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Ph.D. Richard Phillips Feynman couldn't get into Columbia, but somehow, Barack Obama did?

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Something Smells

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Jun 18, 2012, 4:44:28 AM6/18/12
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Feynman, of Feynman diagrams fame, wasn't accepted at Columbia -
so he went to MIT, then Princeton.

Obama is far dumber than Feynman.

How exactly did Barack Obama get into Columbia?



de...@dudu.org

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Jun 18, 2012, 8:54:05 AM6/18/12
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On 18 Jun 2012 08:44:28 -0000, "Something Smells"
He didn't you fucking moron. He went to Harvard. And graduated magna
cum laude (with high honors).

Frank

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Jun 18, 2012, 9:09:32 AM6/18/12
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Oh, goody. Can you show us his grades? ;)

Ed Huntress

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Jun 18, 2012, 9:27:11 AM6/18/12
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He graduated from Columbia and then went to Harvard Law. Magna cum
laude requires a minimum grade point average at nearly every college
and university, or a class rank. At Harvard Law, magna cum laude is
reserved for the top 10% of the graduating class.

If you have any trouble interpreting that, you won't understand it
anyway, so you wouldn't understand the grades, either.

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Ed Huntress

azcountry

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Jun 18, 2012, 10:10:35 AM6/18/12
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Arab money.

Ed Huntress

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Jun 18, 2012, 10:31:56 AM6/18/12
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On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 07:10:35 -0700, azcountry <mu...@inthedesert.com>
wrote:
Regarding Feynman and Columbia:

"He had also applied for entrance to Columbia University but it seems
that because of the Jewish quota prevalent at the time he was not
accpeted, and he harbored a resentment against Columbia all his life"
-- _Climbing the Mountain: The Scientific Biography of Julian
Schwinger, page 218

You lazy, sloppy idiots couldn't find your asses with both hands.

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Ed Huntress

james g. keegan jr.

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Jun 18, 2012, 11:10:37 AM6/18/12
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You stupid shit-eating cocksucker: Obama got his undergraduate degree
at Columbia.

james g. keegan jr.

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Jun 18, 2012, 11:12:17 AM6/18/12
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So, Obama got accepted as part of the black quota, then.

rangerssuck

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Jun 18, 2012, 11:17:35 AM6/18/12
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On Jun 18, 10:31 am, Ed Huntress <huntre...@optonline.net> wrote:

> You lazy, sloppy idiots couldn't find your asses with both hands.

That should read, "You lazy, sloppy idiots couldn't find your asses
with both hands and an ass map."

Ed Huntress

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Jun 18, 2012, 11:40:26 AM6/18/12
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So how did you get in? Mentally handicapped quota?

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james g. keegan jr.

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Jun 18, 2012, 12:20:10 PM6/18/12
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So, you admit that Obama got accepted as part of the black quota, then.
Thanks. I think you've finished here; you may go now.

Ed Huntress

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Jun 18, 2012, 12:33:41 PM6/18/12
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You're going to have to find a new first language, Keegan. English
isn't it.

If I spent my time correcting your ignorance, mistakes, and stupidity,
there wouldn't be time left in the day to eat or brush my teeth. Your
ASSumption that Obama got in on a quota of any kind is something you
just pulled out of your ass -- even dumber than "Something Smells'"
ASSumption that Feynman wasn't smart enough to get into Columbia. What
kind of stupid ass realizes that Feynman was accepted by MIT, but
thinks he was too stupid for Columbia? Does that ignoramus know
anything about either university?

Of course not. Between the obvious stupidity of SS, and your stupid
schoolboy tricks, you guys deserve each other. You're each a real
credit to the intelligence of the current right wing. Between the two
of you, you probably each are wearing one red sock and one green one
-- and you each think you have another pair just like it at home.

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Ed Huntress

Jeff M

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Jun 18, 2012, 1:30:55 PM6/18/12
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What "black quota" are you imagining to exist? IIRC, Obama was admitted
to Columbia after the USSC Bakke USSC decision banned the use of quotas
in college admissions.

George Plimpton

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Jun 18, 2012, 1:59:48 PM6/18/12
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What you really ought to spend time doing is eliminating your left-wing
race obsession, not-so-fast eddie.

james g. keegan jr.

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Jun 18, 2012, 2:09:46 PM6/18/12
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Crikey, what a dope. First of all, /Bakke/ said that a person couldn't
be *excluded* due to race; a majority in the decision said that race
/could/ be used in determining whom to admit.

Second, /Bakke/ applied to public universities; Columbia is private.

Ed Huntress

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Jun 18, 2012, 2:14:32 PM6/18/12
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On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 10:59:48 -0700, George Plimpton <geo...@si.not>
wrote:
What you ought to spend time correcting is the delusion that you can
read others' minds, Plumper.

Here are some right-wing pricks making racist assumptions about Obama,
and a couple of us now have corrected them, pointing out that they
have no knowledge that there was any racism involved in his acceptance
at Columbia. In fact, his performance at Harvard Law suggests that he
was an exceptionally capable student, regardless of race. It was all
racist stereotyping and assumptions on their part.

So you, naturally, call ny attempt to correct racial stereotypes
"racism" -- a typical case of right-wing projection.

And that's why you have no idea where the real center is.

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Ed Huntress


George Plimpton

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Jun 18, 2012, 2:21:48 PM6/18/12
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> read others' minds, Professor Plimpton.

I don't need to read minds to detect the left-wing obsession with race
from which *you* suffer, you racist prickcheese.


> Here are some right-wing pricks making racist assumptions about Obama,

No, what we have are a bunch of racist race-obsessed left-wing
cocksuckers, you being one of them, who *allege* that a non-leftist is
making a racist assumption about Obama.

The vast majority of left-wing shitbags' accusations of "racism" aimed
at libertarians and conservatives are groundless. They are reflective
of *your* racism and race obsession.

Ed Huntress

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Jun 18, 2012, 2:36:37 PM6/18/12
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On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 11:21:48 -0700, George Plimpton <geo...@si.not>
What I object to is racism. I don't care much about race itself, one
way or the other.

YOU'RE the one who is obsessed with race, Plumper. If someone objects
to the remarks of a racist bottom feeder, like "Something Smells'"
ignorant remarks about Feynman and Obama, it pisses me off.

Then you can be counted on to object to the objection about overt
racism, and project your rightish hyper-sensitivity to accusations of
racism toward the right by projecting it on to someone else --
centrist or leftist, but generally people who object to RACISM.

You're transparent in that regard, Plumper, and consistent. So go sell
your warez somewhere else.

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Ed Huntress

George Plimpton

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Jun 18, 2012, 2:40:10 PM6/18/12
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No, you don't - you practice it and you preach it.

Ed Huntress

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Jun 18, 2012, 2:44:34 PM6/18/12
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On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 11:40:10 -0700, George Plimpton <geo...@si.not>
Give it up, Plumper. You're full of crap and you know it. You're just
trying to start an argument, and it's a stupid one.

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Ed Huntress

George Plimpton

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Jun 18, 2012, 2:50:02 PM6/18/12
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> Give it up, Prof. Plimpton. You're full of crap and you know it.

Nope - not full of crap, and I'm not giving it up. I will always oppose
the racist race obsession of leftist shitbags like you.

A. Skinheads and Democrats

Q. What are the two groups in America most obsessed with race, Alex?

Carol Kinsey Goman

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Jun 18, 2012, 2:51:06 PM6/18/12
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On 6/18/2012 1:44 AM, Something Smells wrote:
Obama was an affirmative action admit to Columbia. I thought everyone
knew that?

Ed Huntress

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Jun 18, 2012, 2:53:04 PM6/18/12
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On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 11:50:02 -0700, George Plimpton <geo...@si.not>
And I will always oppose the projecting, neurotic windbags like you.

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Ed Huntress

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Jun 18, 2012, 2:54:57 PM6/18/12
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Where did you hear that? NewsNutz?

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George Plimpton

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Jun 18, 2012, 2:57:38 PM6/18/12
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You're a joke. You're a racist far-left liar who deludes yourself into
thinking you've fooled people. You fool no one, not even yourself.

Jeff M

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Jun 18, 2012, 3:28:21 PM6/18/12
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Crikey, spare us from the ignorant who imagine themselves knowledgeable.
Bakke banned the use of "the black quota" you stupidly claimed that
Obama was admitted under, nitwit.


