A man is much more likely to be attacked by his wife than by a mugger

[Too_Many_Tools]

So why then do gun nuts worry about the mugger who is much less a
threat than their wife?

Considering that she is more likely to shoot you than any imaginary
mugger will....and she will shoot you with your own gun.

TMT

[Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E]

Tell me. Do you have locks on your singlewide's doors? Do you have
smoke alarms and fire extiguishers? Do you tie you bicycle to a lamp
post when you go to the post office for your entitlement check? Why?
Don't you have police and firemen in your area? WTF are you skeered of?

[Ken Marino]

Chances are you might be shot by your wife because of the way you treated
her. The criminals don't care about little things like that.

[Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E]

I can promise Too_Many_Stools if he tries to kick my door down and
enter my home my wife will most likely drop him with her .380 before I
can get my sawed off shotgun from under the mattress.

[Phling Pu Yu]

In article <7b4b6064-3d0e-413a-b6ee-
65099d...@em1g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>

Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> So why then do gun nuts worry about the mugger

Why do you worry about "gun nuts?"

Shouldn't you be worrying about the negro on white crime rate in
your state?

Why aren't your local papers reporting the negro on white crimes
that the local police and FBI show in their statistical reports?

Remember, crime reporting and hiding the race was your idea as a
liberal. But, the information is right there.

[Too_Many_Tools]

On May 21, 1:32 pm, "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E"

Your crazy ass conservative bitch of a wife.

Laugh..laugh..laugh..

TMT

[!Jones]

Yes, that's true.

However, when faced with the choice between a known threat and an
unknown one, people will almost always choose the known threat even if
the probability if injury is far greater.

But, then... your spouse is the *second* most likely person to shoot
you. The person *most* likely to shoot you is ... <DRUM ROLL> ...
you!

Jones

[!Jones]

On Mon, 21 May 2012 13:49:12 -0500, in talk.politics.guns Ken Marino
<kph...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>Chances are you might be shot by your wife because of the way you treated
>her. The criminals don't care about little things like that.

Well, he really should have said "spouse" because a spouse has the
second greatest probability of being shot... children come right
behind the spouse, followed by other immediate family. Family pets
are also frequent targets.

Face it, for some people, marriage is a 24/7 cat fight... dunno why
they stay married. Then, one day...

Jones

[Jim Stewart]

Ask the question again after you've had a wife.

[Raitt@bass.gov James Hutchinson]

"!Jones" wrote in message
news:5h7lr7pgu8952v1d1...@4ax.com...

<^^^^
I never had a problem with you faggots wanting to get married.
You deserve to be mingled by law.
But why you retards have "cat fights" 24/7 after words...who cares?
Normal people do NOT have those fights that YOU speak of

[Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E]

He should wait to axk that question after he loses his virginity.
Btw,his getting his puckered bleeding starfish violated by a turgid,14
inch,uncut negro cock every night doesn't count.

[Phling Pu Yu]

In article <213cc55a-ea15-4da7-9fe1-
0106e4...@n33g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>

TMT's desperation meter is peaking. When liberal males sense
danger, they attack women.

It must be a homosexual thing.

[Oglethorpe]

"Ken Marino" <kph...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:9LydnZiSSfW1EyfS...@earthlink.com...

Women are more likely to use poison.

[Ed Huntress]

Ho-ho! There's another one.

Tell us, "Robert," and this is a really curious cultural issue with
which you could help us out: Why is it that you rightards so often
reach for racist, homoerotic slurs when you're piling on?

I could see it if you';re coming out on the short end of an argument;
white trash will reach for anything when they're down and desperate.
But that isn't the case here. You really have no need to throw another
punch.

Is it something in your upbringing? Did yo' momma threaten you with
the boogyman when you were a tyke?

Or what? Help us out here with ah honest answer.

--
Ed Huntress

[Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E]

> Ed Huntress- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Ahhh-hhhaaaahhhh !! The race card !! I Knew you could do it !! Good
boy !!

[Ed Huntress]

Uh, who was it who brought up the "uncut negro cock"? Is there some
reason it's a NEGRO cock?

Or did you forget which card you laid on the table?

--
Ed Huntress

[Too_Many_Tools]

On May 21, 11:49 pm, Deucalion <some...@nowhere.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 21 May 2012 11:56:09 -0700 (PDT), "Robert Westergrom,1900

> Did I just hear an idiot admit to a federal felony?  Sawed off shotgun
> my ass.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Yes you did.

While at the same time Predator logged his IP address and sent an
alert to his local authorities.

And since he admits to having numerous firearms, the SWAT team will be
going in hot when they visit.

And they won't be bringing doughnuts.

TMT

[Alim Nassor]

Skip your meds today?

[Too_Many_Tools]

On May 22, 12:16 am, Deucalion <some...@nowhere.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 21 May 2012 22:09:09 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools

> Damn, no doughnuts?  Boy are they going to be in a foul mood when it
> happens.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

I wonder if any of the African American members of the SWAT team will
take offense concering the ""uncut negro cock" comment.

I guess our resident conservative racist bigot will find out.

TMT

[Alim Nassor]

Are you sure the situation has deteriorated to the point where SWAT
teams are dispatched because of Usenet arguments? Wow, the Obama
administration is worse than I thought.

[Gunner Asch]

Perhaps he simply took too many..of the wrong kind?

Its sad watching TMT self destruct in such a fashion. Shrug

Maybe he wont even understand whats happening when he is executed by his
neighbors later this year. And that would be a huge pity.

He deserves many hours of torture and agony before they kill him.

Gunner

--
"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry
capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency.
It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an
Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense
and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have
such a man for their? president.. Blaming the prince of the
fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of
fools that made him their prince".

[David R. Birch]

On 5/21/2012 11:49 PM, Deucalion wrote:

>> I can promise Too_Many_Stools if he tries to kick my door down and
>> enter my home my wife will most likely drop him with her .380 before I
>> can get my sawed off shotgun from under the mattress.
>

> Did I just hear an idiot admit to a federal felony? Sawed off shotgun
> my ass.

No, you didn't, as long as the barrel is more than 18" long and the
shotgun is more than 26" long.

