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"Stand Your Ground" can get you killed...so go ahead and point your gun at the wrong guy and die
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Too_Many_Tools
Jul 21, 2012, 7:00:11 PM7/21/12
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Too bad that brains don't come with a gun purchase.
Know your target before you pull that gun you love to hide behind.
If I were on the jury I would rule for the cops...pull a gun on a cop
and suffer the consequences.
TMT
Florida man killed in police mix-up
Reuters -
ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - The death of a man shot inside his home,
by a sheriff's deputy who went to the wrong apartment looking for a
criminal suspect, has sparked protests this week over police
procedures in the central Florida city of Leesburg.
Andrew "Drew" Scott, 26, a pizza delivery driver, was shot dead at
1:30 a.m. on Sunday when deputies knocked on his apartment door
without identifying themselves as law enforcement officers. Scott
opened his door holding a gun, according to Lake County Sheriff
spokesman Lieutenant John Herrell.
The Lake County Sheriff has no policy requiring deputies to announce
themselves, Herrell told Reuters.
Prominent Orlando lawyer Mark Nejame, who has been hired by Scott's
family, told Reuters on Friday that lack of policy puts gun-owning
homeowners like Scott in a life-threatening dilemma.
"If they go to the door and it's a criminal, fine. But if it turns out
in the game of Russian roulette that it's a law enforcement officer,
you're dead," Nejame said.
Nejame said Scott acted reasonably and legally in arming himself while
trying to determine who was banging on his door in the middle of the
night.
Brian Evey, manager of a pizza store where Scott worked in Leesburg,
45 miles northwest of Orlando, scheduled a candlelight vigil for
Saturday night in front of Scott's apartment complex, and marched with
several dozen protesters earlier in the week in front of the sheriff's
office.
"This could happen to anybody. We do not want this to happen again,"
Evey said.
Kyan Ware, a former prosecutor and lawyer for the Florida Civil Rights
Association which is conducting its own investigation, on Friday
called the shooting "a tapestry of ineptitude" in which poorly trained
deputies operating with little information "acted on a hunch that was
wrong, that was miscalculated and ultimately resulted in an innocent
person's death."
At the time of the shooting, several deputies were looking for
Jonathon Brown, 31, who was involved in a beating 37 minutes earlier
in a different neighborhood and fled the scene on a motorcycle,
according to Brown's arrest affidavit. Deputies found Brown's
motorcycle, still hot, parked directly in front of Scott's apartment
although he was later located in an adjacent apartment building,
Herrell said.
"When the person came to the door, the door was flung open and the
occupant in that apartment pointed a gun at the deputy's face ... At
that point, the deputy took the action he took, obviously he was in
fear for his life, and at that point he shot Mr. Scott," Herrell said.
Herrell said he did not know why deputies chose not to identify
themselves as they knocked on Scott's door, but that decision was
within the deputies' discretion.
Ware said the deputy who shot Scott had witnessed two other Lake
County deputies shoot a suspect four days earlier, and should have
been placed on desk duty to recover from the trauma.
Evey said he hopes to get more people involved in further protests
until the sheriff's department makes changes to shore up public
safety.
"This guy lit up every room that he was in. He was amazing. We want
the whole country to know who this guy is," Evey said of Scott.
(Editing by David Adams and Mohammad Zargham)
Know your target before you pull that gun you love to hide behind.
If I were on the jury I would rule for the cops...pull a gun on a cop
and suffer the consequences.
TMT
Florida man killed in police mix-up
Reuters -
ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - The death of a man shot inside his home,
by a sheriff's deputy who went to the wrong apartment looking for a
criminal suspect, has sparked protests this week over police
procedures in the central Florida city of Leesburg.
Andrew "Drew" Scott, 26, a pizza delivery driver, was shot dead at
1:30 a.m. on Sunday when deputies knocked on his apartment door
without identifying themselves as law enforcement officers. Scott
opened his door holding a gun, according to Lake County Sheriff
spokesman Lieutenant John Herrell.