> Second, /Bakke/ applied to public universities; Columbia is private.

The Bakke decision certainly applied to (almost) all universities, even
private ones, that receive federal funding or participate in various
federal programs.

james g. keegan jr.

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Jun 18, 2012, 3:46:31 PM6/18/12
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It didn't, liar. A majority held that race can be used to decide who
can be admitted; a different majority held that race may not be used to
decide who is excluded.


>
>> Second, /Bakke/ applied to public universities; Columbia is private.
>
> The Bakke decision certainly applied to (almost) all universities, even
> private ones, that receive federal funding

Cite.

Frank

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Jun 18, 2012, 3:59:53 PM6/18/12
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Then, please explain to us, why he steadfastly refuses to disclose his
records.

Carol Kinsey Goman

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Jun 18, 2012, 4:05:16 PM6/18/12
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What's even more bizarre is that he doesn't actually and verbally
refuse, he just doesn't address the issue at all. My guess is that his
grades at Columbia were probably decent, but it's the high school grades
and SAT/ACT scores on which his admission to Columbia was based - or
*not* based, heh heh heh - that would prove embarrassing.

Ed Huntress

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Jun 18, 2012, 4:23:04 PM6/18/12
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On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:59:53 -0400, Frank
Why would you care about it, except in the hope that you'll find some
politifcal ammunition to use against him? Were Democrats screaming
about McCain's school records? No.

The only people who care are the ones who want to defeat him. If I
were him, I'd tell you to go piss up a rope.

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Ed Huntress

Ed Huntress

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Jun 18, 2012, 4:25:48 PM6/18/12
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Why should he? The only ones asking for it are right wingers who
wouldn't vore for him anyway.

So why should he?

> My guess is that his
>grades at Columbia were probably decent, but it's the high school grades
>and SAT/ACT scores on which his admission to Columbia was based - or
>*not* based, heh heh heh - that would prove embarrassing.

So, if it is, that's a good reason to tell you to stuff it, isn't it?

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Ed Huntress

Jim Wilkins

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Jun 18, 2012, 4:37:55 PM6/18/12
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"Carol Kinsey Goman" <ckg@förbes.com> wrote in message
news:IYSdnaUyMJ-
>but it's the high school grades and SAT/ACT scores on which his
>admission to Columbia was based - or *not* based, heh heh heh - that
>would prove embarrassing.

His high school grades got him into Occidental College in LA. He
transferred to Columbia two years later.
http://www.nysun.com/new-york/obamas-years-at-columbia-are-a-mystery/85015/

Grades aren't everything, I was a bored B/C student with the best math
+ English SAT scores in the class, ~1480 (of 1600) IIRC. When I was
finally motivated to study hard for an EE degree in night school I
maintained a straight 4.0.



Jeff M

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Jun 18, 2012, 5:06:56 PM6/18/12
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Your ignorance and inability to grasp legal concepts doesn't make me a
"liar." It just demonstrates that you are a nitwit.

Race, by itself, cannot "be used to decide who can be admitted." That
is the essence of the Bakke decision. It can be used as one factor,
among others, to decide who is admitted.

>>> Second, /Bakke/ applied to public universities; Columbia is private.
>>
>> The Bakke decision certainly applied to (almost) all universities, even
>> private ones, that receive federal funding
>
> Cite.

No. Cites are for people who can understand them, not for you. You
could either enroll in one of my law classes sometime or one taught
elsewhere. Then you could ask an expert to help you understand the
relevant law. But, in the meantime, feel free to try providing a
contrary and credible cite to support your ignorant claim that Obama was
admitted to Columbia under their "black quota" system.


Carol Kinsey Goman

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Jun 18, 2012, 5:13:54 PM6/18/12
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After years of evasion, he did finally - sort of - release his birth
certificate. Why do that but not the other? If he's not going to
release his college records, why not *say* that he's not under any
obligation to release them and he sees no reason to release them? Why
pretend as if he doesn't hear the demands to see them?


>> My guess is that his
>> grades at Columbia were probably decent, but it's the high school grades
>> and SAT/ACT scores on which his admission to Columbia was based - or
>> *not* based, heh heh heh - that would prove embarrassing.
>
> So, if it is, that's a good reason to tell you to stuff it, isn't it?

But why won't he come out and explicitly tell us to stuff it?

pyotr filipivich

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Jun 18, 2012, 5:16:06 PM6/18/12
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"Something Smells" <did-h...@barackobama.com> on 18 Jun 2012
08:44:28 -0000 typed in misc.survivalism the following:
>Feynman, of Feynman diagrams fame, wasn't accepted at Columbia -
>so he went to MIT, then Princeton.
>
>Obama is far dumber than Feynman.
>
>How exactly did Barack Obama get into Columbia?

When Feynman went to college (circa 1935) it took smarts to get
in, especially to major in Physics. And did Feynman ever have smarts,
particularly when it came to math.

Things were different in 1981 when Obama is suppose to have
transferred to Columbia. And sad to say, by '81, "Political
Science" was not exactly a rigorous discipline, even at Columbia.
Slightly more rigorous than Post Colonial Studies or Literary
Deconstruction, but still much less than Physics in 1935. Or even
Physics in 1981.

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Obi-wan once observed"The Force can have a strong influence on the weak-minded."
Who knew Dubya was a Jedi Knight?

pyotr filipivich

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Frank <frankperi...@comcast.net> on Mon, 18 Jun 2012 09:09:32
-0400 typed in misc.survivalism the following:
>On 6/18/2012 8:54 AM, de...@dudu.org wrote:
>> On 18 Jun 2012 08:44:28 -0000, "Something Smells"
>> <did-h...@barackobama.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Feynman, of Feynman diagrams fame, wasn't accepted at Columbia -
>>> so he went to MIT, then Princeton.
>>>
>>> Obama is far dumber than Feynman.
>>>
>>> How exactly did Barack Obama get into Columbia?
>>>
>>>
>> He didn't you fucking moron. He went to Harvard. And graduated magna
>> cum laude (with high honors).
>>
>Oh, goody. Can you show us his grades? ;)

Excuse me, I just snorted coffee all over my keyboard.

Apparently Deepak Dudu can't even read and retain the Wikipedia
entry, let alone what Barak "wrote" in his autobiographies.

Well, I've long since given up any hope of finding sentient life
on Planet Dudu.

Carol Kinsey Goman

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Jun 18, 2012, 5:18:36 PM6/18/12
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On 6/18/2012 1:37 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
> "Carol Kinsey Goman" <ckg@förbes.com> wrote in message
> news:IYSdnaUyMJ-
>> but it's the high school grades and SAT/ACT scores on which his
>> admission to Columbia was based - or *not* based, heh heh heh - that
>> would prove embarrassing.
>
> His high school grades got him into Occidental College in LA.

Do you know anything about Occidental? It's a liberal arts college,
with quite an emphasis on the first word. I applied there, and was
required to write an essay for acceptance. I wrote one condemning the
Isla Vista rioters who burned a bank down in 1969. I didn't get a
second look.

A black with mediocre grades is *exactly* whom Occidental would be
falling all over themselves to admit.


> He transferred to Columbia two years later.
> http://www.nysun.com/new-york/obamas-years-at-columbia-are-a-mystery/85015/
>
> Grades aren't everything, I was a bored B/C student with the best math
> + English SAT scores in the class, ~1480 (of 1600) IIRC. When I was
> finally motivated to study hard for an EE degree in night school I
> maintained a straight 4.0.

As I said, I don't think Obama's marks are likely to be all that bad, if
they're ever seen. What they *AREN'T* is indicative of the intellectual
giant his fawning followers want to make him out to be.

james g. keegan jr.

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Jun 18, 2012, 5:20:07 PM6/18/12
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On 6/18/2012 2:06 PM, Jeff M wrote:
> On 6/18/2012 2:46 PM, james g. keegan jr. wrote:


>>>> Second, /Bakke/ applied to public universities; Columbia is private.
>>>
>>> The Bakke decision certainly applied to (almost) all universities, even
>>> private ones, that receive federal funding
>>
>> Cite.
>
> No.

Concession of defeat noted and accepted.

Ed Huntress

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On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 14:13:54 -0700, Carol Kinsey Goman
I was opposed to that. I wanted the birthers to be humiliated in a
high court.

