My dog died last night...damnit
Gunner Asch
with me..is shown on my various webpages, started roaming. Yesterday I
caught him a block away. He knew he had screwed up, so he ran for home
as soon as he saw me looking for him.
So I put him on a chain and went to bed
This morning I went out to bring him in, and he had managed to
strangle himself by trying to get between the fence and a support
structure, hooking the chain snap on the fence fabric, something no
other dog had ever tried to do
He evidently strangled to death slowly sometime in the night. The
choker collar so tight, he couldnt make a sound. In an almost sitting
upright position. It couldnt have been an easy death. And I was 20
feet away, and on the other side of a screen door, apparently when it
happened.
He was a year and 3 months old, damned good company, and a great
friend. Im gonna miss the fuck out of him. He was just starting to
get all of his brain cells working together and turning into a great
dog.
Its going to be really really strange for a while, not having him
beside me all the time.
His cat, and his sister are laying next to him as I type this.
This is gonna be a rough time for a while
Gunner
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who in times of great moral crisis maintain their neutrality",
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John R. Carroll
That's tough Mark and I'm so sorry.
Oppie was a trip.
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Michael A. Terrell
Gunner Asch wrote:
>
> Opie, my Aussie, my daily dog...went to work with me, went everywhere
> with me..is shown on my various webpages, started roaming. Yesterday I
> caught him a block away. He knew he had screwed up, so he ran for home
> as soon as he saw me looking for him.
>
> So I put him on a chain and went to bed
>
> This morning I went out to bring him in, and he had managed to
> strangle himself by trying to get between the fence and a support
> structure, hooking the chain snap on the fence fabric, something no
> other dog had ever tried to do
>
> He evidently strangled to death slowly sometime in the night. The
> choker collar so tight, he couldnt make a sound. In an almost sitting
> upright position. It couldnt have been an easy death. And I was 20
> feet away, and on the other side of a screen door, apparently when it
> happened.
>
> He was a year and 3 months old, damned good company, and a great
> friend. Im gonna miss the fuck out of him. He was just starting to
> get all of his brain cells working together and turning into a great
> dog.
>
> Its going to be really really strange for a while, not having him
> beside me all the time.
>
> His cat, and his sister are laying next to him as I type this.
>
> This is gonna be a rough time for a while
My condolences, Mark. :(
I can tell from the way you talk about them that you love all your
'critters'. :)
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<gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>Opie, my Aussie, my daily dog...went to work with me, went everywhere
>with me..is shown on my various webpages, started roaming. Yesterday I
>caught him a block away. He knew he had screwed up, so he ran for home
>as soon as he saw me looking for him.
>
Sorry to hear the sad news Gunner. Back in 1986 our long time shepard
mix "Spicer" died on Wednesday, our daughter went back to college on
Friday and we took our son to college for his first year on Saturday.
My wife was an emotional wreck and I wan't far behind. We still miss
Spicer dearly all these years later.
Errol Groff
RB
My deepest condolences, Mark.
Our pets are like children. It's hard when we lose one.
Rex
Gerry
My condolences as well. I have had to personally put down two of my
pets and it was like losing a family member.
Jim Chandler
Gunner:
I am really sorry to hear this. I know how close one can become to a
good dog. It took me several years to get over my Ranger. I had him
for a little over 16 years and I still catch myself calling my present
dog by his name, some eight years later. My condolences. Don't beat
yourself up too bad over it though. It was one of those things where
you thing you're doing the right thing to protect the dog but aome fluke
turns it into tragedy. There must have been a dog in heat somewhere in
the neighborhood. That's the only time Ranger would get out. May Opie
rest in peace.
Jim
SteveB
sometimes the circumstances and the Monday morning quarterback review.
All dogs go to heaven. I'll bet he's staking out a good spot and waiting
for you in a cool shady place.
Steve
Spehro Pefhany
wrote:
Yup. Just like that old _Twilight Zone_ episode.