David

[David R. Birch]

On 5/22/2012 12:09 AM, Too_Much_A_Fool wrote:
> On May 21, 11:49 pm, Deucalion<some...@nowhere.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 May 2012 11:56:09 -0700 (PDT), "Robert Westergrom,1900
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E"<burtonu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On May 21, 1:49 pm, Ken Marino<kpha...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 21 May 2012 11:06:50 -0700, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
>>>>> So why then do gun nuts worry about the mugger who is much less a threat
>>>>> than their wife?
>>
>>>>> Considering that she is more likely to shoot you than any imaginary
>>>>> mugger will....and she will shoot you with your own gun.
>>
>>>>> TMT
>>
>>>> Chances are you might be shot by your wife because of the way you treated
>>>> her. The criminals don't care about little things like that.
>>
>>> I can promise Too_Many_Stools if he tries to kick my door down and
>>> enter my home my wife will most likely drop him with her .380 before I
>>> can get my sawed off shotgun from under the mattress.
>>
>> Did I just hear an idiot admit to a federal felony? Sawed off shotgun
>> my ass.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Yes you did.

No, he didn't, as long as the barrel is more than 18" long and the

shotgun is more than 26" long.

> While at the same time Predator logged his IP address and sent an
> alert to his local authorities.
>
> And since he admits to having numerous firearms, the SWAT team will be
> going in hot when they visit.
>
> And they won't be bringing doughnuts.
>
> TMT

They won't be bringing anything, they aren't as ignorant as you are.

David

[Too_Many_Tools]

> administration is worse than I thought.- Hide quoted text -

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What do you think the Patriot Act was for?

And it was created and implemented under BUSH.

The Feds regularly scan Usenet for possible threats and leads to
terrorists, both foreign and domestic.

Leads are forwarded to local authorities for watch and wait or
immediate action.

TMT

[Too_Many_Tools]

> fools that made him their prince".- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Mark Wieber aka Gummer...another thinly veiled death threat?

Another conservative who brags about having numerous firearms and
regularly expresses a insane hatred of law enforcement and Government.

www.fbi.gov

TMT

[Too_Many_Tools]

Yes he did.

And why don't we let the SWAT team decide how long it is.

Hopefully they will bring a tape measure with them when they visit.

TMT

[Scout]

"Deucalion" <som...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:hl6mr7lnfq2c8aq52...@4ax.com...

> On Mon, 21 May 2012 11:56:09 -0700 (PDT), "Robert Westergrom,1900

> Did I just hear an idiot admit to a federal felony? Sawed off shotgun
> my ass.

Excuse me? Please cite the law were it is an automatic federal felony to
have a sawed off shotgun.

While you thinking about it, you might want to view some of these links.

http://www.proguns.com/class3-shotguns.asp
http://www.impactguns.com/short-barrel-shotgun.aspx

http://www.tunasfirearmsales.com/short-barreled-shotgun-conversions.html

Now that you've have a chance to think it over, would you like to try again?

[Scout]

"Gunner Asch" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eulmr7tdo96kh4v8o...@4ax.com...

Sad? I'm wondering how we can get his doctor to up the dosage.

[Alim Nassor]

I'm sure you can document some instances where a SWAT team raided a
house because of a Usenet argument.

[Alim Nassor]

On May 22, 4:23 pm, "Scout"
<me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
> "Deucalion" <some...@nowhere.net> wrote in message

>
> news:hl6mr7lnfq2c8aq52...@4ax.com...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mon, 21 May 2012 11:56:09 -0700 (PDT), "Robert Westergrom,1900
> > Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E" <burtonu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>On May 21, 1:49 pm, Ken Marino <kpha...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 21 May 2012 11:06:50 -0700, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
> >>> > So why then do gun nuts worry about the mugger who is much less a
> >>> > threat
> >>> > than their wife?
>
> >>> > Considering that she is more likely to shoot you than any imaginary
> >>> > mugger will....and she will shoot you with your own gun.
>
> >>> > TMT
>
> >>> Chances are you might be shot by your wife because of the way you
> >>> treated
> >>> her. The criminals don't care about little things like that.
>
> >>I can promise Too_Many_Stools if he tries to kick my door down and
> >>enter my home my wife will most likely drop him with her .380 before I
> >>can get my sawed off shotgun from under the mattress.
>
> > Did I just hear an idiot admit to a federal felony?  Sawed off shotgun
> > my ass.
>
> Excuse me? Please cite the law were it is an automatic federal felony to
> have a sawed off shotgun.
>
> While you thinking about it, you might want to view some of these links.
>

> http://www.proguns.com/class3-shotguns.asphttp://www.impactguns.com/short-barrel-shotgun.aspx

>
> http://www.tunasfirearmsales.com/short-barreled-shotgun-conversions.html
>
> Now that you've have a chance to think it over, would you like to try again?

The laws regarding sawed off shotguns and silencers are some of the
most egregious violations of common sense I can think of. First off,
a $200 tax on a 5 buck silencer is punitive, and second, the idea that
it is felony to fail to pay a $200 tax is ridiculous. How many of us
in this group have owed a $200 tax bill before? This tax was the
justification the Feds used to murder Randy Weavers family, and also
to murder almost a hundred people in Waco.

[Too_Many_Tools]

> David- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Hmm...sounds like we have yet another antigovernment conservative who
has had the need to know how to modify a shotgun.

Why the need...have your arms gotten shorter with your head being up
your butt?

When SWAT visits, be sure you show them all those sawed off shotguns
you love.

TMT

[Scout]

"Deucalion" <som...@nowhere.net> wrote in message

news:ghcor7lgralcbqmvd...@4ax.com...

> Sure...Randy Weaver.

So you think Randy Weaver automatically makes it a federal felony to have a
sawed off shotgun?

Are you really this stupid?

[Gunner Asch]

On Tue, 22 May 2012 17:23:35 -0400, "Scout"
<me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:

>
>

Doucebag once again shit in his hat.

He has a terrible tendency to do that with great regularity

[Alim Nassor]

LOL, what is there to know? It's not rocket science to make sure
the barrel is more than 18inches and the overall length is more than
26.

Be sure and send them to my house too, so they can check my short
barreled shotguns that ARE less than 18 inches and my silencers.