The Lake County Sheriff has no policy requiring deputies to announce
themselves, Herrell told Reuters.
Prominent Orlando lawyer Mark Nejame, who has been hired by Scott's
family, told Reuters on Friday that lack of policy puts gun-owning
homeowners like Scott in a life-threatening dilemma.
"If they go to the door and it's a criminal, fine. But if it turns out
in the game of Russian roulette that it's a law enforcement officer,
you're dead," Nejame said.
Nejame said Scott acted reasonably and legally in arming himself while
trying to determine who was banging on his door in the middle of the
night.
Brian Evey, manager of a pizza store where Scott worked in Leesburg,
45 miles northwest of Orlando, scheduled a candlelight vigil for
Saturday night in front of Scott's apartment complex, and marched with
several dozen protesters earlier in the week in front of the sheriff's
office.
"This could happen to anybody. We do not want this to happen again,"
Evey said.
Kyan Ware, a former prosecutor and lawyer for the Florida Civil Rights
Association which is conducting its own investigation, on Friday
called the shooting "a tapestry of ineptitude" in which poorly trained
deputies operating with little information "acted on a hunch that was
wrong, that was miscalculated and ultimately resulted in an innocent
person's death."
At the time of the shooting, several deputies were looking for
Jonathon Brown, 31, who was involved in a beating 37 minutes earlier
in a different neighborhood and fled the scene on a motorcycle,
according to Brown's arrest affidavit. Deputies found Brown's
motorcycle, still hot, parked directly in front of Scott's apartment
although he was later located in an adjacent apartment building,
Herrell said.
"When the person came to the door, the door was flung open and the
occupant in that apartment pointed a gun at the deputy's face ... At
that point, the deputy took the action he took, obviously he was in
fear for his life, and at that point he shot Mr. Scott," Herrell said.
Herrell said he did not know why deputies chose not to identify
themselves as they knocked on Scott's door, but that decision was
within the deputies' discretion.
Ware said the deputy who shot Scott had witnessed two other Lake
County deputies shoot a suspect four days earlier, and should have
been placed on desk duty to recover from the trauma.
Evey said he hopes to get more people involved in further protests
until the sheriff's department makes changes to shore up public
safety.
"This guy lit up every room that he was in. He was amazing. We want
the whole country to know who this guy is," Evey said of Scott.
(Editing by David Adams and Mohammad Zargham)
Alim Nassor
Jul 21, 2012, 7:46:10 PM7/21/12
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incredibly stupid policy of the Sheriffs Department.
azjohn
Jul 21, 2012, 9:04:52 PM7/21/12
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On 7/21/2012 4:00 PM, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
> Too bad that brains don't come with a gun purchase.
>
> Know your target before you pull that gun you love to hide behind.
>
It sure worked on that porch monkey Trayvon Martin. Bang Bang.
> Too bad that brains don't come with a gun purchase.
>
> Know your target before you pull that gun you love to hide behind.
>
No more Skittles, iced tea, or drug sales.
Gray Guest
Jul 21, 2012, 9:38:04 PM7/21/12
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Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:d6987ff6-0a88-4bc6-
b9b7-f4f...@u2g2000yqj.googlegroups.com:
> Too bad that brains don't come with a gun purchase.
>
> Know your target before you pull that gun you love to hide behind.
>
> If I were on the jury I would rule for the cops...pull a gun on a cop
> and suffer the consequences.
Felons don't do jury duty.
Tye cops were wrong. I predict the county will settle rahter than go to
court.
--
Refusenik #1
b9b7-f4f...@u2g2000yqj.googlegroups.com:
> Too bad that brains don't come with a gun purchase.
>
> Know your target before you pull that gun you love to hide behind.
>
> If I were on the jury I would rule for the cops...pull a gun on a cop
> and suffer the consequences.
Tye cops were wrong. I predict the county will settle rahter than go to
court.
