Re: OT legality of strobe lights on vehicles, plus rough ride
Christopher Thompson
"Ignoramus1729" <ignora...@NOSPAM.1729.invalid> wrote in message
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> I bought this pickup last fall, from a nearby municipality, it has
> only 35k miles on it despite baing 15 years old. They did not use it
> much.
>
> http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Dodge350.jpg
>
>
> 1) about yellow strobe lights. Is it legal for a regular person to
> have these lights (when they are turned off)? What about driving with
> them turned on? I would presume that it is illegal. I am in IL.
>
> 2) It is a 1 ton truck and it bounces a lot, like on speedbumps and
> such. Is it simply due to having strong suspension (it is a 1 ton
> model), or is something wrong with it?
>
> thanks
>
> i
>
check on the specifics with your local vol fire department. or even a full
time one. here in GA there is a form to fill out where you have to provide
your valid reason for wanting them. then it goes through an approval process
and you get a permit (if granted). keep in mind there are laws/rules that
apply and you would need to research those also.
--
-Chris
05 CTD
99 Durango
DT
ignora...@NOSPAM.1729.invalid says...
>
>I bought this pickup last fall, from a nearby municipality, it has
>only 35k miles on it despite baing 15 years old. They did not use it
>much.
>
>http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Dodge350.jpg
>
>
>1) about yellow strobe lights. Is it legal for a regular person to
>have these lights (when they are turned off)? What about driving with
>them turned on? I would presume that it is illegal. I am in IL.
I'm sure each state has its own regulations about lights. I'm in Ohio and you
can use yellow lights when you have an extended load, instead of having a red
flag on the end of the load. Also when you are plowing snow. My son is a
contractor and uses the light on his truck that way.
Dennis
TBone
need to check with them. A quick trip to the municipal building will answer
your questions. Since the municipality did not remove them, it is probably
not illegal for them to be there but I can't say what the usage rules (if
any) might apply.
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"Ignoramus1729" <ignora...@NOSPAM.1729.invalid> wrote in message
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> I bought this pickup last fall, from a nearby municipality, it has
> only 35k miles on it despite baing 15 years old. They did not use it
> much.
>
> http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Dodge350.jpg
>
>
> 1) about yellow strobe lights. Is it legal for a regular person to
> have these lights (when they are turned off)? What about driving with
> them turned on? I would presume that it is illegal. I am in IL.
>
John Husvar
"Christopher Thompson" <kf4...@alltel.net> wrote:
I've always thought anti-collision strobes, appropriately shielded to
avoid blinding other drivers, would be a good idea.
A lot of school buses here in Ohio have them mounted on top of the roof
at the rear. I notice the flashing and slow down long before I actually
see the buses, especially in reduced visibility.
Aircraft have them and they have a lot more room to maneuver than auto
drivers.
Anybody have any thoughts about these and/or the turn signals in the
middle of trailers on 18-wheelers? Personally, I don't see how it could
hurt.
Roy
"Ignoramus1729" <ignora...@NOSPAM.1729.invalid> wrote in message
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>I bought this pickup last fall, from a nearby municipality, it has
> only 35k miles on it despite baing 15 years old. They did not use it
> much.
>
> http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Dodge350.jpg
>
>
> 1) about yellow strobe lights. Is it legal for a regular person to
> have these lights (when they are turned off)? What about driving with
> them turned on? I would presume that it is illegal. I am in IL.
I have used strobes in plow trucks for years. Red and clear in the back and
clear in the front marker. But ONLY while plowing.
With them turned off? I suppose they could be any color as long as they are
not functioning or used off road or on private property. When you have them
turned on is when the problem of color comes up. Usually red or amber in the
back and amber to the front is okay. Take a look at what the tow trucks in
you area use, or call the DMV.
> 2) It is a 1 ton truck and it bounces a lot, like on speedbumps and
> such. Is it simply due to having strong suspension (it is a 1 ton
> model), or is something wrong with it?
Trucks tend to bounce going over speed bumps.
Roy
> thanks
>
> i
>
TBone
I don't know about bouncy.
