader, corporate or political, can and
frequently have lead [or driven] the lemmings over the cliff,
however, depending on the organizational problems and structure,
a charismatic leader may be just what is needed *IN THE SHORT-
TERM* from the perspective of the organization.

It is worth noting that if you can't/don't get through the
short-term, there is no need to worry about the long-term.

The major problem of charismatic leadership is generally the
choice/succession/legitimecy of a new leader, compounded by the
frequent failure of the charismatic leader to know when it is
time to quit.

One example of the right charismatic person, in the right place,
at the right time, was Lee Iacocca at Chrysler.

In hindsight, serious question can be raised about the aggregate
socital/economic benefit of Mr. Iacocco's [charismatic]
leadership in revitalizing Chrysler, in that it may have well
been better [or at least much cheaper/less disruptive] to have
the Chrysler corporation go bankrupt and be liquidated in 1979,
thus reducing excess [obsolete] domestic vehicle production
capacity and serving as a warning/example to GM and Ford as well
as Wall Street and the individual stock/bond traders/speculators.

This may have been what your professor was talking about.

A 1979 bankruptcy would also have avoided having large numbers of
additional people attempting to establish design, engineering,
manufacturing, sales, marketing, etc. careers at Chrysler and
their suppliers. The pensions and other retirement benefits of
these now stranded and redundant employees have been severely
reduced by the deferred Chrysler bankruptcy in May, 2009, and
much of the existing liability has potentially been transferred
to the U.S. taxpayers through the PBGC guarantees.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/195551
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/01/business/01auto.html
http://www.pbgc.gov/media/news-archive/news-releases/2009/pr09-23.html

Hawke

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Feb 12, 2010, 1:40:21 AM2/12/10
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>>> We create less wealth than we distribute. What's wrong with that?
>>> Who's going to change that inertia?
>> Not the republicans, that's for sure. But how come you guys all keep
>> thinking that the disaster the Bush/Cheney regime caused would be all
>> fixed in a year? You act like Obama can't do anything worth a darn
>
> Buerste acts like that??? It's 0bama that acts like that, and he's
> the one that counts.
>
>> but
>> you're all upset that he hasn't got the country to where it's going
>> great again. If you actually know how bad a mess that Bush got the
>> country in how can you expect anyone to have it back where it should be
>> in only 12 months? I guess you must have a lot more belief in Obama than
>> I do. He will get things fixed eventually unless the republicans stop
>> everything. In that case nothing will ever get better. Vote for them if
>> you like things just like they are now, no worse.
>>
>> Hawke
>
> Things will right themselves eventually. Sooner if 0bama stays out of
> the way.


I suppose things would have fixed themselves when the financial industry
was collapsing too. If we would have just let the banks fail and the
auto industry too everything would have worked out in the end anyway,
right? Where do you get such goofy ideas? The only reason things are
starting to turn around is because of what Obama has done. If he hadn't
acted like he did we would be so much worse off than we are now. But
you're the type that would say a drunk getting in his car would be okay
too. Things would work out in the end. Yeah, sure they would. You sound
like you were born yesterday.

Hawke

Buerste

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Feb 12, 2010, 5:39:06 AM2/12/10
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"Hawke" <davesm...@digitalpath.net> wrote in message
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And how is Obama going to cause creation of more wealth than is distributed?
So far, he's a distributor. And while you're at it, tell us how wealth is
created.

Doug Miller

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Feb 12, 2010, 8:17:26 AM2/12/10
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In article <JZ-dnbxQOv7RIOnW...@posted.cpinternet>, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPe...@HotMail.com> wrote:

>Another Kennedy ?
> LOL
>Kennedy was the start of the Vietname war and the "Great Society" increase
>in organized welfare.
>

Wrong on both counts.

The Vietnam war started while Eisenhower was President. The first American
military advisers in South Vietnam were sent by Eisenhower, not Kennedy. The
first American casualties in the war occurred in 1959. The first American
combat troops in South Vietnam were sent in March 1965 by Lyndon Johnson.

And the "Great Society" was Johnson's idea, not Kennedy's.