>Why do that but not the other? If he's not going to
>release his college records, why not *say* that he's not under any
>obligation to release them and he sees no reason to release them? Why
>pretend as if he doesn't hear the demands to see them?

Because you aren't worth listening to. I agree. The best thing to do
with the birthers and other righties is to let them stew in their own
juices. You'll change nothing, except to demonstrate that your only
point is to make political hay against him.

He has nothing to gain by paying attention to you. You provide a loony
background noise of tinhorns and mouth-breathing, which could be
helpful as a contrast in the election.

Because, dear Carol, who the hell cares? We know he graduated with
high honors from Harvard Law. Does any sane person really care what
his undergraduate grades were?

No. Only the politicos trying to find a talking point. You can safely
be ignored.

>
>
>>> My guess is that his
>>> grades at Columbia were probably decent, but it's the high school grades
>>> and SAT/ACT scores on which his admission to Columbia was based - or
>>> *not* based, heh heh heh - that would prove embarrassing.
>>
>> So, if it is, that's a good reason to tell you to stuff it, isn't it?
>
>But why won't he come out and explicitly tell us to stuff it?

Why should he? Do you talk to cockroaches?

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Ed Huntress

Jeff M

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Jun 18, 2012, 5:26:34 PM6/18/12
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Your demonstration of ignorance, immaturity and dishonesty is noted with
contempt.

Jim Wilkins

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"Ed Huntress" <hunt...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> ...>
> Because, dear Carol, who the hell cares? We know he graduated with
> high honors from Harvard Law. Does any sane person really care what
> his undergraduate grades were?
>
> No. Only the politicos trying to find a talking point. You can
> safely
> be ignored.
>
> --
> Ed Huntress

Obama's early history is no more relevant than Romney's.



Jeff M

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On 6/18/2012 4:16 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
> "Something Smells" <did-h...@barackobama.com> on 18 Jun 2012
> 08:44:28 -0000 typed in misc.survivalism the following:
>> Feynman, of Feynman diagrams fame, wasn't accepted at Columbia -
>> so he went to MIT, then Princeton.
>>
>> Obama is far dumber than Feynman.
>>
>> How exactly did Barack Obama get into Columbia?
>
> When Feynman went to college (circa 1935) it took smarts to get
> in, especially to major in Physics. And did Feynman ever have smarts,
> particularly when it came to math.

It also usually took a lot of money, influence, white skin. In
Feynman's case, as with many others in that era, being either Jewish or
having a "Jewish-sounding" name couldn't have helped.

Liberals have done much to make a college education more accessible for
more people, even though Right-wingers have always opposed and continue
to oppose the "snobs" who think a college education, even for the sons
and daughters of the unprivileged working class, is a good thing.

> Things were different in 1981 when Obama is suppose to have
> transferred to Columbia. And sad to say, by '81, "Political
> Science" was not exactly a rigorous discipline, even at Columbia.
> Slightly more rigorous than Post Colonial Studies or Literary
> Deconstruction, but still much less than Physics in 1935. Or even
> Physics in 1981.

Just because political science keeps proving so much of core right-wing
dogma and perhaps many of your own most cherished political beliefs to
be false, distorted or based on nothing more substantial than wishful
thinking, outright lies, spin and propaganda, does NOT mean that there
is anything wrong with either how political science is taught in
universities or how it is practiced by professionals and academics.

Dakota

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Jun 18, 2012, 5:54:45 PM6/18/12
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On 6/18/2012 1:51 PM, Carol Kinsey Goman wrote:
> On 6/18/2012 1:44 AM, Something Smells wrote:
>> Feynman, of Feynman diagrams fame, wasn't accepted at Columbia -
>> so he went to MIT, then Princeton.
>
He was refused entry to his first choice Columbia University because
of the "Jewish quota" and attended instead the Massachusetts Institute
of Technology, where he received a bachelor's degree in 1939, and was
named a Putnam Fellow.

http://www.physicsoftheuniverse.com/scientists_feynman.html
>
>> Obama is far dumber than Feynman.
>>
>> How exactly did Barack Obama get into Columbia?
>
He wasn't Jewish and passed the exam.
>
> Obama was an affirmative action admit to Columbia. I thought everyone
> knew that?

Only idiots believe such nonsense.

Frank

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Jun 18, 2012, 7:17:41 PM6/18/12
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The most embarrassing information may be the source of his funding.
Some suggest he came to school as a foreign minority. What ever the
situation, he is definitely hiding something highly controversial.

Frank

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Jun 18, 2012, 7:18:46 PM6/18/12
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No, but we talk to assholes like you ;)

Frank

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Jun 18, 2012, 7:23:12 PM6/18/12
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I remember democrats screaming about McCain's medical records when he
had skin cancer. It was not enough for McCain's doctor to appear before
them and tell them McCain was cured. They wanted to see the actual
medical records.

Of course we want Obama defeated. The more people know about the real
Obama, the less that will vote for him.

Edward A. Falk

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Jun 18, 2012, 7:24:38 PM6/18/12
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In article <WAQB0AUE4107...@reece.net.au>,
Something Smells <did-h...@barackobama.com> wrote:
>Feynman, of Feynman diagrams fame, wasn't accepted at Columbia -
>so he went to MIT, then Princeton.
>
>Obama is far dumber than Feynman.

That's your opinion.


>How exactly did Barack Obama get into Columbia?

What exactly is your point? That any time someone dumber than
Feynman gets into Columbia, it's suspicious? That makes no sense
at all. Schools accept and reject for all sorts of reasons. I
know someone from Boston who was accepted into Caltech, but not MIT.
I know someone from Pasadena who was accepted into MIT but not
Caltech. It happens; you can conclude almost nothing from it.

--
-Ed Falk, fa...@despams.r.us.com
http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/

Ed Huntress

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On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 19:18:46 -0400, Frank
Well, then, what does it say about you, Frank? I mean, if you think
I'm an asshole, what the hell are you doing answering my posts? <g>

Don't take that stuff too personally. I mean it in a metaphorical
sense. Given how disrespectful the right has been toward Obama, and
given the fact that nothing he says or does would change your vote,
why should he show you any more respect than you have shown to him?

He started out trying to please everyone. After being called a "liar"
in a State of the Union address, and being depicted as Hitler in
teabagger rallies, what in the hell does he owe you, anyway, in terms
of respect? I think he finally gets it. You are meaningless to him. At
least he doesn't call you white trash... He just ignores you.

You've made your own bed on that point. Now the election is going to
come down to the choices made by that part of the independent center
that will make their decisions based on events and circumstances right
before the election. The ideologues are fully hardened and
impenetrable. Those who are deciding on the kind of man we want to
represent us and our country have decided. All that's left is maybe
10% that will swing on the state of the economy or other objective
factors.

So you're worth as much of his attention as cockroaches. That doesn't
mean you *are* cockroaches. It just means you're about as important to
his campaign as cockroaches are.

d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

Sid9

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Jun 18, 2012, 7:41:13 PM6/18/12
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"Frank" <frankperi...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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You've had four years of this nonsense, birthers, "Hussein", Muslim.....all
failures.
Now you want to go back to his high school records!
Don't you get it?
No one cares.

Frank

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Jun 18, 2012, 7:55:52 PM6/18/12
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I'm not trying to change you - I just want to annoy you ;)

Carol Kinsey Goman

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I'm sure if he's re-elected, he'll boot Jack Lew out and hire you.


>> Why do that but not the other? If he's not going to
>> release his college records, why not *say* that he's not under any
>> obligation to release them and he sees no reason to release them? Why
>> pretend as if he doesn't hear the demands to see them?
>
> Because you aren't worth listening to. I agree. The best thing to do
> with the birthers and other righties is to let them stew in

You just can't keep your left-wing sentiment repressed long enough to
maintain the charade of being a "centrist" Republican, not-so-fast eddie.

james g. keegan jr.

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On 6/18/2012 2:26 PM, Jeff M wrote:
> On 6/18/2012 4:20 PM, james g. keegan jr. wrote:
>> On 6/18/2012 2:06 PM, Jeff M wrote:
>>> On 6/18/2012 2:46 PM, james g. keegan jr. wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>>> Second, /Bakke/ applied to public universities; Columbia is private.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Bakke decision certainly applied to (almost) all universities,
>>>>> even
>>>>> private ones, that receive federal funding
>>>>
>>>> Cite.
>>>
>>> No.
>>
>> Concession of defeat noted and accepted.
>
> Your demonstration

You don't know what you're talking about. You got /Bakke/ all wrong.