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"Ignoramus1729" <ignora...@NOSPAM.1729.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 10:27:02 -0500, Roy <R...@home.net> wrote:
> >
> > "Ignoramus1729" <ignora...@NOSPAM.1729.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:xw3Ef.70765$c8....@fe15.usenetserver.com...
> >>I bought this pickup last fall, from a nearby municipality, it has
> >> only 35k miles on it despite baing 15 years old. They did not use it
> >> much.
> >>
> >> http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Dodge350.jpg
> >>
> >>
> >> 1) about yellow strobe lights. Is it legal for a regular person to
> >> have these lights (when they are turned off)? What about driving with
> >> them turned on? I would presume that it is illegal. I am in IL.
> >
> > I have used strobes in plow trucks for years. Red and clear in the
> > back and clear in the front marker. But ONLY while plowing. With
> > them turned off? I suppose they could be any color as long as they
> > are not functioning or used off road or on private property. When
> > you have them turned on is when the problem of color comes
> > up. Usually red or amber in the back and amber to the front is
> > okay. Take a look at what the tow trucks in you area use, or call
> > the DMV.
>
> Thanks, Roy, DT, TBone, Christopher, John. I will check with my DMV. I
> suppose that as long as I do not turn them on, Ishould not have a
> problem.
>
> >> 2) It is a 1 ton truck and it bounces a lot, like on speedbumps and
> >> such. Is it simply due to having strong suspension (it is a 1 ton
> >> model), or is something wrong with it?
> >
> > Trucks tend to bounce going over speed bumps.
>
> I have a half ton pickup (also a dodge), but the one ton truck bounces
> insanely. Isuppose it is just due to strong springs.
>
> i
>
>
>
Peter Grey
"Ignoramus1729" <ignora...@NOSPAM.1729.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 16:04:03 GMT, TBone <tbone...@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>> It may also have bad shocks. While the ride should be stiffer with a 1
>> ton,
>> I don't know about bouncy.
>
> It is outright bouncy. I think that you have a good point about
> shocks.
>
If you get one good hit when it hits the bump, it's the stiffer springs. If
it continues to oscillate after hitting the bump, then you have worn or
inappropriate shocks.
One ton pickup's springs are - by my buttometer - a lot stiffer than half
ton's.
Peter
Don Bruder
"TBone" <tbone...@nc.rr.com> wrote:
*IN GENERAL*, a yellow flasher is kosher anywhere, being considered
nothing more or less than a "Hey! Look out! There's a vehicle here that
you might not otherwise notice" warning. About half of the carriers at
the paper I substitute-carry for use yellow strobes/flashers. Some of
them are more or less permanent installations like a county truck or
similar, others use the "Kojak"-style bubble that mag-mounts to the roof
and plugs into the cig. lighter, then gets tossed in the back seat when
not on the route. I have yet to hear of any of them catching even the
slightest flack from anybody "official" about them, despite paper
carriers being "highly likely to be stopped" targets around here
(northern CA) because they and drunks tend to be about the only source
of boredom relief available for the cops between roughly 2 and 6 AM.
Red, blue, or white flashers, on the other hand, are (or are nearly)
universally reserved for cops, firetrucks, and ambulances, and putting
one on pretty much any other vehicle (never mind being stupid enough to
actually light it up in traffic...) is usually a quick way to get a free
overnight stay (at least) in the local greybar hotel. Green seems to be
in a "grey area", legally - Some places don't care. Other places will
jump on you with both feet.
Check with the powers that be *WHERE YOU ARE* for the answer that's
right in your case.
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Bruce L. Bergman
<ignora...@NOSPAM.1729.invalid> wrote:
>I bought this pickup last fall, from a nearby municipality, it has
>only 35k miles on it despite baing 15 years old. They did not use it
>much.
>
>http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Dodge350.jpg
>
>1) about yellow strobe lights. Is it legal for a regular person to
>have these lights (when they are turned off)? What about driving with
>them turned on? I would presume that it is illegal. I am in IL.
Red or Blue lights would be a problem, because they are almost
universally reserved for police and fire use only - even possessing
the red or blue domes for those rotary beacons could be turned into an
'impersonating an officer' beef if they wanted to stretch it.