Best regards,
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I'm sorry to hear this, but am also hoping you mis-spoke and you
didn't have him on a chain connected to a choke collar.
Dave
Stuart & Kathryn Fields
"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
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Gunner: Sorry as hell to hear this. Both Kathy and I remember Opie from
your sojurn doing up our lathe. Best thing that you can do is get another
dog. They add so much to life as partners as well as examples.
Stu and Kathy Fields
Brian Lawson
Sorry for your loss.
R.I.P. Opie.
Take care.
Brian Lawson
Gerald Miller
Had a very similar misfortune about fifty years ago, and about ten
years before that, a most favoured puppy mill/hunting dog got out
Christmas eve and she and the house dog went hunting. Next morning the
house dog made it home and we backtracked him to where she had frozen
to death under a spruce tree, he had stayed with her till he could do
no more. She died hunting which was her life, but a bad Christmas for
her people.
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada
Gerry
Any chance of doing the same with Cliff?
Steve W.
Well that sucks...
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JR North
Growing up, my cat, Pookie, was getting long in the tooth, and finding
it harder and harder to jump up on my Mom's bed, which was about 24"
high.
One day,coming home from school, I found Pookie, dead. She had tried
to make the jump, got her front claws hooked just at the radius of the
spread where it transitioned from vertical to horizontal. There, she
ran out of inertia, fell back with a whiplash and snapped her neck. I
found her hanging from her front claws, her head tipped back almost to
touching her back. Her mouth was gaping open and her eyes wide,
staring lifelessly. A horrific sight, right out of a Stephan King
novel.
JR
Dweller in the cellar
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:28:39 -0700, Gunner Asch
<gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
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wrote:
GeoLane at PTD dot NET
My condolences. I can appreciate how you feel. I had a similar
episode with our lab almost 20 years ago. I had made a pulley and a
long cable run for him so he could be more active than being in a pen
or on a chain, and was proud of my work. Turned the pulley on the
lathe and welded the frame for it. On the hottest day of the summer,
the pulley jammed at the far end of the run, away from the water
bucket and his house in the shade of the tree at the other end of the
run. We arrived home to find him still alive. He had enough strength
to lift his head a little and recognize that we were with him. I ran
and got a bucket of water and poured it on him when he couldn't drink,
hoping to at least cool him down. He died in my wife's arms.
RWL
Stupendous Man
I had a lab/Shep cross hang himself on the fence, bad thing and he was all
stretched out and rigored so i had to dig a huge hole. Felt guilty for a
while, but the dummy would have got run over in short order. He was wearing
a normal collar but since he was jumping the fence I had him chained to a
bowling ball, found him hanging clean off the ground. Chain was too long I
guess.
Next time, remember a choker collar is for training only. I cant get my boss
to use a regular collar on his lab, who runs fast thru a lot of barbed wire
fences on the ranch.
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Michael Koblic
"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
news:d75ra4tdnvda4nhtb...@4ax.com...
> with me..is shown on my various webpages, started roaming. Yesterday I
> caught him a block away. He knew he had screwed up, so he ran for home
> as soon as he saw me looking for him.
>
> So I put him on a chain and went to bed
>
> This morning I went out to bring him in, and he had managed to
> strangle himself by trying to get between the fence and a support
> structure, hooking the chain snap on the fence fabric, something no
> other dog had ever tried to do
The only time I pretty much lost it was when I had to have my dog put down
due to cancer. I was glad that the family were away at the time.
I know how you feel and have my synpathy.
--
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Campbell River, BC
Pete Keillor
<gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
My condolences, Gunner.
Pete
kfvo...@gmail.com
My condolences.
Karl
Jon
I had a 40lb chocolate lab/dobie mix Maxthedog that rode with me every day
for seven years, his passing was ruf.
I took a day off and got lost on a mountain bike.
Therapy, yanno
I have a 20lb beagle/bisengi now.