Carol Kinsey Goman

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Jun 18, 2012, 8:25:32 PM6/18/12
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It's a fact.

George Plimpton

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It's entertaining to remind you of what an asshole we know you are.

Jeff M

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On 6/18/2012 7:23 PM, james g. keegan jr. wrote:
[snip]
> You don't know what you're talking about. You got /Bakke/ all wrong.


That's fine with me. You've already demonstrated that you are an
ignorant fool, as well as an ill-mannered punk, so keep thinking
whatever you want. It doesn't matter to me. You aren't the first
utterly unqualified blowhard to imagine that he's some sort of legal
expert. There are plenty more like you infesting the infobahn every day.

In any case, if there are any other readers of the thread interested in
the subject, I'm sure they're more than smart enough to look it up
themselves rather than pay any attention to what an obvious nitwit like
you has to say, or give your blather any credence.

james g. keegan jr.

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Jun 18, 2012, 10:04:48 PM6/18/12
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On 6/18/2012 6:31 PM, Jeff M wrote:
> On 6/18/2012 7:23 PM, james g. keegan jr. wrote:
> [snip]
>> You don't know what you're talking about. You got /Bakke/ all wrong.
>
>
> That's fine with me.

So, you really ought to shut your yap about it.

The basic issue is, was Obama admitted to Columbia on something other
than his grades and test scores. I think he probably was, and that's
the reason he won't release his records. The problem is that you true
believers have made him out to be not simply smart, or even considerably
smarter and brighter than average, but rather...The Smartest, Brightest,
Most Intellectually Accomplished President *EVER*!!!

Clearly you true believer fuckwits are wrong.

Jeff M

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Jun 18, 2012, 10:35:39 PM6/18/12
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On 6/18/2012 9:04 PM, james g. keegan jr. wrote:
> On 6/18/2012 6:31 PM, Jeff M wrote:
>> On 6/18/2012 7:23 PM, james g. keegan jr. wrote:
>> [snip]
>>> You don't know what you're talking about. You got /Bakke/ all wrong.
>>
>>
>> That's fine with me.
>
> So, you really ought to shut your yap about it.

It's the stupid things you say, not my pointing them out, that show you
to be such an idiot. So my keeping quiet about your stupidity wouldn't
make you look any less stupid to everyone else.

> The basic issue is,

that you're just one of many rightard drones swamping the internet with
lies and smears you think will somehow advance the rightard political
agenda, or maybe just your own, usually racist, hatred of Obama.

You kept insisting on maintaining the patently false claim that Obama
was able to transfer into Columbia because of some claimed, although
imaginary, "black quota." But that's a lie, and a poorly crafted,
rather obvious, and easily disproved lie. When I did disprove it, out
you come the usual lame rightard litany of personal insults, evasions,
and nonsense.

Now, you want to completely redefine what the "basic issue" is, into
something else entirely. Now, you want to pretend that you weren't
vociferously and repeatedly trying to peddle your lies here, and pretend
instead that the issue and your position on it, were something
different, something that doesn't demonstrate what a malicious and inept
liar you've already proven yourself to be. You are also, of course,
trotting out the old tactic of hurling accusations, as if those who
merely pointed out your lies were the real problem here, not you,
because of your lying.

Well, nitwit, that ain't gonna work. Maybe you should just quit now,
before you dig the hole you're in any deeper and embarrass yourself
further.

Too_Many_Tools

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On Jun 18, 3:44 am, "Something Smells" <did-he-...@barackobama.com>
wrote:
> Feynman, of Feynman diagrams fame, wasn't accepted at Columbia -
> so he went to MIT, then Princeton.
>
> Obama is far dumber than Feynman.
>
> How exactly did Barack Obama get into Columbia?

In a car...or maybe a bus...or maybe he walked.

But thank God that you didn't go.

TMT

Mal

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Maybe he was part Cherokee.

Too_Many_Tools

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On Jun 18, 1:53 pm, Ed Huntress <huntre...@optonline.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 11:50:02 -0700, George Plimpton <geo...@si.not>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On 6/18/2012 11:44 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:
> >> On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 11:40:10 -0700, George Plimpton <geo...@si.not>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> On 6/18/2012 11:36 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:
> >>>> On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 11:21:48 -0700, George Plimpton <geo...@si.not>
> >>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>> On 6/18/2012 11:14 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:
> >>>>>> On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 10:59:48 -0700, George Plimpton <geo...@si.not>
> >>>>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> On 6/18/2012 9:33 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 09:20:10 -0700, "james g. keegan jr."
> >>>>>>>> <jgkeegan@gma l.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>> On 6/18/2012 8:40 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 08:12:17 -0700, "james g. keegan jr."
> >>>>>>>>>> <jgkeegan@gma l.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 6/18/2012 7:31 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 07:10:35 -0700, azcountry <mu...@inthedesert.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/18/2012 1:44 AM, Something Smells wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feynman, of Feynman diagrams fame, wasn't accepted at Columbia -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> so he went to MIT, then Princeton.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obama is far dumber than Feynman.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> How exactly did Barack Obama get into Columbia?
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Arab money.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regarding Feynman and Columbia:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> "He had also applied for entrance to Columbia University but it seems
> >>>>>>>>>>>> that because of the Jewish quota prevalent at the time he was not
> >>>>>>>>>>>> accpeted, and he harbored a resentment against Columbia all his life"
> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- _Climbing the Mountain: The Scientific Biography of Julian
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Schwinger, page 218
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> You lazy, sloppy idiots couldn't find your asses with both hands.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> So, Obama got accepted as part of the black quota, then.
>
> >>>>>>>>>> So how did you get in?
>
> >>>>>>>>> So, you admit that Obama got accepted as part of the black quota
>
> >>>>>>>> You're going to have to find a new first language, Keegan. English
> >>>>>>>> isn't it.
>
> >>>>>>>> If I spent my time correcting
>
> >>>>>>> What you really ought to spend time doing is eliminating your left-wing
> >>>>>>> race obsession, not-so-fast eddie.
>
> >>>>>> What you ought to spend time correcting is the delusion that you can
> >>>>>> read others' minds, Professor Plimpton.
>
> >>>>> I don't need to read minds to detect the left-wing obsession with race
> >>>> >from which *you* suffer, you racist prickcheese.
>
> >>>>>> Here are some right-wing pricks making racist assumptions about Obama,
>
> >>>>> No, what we have are a bunch of racist race-obsessed left-wing
> >>>>> cocksuckers, you being one of them, who *allege* that a non-leftist is
> >>>>> making a racist assumption about Obama.
>
> >>>> What I object to is racism.
>
> >>> No, you don't - you practice it and you preach it.
>
> >> Give it up, Prof. Plimpton. You're full of crap and you know it.
>
> >Nope - not full of crap, and I'm not giving it up.  I will always oppose
> >the racist race obsession of leftist shitbags like you.
>
> And I will always oppose the projecting, neurotic windbags like you.
>
> --
> Ed Huntress- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

And Ed is my Hero of the Day.

TMT

Strabo

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On 6/18/2012 9:27 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 09:09:32 -0400, Frank
> <frankperi...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> On 6/18/2012 8:54 AM, de...@dudu.org wrote:
>>> On 18 Jun 2012 08:44:28 -0000, "Something Smells"
>>> <did-h...@barackobama.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Feynman, of Feynman diagrams fame, wasn't accepted at Columbia -
>>>> so he went to MIT, then Princeton.
>>>>
>>>> Obama is far dumber than Feynman.
>>>>
>>>> How exactly did Barack Obama get into Columbia?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> He didn't you fucking moron. He went to Harvard. And graduated magna
>>> cum laude (with high honors).
>>>
>> Oh, goody. Can you show us his grades? ;)
>
> He graduated from Columbia and then went to Harvard Law. Magna cum
> laude requires a minimum grade point average at nearly every college
> and university, or a class rank. At Harvard Law, magna cum laude is
> reserved for the top 10% of the graduating class.
>

You can prove this of course?


>
> If you have any trouble interpreting that, you won't understand it
> anyway, so you wouldn't understand the grades, either.
>

We would understand his real birth certificate. You know, the one
with the delivery doctor's name and signature. Now, where is that guy
and the witnessing notary...