[Alim Nassor]

On May 22, 9:20 pm, "Scout"
<me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
> "Deucalion" <some...@nowhere.net> wrote in message

>
> news:ghcor7lgralcbqmvd...@4ax.com...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Tue, 22 May 2012 17:23:35 -0400, "Scout"

> > <me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
> >>"Deucalion" <some...@nowhere.net> wrote in message

And Randy's wife deserved to die because a 200 dollar tax had not been
paid. And according to Weaver, and I believe his story, the shotgun
had been the correct length when it had been sold. BATF cutting
another 1/4 inch off the stock or barrel is totally within the realm
of what those bastards would do to in order to flex their muscle.

[Too_Many_Tools]

On May 22, 4:23 pm, "Scout"
<me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
> "Deucalion" <some...@nowhere.net> wrote in message

>
> news:hl6mr7lnfq2c8aq52...@4ax.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mon, 21 May 2012 11:56:09 -0700 (PDT), "Robert Westergrom,1900
> > Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E" <burtonu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>On May 21, 1:49 pm, Ken Marino <kpha...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 21 May 2012 11:06:50 -0700, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
> >>> > So why then do gun nuts worry about the mugger who is much less a
> >>> > threat
> >>> > than their wife?
>
> >>> > Considering that she is more likely to shoot you than any imaginary
> >>> > mugger will....and she will shoot you with your own gun.
>
> >>> > TMT
>
> >>> Chances are you might be shot by your wife because of the way you
> >>> treated
> >>> her. The criminals don't care about little things like that.
>
> >>I can promise Too_Many_Stools if he tries to kick my door down and
> >>enter my home my wife will most likely drop him with her .380 before I
> >>can get my sawed off shotgun from under the mattress.
>
> > Did I just hear an idiot admit to a federal felony?  Sawed off shotgun
> > my ass.
>
> Excuse me? Please cite the law were it is an automatic federal felony to
> have a sawed off shotgun.
>
> While you thinking about it, you might want to view some of these links.
>

> http://www.proguns.com/class3-shotguns.asphttp://www.impactguns.com/short-barrel-shotgun.aspx
>
> http://www.tunasfirearmsales.com/short-barreled-shotgun-conversions.html
>
> Now that you've have a chance to think it over, would you like to try again?- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Why do you prefer State jail time over Federal time?

TMT

[David R. Birch]

On 5/22/2012 1:35 PM, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
> On May 22, 5:58 am, "David R. Birch"<dbi...@wi.rr.com> wrote:
>> On 5/21/2012 11:49 PM, Deucalion wrote:
>>
>>>> I can promise Too_Many_Stools if he tries to kick my door down and
>>>> enter my home my wife will most likely drop him with her .380 before I
>>>> can get my sawed off shotgun from under the mattress.
>>
>>> Did I just hear an idiot admit to a federal felony? Sawed off shotgun
>>> my ass.
>>
>> No, you didn't, as long as the barrel is more than 18" long and the
>> shotgun is more than 26" long.
>>
>> David
>
> Yes he did.

Where? It is not illegal to shorten a shotgun with a saw.

>
> And why don't we let the SWAT team decide how long it is.

Just what we need, another Ruby Ridge. Maybe we can find Lon Horiuchi to
shoot another mother holding a child.

> Hopefully they will bring a tape measure with them when they visit.

That's what I use.

I've done this to several shotgun barrels. Obviously, it won't work
with ribbed barrels. For my Remington 1100, I picked up a cheap used
plain barrel at a gun show. In fact, I recommend you do the same.

1)Measure the length of the barrel with a tape measure down the barrel
against the bolt face to confirm starting length length, 28".

2)If you're taking off 9", measure 9" minus a bit (1/16"?) from the
muzzle.

3)Put a pencil mark there. Check to make sure the length from the
pencil mark to the buttplate is at least 26".

4)Wrap several turns of masking tape around the barrel centered on the
mark.

5)Repeat 1 through 3 and put a new pencil mark on the tape.

6)Repeat 1 and 2. You REALLY DON'T want to cut off shorter than 18"
from the bolt face or overall length of 26". I measure three times.

7)Remove the barrel from the shotgun and secure it in a padded vise.

8)Use a tubing cutter with a sharp roller blade and start with just
enough tension on the blade to cut the tape and scribe a faint line
all around at the pencil mark. Because the barrel is probably slightly
tapered, the cutter will want to move toward the muzzle, so don't try
to cut too deep, just keep it following the line. After a couple of
turns, increase the cutter pressure SLIGHTLY and turn a couple more
times, watching that the cutter blade is still in the line. Keep doing
this, but don't hurry, the only sloppy job I did on one of these was
when I tried to go too fast.

9)Peer down the barrel, you'll see the cutter pushing metal into the
bore long before you cut through.

10)When the cutter has separated the muzzle from the barrel, you'll
have an ugly burr inside the barrel. I use a rotary deburring tool to
take it out and clean up with a file, but you can do it with a round
file if you're careful not to nick the bore.

11)Measure length of barrel and overall length with barrel installed.
OK, so I measure FOUR times. :^)

12)Cold blue the bare metal at the muzzle.

The illegal part is if you go under 18" in the barrel or 26" over all
length, this would violate NFA '34, turn yourself in.

I realize, Too Much A Fool, that this involves metalworking, a subject
that you know nothing about (like most subjects). If you need help, have
a 5th grader read it aloud to you and explain it.

David

[Alim Nassor]

> >http://www.proguns.com/class3-shotguns.asphttp://www.impactguns.com/s...

>
> >http://www.tunasfirearmsales.com/short-barreled-shotgun-conversions.html
>
> > Now that you've have a chance to think it over, would you like to try again?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Why do you prefer State jail time over Federal time?
>
> TMT

Why do you refuse to acknowledge that short barreled shotguns are not
an automatic crime of any kind?

[Too_Many_Tools]

On May 23, 12:10 am, Deucalion <some...@nowhere.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 22 May 2012 22:20:07 -0400, "Scout"
>
>
>
>
>
> <me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
> >"Deucalion" <some...@nowhere.net> wrote in message

> >news:ghcor7lgralcbqmvd...@4ax.com...
> >> On Tue, 22 May 2012 17:23:35 -0400, "Scout"

> >> <me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
> >>>"Deucalion" <some...@nowhere.net> wrote in message

> Have you measured his "sawed off"?   Since short shotguns can be
> easily purchased with sawing them off, what makes you think that his
> is legal?  Have you seen all those posts from him declaring that his
> shotgun is legal?  The only ones I see doing it are the ones who have
> no idea.  I think that a visit from the official shotgun length
> determiner is in order just to be on the safe side.
>
> Don't you or are you really that stupid?- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

He really IS that stupid.