I use a plain nylon collar for everyday, and only put the choker on when
walking on a lead.
"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
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RAMł
> This is gonna be a rough time for a while
I can only offer my most sincere condolences, Gunner.
Wes
>Opie, my Aussie, my daily dog...went to work with me, went everywhere
>with me..is shown on my various webpages, started roaming. Yesterday I
>caught him a block away. He knew he had screwed up, so he ran for home
>as soon as he saw me looking for him.
>
I feel for you but man, you never use a choker on a dog you are not in immediate control
of.
Friend of mine had two Dobies strangle each other that way.
Wasn't just the dog that screwed up.
Wes
John R. Carroll
I'm sure he knows that now.
What's your point <squinting>
Michael A. Terrell
Spehro Pefhany wrote:
>
> On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:46:10 -0800, "SteveB" <toquerville@zionvistas>
> wrote:
>
> >It's always sad to lose someone you love. About the only thing worse is
> >sometimes the circumstances and the Monday morning quarterback review.
> >
> >All dogs go to heaven. I'll bet he's staking out a good spot and waiting
> >for you in a cool shady place.
> >
> >Steve
> >
>
> Yup. Just like that old _Twilight Zone_ episode.
I'll bet that Hawkie & Cliff would both go through the first gate.
Jman
> Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
> >Opie, my Aussie, my daily dog...went to work with me, went everywhere
> >with me..is shown on my various webpages, started roaming. Yesterday I
> >caught him a block away. He knew he had screwed up, so he ran for home
> >as soon as he saw me looking for him.
>
> I feel for you but man, you never use a choker on a dog you are not in immediate control
> of.
Yeah.... Pretty sure he realizes that, people make mistakes.
> Friend of mine had two Dobies strangle each other that way.
> Wasn't just the dog that screwed up.
Cheeerist,
Once again.... I THINK he GETS it. He wouldn't have mentioned the WAY
it happened if HE didn't GET IT.
> Wes
Gunner,
Don't know you but real sorry to hear about your dog.....
/FC....
Joe Pfeiffer
>
> Friend of mine had two Dobies strangle each other that way.
>
> Wasn't just the dog that screwed up.
The thing about accidents is that all of them involve a mistake
someplace, and almost all of them involve something you personally
could have done differently (yes, I'm speaking of a personal
experience I don't intend to elaborate on). It's really inappropriate
to bring that up at a time like this.
Wes
>I'm sure he knows that now.
>What's your point <squinting>
John,
I've seen way too many people use choker chains on dogs that are tied up. In retrospect,
Gunner likely posted this as a warning to others but I didn't take it that way when I
first read it.
I read the first few replys in the thread and no one mentioned chokers are a no-no so I
posted my reply.
Wes
vk3...@hotmail.com
> Opie, my Aussie, my daily dog...went to work with me,
>
> beside me all the time.
>
>
>
>
Mate, feel for ya - its the price we pay for loving someone, and dogs
have shorter lives than people so we go through it time and
again...and keep on doing it, cause a dog is, well, special.
get another pup, straight away, the other dog will grieve, so let her
educate a new pup, take her mind off it, teach the new pup the "way of
Gunners home..."
Now, cats - well, theres no shortages of cats, so I don't miss em when
they get killed - the real bastard ones manage to crawl home after
being injured and land you with a huge vets bill before they kark
it.....
No dog would do that.
ANdrew VK3BFA.
John R. Carroll
I posted this to another group Wes.
Some posters know Mark and knew his dog and others don't/didn't.
I happen to be one of the former.
Gunner spends most of his time on the road, away from home for days or even
weeks at a time. His crash pad is more than a little run down and all in all
it's a lonely and hard scrabble lifestyle. When he said Oppie was his "every
day" dog he didn't mean the dog he fed and walked daily. They were
inseperable from the minute they left Taft until their return and it would
be just the two of them pounding the asphalt here in LA trying to make a
buck and keep life together.