Refusenik #1
Michael A. Terrell
Jul 21, 2012, 11:25:34 PM7/21/12
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Alim Nassor wrote:
>
> On Jul 21, 6:00 pm, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Too bad that brains don't come with a gun purchase.
> >
> > Know your target before you pull that gun you love to hide behind.
> >
> > If I were on the jury I would rule for the cops...pull a gun on a cop
> > and suffer the consequences.
> >
> > TMT
> >
> > Florida man killed in police mix-up
> > Reuters -
> >
> > ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters)
ed mars
Jul 22, 2012, 3:04:20 AM7/22/12
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In article <d6987ff6-0a88-4bc6-b9b7-
f4f7de...@u2g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>
looking for trouble.
I guess we know what you are.
> TMT
f4f7de...@u2g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>
Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Too bad that brains don't come with a gun purchase.
Only an idiot would assume that everyone wearing a gun is
>
> Too bad that brains don't come with a gun purchase.
looking for trouble.
I guess we know what you are.
> TMT
Scout
Jul 23, 2012, 7:04:42 PM7/23/12
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> In article <d6987ff6-0a88-4bc6-b9b7-
> f4f7de...@u2g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>
> Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Too bad that brains don't come with a gun purchase.
So tell me when you bought your guns were you crushed when you found out
that they don't make you smarter?
RD Sandman
Jul 23, 2012, 7:26:14 PM7/23/12
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"Scout" <me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in news:juklab
$hq7$1...@dont-email.me:
Shhhhhh, he still doesn't know that.......
--
If you hear me yell, "Eject! Eject! Eject!"
The last two will be echoes......
If you stop to ask "Why?" You will be talking to
yourself because you just became the pilot.
Sleep well, tonight.....
$hq7$1...@dont-email.me:
--
If you hear me yell, "Eject! Eject! Eject!"
The last two will be echoes......
If you stop to ask "Why?" You will be talking to
yourself because you just became the pilot.
Sleep well, tonight.....
Michael A. Terrell
Jul 23, 2012, 7:47:49 PM7/23/12
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RD Sandman wrote:
>
> Scout wrote:
> >
> >> Too_Many_Tools wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Too bad that brains don't come with a gun purchase.
> >
> > True, or you might be a lot smarter than you are.
> >
> > So tell me when you bought your guns were you crushed when you
> > found out that they don't make you smarter?
>
> Shhhhhh, he still doesn't know that.......
Wouldn't it save time to just list what he does know?
> >> Too_Many_Tools wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Too bad that brains don't come with a gun purchase.
> >
> > True, or you might be a lot smarter than you are.
> >
> > So tell me when you bought your guns were you crushed when you
> > found out that they don't make you smarter?
>
> Shhhhhh, he still doesn't know that.......
pyotr filipivich
Jul 24, 2012, 2:23:21 AM7/24/12
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"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.t...@earthlink.net> on Mon, 23 Jul 2012
19:47:49 -0400 typed in misc.survivalism the following:
1)
--
pyotr filipivich
Most journalists these days couldn't investigate a missing chocolate cake
at a pre-school without a Democrat office holder telling them what to look for,
where, and why it is Geroge Bush's fault.
19:47:49 -0400 typed in misc.survivalism the following:
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pyotr filipivich
Most journalists these days couldn't investigate a missing chocolate cake
at a pre-school without a Democrat office holder telling them what to look for,
where, and why it is Geroge Bush's fault.
Michael A. Terrell
Jul 24, 2012, 2:34:01 AM7/24/12
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pyotr filipivich wrote:
>
> "Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> >
> > Wouldn't it save time to just list what he does know?
>
> 1)
That's more like it.
> "Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> >
> > Wouldn't it save time to just list what he does know?
>
> 1)
RD Sandman
Jul 24, 2012, 11:48:47 AM7/24/12
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"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote in news:Yuednbw0_
6Mxf5DNnZ2d...@earthlink.com:
I think you just did.
6Mxf5DNnZ2d...@earthlink.com:
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