TMT

[Alim Nassor]

Nope, both of you refuse to acknowledge that it is PERFECTLY LEGAL if
the class 3 tax has been paid

[Alim Nassor]

On May 23, 12:10 am, Deucalion <some...@nowhere.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 22 May 2012 22:20:07 -0400, "Scout"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>

> >"Deucalion" <some...@nowhere.net> wrote in message

> >news:ghcor7lgralcbqmvd...@4ax.com...
> >> On Tue, 22 May 2012 17:23:35 -0400, "Scout"

> >> <me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
> >>>"Deucalion" <some...@nowhere.net> wrote in message

> Have you measured his "sawed off"?   Since short shotguns can be
> easily purchased with sawing them off, what makes you think that his
> is legal?  Have you seen all those posts from him declaring that his
> shotgun is legal?  The only ones I see doing it are the ones who have
> no idea.  I think that a visit from the official shotgun length
> determiner is in order just to be on the safe side.
>
> Don't you or are you really that stupid?

It doesn't matter if the barrel is 2 inches long, if the Class 3 tax
has been paid

[Gunner Asch]

On Tue, 22 May 2012 22:20:07 -0400, "Scout"

Yes.,.he really is that stupid.

[Too_Many_Tools]

On May 21, 1:06 pm, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> So why then do gun nuts worry about the mugger who is much less a
> threat than their wife?
>
> Considering that she is more likely to shoot you than any imaginary
> mugger will....and she will shoot you with your own gun.
>
> TMT

LOL...not one conservative has been able to deny that its the
Truth...that their wife is more likely to shoot them than any
imaginary boogyman.

In fact it is suspected that conservatives feel the need for guns
because of the domestic abuse they receive from their wives.

Thinking a gun will prevent your wife from beating you is false
hope....conservative women are known as much for their abusive
behavior as they are for their stupidity...remember they were stupid
enough to marry you.

Laugh..laugh..laugh..

TMT

[Steve B]

>
> > > > >> >> Chances are you might be shot by your wife because of the way
> > > > >> >> you treated
> > > > >> >> her. The criminals don't care about little things like that.

There there's something to be said for the passive agressive wives. The
ones who berate their husbands. Argue like it's a hobby. Piss and moan.
Try to get their husbands to slap the shit out of then when they need it so
they can call the cops and end up with everything. Or drive him to
drinking, cancer, or suicide. Had one that kept me up arguing the night I
got home from spending five days in the hospital having a heart stent put
in, so about two in the morning, I went and slept in my car at a truck stop
in freezing weather.

There are some women like that. I was married to one. And just before I
was going to kill her, I left her.

There are abusive women in the world, and they don't lay a finger on their
spouses. And they know exactly what they're doing

Steve BTDT

[Steve B]

>>> No, you didn't, as long as the barrel is more than 18" long and the
>>> shotgun is more than 26" long.
>>>
>>> David

TY. I know my Ithaca is 18.5 barrel, and now will check the overall. If
the sawee did it to 18.5 the 26 is PROBABLY right.

Steve

[Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E]

On May 22, 8:18 pm, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> TMT- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

You obviously have never held a shotgun,much less a "sawed off"
shotgun.

[Ignoramus6562]

On 2012-05-23, Steve B <ste...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> > > > >> >> Chances are you might be shot by your wife because of the way
>> > > > >> >> you treated
>> > > > >> >> her. The criminals don't care about little things like that.
>
> There there's something to be said for the passive agressive wives. The
> ones who berate their husbands. Argue like it's a hobby. Piss and moan.

That is not passive aggressive.

[Too_Many_Tools]

On May 23, 2:50 pm, Ignoramus6562 <ignoramus6...@NOSPAM.6562.invalid>
wrote:

> > Steve BTDT- Hide quoted text -

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Correct.

A sharp tongue is as deadly as a loaded gun.

TMT

[Alim Nassor]

The depth of your stupidity is astounding.

[Scout]

"Deucalion" <som...@nowhere.net> wrote in message

news:c4sor7hf0608rdubv...@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 22 May 2012 22:20:07 -0400, "Scout"

> Have you measured his "sawed off"?

Don't need to.

> Since short shotguns can be
> easily purchased with sawing them off, what makes you think that his
> is legal?

What makes you think his is illegal?

> Have you seen all those posts from him declaring that his
> shotgun is legal?

Don't have to in order to realize your claim that his must automatically be
illegal to be false.

> The only ones I see doing it are the ones who have
> no idea.

Like yourself?

> I think that a visit from the official shotgun length
> determiner is in order just to be on the safe side.

Why?

> Don't you or are you really that stupid?

Nope, unless you can show that he owns it illegally then you don't have a
case, because under federal law one can legally own a sawed off shotgun as
long as certain conditions are met.

I even posted links to show you the legal nature they can have, but
apparently facts and knowledge are something you don't bother with.

[de...@dudu.org]

On Wed, 23 May 2012 19:00:32 -0400, "Scout"

Simple. Only one condition. It can't be less than 18 inches. 1968
gun control act set the minimum legal length to be 18 inches.

[Scout]

<de...@dudu.org> wrote in message
news:9orqr714ba2380132...@4ax.com...

Wrong again, but you seem to be consistent in your ignorance.

No, if the barrel is less than 18" then one has to pay a $200 tax, register
it with the ATF, and comply with the other possession requirements for
having a Class II weapon.

>>I even posted links to show you the legal nature they can have, but
>>apparently facts and knowledge are something you don't bother with.
>>

And Dudu also apparently missed this rather clear hint they can be perfectly
legal to own.

[de...@dudu.org]

<sigh> whatever. So they can't be less than 18" without being
licensed with the ATF. Feel better asshole? Then you have to explain
what you need a <18" barrel on your shotgun for and no doubt get on a
domestic terrorist watch list.

>
>>>I even posted links to show you the legal nature they can have, but
>>>apparently facts and knowledge are something you don't bother with.
>>>
>
>And Dudu also apparently missed this rather clear hint they can be perfectly
>legal to own.
>

How many people do you think saw off their shotgun then go register it
with the BATF?