We would also understand his citizenship papers. You know, the one
where he gave up his Indonesian citizenship and became an American.

Oh, and then there's the matter of his social security card/number...
...and...

No matter. The federal government is null and void. The state governments
will now act.


Too_Many_Tools

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On Jun 18, 9:31 am, Ed Huntress <huntre...@optonline.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 07:10:35 -0700, azcountry <mu...@inthedesert.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On 6/18/2012 1:44 AM, Something Smells wrote:
> >> Feynman, of Feynman diagrams fame, wasn't accepted at Columbia -
> >> so he went to MIT, then Princeton.
>
> >> Obama is far dumber than Feynman.
>
> >> How exactly did Barack Obama get into Columbia?
>
> >Arab money.
>
> Regarding Feynman and Columbia:
>
> "He had also applied for entrance to Columbia University but it seems
> that because of the Jewish quota prevalent at the time he was not
> accpeted, and he harbored a resentment against Columbia all his life"
> -- _Climbing the Mountain: The Scientific Biography of Julian
> Schwinger, page 218
>
> You lazy, sloppy idiots couldn't find your asses with both hands.
>
> --
> Ed Huntress

It's hard when they their head up their ass all the time

TMT

Too_Many_Tools

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On Jun 18, 3:23 pm, Ed Huntress <huntre...@optonline.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:59:53 -0400, Frank
>
>
>
>
>
> <frankperiodlogu...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >On 6/18/2012 9:27 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:
> >> On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 09:09:32 -0400, Frank
> >> <frankperiodlogu...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >>> On 6/18/2012 8:54 AM, d...@dudu.org wrote:
> >>>> On 18 Jun 2012 08:44:28 -0000, "Something Smells"
> >>>> <did-he-...@barackobama.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>> Feynman, of Feynman diagrams fame, wasn't accepted at Columbia -
> >>>>> so he went to MIT, then Princeton.
>
> >>>>> Obama is far dumber than Feynman.
>
> >>>>> How exactly did Barack Obama get into Columbia?
>
> >>>> He didn't you fucking moron.  He went to Harvard.  And graduated magna
> >>>> cum laude (with high honors).
>
> >>> Oh, goody.  Can you show us his grades? ;)
>
> >> He graduated from Columbia and then went to Harvard Law. Magna cum
> >> laude requires a minimum grade point average at nearly every college
> >> and university, or a class rank. At Harvard Law, magna cum laude is
> >> reserved for the top 10% of the graduating class.
>
> >> If you have any trouble interpreting that, you won't understand it
> >> anyway, so you wouldn't understand the grades, either.
>
> >Then, please explain to us, why he steadfastly refuses to disclose his
> >records.
>
> Why would you care about it, except in the hope that you'll find some
> politifcal ammunition to use against him? Were Democrats screaming
> about McCain's school records? No.
>
> The only people who care are the ones who want to defeat him. If I
> were him, I'd tell you to go piss up a rope.
>
> --
> Ed Huntress- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

RIght...conservatives are grasping at straws.

Their fear that Obama will be reelected is a stink that every
conservative wears.

TMT

james g. keegan jr.

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On 6/18/2012 7:35 PM, Jeff M wrote:
> On 6/18/2012 9:04 PM, james g. keegan jr. wrote:
>> On 6/18/2012 6:31 PM, Jeff M wrote:
>>> On 6/18/2012 7:23 PM, james g. keegan jr. wrote:
>>> [snip]
>>>> You don't know what you're talking about. You got /Bakke/ all wrong.
>>>
>>>
>>> That's fine with me.
>>
>> So, you really ought to shut your yap about it.
>
> It's the stupid things you say,

You fucked up /Bakke/. Just admit it and move on.


>> The basic issue is,was Obama admitted to Columbia on something other
>> than his grades and test scores. I think he probably was, and that's
>> the reason he won't release his records. The problem is that you true
>> believers have made him out to be not simply smart, or even considerably
>> smarter and brighter than average, but rather...The Smartest, Brightest,
>> Most Intellectually Accomplished President *EVER*!!!
>>
>> Clearly you true believer fuckwits are wrong.

You simply can't address it. You're one of the true believer fuckwits.

Obama is *not* the "genius award" guy you fuckwits want to make him out
to be. Bright, but not exceptionally bright.

George Plimpton

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On 6/18/2012 8:16 PM, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
> On Jun 18, 3:44 am, "Something Smells" <did-he-...@barackobama.com>
> wrote:
>> Feynman, of Feynman diagrams fame, wasn't accepted at Columbia -
>> so he went to MIT, then Princeton.
>>
>> Obama is far dumber than Feynman.
>>
>> How exactly did Barack Obama get into Columbia?
>
> In a car...or maybe a bus...or maybe he walked.

He got in as an affirmative action admit.

Gunner Asch

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On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 19:23:12 -0400, Frank
Defeated? Change that to "deleted" and it will satisfy a large segment
of the population

Gunner

--
"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry
capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency.
It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an
Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense
and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have
such a man for their? president.. Blaming the prince of the
fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of
fools that made him their prince".

Mork

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In article <n59ut7ps56tmjev6a...@4ax.com>
de...@dudu.org wrote:
>
> On 18 Jun 2012 08:44:28 -0000, "Something Smells"
> <did-h...@barackobama.com> wrote:
>
> >Feynman, of Feynman diagrams fame, wasn't accepted at Columbia -
> >so he went to MIT, then Princeton.
> >
> >Obama is far dumber than Feynman.
> >
> >How exactly did Barack Obama get into Columbia?
> >
> >
> He didn't you fucking moron. He went to Harvard. And graduated magna
> cum laude (with high honors).

How did he get in there after only two years at Occidental and
no bachelors degree?

Hmmm?

Repairing teleprompters for extra credit?




K. Morse

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Jun 19, 2012, 3:50:41 AM6/19/12
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On 18 Jun 2012, "Something Smells" <did-h...@barackobama.com> posted
some news:WAQB0AUE4107...@reece.net.au:

> Feynman, of Feynman diagrams fame, wasn't accepted at Columbia -
> so he went to MIT, then Princeton.
>
> Obama is far dumber than Feynman.
>
> How exactly did Barack Obama get into Columbia?

He was an underprivileged black homosexual atheist. They let those kind
in without even asking for application.

Jeff M

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On 6/18/2012 11:01 PM, james g. keegan jr. wrote:
> On 6/18/2012 7:35 PM, Jeff M wrote:
>> On 6/18/2012 9:04 PM, james g. keegan jr. wrote:
>>> On 6/18/2012 6:31 PM, Jeff M wrote:
>>>> On 6/18/2012 7:23 PM, james g. keegan jr. wrote: [snip]
>>>>> You don't know what you're talking about. You got /Bakke/
>>>>> all wrong.
>>>>
>>>> That's fine with me.
>>>
>>> So, you really ought to shut your yap about it.
>>
>> It's the stupid things you say,not my pointing them out, that show
>> you to be such an idiot. So my keeping quiet about your stupidity
>> wouldn't make you look any less stupid to everyone else.
>
> You fucked up /Bakke/. Just admit it and move on.

No, I clearly understand Bakke perfectly well, and what it means in
terms of disproving your clumsy lie about Columbia's non-existent "black
quota" system. But you still don't get it. Bakke disallowed using
racial quotas for admissions, and Obama wasn't admitted to Columbia
because of them. You got caught lying, and saying stupid, easily
disproved stuff, but you're too much of a dishonest coward to "admit it
and move on" after being caught lying, and too much of a blowhard to
give up lying.

In fact, you're such a coward that you've been resorting to editing
multiple paragraphs out of my posts before you reply. (I've restored
them here) This demonstrates a few things.

First, you've shown yourself to be a coward of the worst sort, the sort
that feels compelled to run away from mere words. You're too much of a
mental weakling to face the truth, or to stop your lies even when
there's absolutely no chance anyone will believe them.

Second, your behavior once again confirms that you are just a
fundamentally dishonest person. This all started with my calling you on
your clumsy, racist lie that Obama was admitted to Columbia under their
""black quota" system, although the Bakke decision had previously
prohibited any use of racial quotas in college admissions. You tried
just repeating the lie, then defending it, then you tried to pretend
that your lies weren't the issue, or that you never told the lies to
begin with. But piling more lies on to your lies won't help you.