Hawke

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Feb 12, 2010, 2:38:25 PM2/12/10
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>>
>> Not the republicans, that's for sure. But how come you guys all keep
>> thinking that the disaster the Bush/Cheney regime caused would be all
>> fixed in a year? You act like Obama can't do anything worth a darn but
>> you're all upset that he hasn't got the country to where it's going
>> great again. If you actually know how bad a mess that Bush got the
>> country in how can you expect anyone to have it back where it should
>> be in only 12 months? I guess you must have a lot more belief in Obama
>> than I do. He will get things fixed eventually unless the republicans
>> stop everything. In that case nothing will ever get better. Vote for
>> them if you like things just like they are now, no worse.
>>
> Hawke

> >Buerste wrote:

> And how is Obama going to cause creation of more wealth than is
> distributed? So far, he's a distributor. And while you're at it, tell
> us how wealth is created.

Obama is going to create more wealth by using the power of the federal
government to aid the business community in its efforts to increase the
amount of business it does. As for wealth creation, that is produced by
the combined efforts of the government and the private sector. The two
work together to create an environment where private businesses can grow
and make profits. Any fool knows that wealth is produced by businesses
and individuals working for their own interests. But without the help
and input from government the private sector can be very unproductive
or even pretty worthless. Government sets the conditions for wealth
creation and it works alongside the business community to aid and
facilitate it in reaching its goals of growth and profitability.

Hawke

John R. Carroll

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Feb 12, 2010, 2:50:40 PM2/12/10
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>> And how is Obama going to cause creation of more wealth than is
>> distributed? So far, he's a distributor. And while you're at it,
>> tell us how wealth is created.
>
> Obama is going to create more wealth by using the power of the federal
> government to aid the business community in its efforts to increase
> the amount of business it does.

Hey Hawke, I see you are taking Sarah Palin lessons.
LOL
You wouldn't be trying to take Tina Fey's slot are you?

--
John R. Carroll


Monika Eggers

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Feb 12, 2010, 4:05:51 PM2/12/10
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Cliff schrieb:

> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20100209/ts_ynews/ynews_ts1122
> "Mystery swirls around George W. Bush 'Miss me yet?' billboard"

http://www.politblogger.eu/eigentlich-nicht-2/

Monika.

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@arcor.de instead.

Hawke

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Feb 12, 2010, 5:25:17 PM2/12/10
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All I can say is from your lips to God's ear. A job on SNL? Pleeese! Not
a chance but I can dream at least. I hear the pay is good.

I don't know about Palin giving me any lessons. I didn't think she
thought the government had any role in anything except killing folks we
don't like. I could have missed one of her off the cuff speeches though.
But since they're all written for her I doubt it.

Hawke

David R.Birch

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Feb 12, 2010, 5:37:15 PM2/12/10
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Kennedy was said to have been thinking of pulling out of VN, hence
11/22/63. The Great Society was an LBJ thing.

David

Doug Miller

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Feb 12, 2010, 7:01:55 PM2/12/10
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In article <hl4l6...@news7.newsguy.com>, "David R.Birch" <dbi...@wi.rr.com> wrote:

>
>Kennedy was said to have been thinking of pulling out of VN,

Woulda been the only thing he ever did pull out of...

>hence 11/22/63.

Ummm.... wow. Time to change the tin foil lining in your hat.

William Wixon

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Feb 12, 2010, 8:43:55 PM2/12/10
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"Monika Eggers" <monik...@expires-2009-12-31.arcornews.de> wrote in
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LOL LOL LOL!

there was stuff at one of the "miss me yet" websites i looked at where
people are volunteering to donate money to keep that sign up. *i'd* donate
money to see those "not really" signs plastered all across the u.s..

lol.

b.w.


Wes

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Feb 12, 2010, 8:00:35 PM2/12/10
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Hawke <davesm...@digitalpath.net> wrote:

>I could have missed one of her off the cuff speeches though.
> But since they're all written for her I doubt it.

Damn, you are blind as hell. Where do you think those speaches come from displayed on
President Obama's dual teleprompters? I bet you think he writes all that stuff. Hell, he
needs those things to talk to kids. Pathetic.

Ever notice he won't look us in the eye, always the looking up, left, right head swivel.
GWB looked like a deer in the headlights when he talked to us but at least he looked at
us.

About the only time Obama looked like he could handle a bit of heat was when he showed up
for that Republican event recently. I was actually impressed by that. Not convinced but
It looked like he could actually work w/o the crutch.

Reagan used index cards, iirc. Maybe you can tell the Prez since you likely are not on
his agitators list that looking at us, using some cliff notes and trying to speak to us vs
having a speach at us, might gain him a bit of ground.