Amber lights are no problem if used properly - when the vehicle is
used in emergency, construction or maintenance work, and they often
stop in the middle of the road.
Go poke around at http://www.dot.state.il.us/ and see what the rules
are. I'd say if you are worried get two flour sacks and cover up the
beacons for now, or you can sew up two nice light covers in heavy
canvas or Naugahyde with a draw-string bottom for permanent use.
I would have found it fast if they had the Illinois state site
organized halfway decently... One nice thing about home, it's all
easy to find online and cross referenced forty-seven ways.
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/vc/vc_index_l.htm
Here's our law, look under "Lights and Lighting" for all the
categories that are specifically allowed to have amber beacons -
Disaster service workers, and a whole batch of various construction
and maintenance vehicles.
But this is an important distinction - note that nowhere in the
California codes is there anything that says you CAN'T have them if
you don't fall under one of the permissive categories, just lots of
categories that explicitly allow them. I can't see yours being that
different, but you never know.
It all boils down to having a legitimate reason for /using/ them
while on a public street or highway, like stopping behind an accident
and providing assistance to the people involved.
IMHO I'd patch the paint but leave the orange stripes on the truck
so the cop can see it's and ex-State vehicle, and the legality of the
lights will never be an issue - unless you're dealing with a total
asshat like Sheriff Buford T. Justice. And if the officer is out to
hassle you and is looking for any chickens**t reason to give you a
ticket, let it be the amber warning lights. That's an easy one to get
a judge to dismiss.
>2) It is a 1 ton truck and it bounces a lot, like on speedbumps and
>such. Is it simply due to having strong suspension (it is a 1 ton
>model), or is something wrong with it?
If you want it to ride really nice, put a ton of dead weight in the
bed. It'll smooth it right out... Yup, heavy rating, stiff springs.
Probably why it never got driven - it was issued to a department
that never carried anything heavy (like the architects or engineers)
and they never drove it because it rides like a buckboard when empty.
Given a choice, they'd grab the keys to the sedan.
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Christopher Thompson
"Bruce L. Bergman" <blPYTHO...@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 14:24:29 GMT, Ignoramus1729
> <ignora...@NOSPAM.1729.invalid> wrote:
>
> >I bought this pickup last fall, from a nearby municipality, it has
> >only 35k miles on it despite baing 15 years old. They did not use it
> >much.
> >
> >http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Dodge350.jpg
> >
> >1) about yellow strobe lights. Is it legal for a regular person to
> >have these lights (when they are turned off)? What about driving with
> >them turned on? I would presume that it is illegal. I am in IL.
>
> Red or Blue lights would be a problem, because they are almost
> universally reserved for police and fire use only - even possessing
> the red or blue domes for those rotary beacons could be turned into an
> 'impersonating an officer' beef if they wanted to stretch it.
>
> Amber lights are no problem if used properly - when the vehicle is
> used in emergency, construction or maintenance work, and they often
> stop in the middle of the road.
>
> Go poke around at http://www.dot.state.il.us/ and see what the rules
> are. I'd say if you are worried get two flour sacks and cover up the
> beacons for now, or you can sew up two nice light covers in heavy
> canvas or Naugahyde with a draw-string bottom for permanent use.
fyi:
these covers are also avail commercially at www.GALLS.com
Peter Grey
"Ignoramus1729" <ignora...@NOSPAM.1729.invalid> wrote in message
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>> If you get one good hit when it hits the bump, it's the stiffer springs.
>> If
>> it continues to oscillate after hitting the bump, then you have worn or
>> inappropriate shocks.
>
> I get one very good hit when the rear hits the bump.
>
That's the nature of the beast, then. You can try - within reason - lower
tire pressures. That'll help some.
Peter
Harold and Susan Vordos
"Ignoramus1729" <ignora...@NOSPAM.1729.invalid> wrote in message
> On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 10:27:02 -0500, Roy <R...@home.net> wrote:
> >
> > news:xw3Ef.70765$c8....@fe15.usenetserver.com...
> >>I bought this pickup last fall, from a nearby municipality, it has
> >> only 35k miles on it despite baing 15 years old. They did not use it
> >> much.