Third, you've proven that you know you've lost the argument after being
well and truly caught out in your lies, with me not allowing you to
squirm away from what you've done. In my experience, those who resort
to heavily editing other's posts before they can muster up a reply have
a low intellect to go along with their low character, always. It's the
silly ploy and desperate last gasp of those who've already lost, lack
the courage to face the words that prove it so, and are so dim they
think cutting up or removing those words will help their already lost
cause in any way.

Such twits aren't worth bothering with in the long run, and now your
every post is demonstrating just how true that is.


>>> The basic issue is,

that you're just one of many rightard drones swamping the internet with
lies and smears you think will somehow advance the rightard political
agenda, or maybe just your own, usually racist, hatred of Obama.

You kept insisting on maintaining the patently false claim that Obama
was able to transfer into Columbia because of some claimed, although
imaginary, "black quota." But that's a lie, and a poorly crafted,
rather obvious, and easily disproved lie. When I did disprove it, out
you come the usual lame rightard litany of personal insults, evasions,
and nonsense.

Now, you want to completely redefine what the "basic issue" is, into
something else entirely. Now, you want to pretend that you weren't
vociferously and repeatedly trying to peddle your lies here, and pretend
instead that the issue and your position on it, were something
different, something that doesn't demonstrate what a malicious and inept
liar you've already proven yourself to be. You are also, of course,
trotting out the old tactic of hurling accusations, as if those who
merely pointed out your lies were the real problem here, not you,
because of your lying.

Well, nitwit, that ain't gonna work. Maybe you should just quit now,
before you dig the hole you're in any deeper and embarrass yourself further.


was Obama admitted to Columbia on something
>>> other than his grades and test scores. I think he probably was,
>>> and that's the reason he won't release his records. The problem
>>> is that you true believers have made him out to be not simply
>>> smart, or even considerably smarter and brighter than average,
>>> but rather...The Smartest, Brightest, Most Intellectually
>>> Accomplished President *EVER*!!!
>>>
>>> Clearly you true believer fuckwits are wrong.
>
> You simply can't address it. You're one of the true believer
> fuckwits.

Why should I "address it"? The issue I've been addressing is your
clumsy lie that Obama was admitted to Columbia due to their non-existent
"black quota," not the distraction you've been trying to introduce of
how intelligent Obama is or isn't.

Why can't you address the fact that you've been caught lying?

It's certain that Obama is vastly more intelligent than you are, and
beyond that, I seldom engage in trying to estimate precisely how
intelligent smart people like Obama are, or precisely how stupid nitwits
like you are. It's not my issue. My issue was you and your stupid lies.

> Obama is *not* the "genius award" guy you fuckwits want to make him
> out to be. Bright, but not exceptionally bright.

Not my issue, but you're hardly in any position to make claims about
your betters, not after the display of ignorant stupidity you've just
put on for our amusement. Stop embarrassing yourself.


Ed Huntress

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On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:26:22 -0700, George Plimpton <geo...@si.not>
wrote:
Go drink your fresh-squeezed orange juice, Plumper. It might improve
your disposition -- although that may be beyond help.

--
Ed Huntress

Ed Huntress

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Jun 19, 2012, 8:28:20 AM6/19/12
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On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:22:06 -0700, Carol Kinsey Goman
Are you Plumper's alter ego? Is he nym-shifting here?

Only a complete rightard would make that mistake, Carol. Anyone with a
shred of decency or character who watches these NG's will recognize
that the left is silly and the right is obnoxious. Neither group has
any more sense than a well-trained quadruped, but obnoxious behavior
is far more objectionable.

And when you can't take the heat, you call anyone from the center a
"leftist." That tells us something about you, rather than me.

--
Ed Huntress

Frank

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Jun 19, 2012, 8:51:42 AM6/19/12
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Out of office.
Jimmy Carter needs an assistant for his habitat for humanity work.
"Hey, Boy, get me some coffee."

Ed Huntress

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On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 23:36:12 -0400, Strabo <str...@flashlight.com>
wrote:

>On 6/18/2012 9:27 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:
>> On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 09:09:32 -0400, Frank
>> <frankperi...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/18/2012 8:54 AM, de...@dudu.org wrote:
>>>> On 18 Jun 2012 08:44:28 -0000, "Something Smells"
>>>> <did-h...@barackobama.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Feynman, of Feynman diagrams fame, wasn't accepted at Columbia -
>>>>> so he went to MIT, then Princeton.
>>>>>
>>>>> Obama is far dumber than Feynman.
>>>>>
>>>>> How exactly did Barack Obama get into Columbia?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> He didn't you fucking moron. He went to Harvard. And graduated magna
>>>> cum laude (with high honors).
>>>>
>>> Oh, goody. Can you show us his grades? ;)
>>
>> He graduated from Columbia and then went to Harvard Law. Magna cum
>> laude requires a minimum grade point average at nearly every college
>> and university, or a class rank. At Harvard Law, magna cum laude is
>> reserved for the top 10% of the graduating class.
>>
>
>You can prove this of course?

Is _The Harvard Crimson_ good enough for your skepticism? If so, then
here:

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2007/1/19/obama-left-mark-on-hls-days/

If not, go to your local university library and check out a copy of
the _Harvard Alumni Directory_ for 1991.

>
>
> >
>> If you have any trouble interpreting that, you won't understand it
>> anyway, so you wouldn't understand the grades, either.
>>
>
>We would understand his real birth certificate. You know, the one
>with the delivery doctor's name and signature. Now, where is that guy
>and the witnessing notary...

If someone rolled Obama's birth certificate into a tube, stuffed it up
your nose, and lit the other end, you wouldn't know if it's fake any
more than you do now.

>
>We would also understand his citizenship papers. You know, the one
>where he gave up his Indonesian citizenship and became an American.
>
>Oh, and then there's the matter of his social security card/number...
>...and...

Orly Taitz can help you out there. Or Jerome Corsi. They ought to be
right up your alley.


>
>No matter. The federal government is null and void. The state governments
>will now act.

They already are. They say you're nuts. Taitz will be lucky if she
stays out of jail. She's already had to pay a court $20,000 for
presenting fraudulent "evidence."

--
Ed Huntress

Ed Huntress

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On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 21:01:10 -0700, "james g. keegan jr."
<jgkeegan@gmaîl.com> wrote:

>On 6/18/2012 7:35 PM, Jeff M wrote:
>> On 6/18/2012 9:04 PM, james g. keegan jr. wrote:
>>> On 6/18/2012 6:31 PM, Jeff M wrote:
>>>> On 6/18/2012 7:23 PM, james g. keegan jr. wrote:
>>>> [snip]
>>>>> You don't know what you're talking about. You got /Bakke/ all wrong.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's fine with me.
>>>
>>> So, you really ought to shut your yap about it.
>>
>> It's the stupid things you say,
>
>You fucked up /Bakke/. Just admit it and move on.


Oh, for God's sake, Keegan. You said there was a quota. Bakke
specifically disallows quotas. It allows race to be considered as ONE
factor in admission, for diversity's sake. It may have influenced
Obama's admission, but who, except a rightard, would care?

The point is how he graduated from Harvard Law, not how he was
admitted to Columbia. And he graduated very high in his class.
Obviously, he was up to it and had the necessary skills to excel. Is
there any other issue of consequence here?

You may not like that but the fact is that there can be no "quota" and
there couldn't when Obama was admitted to Columbia. When Feynman was
refused admission, there were quotas. It was a bad time to be Jewish,
exceedingly smart, and ambitious.

--
Ed Huntress

Jeff M

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Jun 19, 2012, 10:53:06 AM6/19/12
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On 6/19/2012 7:28 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:
[big snip]
> Are you Plumper's alter ego? Is he nym-shifting here?

In a word, yes. The worst of rightards here have obviously taken to
anonymous remailers and nym-shifting in a big way, to keep spewing their
garbage, and to avoid the kill-filters of saner, smarter people.

Ed Huntress

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Jun 19, 2012, 11:09:20 AM6/19/12
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On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 09:53:06 -0500, Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.Org>
wrote:
That's actually a relief. I'd hate to think there were that many angry
loons running around loose.

However, Carol is much too pleasant to be Plumper, except maybe on a
cocktail of Prilosec and thorazine.