Wes

Wes

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Feb 12, 2010, 8:06:54 PM2/12/10
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"David R.Birch" <dbi...@wi.rr.com> wrote:

>> Another Kennedy ?
>> LOL
>> Kennedy was the start of the Vietname war and the "Great Society"
>> increase in organized welfare.
>
>Kennedy was said to have been thinking of pulling out of VN, hence
>11/22/63. The Great Society was an LBJ thing.
>
>David

There are two Presidents that were cut short that I'd really like to have seen go full
term just to see how well they would have done. Lincoln and Kennedy.

Wes

David R.Birch

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Feb 12, 2010, 11:03:03 PM2/12/10
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I don't wear hats and Oswald just wasn't a good enough shot to have
done it.

David

David R.Birch

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Feb 12, 2010, 11:06:04 PM2/12/10
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Lincoln had a full term and was reelected in 1864. I think
Reconstruction would have gone a lot better if he hadn't been shot.

David

Shall not be infringed

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On Feb 12, 12:29 am, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPeI...@HotMail.com> wrote:
> "Humperdink" <hot-ham-and-che...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

John. He is believed to have said, "Ask not what you can do for your
country, but what health care benefits you can steal from your
neighbor." Or something like that.

cavelamb

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Feb 13, 2010, 12:26:05 AM2/13/10
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Hells bells.
NOBODY was.

That's kind of the problem.

--

Richard Lamb
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/

David R.Birch

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Feb 13, 2010, 6:38:41 AM2/13/10
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cavelamb wrote:
> David R.Birch wrote:
>> Doug Miller wrote:
>>> In article <hl4l6...@news7.newsguy.com>, "David R.Birch"
>>> <dbi...@wi.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Kennedy was said to have been thinking of pulling out of VN,
>>>
>>> Woulda been the only thing he ever did pull out of...
>>>
>>>> hence 11/22/63.
>>>
>>> Ummm.... wow. Time to change the tin foil lining in your hat.
>>
>> I don't wear hats and Oswald just wasn't a good enough shot to have
>> done it.
>>
>> David
>
>
> Hells bells.
> NOBODY was.
>
> That's kind of the problem.

That's silly, it wasn't THAT hard to do, just beyond the skill of
Oswald. Easier yet with multiple shooters in the short interval of
shoots. Take a look at a Burt Lancaster flick called "Executive
Action" to see how it could've been done.

Not that we'll ever know what really happened.

David

Cliff

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Feb 13, 2010, 8:43:21 AM2/13/10
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On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 22:05:51 +0100, Monika Eggers
<monik...@expires-2009-12-31.arcornews.de> wrote:

>Cliff schrieb:
>
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20100209/ts_ynews/ynews_ts1122
>> "Mystery swirls around George W. Bush 'Miss me yet?' billboard"
>
>http://www.politblogger.eu/eigentlich-nicht-2/

LOL
--
Cliff

Hawke

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cavelamb wrote:
> David R.Birch wrote:
>> Doug Miller wrote:
>>> In article <hl4l6...@news7.newsguy.com>, "David R.Birch"
>>> <dbi...@wi.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Kennedy was said to have been thinking of pulling out of VN,
>>>
>>> Woulda been the only thing he ever did pull out of...
>>>
>>>> hence 11/22/63.
>>>
>>> Ummm.... wow. Time to change the tin foil lining in your hat.
>>
>> I don't wear hats and Oswald just wasn't a good enough shot to have
>> done it.
>>
>> David
>
>
> Hells bells.
> NOBODY was.
>
> That's kind of the problem.
>


Sorry guys but I have seen the shots taken at Kennedy recreated exactly.
They set things up just like the shots Oswald took at the book
depository and had a guy take the same shots. He was able to do it
without any trouble. It wasn't that hard of a shot, really. I think this
was a show on the discovery channel where they proved the shots were
easy enough for someone to make and the difficulty level was able to be
reproduced by any fairly decent shooter. Actually, when they recreated
the scenario I was surprised at how short the distance actually was.
Oswald was in a perfect spot right above Kennedy's car and he had a
perfect shot at it.

Hawke

Michael A. Terrell

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Feb 26, 2010, 2:34:29 AM2/26/10
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You were a lot funnier on the 'Drew Carey Show'.


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