> >>
> >> http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Dodge350.jpg
> >>
> >>
> >> 1) about yellow strobe lights. Is it legal for a regular person to
> >> have these lights (when they are turned off)? What about driving with
> >> them turned on? I would presume that it is illegal. I am in IL.
> >
> > I have used strobes in plow trucks for years. Red and clear in the
> > back and clear in the front marker. But ONLY while plowing. With
> > them turned off? I suppose they could be any color as long as they
> > are not functioning or used off road or on private property. When
> > you have them turned on is when the problem of color comes
> > up. Usually red or amber in the back and amber to the front is
> > okay. Take a look at what the tow trucks in you area use, or call
> > the DMV.
>
> suppose that as long as I do not turn them on, Ishould not have a
> problem.
>
> >> such. Is it simply due to having strong suspension (it is a 1 ton
> >> model), or is something wrong with it?
> >
> > Trucks tend to bounce going over speed bumps.
>
> insanely. Isuppose it is just due to strong springs.
>
> i
Yep! I've owned several pickups---ranging from half to one ton. The one ton
trucks are sprung heavily to handle the load. You'll be pleasantly
surprised to find it rides quite nicely when you have it well loaded.
Harold
Harold and Susan Vordos
"Peter Grey" <pg...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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I'd say your "buttometer" is working well. :-)
Harold
Steve W.
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Depends a LOT on your locality. In NY strobes (or lights that flash in a
strobe pattern) are illegal regardless of color if they are used on any
vehicle not authorized as an emergency or hazard vehicle. Not sure how
they are going to rule on LED style lights yet since so far nobody has
asked.
For instance I am a fire police member. My vehicle can run one blue
light for use while going to the station or to a call. Once on scene I
shut down the blue light and have amber and red alternating flashers
that get turned on to warn people about the incident ahead. The ambers
are mounted in the front and both side windows the reds are in the rear
and use the factory tail lights and a set of halogen lights mounted in
the rear window.
1. No light, other than a white light, and no revolving, rotating,
flashing, oscillating or constantly moving white light shall be affixed
to, or displayed on any vehicle except as prescribed herein.
2. Red lights and certain white lights. One or more red or combination
red and white lights, or one white light which must be a revolving,
rotating, flashing, oscillating or constantly moving light, may be
affixed to an authorized emergency vehicle, and such lights may be
displayed on an authorized emergency vehicle when such vehicle is
engaged in an emergency operation, and upon a fire vehicle while
returning from an alarm of fire or other emergency.
3. Amber lights.
a. One or more amber lights may be affixed to a hazard vehicle,
and such a light or lights which display an amber light visible to all
approaching traffic under normal atmospheric conditions from a distance
of five hundred feet from such vehicle shall be displayed on a hazard
vehicle when such vehicle is engaged in a hazardous operation. Such
light or lights shall not be required to be displayed during daylight
hours provided at least two red flags visible from a distance of five
hundred feet are placed both in or on the front of, and to or on the
rear of the vehicle and two such flags are placed to each side of the
vehicle open to traffic. Such lights or flags need not be displayed on
the vehicle when the vehicle is operating, or parked, within a
barricaded work area and said lights or flags are displayed on the
barricade. The provisions of this subdivision shall not prohibit the
temporary affixing and display of an amber light to be used as a warning
on a disabled motor vehicle or on a motor vehicle while it is stopped on
a highway while engaged in an operation which would restrict, impede or
interfere with the normal flow of traffic.
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Peter Grey
"Don Bruder" <dak...@sonic.net> wrote in message
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> slightest flack from anybody "official" about them, despite paper
> carriers being "highly likely to be stopped" targets around here
> (northern CA) because they and drunks tend to be about the only source
> of boredom relief available for the cops between roughly 2 and 6 AM.
>
> Red, blue, or white flashers, on the other hand, are (or are nearly)
> universally reserved for cops, firetrucks, and ambulances, and putting
> one on pretty much any other vehicle (never mind being stupid enough to
> actually light it up in traffic...) is usually a quick way to get a free
> overnight stay (at least) in the local greybar hotel.