Life is tough and here in LA it isn't just tough. It's frequently mean.
Oppie took the edge off of that for Gunner as the two of them went about the
daily chore of scratching out a living.
Two goofy bastards out in the world on an adventure is a lot more fun than a
guy in his truck scratching for a buck.
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass, it's about learning to dance
in the rain.
Oppie was sort of Gunners dance partner.
Wes
Thank you for the further explanation. I think you know I like Gunner, we are rather
sympatico on many views.
I sure has hell didn't wish to hurt a hurting man. I just blurted out what was on my
mind. I'm rather fond of dogs myself.
Sorry Gunner, if you are reading this thread. I do know how you feel. One day, I walked
my buddy out to the rural mailbox w/o leashing her. Dogs like to run, Mandy bolted on me
and ran at a pickup. Well you know the outcome of that one.
Just an old man and his granddaughter in the truck. The man got out stricken for hitting
and mortally wounding my dog. I'm in tears as I told the man it was my fault, not yours,
please get your kid out of here.
Years later after I married, my wife had the same experience with Bandit, a neglected dog
we took in. I wish I had told her about Mandy. She loved Bandit and she is a cat person.
Wes
Jim Chandler
John, that is one of the best posts I have read. You expressed my
sentiments regarding dogs in a way I would have never thought of. Thank
you. I'm sure Gunner appreciates it too.
Jim
Gunner Asch
<jcarroll@ubu,machiningsolution.com> wrote:
That was pretty nice John.
Much obliged.
Gunner
"Confiscating wealth from those who have earned it, inherited it,
or got lucky is never going to help 'the poor.' Poverty isn't
caused by some people having more money than others, just as obesity
isn't caused by McDonald's serving super-sized orders of French fries
Poverty, like obesity, is caused by the life choices that dictate
results." - John Tucci,
Stupendous Man
>
> Much obliged.
Yup.
I have two black labs, one is 15 years old and has a few problems, probably
won't have to suffer another winter. I have had him longer than my wife. The
other is 7 months old. I take them to work with me to the 1-man machine shop
on a 15 acre ranch where a 2 year old black lab lives. It's is quite
entertaining. They go everywhere with me except when i ride one of the
motorcycles, but i will be setting the sidecar back onto the Goldwing next
month. The kid is 3 and she is ready to ride, the dogs always were.
Where are you Gunner? I have a friend in a large vet's office that finds
homes for unwanted pups and dogs all the time.
Gunner Asch
wrote:
Near Bakersfield, California
Rob Fraser
> Gunner Asch wrote:
>>
>> Opie, my Aussie, my daily dog...went to work with me, went everywhere
>> with me..is shown on my various webpages, started roaming. Yesterday I
>> caught him a block away. He knew he had screwed up, so he ran for home
>> as soon as he saw me looking for him.
>>
>> So I put him on a chain and went to bed
>>
>> This morning I went out to bring him in, and he had managed to
>> strangle himself by trying to get between the fence and a support
>> structure, hooking the chain snap on the fence fabric, something no
>> other dog had ever tried to do
>>
>> He evidently strangled to death slowly sometime in the night. The
>> choker collar so tight, he couldnt make a sound. In an almost sitting
>> upright position. It couldnt have been an easy death. And I was 20
>> feet away, and on the other side of a screen door, apparently when it
>> happened.
>>
>> He was a year and 3 months old, damned good company, and a great
>> friend. Im gonna miss the fuck out of him. He was just starting to
>> get all of his brain cells working together and turning into a great
>> dog.
>>
>> Its going to be really really strange for a while, not having him
>> beside me all the time.
>>
>> His cat, and his sister are laying next to him as I type this.
>>
>> This is gonna be a rough time for a while
>
Gunner,
My deepest condolences in your loss buddy. It is like losing a child.
No words will heal, but help and you are in all our thoughts.
Live well friend,
Rob
Fraser Competition Engines
Chicago, IL.