--
Ed Huntress

Hawke

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Jun 19, 2012, 3:02:40 PM6/19/12
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On 6/18/2012 12:59 PM, Frank wrote:
> On 6/18/2012 9:27 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:
>> On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 09:09:32 -0400, Frank
>> <frankperi...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/18/2012 8:54 AM, de...@dudu.org wrote:
>>>> On 18 Jun 2012 08:44:28 -0000, "Something Smells"
>>>> <did-h...@barackobama.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Feynman, of Feynman diagrams fame, wasn't accepted at Columbia -
>>>>> so he went to MIT, then Princeton.
>>>>>
>>>>> Obama is far dumber than Feynman.
>>>>>
>>>>> How exactly did Barack Obama get into Columbia?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> He didn't you fucking moron. He went to Harvard. And graduated magna
>>>> cum laude (with high honors).
>>>>
>>> Oh, goody. Can you show us his grades? ;)
>>
>> He graduated from Columbia and then went to Harvard Law. Magna cum
>> laude requires a minimum grade point average at nearly every college
>> and university, or a class rank. At Harvard Law, magna cum laude is
>> reserved for the top 10% of the graduating class.
>>
>> If you have any trouble interpreting that, you won't understand it
>> anyway, so you wouldn't understand the grades, either.
>>
>
> Then, please explain to us, why he steadfastly refuses to disclose his
> records.


If the guy graduated in the top 10% of his class, and we're talking
Harvard here, one of the hardest schools you can find, that means his
grades were in the top 10% of one of the best schools. If you don't
understand what that means I'll explain it to you. You have to have
mainly all A's and a few B's for you to be in the top 10%. So why is it
that it matters so much to you what grade in which class Obama got his
A's or B's? This was many years ago and is not relevant to anything. So
why do you want to know? What would you do with that information?
Nothing. Me, I want to know what Donald Trump's grades were. Can we get
him to release them just because I want to know?

Hawke


Hawke

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Jun 19, 2012, 3:06:49 PM6/19/12
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On 6/18/2012 1:05 PM, Carol Kinsey Goman wrote:
> On 6/18/2012 12:59 PM, Frank wrote:
>> On 6/18/2012 9:27 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:
>>> On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 09:09:32 -0400, Frank
>>> <frankperi...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/18/2012 8:54 AM, de...@dudu.org wrote:
>>>>> On 18 Jun 2012 08:44:28 -0000, "Something Smells"
>>>>> <did-h...@barackobama.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Feynman, of Feynman diagrams fame, wasn't accepted at Columbia -
>>>>>> so he went to MIT, then Princeton.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Obama is far dumber than Feynman.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How exactly did Barack Obama get into Columbia?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> He didn't you fucking moron. He went to Harvard. And graduated magna
>>>>> cum laude (with high honors).
>>>>>
>>>> Oh, goody. Can you show us his grades? ;)
>>>
>>> He graduated from Columbia and then went to Harvard Law. Magna cum
>>> laude requires a minimum grade point average at nearly every college
>>> and university, or a class rank. At Harvard Law, magna cum laude is
>>> reserved for the top 10% of the graduating class.
>>>
>>> If you have any trouble interpreting that, you won't understand it
>>> anyway, so you wouldn't understand the grades, either.
>>>
>>
>> Then, please explain to us, why he steadfastly refuses to disclose his
>> records.
>
> What's even more bizarre is that he doesn't actually and verbally
> refuse, he just doesn't address the issue at all. My guess is that his
> grades at Columbia were probably decent, but it's the high school grades
> and SAT/ACT scores on which his admission to Columbia was based - or
> *not* based, heh heh heh - that would prove embarrassing.



What if he got lousy grades in high school? And what if they let him in
unfairly or just because he was black? Didn't he prove that he was up to
the job? He did graduate from Columbia and was Magna Cum Laude at
Harvard and head of the Law Review there. I'd say them's pretty damn
good credentials, so no matter how he got there he proved himself,
didn't he? Now compare that to George W. Bush who got into college only
because of his father and when there got mediocre grades at best. He
didn't belong there as his grades indicated. But Obama obviously
deserved to be where he went to school.

Hawke

Hawke

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Jun 19, 2012, 3:11:57 PM6/19/12
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On 6/18/2012 5:26 PM, George Plimpton wrote:

>>>>>>> My guess is that his
>>>>>>> grades at Columbia were probably decent, but it's the high school
>>>>>>> grades
>>>>>>> and SAT/ACT scores on which his admission to Columbia was based - or
>>>>>>> *not* based, heh heh heh - that would prove embarrassing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, if it is, that's a good reason to tell you to stuff it, isn't it?
>>>>>
>>>>> But why won't he come out and explicitly tell us to stuff it?
>>>>
>>>> Why should he? Do you talk to cockroaches?
>>>>
>>>
>>> No, but we talk to assholes like you ;)
>>
>> Well, then, what does it say about you, Frank? I mean, if you think
>> I'm an asshole, what the hell are you doing answering my posts? <g>
>
> It's entertaining to remind you of what an asshole we know you are.


Nobody knows more about being a giant asshole than you do. So for once
you're talking about something you actually know about.

Hawke

Ed Huntress

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Jun 19, 2012, 3:12:14 PM6/19/12
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Oh, yes they would. They'd try to mine it for any hint that they could
use against him.

Their only interest is in kicking and screaming at Obama because he
won't give them something that will undermine him. Not that they would
change their vote no matter what it says.

That's why they can go commiserate in a Roach Motel somewhere. That
is, after they piss up a rope. d8-)

> Me, I want to know what Donald Trump's grades were. Can we get
>him to release them just because I want to know?

Geez, don't encourage Trump to say anything about anything.

--
Ed Huntress

Carol Kinsey Goman

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Jun 19, 2012, 4:23:55 PM6/19/12
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Yeah, "what if"? You and all the other dopey leftists who are in thrall
to the man have made it seem he's a genius - a MacArthur Fellow manqué,
an unrecognized Nobel laureate. If he's an affirmative action admit, as
he almost certainly is, that undercuts you dopes.

George Plimpton

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Hawke

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Jun 20, 2012, 8:29:26 PM6/20/12
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No it doesn't it proves us right. Someone that was a failure in high
school that goes on to an Ivy League school and does extremely well
there obviously was underachieving in high school and had a lot of
potential that was not being used. The fact is we know how well Obama
did in the Ivy League. We know how well he's done every step of the way
to becoming president of the U.S.

We know how smart and how capable Obama is from what he has done. What
he did earlier in his life is really pretty damn meaningless at this
point. He's proven he's a far better president than that clown Bush.
He's got the country moving in the right direction. There's nothing more
to say. We got rid of the horrible president and now we have a good one.

Hawke

Hawke

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Jun 20, 2012, 8:33:03 PM6/20/12
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Yeah, I know. Trump is just like Wayne Newton. They used to say that
when Newton was performing he never knew when to stop, and if just one
person in the audience clapped he'd keep singing more songs. Trump is
the same way about tooting his own horn. You don't want to do anything
to encourage him, do you?

Hawke

Jeff M

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Jun 20, 2012, 9:54:07 PM6/20/12
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I know what you mean. Do to the choatic circumstances of my youth, I
was a high school dropout with only a GED at 15, working as a machine
operator in an electronics plant. But now I have several degrees,
including a doctorate with honors. One's life ought not be
predetermined by one's childhood or parentage.

Edward A. Falk

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Jun 20, 2012, 10:40:16 PM6/20/12
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In article <jro1bp$1op$1...@dont-email.me>,
Frank <frankperi...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>Then, please explain to us, why he steadfastly refuses to disclose his
>records.

Theory 1: He realizes that trying to appease conspiracy theorists
and other purveyors of derp is a waste of time and serves only
give them credibility.

Theory 2: He hopes to keep them raving about stupid shit, thus
causing them to expose themselves as the crazies they are to the
rest of the populace.

Theory 3: He's waiting for the derp frenzy to peak, then release
his transcripts, thus generating the maximum humiliation. This
seems to have been his strategy with the second birth certificate
and it worked quite well.

Out of curiosity, what's *your* theory?

--
-Ed Falk, fa...@despams.r.us.com
http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/

The Right View

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Jun 20, 2012, 11:10:51 PM6/20/12
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"Something Smells" wrote:
> Feynman, of Feynman diagrams fame, wasn't accepted at Columbia -
> so he went to MIT, then Princeton.
>
> Obama is far dumber than Feynman.
>
> How exactly did Barack Obama get into Columbia?