A couple of years ago, I was stuck in traffic on southbound 101 going up the
hill out of Tiburon before dropping down through the tunnel and over the
Golden Gate bridge. Traffic was completely clotted and no one was going
faster than 3 MPH. I was in the left lane (not that it was doing me any
good) when I saw a car with a red light coming up behind me. I, and all the
other folks in the lane, merged into the next lane (not easy in the backup)
to let this guy through. Hmmm... An older Chevy Malibu with a red light
inside the car above his rear view mirror. Never seen a car or light set up
like that used by the cops.
I got on my cell phone and let the Highway Patrol know of my suspicions. I
stayed on the phone at the request of the dispatcher, gave her the license
plate number of the car, and told her which lane the car was in. As this
guy approached the toll plaza he turned the light off, but there were two
CHP officers standing at the toll booth. One of them stopped the guy, got
in the car with him and directed him to the parking lot, where other cops
were waiting. The other found my car, leaned in the window and thanked me.
The other cops in the parking lot hauled the driver out of the car and
cuffed him. That was the last thing I saw.
Who knows what else he had done, but it struck me that the cops take
gratuitous use of a red light pretty seriously.
Peter
Don Bruder
"Peter Grey" <pg...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Who knows what else he had done, but it struck me that the cops take
> gratuitous use of a red light pretty seriously.
Ayup... If you ain't a cop, ambulance, or fire truck, and show red
light(s) to the front, you're effectively driving around with the
equivalent of about a 40-by-40 foot billboard strapped to your roof that
reads "C'mon, cop! I dare ya! Wassamatta? Too busy giving your K9
partner a BJ?" - And you're likely to be dealt with accordingly...
Dave Hinz
> In article <qM8Ef.144$UF1...@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
> "Peter Grey" <pg...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Who knows what else he had done, but it struck me that the cops take
>> gratuitous use of a red light pretty seriously.
>
> Ayup... If you ain't a cop, ambulance, or fire truck, and show red
> light(s) to the front, you're effectively driving around with the
> equivalent of about a 40-by-40 foot billboard strapped to your roof that
> reads "C'mon, cop! I dare ya! Wassamatta? Too busy giving your K9
> partner a BJ?" - And you're likely to be dealt with accordingly...
Eh...depends. In Wisconsin, if you've got the lights and siren, and
if they're both _on_, you _are_ an emergency vehicle, by definition.
Those same lights in Illinois might be a problem, on or off. It varies
by state at least. Galls.com might have a guide to all that crap maybe.
Christopher Thompson
"Dave Hinz" <Dave...@spamcop.net> wrote in message
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the question then becomes are you an authorzed emergency vehicle in valid
emergency operation. i dont care where you are you cant run like your going
to a call if your going after pizza, even if your in the pumper.
thus the reason for the emergency permit required in the state of Georgia.
Peter Grey
"Harold and Susan Vordos" <vor...@tds.net> wrote in message
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>>
>> One ton pickup's springs are - by my buttometer - a lot stiffer than half
>> ton's.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>
> I'd say your "buttometer" is working well. :-)
>
> Harold
That's the nicest thing anyone's said to me in weeks...
Peter
Dave Hinz
>
> "Dave Hinz" <Dave...@spamcop.net> wrote in message
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>> Eh...depends. In Wisconsin, if you've got the lights and siren, and
>> if they're both _on_, you _are_ an emergency vehicle, by definition.
> the question then becomes are you an authorzed emergency vehicle in valid
> emergency operation.
Well, of course. Misuse of that sort of thing is well past "bad idea",
well into "you get what you deserve".
> i dont care where you are you cant run like your going
> to a call if your going after pizza, even if your in the pumper.
Yup. New guys sometimes need to be reminded of that, and the
"reasonable and prudent" clause as well. It's neither reasonable nor
prudent, for example, to go 70 through town past the grade school,
lights & siren or no; POV, or truck, or ambo.
After the first time or two they either mellow, or they don't get to
drive emergency vehicles.
> thus the reason for the emergency permit required in the state of Georgia.
Here we need a letter from the chief, if a POV is being used with
lights/siren.
clareatsnyder.on.ca
wrote:
In ontario it must be a BLUE flasher for snow - and ONLY for snow.