Stupendous Man
>>homes for unwanted pups and dogs all the time.
>
> Near Bakersfield, California
I am east of Stockton, its about a 4 hour trip. If and when you are ready
for the next dog, let me know what you are looking for.
--
Stupendous Man,
Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
--Hathaway Pines, California
Gerald Miller
wrote:
>> That was pretty nice John.
Ever seen a beagle sitting on the tank of a Harley, looking out
through the windscreen, thoroughly enjoying the ride? I don't know
whether the owner let it ride there on the highway but it sure seemed
to enjoy riding around Guelph Ontario.
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada
cavelamb himself
Gunner, would it help if me and the boys here went and tormented Hawkie
and Cliffie for ya until you are feeling better?
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Curt Welch
> Opie, my Aussie, my daily dog...
That sucks. Sorry to hear it. I've had many dogs in my life, and it
always takes a long time to get over the loss of them no matter how it
happens.
I've heard similar stories twice before in my life.
Back when I was a kid, one of the neighbors had two basset hounds that
constantly played together. One day, the lower jaw of one dog got stuck in
the collar of the second dog. When they found them, the second dog had
choked to death.
The other story was a friend in college who had just gotten a new puppy.
They left it in the kitchen with the floor covered in newspapers because it
was still making a mess at night. They left a choke collar on the dog, and
he manged to get the ring hooked on one of the handles of the cabinets and
choked to death by the time they found him in the morning.
We try to take care of them, and do what we think is right, but still, shit
happens. These events always suck the most because they leave you thinking
that if only you had done something different it wouldn't have happened.
But all we can ever do is what we think is right, and then do our best to
move on when these things happen.
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Gunner Asch
wrote:
> >>Where are you Gunner? I have a friend in a large vet's office that finds
>>>homes for unwanted pups and dogs all the time.
>>
>> Near Bakersfield, California
>
>I am east of Stockton, its about a 4 hour trip. If and when you are ready
>for the next dog, let me know what you are looking for.
Oh..I thought you were looking for to adopt out some of mine.
I have a litter of 5 at the moment, there were 7, and I adopted out
one to Victorville, have kept a carbon copy of Opie, but only 7 weeks
old...we are already bonding pretty well. Woody is his name.
I had hoped to not have to break in another companion for another
12-15 yrs....
Sigh
Damn I miss him
Gunner Asch
Only if I can supply the barbed wire and the field phone.....
Michael A. Terrell
Gunner Asch wrote:
>
> cavelamb himself wrote:
> >
> >Gunner, would it help if me and the boys here went and tormented Hawkie
> >and Cliffie for ya until you are feeling better?
>
> Only if I can supply the barbed wire and the field phone.....
No 'Concertina wire'? What a ripoff! ;-)
cavelamb himself
>>
>>
>>Gunner, would it help if me and the boys here went and tormented Hawkie
>>and Cliffie for ya until you are feeling better?
>
>
>
> Only if I can supply the barbed wire and the field phone.....
>
>
Deal.
But we can't wire up their testicles - because they haven't
descended yet...
Gunner Asch
<mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>Gunner Asch wrote:
>>
>> cavelamb himself wrote:
>> >
>> >Gunner, would it help if me and the boys here went and tormented Hawkie
>> >and Cliffie for ya until you are feeling better?
>>
>> Only if I can supply the barbed wire and the field phone.....
>
>
> No 'Concertina wire'? What a ripoff! ;-)
Every try to dangle someone from the ceiling with concertina? Hard to
make the wrist loops and it tends to make them bounce like a Slinky
everytime you crank up the field phone.
Trust me...barbed wire works best of the two.
Gunner
Gerald Miller
<gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 18:23:43 -0700, "Stupendous Man" <sp...@trap.com>
>wrote:
>
>> >>Where are you Gunner? I have a friend in a large vet's office that finds
>>>>homes for unwanted pups and dogs all the time.