If Ph.D. Richard Phillips Feynman was too stupid to make the cut,
nobody made the cut.

That's why nobody goes there.

Besides, Ph.D. Richard Phillips Feynman was born in Kenya, just like
Obama.

K. Morse

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Jun 21, 2012, 1:29:18 AM6/21/12
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On 20 Jun 2012, The Right View <adrast...@live.com> posted some
news:fcc90ff1-05e1-4403...@fr28g2000vbb.googlegroups.com:

> "Something Smells" wrote:
>> Feynman, of Feynman diagrams fame, wasn't accepted at Columbia -
>> so he went to MIT, then Princeton.
>>
>> Obama is far dumber than Feynman.
>>
>> How exactly did Barack Obama get into Columbia?
>
>
> If Ph.D. Richard Phillips Feynman was too stupid to make the cut,
> nobody made the cut.

Damn˛!

> That's why nobody goes there.
>
> Besides, Ph.D. Richard Phillips Feynman was born in Kenya, just like
> Obama.

Damnł!

Hawke

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Jun 21, 2012, 8:26:33 PM6/21/12
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I learned the same lesson in life. I was not a high school drop out but
I did exceedingly poorly. I was near the bottom of my class when I
graduated. It took me a long time but I did eventually straighten myself
out and got a couple degrees myself, which only goes to show that you
shouldn't count out the slow starters.

Hawke

Hawke

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Jun 21, 2012, 8:28:22 PM6/21/12
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I think he's just ignoring them because to him they are just a bunch of
piss ants.

Hawke

George Plimpton

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Jun 21, 2012, 8:52:28 PM6/21/12
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You got an AA degree from a community college, which doesn't really
count as a degree - it's not required for admission to /any/ bachelor's
program anywhere - and you got a worthless bachelor's degree in a
worthless field from a shitty backwater university. You never did
anything with your bachelor's degree; all you do is brag about it.

George Plimpton

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Jun 21, 2012, 8:58:47 PM6/21/12
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On 6/20/2012 6:54 PM, Jeff M wrote:
A law degree, you asshole, is *not* commonly called a "doctorate". JD
has 'doctor' in the name, but it is not commonly called a doctorate, and
in *NO WAY* is the equivalent of a Ph.D degree in a difficult field.
Someone with a Ph.D in a legitimate field - that is, excluding anything
with "gender" or "ethnic" or "studies" in the program name - does
research that is expected to advance the state of knowledge in the
field. Someone obtaining a JD does *not* do that same thing in the
field of law; you memorize what the current state is.


> One's life ought not be
> predetermined by one's childhood or parentage.
>
>
>> The fact is we know how well Obama
>> did in the Ivy League. We know how well he's done every step of the way
>> to becoming president of the U.S.
>>
>> We know how smart and how capable Obama is from what he has done.

We don't know *anything* about Obama being smart and capable, you
fuckwit. Other than collecting some degrees, Obama never did anything
meaningful. He was a "community organizer", which is a fancy term for
professional rabblerouser and is in fact a *DISQUALIFYING* activity for
being president. He taught law - whatever law he had learned, *NOT* any
of his original scholarship - at a law school as a lecturer; he was not
a legal scholar. He served several undistinguished, unproductive terms
in the Illinois legislature where he left virtually *NO* record of
legislative achievement, and 2/3 of a term in the US Senate, which time
was equally undistinguished.

He's not a dummy, but he is *far* from the scintillating intellect you
fucking fawning dopes make him out to be.

George Plimpton

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Jun 21, 2012, 9:01:49 PM6/21/12
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No. And that's precisely why he won't disclose his records.


>
> We know how smart and how capable Obama is from

Shut the fuck up. We don't know *anything* about Obama being smart and
capable, you fuckwit. Other than collecting some degrees, Obama never
did anything meaningful. He was a "community organizer", which is a
fancy term for professional rabblerouser - a shit-stirrer - and is in

Hawke

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Jun 22, 2012, 5:59:54 PM6/22/12
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On 6/21/2012 5:52 PM, George Plimpton wrote:

>>>> No it doesn't it proves us right. Someone that was a failure in high
>>>> school that goes on to an Ivy League school and does extremely well
>>>> there obviously was underachieving in high school and had a lot of
>>>> potential that was not being used.
>>>
>>> I know what you mean. Do to the choatic circumstances of my youth, I
>>> was a high school dropout with only a GED at 15, working as a machine
>>> operator in an electronics plant. But now I have several degrees,
>>> including a doctorate with honors. One's life ought not be
>>> predetermined by one's childhood or parentage.
>>
>>
>> I learned the same lesson in life. I was not a high school drop out but
>> I did exceedingly poorly. I was near the bottom of my class when I
>> graduated. It took me a long time but I did eventually straighten myself
>> out and got a couple degrees myself, which only goes to show that you
>> shouldn't count out the slow starters.
>
> You got an AA degree from a community college, which doesn't really
> count as a degree - it's not required for admission to /any/ bachelor's
> program anywhere - and you got a worthless bachelor's degree in a
> worthless field from a shitty backwater university. You never did
> anything with your bachelor's degree; all you do is brag about it.


You're ignorant and a blabbermouth. You continuously talk as if you have
all kinds of information you are not privy to. You don't know jack about
my education. Yet you pretend you do. Just know that I am better
educated than you are, meaning I have more degrees than you do.

Hawke

Hawke

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Jun 22, 2012, 6:09:19 PM6/22/12
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The problem is that you take a guy like Obama that has excelled at every
level and you try to denigrate everything he has done. Graduated from
Columbia, your response, well that's nothing, that doesn't indicate
anything about anyone's intellect, anyone could do that. Graduated from
Harvard Law with honors. You: that's nothing any ordinary person
couldn't do. Then he gets elected to the U.S. senate. You: well, that's
no big deal either, that's not a very big accomplishment for a black man
in America, any average man could do that. Then Obama becomes president
of the U.S. Your response: not a great feat, anyone of average
intelligence could do that. Obama showed no great mental prowess there
either.

Even when you take all those things together you don't see that it takes
someone very special to do all that. To you all you see is someone very
ordinary. I have to tell you, no normal person sees that. What they see
is someone that has done extraordinary things and accomplished things
that virtually no one else has. So I'll leave it at that. There is your
view that Obama is nothing special and has not proven to be much above
average and there is the view he's far superior to just about everyone
else. I think your view rates as just plain stupid.

Hawke

George Plimpton

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Jun 22, 2012, 6:31:19 PM6/22/12
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No, you're not. You're much *worse* educated than I am, in large part
because you didn't obtain a bachelor degree until an advanced age, and
you coasted through a shitty school to get it. I earned my bachelor
degree in five years after high school (one year off to live overseas),
and then I attended graduate school.

You never learned to think, and in fact you never *have* thought. All
you do is emote, based on shitty extreme left-wing values you somehow
absorbed - *wrongheaded* left-wing values.

George Plimpton

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Jun 22, 2012, 6:33:24 PM6/22/12
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Obama is hardly a model of excellence. In fact, the only things that
conceivable could be taken as evidence of excellence are his graduation
from Harvard law school, and his presidency of the law review while
there. *Nothing* else he has done in his life bespeaks excellence, most
particularly his legislative "career", which was among the most
undistinguished in recent memory.

Hawke

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Jun 22, 2012, 8:11:59 PM6/22/12
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I did more than "attend" graduate school.


Hawke

George Plimpton

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Jun 22, 2012, 8:16:06 PM6/22/12
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On 6/22/2012 5:11 PM, Hawwwke-Ptooey showed his ignorance again:
> On 6/22/2012 3:31 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
>> On 6/22/2012 2:59 PM, Hawwwke-Ptooey showed his ignorance again:
You didn't do *anything* in graduate school, you douche - you were never
even *admitted* to graduate school.

Hawke

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Jun 22, 2012, 8:16:22 PM6/22/12
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Ha, ha, ha, you really are something. You have a guy that is a
successful author, an attorney, a former U.S. senator, and now the
president of the U.S. He started with nothing, and you don't think he's
an example of excellence. Who do you think is? You! Compare yourself to
him so you can see how a failure looks compared to a success. It's
ridiculously easy to tell the difference.

Hawke

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