>Dennis
Christopher Thompson
"Dave Hinz" <Dave...@spamcop.net> wrote in message
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as well did we inorder to get the permit from the state. without that permit
if the PD wanted to they could give you a ticket or worse weither the chief
ok'd your use of lights/siren or not.
>
Christopher Thompson
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<clare at snyder.on.ca> wrote in message
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Larry Green
> blue does not indicate PD there?
>
In Ontario PD use red and white (with amber on some of the newer bubble
gum machines) as do ambulance. Fire use red and white and sometimes have
the addition of green flashers (green indicates part time firemen en
route to a call but they must adhere to all traffic regulations
including speed and traffic lights.
Blue is *only* used for snow removal vehicles (plows, backhoes, graders
etc.) during a snow storm as blue light is easier to see in the snow.
When spring comes around all the blue lenses are changed out for amber
ones for summer use.
--
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Anthony
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>
> By my buttometer, as well. I guess that if a one ton load was in the
> bed, the shock would be a lot milder. (not that I want to try it)
>
> i
>
>
Toss 4 bags of concrete mix in the bed, it will ride a whole lot better.
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vehicles have them. red and or blue are prohibited - restricted to
authorised emergency vehicles.
you need to check with police in your area as rules vary widely.
Eide
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clareatsnyder.on.ca
<kf4...@alltel.net> wrote:
>blue does not indicate PD there?
Nope - coppers up here have red and white - just like fire and
ambulance. Voluteer firefighters have green. Yellow or yellow and
white are used on tow trucks, wide loads, school bus roofs, and
service vehicles of any sort parked in the roadway.
Blue is snow removal only, and ONLY while removong snow. Don't be
running down the road between jobs with the blade up and the flasher
on!
Anthony
$n8.2...@fe35.usenetserver.com:
>
> Four bags is not that much, I am surprised that you suggest that so
> little extra weight would help. Not that I know anything.
That's 320 lbs. Just enough to get the springs off the 'full extended'
position. Placing them nearer to the tailgate will be more beneficial.
Bruce L. Bergman
<ignora...@NOSPAM.1729.invalid> wrote:
>Regarding patching the paint, you are touching an interesting
>question. What is the greyish stuff beneath the white paint, is it
>primer?
Probably gray primer under white paint, but check the truck's body
tag for the original color - It might have been built as a silver
truck, then the state changed their mind and wanted the fleet all
white and they had it repainted.
GTE did that - they got some really fast and cheap white paint jobs
done. And it didn't help that some of the original silver paint jobs
were rather tentatively stuck to the bodies in the first place...
There were more than a few trucks that needed a full stripping down to
primer and a proper second paint job done.
>Is there some cheap solution like applying some crap remover, and then
>spray painting large areas?
If it is primer and it's clean (no rust) you can leave the existing
paint alone. You just need to hit the bad spots with fine sandpaper
(600 or finer Wet-Or-Dry paper used wet) to feather the edges of the
bare spot smooth and get some tooth for the new paint to grab, use the
proper paint thinner to strip any wax oil or grease, mask it off, and
paint it. Several light coats, build it up.
Any good auto parts store with an auto paint department can mix
matching paint a quart at a time, and they'll have the right
thinner/reducer and all the other supplies you need. Drive the truck
there so they can see it, and they can even adjust the color to match
any existing fading so you don't have to repaint the whole thing...
Too bad it's a Dodge. Rustoleum V2196838 (4TH68) Fleet White in the
piss can matches "GM Fleet White", and it's great for masking the
inevitable bed dings. It might be close enough to match on a Dodge.
And remember: It's A Truck - It's for Working, not for Looks. So
what if the paint looks like crap if you study it up close. If it
looks good when you back up 5 feet and it's sealed so it can't rust,
that's all that really matters. ;-P
Wiz
does not identify your vehicle as an "emergency vehicle".
Were these lights red or blue I believe you would be OK as long as you
didn't ever turn them on. Once you did you would be subject to citation.
Wiz
"Ignoramus1729" <ignora...@NOSPAM.1729.invalid> wrote in message
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>I bought this pickup last fall, from a nearby municipality, it has
> only 35k miles on it despite baing 15 years old. They did not use it
> much.