[Too_Many_Tools]

Men and women both equally behave in this dysfunctonal manner...and
conservatives with their limited acceptance of new ideas behave more
in this manner.

We see it here on Usenet...the bitching, the whining, the name
calling...just extention of their home life.

And I have seen many, many conservative families where the husband and
wife behave this way.

Pity the children and pets...it is a very high stress environment.

The sad thing is that children learn how to treat others by witnessing
their parent's relationships....so many times the pattern of verbal
abuse continues into the next generation with their marriages...where
their children then learn the pattern of verbal abuse.

And in a conservative family where the mask of "family values" and
"religious values" is used as a smoke screen, tensions run high to the
point where physical violence occurs....with guns readily available.

So it is very likely one's conservative wife will shoot her husband
before that make believe mugger ever does.

TMT

[Alim Nassor]

On May 23, 6:13 pm, d...@dudu.org wrote:
> On Wed, 23 May 2012 19:00:32 -0400, "Scout"
>
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>
>
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>

> <me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
> >"Deucalion" <some...@nowhere.net> wrote in message

> >news:c4sor7hf0608rdubv...@4ax.com...
> >> On Tue, 22 May 2012 22:20:07 -0400, "Scout"

> >> <me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
> >>>"Deucalion" <some...@nowhere.net> wrote in message

> >>>news:ghcor7lgralcbqmvd...@4ax.com...
> >>>> On Tue, 22 May 2012 17:23:35 -0400, "Scout"

> >>>> <me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
> >>>>>"Deucalion" <some...@nowhere.net> wrote in message

Ever hear of a Class 3 weapon? I own several.

[Too_Many_Tools]

> Ever hear of a Class 3 weapon?   I own several.- Hide quoted text -

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So which one does your wife favor when she is pissed at you?

TMT

[Alim Nassor]

In your make believe world, I am sure that is true.

[Alim Nassor]

Unlike the way you see the world, We behave like rational adults.

[Alim Nassor]

On May 23, 6:40 pm, d...@dudu.org wrote:
> On Wed, 23 May 2012 19:23:06 -0400, "Scout"
>
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> <me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
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> ><d...@dudu.org> wrote in message

> >news:9orqr714ba2380132...@4ax.com...
> >> On Wed, 23 May 2012 19:00:32 -0400, "Scout"

> >> <me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
> >>>"Deucalion" <some...@nowhere.net> wrote in message

> >>>news:c4sor7hf0608rdubv...@4ax.com...
> >>>> On Tue, 22 May 2012 22:20:07 -0400, "Scout"

> >>>> <me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
> >>>>>"Deucalion" <some...@nowhere.net> wrote in message

> >>>>>news:ghcor7lgralcbqmvd...@4ax.com...
> >>>>>> On Tue, 22 May 2012 17:23:35 -0400, "Scout"

> >>>>>> <me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>"Deucalion" <some...@nowhere.net> wrote in message

You make it seem hard. Both my son and I own multiple Class 3 weapons
and silencers. Simple paperwork, the only reason I gave was
"Hobby". I seriously doubt I'm on any watch list as I travel
frequently out of the country for extended periods of time to Muslim
countries. Matter of fact at the moment I am living in a Muslim
country and I just returned from a vacation in Texas.

[David R. Birch]

On 5/23/2012 6:40 PM, de...@dudu.org wrote:
>
> <sigh> whatever. So they can't be less than 18" without being
> licensed with the ATF. Feel better asshole?

The asshole is the one here finds it hard to admit he's wrong.

>Then you have to explain what you need a<18" barrel on your
> shotgun for and no doubt get on a domestic terrorist watch list.

Possibly, but since there is no evidence that anyone cut a shotgun so
that it would require a tax stamp, it's a moot point.

>
>>
>>>> I even posted links to show you the legal nature they can have, but
>>>> apparently facts and knowledge are something you don't bother with.
>>>>
>>
>> And Dudu also apparently missed this rather clear hint they can be perfectly
>> legal to own.
>>
> How many people do you think saw off their shotgun then go register it
> with the BATF?

Only the ones who want to visit Club Fed, since you get the tax stamp
FIRST. Are you competing with Hawwk-ptooey in some kind of general
ignorance contest?

You both win.

David

[Scout]

<de...@dudu.org> wrote in message
news:f7tqr7pvo4pj7v9d2...@4ax.com...

<sigh> You're wrong again.

> So they can't be less than 18" without being
> licensed with the ATF. Feel better asshole?

Yep, you were both wrong and once again I was right.

> Then you have to explain
> what you need a <18" barrel on your shotgun for and no doubt get on a
> domestic terrorist watch list.

No, you don't have to explain anything and I fail to see why you think
someone should or would be put on the list just for owning a legal gun.

>>>>I even posted links to show you the legal nature they can have, but
>>>>apparently facts and knowledge are something you don't bother with.
>>>>
>>
>>And Dudu also apparently missed this rather clear hint they can be
>>perfectly
>>legal to own.
>>
> How many people do you think saw off their shotgun then go register it
> with the BATF?

All the non-criminals, which as a guess a couple of hundred a year, but the
ATF could certainly answer that question for you.

[Scout]

"Alim Nassor" <alimn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:a0f6806c-e6b5-4704...@nl1g2000pbc.googlegroups.com...
> On May 22, 9:20 pm, "Scout"
> <me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>> "Deucalion" <some...@nowhere.net> wrote in message

>>
>> news:ghcor7lgralcbqmvd...@4ax.com...
>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Tue, 22 May 2012 17:23:35 -0400, "Scout"

>> > <me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>
>> >>"Deucalion" <some...@nowhere.net> wrote in message

> And Randy's wife deserved to die because a 200 dollar tax had not been
> paid. And according to Weaver, and I believe his story, the shotgun
> had been the correct length when it had been sold. BATF cutting
> another 1/4 inch off the stock or barrel is totally within the realm
> of what those bastards would do to in order to flex their muscle.

I agree.

[David R. Birch]

On 5/22/2012 8:18 PM, Too_Much_A_Fool wrote:
> On May 22, 6:01 am, "David R. Birch"<dbi...@wi.rr.com> wrote:

>> They won't be bringing anything, they aren't as ignorant as you are.
>>

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>

> Hmm...sounds like we have yet another antigovernment conservative who
> has had the need to know how to modify a shotgun.