>>>
>>> Near Bakersfield, California
>>
>>I am east of Stockton, its about a 4 hour trip. If and when you are ready
>>for the next dog, let me know what you are looking for.
>
>
>Oh..I thought you were looking for to adopt out some of mine.
>
>I have a litter of 5 at the moment, there were 7, and I adopted out
>one to Victorville, have kept a carbon copy of Opie, but only 7 weeks
>old...we are already bonding pretty well. Woody is his name.
>
>I had hoped to not have to break in another companion for another
>12-15 yrs....
>
>Sigh
>
>Damn I miss him
>
>
>Gunner
>
Hang on to Woody!
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada
Michael A. Terrell
Gunner Asch wrote:
>
> On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 04:51:01 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
> <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >Gunner Asch wrote:
> >>
> >> cavelamb himself wrote:
> >> >
> >> >Gunner, would it help if me and the boys here went and tormented Hawkie
> >> >and Cliffie for ya until you are feeling better?
> >>
> >> Only if I can supply the barbed wire and the field phone.....
> >
> >
> > No 'Concertina wire'? What a ripoff! ;-)
>
> Every try to dangle someone from the ceiling with concertina? Hard to
> make the wrist loops and it tends to make them bounce like a Slinky
> everytime you crank up the field phone.
>
> Trust me...barbed wire works best of the two.
Make a frame of 2*4s and cover it with concertina wire to make a
large cheese grater, that also works well on trolls. Then brush up on
your troll tossing. ;-)
Michael A. Terrell
No problem! What do you think those tent stakes that look like
oversized nails were really made for?
Gunner Asch
I am...and he is going to be a superb companion...but he isnt Opie.
Slightly different personalities, and he hasnt been with me for over a
year.
In fact..I held Opies cord so his momma could chew it in half when he
was born.
Having his sister and Woody around really does help with the grieving
process, but there is still plenty of grieving going on.
Hell..everytime I take his sister out in the back yard..she goes
looking for him in all his favorite places. Though I think she is
getting the idea he isnt gonna be there anymore, or his memory is
fading in her.
Shrug
Gunner
>Gerry :-)}
>London, Canada
Gunner Asch
All assholes and mouths..Im sure we can connect the two.
Like the old Presto Hotdogger...a probe in each end and turn on the
juice.
Stupendous Man
>
> I have a litter of 5 at the moment, there were 7, and I adopted out
> one to Victorville, have kept a carbon copy of Opie, but only 7 weeks
> old...we are already bonding pretty well. Woody is his name.
Nope, i have a full house here. 2 Labs, 3 cats, 2 wimmins and a 3 year old
girl.
There is a shortage of good people to give dogs someone to follow. Keep up
the good work.
Wes
>Ever seen a beagle sitting on the tank of a Harley, looking out
>through the windscreen, thoroughly enjoying the ride? I don't know
>whether the owner let it ride there on the highway but it sure seemed
>to enjoy riding around Guelph Ontario.
Years ago when I road the Michigander Rails to Trails tour, there was an elderly gent with
a beagle that would alternately run along side his bicycle or stand on the back of the
bicycle. When the dog got tired he would jump up on the back rack and rest when he was
tired. The rack had a plywood platform and carpet on it for good grip and a wide resting
place.
The last time I saw the duo, the gent had rigged a milk crate so the beagle didn't have to
stand on the back. They were both getting old.
Some memories you get when touring are priceless.
Wes
John R. Carroll
The train ride of choice when I was living in Michigan was either the "Snow
Train" or the ride to Toronto.
Wes
>> Some memories you get when touring are priceless.
>>
>
>The train ride of choice when I was living in Michigan was either the "Snow
>Train" or the ride to Toronto.
My ex replied to a email, since I wanted to be sure my memories were correct, that the
dog's name was Babe.
As to the Snow train, I still mean to do that one along with visiting Greenfield Village.
I hope you shared the ride with a significant other.
Wes