>
> http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Dodge350.jpg
>
>
> 1) about yellow strobe lights. Is it legal for a regular person to
> have these lights (when they are turned off)? What about driving with
> them turned on? I would presume that it is illegal. I am in IL.
>
Hp
"officer" must be in the vehicle if the light can be seen whether on/off.
Red for fire,ambulances,,Purple for funeral vehicles,yellow for caution.
Physicians may also have red if responding to hospital on emergencies.
"Wiz" <bogus...@home.com> wrote in message
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Rachel Easson
>> <ignora...@NOSPAM.1729.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> I bought this pickup last fall, from a nearby municipality, it has
>>> only 35k miles on it despite baing 15 years old. They did not use it
>>> much.
>>>
>>> http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Dodge350.jpg
>>>
> On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 16:37:42 GMT, Bruce L Bergman
> <blPYTHO...@earthlink.invalid> replied:
>> IMHO I'd patch the paint but leave the orange stripes on the truck
>> so the cop can see it's and ex-State vehicle, and the legality of the
>> lights will never be an issue - unless you're dealing with a total
>> asshat like Sheriff Buford T. Justice. And if the officer is out to
>> hassle you and is looking for any chickens**t reason to give you a
>> ticket, let it be the amber warning lights. That's an easy one to get
>> a judge to dismiss.
>
On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 18:53:42 GMT, Ignoramus1729
<ignora...@NOSPAM.1729.invalid> replied:
> I agree. I am not terribly worried.
>
> Regarding patching the paint, you are touching an interesting
> question. What is the greyish stuff beneath the white paint, is it
> primer?
>
> Is there some cheap solution like applying some crap remover, and then
> spray painting large areas?
>
> Its bed is full of dried paint. I think that they used it to get to a
> location, deliver paint and whatnot, and then it sat there all day
> long waiting for road painters to finish.
>
If the bed is really lumpy with the dried paint, see about renting a heat
stripper. If it is not so bad, get a used bedlinerfor $30-50 -- the paint
underneath will stop the bed from ever rusting! about the touchups, try
lightly sanding where the grey shows through, and spray a couple of light
coats of white CHROMIUM primer, and where you see the metal -- tailgate and
spots on rear quarter -- you should sand off the rust and use quite a few
coats (comes in spray bomb -- can get it in stock usually in black and
white, or order the right colour from most Napa type places) This type of
primer sticks well and helps prevent rust. After that you don't really need
to paint because this type of primer comes as a gloss.
btw, I love your truck -- great shape for a 86-89. Let me know if you come
across another one with a slant six (225), 360, 400 or 440
rach
NapalmHeart
In Michigan blue flashing lights are police only. Red for police and fire.
Yellow for anything else.
Ken
Rachel Easson
> So, if I go to Napa, I should ask for a "white chromium primer",
> right?
rach replied:
call ahead -- yes, in the spray bomb -- you won't need much -- if they
have it in flat or gloss get gloss -- most napa places have black and
white chromium primer on hand, but it isn't body season in IL yet is it
? so they might not have much stock. If they don't know what you mean,
I'll get you the part number.
rach
>
>> btw, I love your truck -- great shape for a 86-89. Let me know if you come
>> across another one with a slant six (225), 360, 400 or 440
>
> Ny 4 year old loves it too, it rides like a boat (until it hits a
> speedbump). The truck is a '90, by the way. It has only 35 thousand
> miles on it.
You're right. Oops! <grn> I'll bet he loves it!
My own 1999 dodge ram truck
>
> http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/packing/clausing/dscf0027.jpg
It is very pretty. I am partial however to older trucks because the new
ones are over my head
>
> I had for the last 7 years, already has twice more miles.
>
> I will eventually sell the '90 truck, but so far I drive it wherever I
> can. I bought it at an auction.
>
> Here's a video of the Dodge 350:
>
> http://www.algebra.com/~ichudov/spool/Dodge350.avi
ooh! fancy -- we have filmage -- very impressive.<smile> btw, nothing
wrong with those shocks
>
> Thanks for the primer suggestions.
>
no problem