Nope, libertarian left, something not understood in this NG. I'm anti
EXCESSIVE government.

I know how modify a shotgun so it is more useful for home defense, but
doesn't need a tax stamp to own.

Gratuitous insult snipped.

>
> When SWAT visits, be sure you show them all those sawed off shotguns
> you love.

Sure, I'll show them all my legally shortened shotguns, none shorter
than 26" and all barrels over 18". I don't love them, they're tools.

Although I'm rather fond of my Atlas 12x36 QC lathe...

David

[David R. Birch]

On 5/24/2012 3:12 AM, Deucalion wrote:

> I've seen quite a few sawed off shotguns, but I have never seen a
> legal one.

I've never seen an illegal one other than on the news.

David

[Alim Nassor]

On May 24, 3:12 am, Deucalion <some...@nowhere.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 23 May 2012 00:06:08 -0700 (PDT), Alim Nassor
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <alimnas...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> >On May 23, 1:56 am, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On May 23, 12:10 am, Deucalion <some...@nowhere.net> wrote:
>

> >> > On Tue, 22 May 2012 22:20:07 -0400, "Scout"

> >> > Have you measured his "sawed off"?   Since short shotguns can be

> >> > easily purchased with sawing them off, what makes you think that his

> >> > is legal?  Have you seen all those posts from him declaring that his
> >> > shotgun is legal?  The only ones I see doing it are the ones who have
> >> > no idea.  I think that a visit from the official shotgun length

> >> > determiner is in order just to be on the safe side.
>

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>

> >> He really IS that stupid.
>
> >> TMT
>
> >Nope, both of you refuse to acknowledge that it is PERFECTLY LEGAL if
> >the class 3 tax has been paid

>
> I've seen quite a few sawed off shotguns, but I have never seen a
> legal one.

Plenty of them for sale every day.

12" Remington for sale
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=287574777

Benelli 14" for sale
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=287092877

About 2 dozen more for sale at the same site.

Want something different? How about a Russian mortar. Totally live.
Ammo for sale too.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=287637683

[Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E]

> legal one.- Hide quoted text -

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Why? Can't you read a tape measure?? WTF makes a sawed off shotgun
"illegal" if it's the legal length??

[Too_Many_Tools]

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LOL...I was thinking the same about you...but as a liberal I was too
polite to say it.

As a conservative, I understand that manners were not taught in your
home.

Did your daddy live in fear of your mother too?

TMT

[Robert G. Crenshaw]

In article <eb200f42-64af-4403-a92b-
0f27cb...@m10g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>

As a liberal, you were too dumb to do anything but run your
mouth at full speed to obscure your ignorance.

Quantity is no substitute for quality.

[RD Sandman]

de...@dudu.org wrote in news:9orqr714ba2380132...@4ax.com:

Unless you have had the Class III background check, paid the tax stamp
and ATF is aware of the gun by serial number. What you don't have the
right to do is to manufacture one.

Additionally, several guns that would normally be considered to be rifles
with less than 18 inch barrels get around that by being manufactured as
handguns in the first place. Examples would be several that imitate the
sawed off lever action used by Josh Randall (Steve McQueen) in Wanted,
Dead or Alive. An example would be the Mare's Laig in .357Magnum, .44-40
or .45 Colt. Copies of that gun are manufactured by LSI Puma, JB Custom
and Rossi that I am aware of.


--

Road Kill!! It's what's for dinner.......


Sleep well, tonight.....

RD (The Sandman)

[RD Sandman]

de...@dudu.org wrote in news:f7tqr7pvo4pj7v9d2...@4ax.com:

Or simply purchase a Mare's Laig from in a caliber like .357Mag, .44-40
or .45 Colt from a few manufacturers.

[RD Sandman]

Deucalion <som...@nowhere.net> wrote in
news:5uosr75eg2kkgbqrq...@4ax.com:

> <snip attempt to change subject>
>
> <http://www.mlive.com/news/jackson/index.ssf/2012/03/deputies_find_shor
> t-barreled_s.html>
>
> <http://www.troyrecord.com/articles/2012/01/25/news/doc4f1f9f4b70600425
> 520688.txt>
>
> <http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2012/03/sawed-off_shotgun_found
> _during.html>
>
> <http://durantdemocrat.com/view/full_story/3255953/article-Shots-lead-t
> o-seized-sawed-off-shotgun--man-charged-with-burglary-following-investi
> gation>
>
> <http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20120126/LOCAL07/120129576/1002/
> LOCAL>
>
> Need I go on? There are more illegally owned sawed off shotguns than
> legally owned ones.

Which would have absolutely nothing to do with whether or not it is legal
to own one. That is what this part of the thread started over.

[David R. Birch]

What do you base that on, the shortage of news reports about legally
owned, legal length sawed off shotguns that haven't been used in crimes?

You show 5 reports of illegally sawed off shotguns. I own 5 sawed off
shotguns and have shortened 3 others, all over 26" OAL and all with
barrels over 18". No Club Fed for me.

Out of a total of 13, then, 62% are legal and legally owned.

That was easy, maybe you should do your homework so you don't show us
you don't know what you're talking about.

David

[Scout]

"Deucalion" <som...@nowhere.net> wrote in message

news:49rrr79vngisbvien...@4ax.com...

Sounds like a personal problem to me.

[Scout]

"Deucalion" <som...@nowhere.net> wrote in message

news:5uosr75eg2kkgbqrq...@4ax.com...

> <snip attempt to change subject>
>
> <http://www.mlive.com/news/jackson/index.ssf/2012/03/deputies_find_short-barreled_s.html>
>
> <http://www.troyrecord.com/articles/2012/01/25/news/doc4f1f9f4b70600425520688.txt>
>
> <http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2012/03/sawed-off_shotgun_found_during.html>
>
> <http://durantdemocrat.com/view/full_story/3255953/article-Shots-lead-to-seized-sawed-off-shotgun--man-charged-with-burglary-following-investigation>
>
> <http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20120126/LOCAL07/120129576/1002/LOCAL>
>
> Need I go on? There are more illegally owned sawed off shotguns than
> legally owned ones.

So you admit there are legally owned ones....so clearly owning one doesn't
automatically mean one is in violation of federal law.

The whole point of this thread.

[Too_Many_Tools]

On May 24, 5:26 pm, "Scout"

<me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
> "Deucalion" <some...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
>

> > <http://www.mlive.com/news/jackson/index.ssf/2012/03/deputies_find_sho...>
>
> > <http://www.troyrecord.com/articles/2012/01/25/news/doc4f1f9f4b7060042...>
>
> > <http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2012/03/sawed-off_shotgun_foun...>
>
> > <http://durantdemocrat.com/view/full_story/3255953/article-Shots-lead-...>
>
> > <http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20120126/LOCAL07/120129576/1002...>

>
> > Need I go on?  There are more illegally owned sawed off shotguns than
> > legally owned ones.
>
> So you admit there are legally owned ones....so clearly owning one doesn't
> automatically mean one is in violation of federal law.
>

> The whole point of this thread.- Hide quoted text -

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Liar.

As the OP the whole point of this thread was...

"A man is much more likely to be attacked by his wife than by a
mugger".

Which is the Truth.

TMT

[Alim Nassor]

On May 24, 11:43 am, Deucalion <some...@nowhere.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 May 2012 05:26:47 -0700 (PDT), Alim Nassor

> <snip attempt to change subject>
>
> <http://www.mlive.com/news/jackson/index.ssf/2012/03/deputies_find_sho...>
>
> <http://www.troyrecord.com/articles/2012/01/25/news/doc4f1f9f4b7060042...>
>
> <http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2012/03/sawed-off_shotgun_foun...>
>
> <http://durantdemocrat.com/view/full_story/3255953/article-Shots-lead-...>
>
> <http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20120126/LOCAL07/120129576/1002...>
>
> Need I go on?  There are more illegally owned sawed off shotguns than
> legally owned ones.

I'm sorry, I thought you were suggesting that there are no legal short
barreled shotguns. My bad.

[Alim Nassor]

On May 24, 2:20 pm, RD Sandman <rdsandman[spamremove]@comcast.net>
wrote:
> d...@dudu.org wrote innews:9orqr714ba2380132...@4ax.com:

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Wed, 23 May 2012 19:00:32 -0400, "Scout"

> > <me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
> >>"Deucalion" <some...@nowhere.net> wrote in message

> >>news:c4sor7hf0608rdubv...@4ax.com...
> >>> On Tue, 22 May 2012 22:20:07 -0400, "Scout"

> >>> <me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
> >>>>"Deucalion" <some...@nowhere.net> wrote in message

> >>>>news:ghcor7lgralcbqmvd...@4ax.com...
> >>>>> On Tue, 22 May 2012 17:23:35 -0400, "Scout"

> >>>>> <me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>"Deucalion" <some...@nowhere.net> wrote in message

> >>>>>>news:hl6mr7lnfq2c8aq52...@4ax.com...
> >>>>>>> On Mon, 21 May 2012 11:56:09 -0700 (PDT), "Robert
> >>>>>>> Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E"

Yes, you can manufacture, if you have a Class 2 SOT.

[Alim Nassor]

LOL, You pretending to be a well mannered, polite person is pretty
funny.

[Alim Nassor]

For you.

[Too_Many_Tools]

On May 24, 5:26 pm, "Scout"

<me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
> "Deucalion" <some...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
>

> > <http://www.mlive.com/news/jackson/index.ssf/2012/03/deputies_find_sho...>
>
> > <http://www.troyrecord.com/articles/2012/01/25/news/doc4f1f9f4b7060042...>
>
> > <http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2012/03/sawed-off_shotgun_foun...>
>
> > <http://durantdemocrat.com/view/full_story/3255953/article-Shots-lead-...>
>
> > <http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20120126/LOCAL07/120129576/1002...>
>

> > Need I go on?  There are more illegally owned sawed off shotguns than
> > legally owned ones.
>
> So you admit there are legally owned ones....so clearly owning one doesn't
> automatically mean one is in violation of federal law.
>

> The whole point of this thread.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Hey Scout...how many illegal weapons do you have?

The Feds would like to know.

TMT

[pyotr filipivich]

Let the Record show that Alim Nassor <alimn...@yahoo.com> on or
about Thu, 24 May 2012 16:31:28 -0700 (PDT) did write, type or
otherwise cause to appear in talk.politics.guns the following:

>
>> As the OP the whole point of this thread was...
>>
>> "A man is much more likely to be attacked by his wife than by a
>> mugger".
>>
>> Which is the Truth.
>>
>> TMT
>
>For you.

And in general.

I mean, aside from TMT, how spends more time around muggers, than
around their wives?

That's like saying "people who own typewriters or books are more
likely to get paper cuts than those who don't."
--
pyotr filipivich
Next Month's Panel: Suicide - getting it right the first time.

[pyotr filipivich]

Let the Record show that Alim Nassor <alimn...@yahoo.com> on or

about Thu, 24 May 2012 16:30:03 -0700 (PDT) did write, type or

otherwise cause to appear in talk.politics.guns the following:
>

>> >>> Don't you or are you really that stupid?
>>
>> >>Nope, unless you can show that he owns it illegally then you don't
>> >>have a case, because under federal law one can legally own a sawed off
>> >>shotgun as long as certain conditions are met.
>>
>> > Simple.  Only one condition.  It can't be less than 18 inches.  1968
>> > gun control act set the minimum legal length to be 18 inches.
>>
>> Unless you have had the Class III background check, paid the tax stamp
>> and ATF is aware of the gun by serial number.  What you don't have the
>> right to do is to manufacture one.
>>
>> Additionally, several guns that would normally be considered to be rifles
>> with less than 18 inch barrels get around that by being manufactured as
>> handguns in the first place.  Examples would be several that imitate the
>> sawed off lever action used by Josh Randall (Steve McQueen) in Wanted,
>> Dead or Alive. An example would be the Mare's Laig in .357Magnum, .44-40
>> or .45 Colt.  Copies of that gun are manufactured by LSI Puma, JB Custom
>> and Rossi that I am aware of.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Road Kill!! It's what's for dinner.......
>>
>> Sleep well, tonight.....
>>
>> RD (The Sandman)
>
>Yes, you can manufacture, if you have a Class 2 SOT.

As my liberal friend once said - What the government don't know,
the government don't know.

[Alim Nassor]

On May 24, 11:39 pm, Deucalion <some...@nowhere.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 May 2012 14:44:59 -0500, RD Sandman

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <rdsandman[spamremove]@comcast.net> wrote:
> >Deucalion <some...@nowhere.net> wrote in

> I said that the sawed off shotgun mentioned by the poster (whom I have
> yet to see clarify the legality of his shotgun) was probably illegal.
> Given the disparity between sawed off shotguns that are owned legally
> and those owned illegally, I think that the odds are in my favor that
> my assumption was right.

I'd like to see where you got your numbers.

[Alim Nassor]

On May 24, 11:46 pm, Deucalion <some...@nowhere.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 May 2012 16:27:13 -0700 (PDT), Alim Nassor

> No problem and thanks.  I have always known that it is possible to own
> them legally.  However, when someone starts spouting off in a
> newsgroup about owning one, I tend to think that the odds are that (in
> that particular case) it is probably not legal for them to have it.
>
> It's unusual for someone in the ng's to admit to a misunderstanding. I
> thought I was the only one left.  I really do appreciate our reaching
> understanding.

I left a different newsgroup because of the inabiltiy of anyone there
to ever admit any type of mistake, or to even be civil. I try civil
first, If all I get in return is asshole, well i can play that too.

Peace.

[Too_Many_Tools]

On May 25, 12:03 am, pyotr filipivich <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Let the Record show that Alim Nassor <alimnas...@yahoo.com> on or

LOL...well Iiberals have been known to spend time with wives of
conservatives...while the husbands are away.

Did you know that 40% of children are not their father's offspring and
the father doesn't know it.

That precentage is likely much higher in conservative families.

Where are the husbands....who knows...running around doped up with
their toy guns and playing Watch Captain like Tiggerman.

TMT

[Too_Many_Tools]

On May 25, 12:03 am, pyotr filipivich <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:

> Let the Record show that Alim Nassor <alimnas...@yahoo.com> on or

> Next Month's Panel: Suicide - getting it right the first time.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

LOL..And as more than one conservative wife has said - What the
husband don't know, the husband don't know.

TMT

[Alim Nassor]

On May 25, 1:41 am, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 25, 12:03 am, pyotr filipivich <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Let the Record show that Alim Nassor <alimnas...@yahoo.com> on or
> > about Thu, 24 May 2012 16:31:28 -0700 (PDT) did write, type or
> > otherwise cause to appear in talk.politics.guns the following:
>
> > >> As the OP the whole point of this thread was...
>
> > >> "A man is much more likely to be attacked by his wife than by a
> > >> mugger".
>
> > >> Which is the Truth.
>
> > >> TMT
>
> > >For you.
>
> >         And in general.
>
> >         I mean, aside from TMT, how spends more time around muggers, than
> > around their wives?
>
> >         That's like saying "people who own typewriters or books are more
> > likely to get paper cuts than those who don't."
> > --
> > pyotr filipivich
> > Next Month's Panel: Suicide - getting it right the first time.
>
> LOL...well Iiberals have been known to spend time with wives of
> conservatives...while the husbands are away.
>
> Did you know that 40% of children are not their father's offspring and
> the father doesn't know it.

No, and you don't know that either, it's just more bullshit pulled out
of your ass.

[David R. Birch]

On 5/24/2012 11:42 PM, Deucalion wrote:
> On Thu, 24 May 2012 18:26:19 -0400, "Scout"

>>> <snip attempt to change subject>
>>>
>>> <http://www.mlive.com/news/jackson/index.ssf/2012/03/deputies_find_short-barreled_s.html>
>>>
>>> <http://www.troyrecord.com/articles/2012/01/25/news/doc4f1f9f4b70600425520688.txt>
>>>
>>> <http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2012/03/sawed-off_shotgun_found_during.html>
>>>
>>> <http://durantdemocrat.com/view/full_story/3255953/article-Shots-lead-to-seized-sawed-off-shotgun--man-charged-with-burglary-following-investigation>
>>>
>>> <http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20120126/LOCAL07/120129576/1002/LOCAL>
>>>
>>> Need I go on? There are more illegally owned sawed off shotguns than
>>> legally owned ones.
>>
>> So you admit there are legally owned ones....so clearly owning one doesn't
>> automatically mean one is in violation of federal law.
>>
>> The whole point of this thread.
>>
>

> Nope. The whole point that I made was that, when someone starts
> spouting off about pulling the sawed off shotgun and killing an
> intruder, the odds are that the gun is illegally owned. People can
> own all sorts of things if they are willing to get the proper
> licenses/permits and pay the taxes.

Show the basis for those odds. In a recent post, I said that adding the
5 illegal shotguns listed above to the 8 legally sawed off shotguns I
know of gives a 62% likelihood in that limited population that the
shotgun is legal.

Give us the basis for your assertion or shut up.

David

[RD Sandman]

Deucalion <som...@nowhere.net> wrote in
news:p83ur7d5im81pmm76...@4ax.com:

> On Thu, 24 May 2012 18:26:19 -0400, "Scout"

>>> <http://www.mlive.com/news/jackson/index.ssf/2012/03/deputies_find_sh
>>> ort-barreled_s.html>
>>>
>>> <http://www.troyrecord.com/articles/2012/01/25/news/doc4f1f9f4b706004

>>> 25520688.txt>
>>>
>>> <http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2012/03/sawed-off_shotgun_fou
>>> nd_during.html>

>>>
>>> <http://durantdemocrat.com/view/full_story/3255953/article-Shots-lead
>>> -to-seized-sawed-off-shotgun--man-charged-with-burglary-following-inv
>>> estigation>
>>>
>>> <http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20120126/LOCAL07/120129576/100
>>> 2/LOCAL>
>>>

>>> Need I go on? There are more illegally owned sawed off shotguns
>>> than legally owned ones.
>>
>>So you admit there are legally owned ones....so clearly owning one
>>doesn't automatically mean one is in violation of federal law.
>>
>>The whole point of this thread.
>>
>

> Nope. The whole point that I made was that, when someone starts
> spouting off about pulling the sawed off shotgun and killing an
> intruder, the odds are that the gun is illegally owned. People can
> own all sorts of things if they are willing to get the proper
> licenses/permits and pay the taxes.
>

And I saw nothing in his comment that indicated any different.