Little nipper busted for DUI
Lib Loo
Sen. Kerry's Daughter Alexandra Arrested On Suspicion of DUI
Updated: Thursday, 19 Nov 2009, 3:52 PM EST
Published : Thursday, 19 Nov 2009, 11:40 AM EST
From MyFox National Reports
(MYFOX NATIONAL) - Sen. John Kerry's daughter, Alexandra Forbes Kerry, was
arrested in Los Angeles Thursday on suspicion of driving under the
influence, police told Fox News.
The Los Angeles Police Department's Norma Eisenman said Forbes Kerry was
released on $5,000 bail but did not release any other information.
TMZ.com cited police sources as saying Forbes Kerry, a 36-year-old film
producer and director, was pulled over in Hollywood at 12:40 a.m. (PST)
after allegedly violating a traffic law.
A formal blood alcohol test showed a reading of .06, TMZ.com said. The legal
limit is .08 in California, but drivers under the limit can still be
prosecuted for dangerous driving.
While Forbes Kerry was busted by police, another woman earlier this month
busted herself by calling 911 to report her own drunk driving . Mary Strey
of Granton, Wis., cited and charged with drunken driving and operating with
a blood-alcohol level of 0.1 percent or more.
RBnDFW
Bill Noble
"Lib Loo" <heez...@crazymother.kom> wrote in message
news:he5c6b$uqd$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> http://www.pollsb.com/photos/o/69260-alexandra_kerry_john_kerry_s_nbsp_see_through_daughter.jpg
>
> Sen. Kerry's Daughter Alexandra Arrested On Suspicion of DUI
> Updated: Thursday, 19 Nov 2009, 3:52 PM EST
> Published : Thursday, 19 Nov 2009, 11:40 AM EST
>
why is this anyone's business? the republicans whined about outing ms
palin's laundry, this is a private family matter, not anything of national
import.
Curly Surmudgeon
wrote:
Because Republicans are hypocrites.
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RBnDFW
It's a news item, it's not a partisan post.
But since you ask, I seem to recall some similar treatment of GWB's
daughters. The difference is Kerry's daughter is an adult.
Bill Noble
"RBnDFW" <burkh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:he6jfo$1he$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
balderdash - anyone with a modicum of morals objected when Bush's daughters
got dragged into the spotlight, we objected to Chelsey's media focus - if
the parents are not abusing the children, and the children are not taking
actions that subject the parents to blackmail, then this is nobody's
business except the family and the law. It is not suitable material for
national news, for political blogs, for newsgroups, or for gossip. It is
anti-family values (for those who profess such things), and it doesn't help
anyone. Allow this lady to be treated like a normal person who has been
picked up by the law - if she gets special treatment because of intervention
by her father, that is an issue - but her arrest is not your business, not
mine, and not appropriate for discussion here.
Dan
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:33:38 -0800, "Bill Noble" <nob...@nowhere.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> "Lib Loo" <heez...@crazymother.kom> wrote in message
>> news:he5c6b$uqd$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> http://www.pollsb.com/photos/o/69260-
> alexandra_kerry_john_kerry_s_nbsp_see_through_daughter.jpg
>>> Sen. Kerry's Daughter Alexandra Arrested On Suspicion of DUI Updated:
>>> Thursday, 19 Nov 2009, 3:52 PM EST Published : Thursday, 19 Nov 2009,
>>> 11:40 AM EST
>>>
>>>
>> why is this anyone's business? the republicans whined about outing ms
>> palin's laundry, this is a private family matter, not anything of
>> national import.
>
> Because Republicans are hypocrites.
>
Note that she is an adult...
Dan
Curly Surmudgeon
> Bill Noble wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Lib Loo" <heez...@crazymother.kom> wrote in message
>> news:he5c6b$uqd$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> http://www.pollsb.com/photos/o/69260-
alexandra_kerry_john_kerry_s_nbsp_see_through_daughter.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> Sen. Kerry's Daughter Alexandra Arrested On Suspicion of DUI Updated:
>>> Thursday, 19 Nov 2009, 3:52 PM EST Published : Thursday, 19 Nov 2009,
>>> 11:40 AM EST
>>>
>>>
>> why is this anyone's business? the republicans whined about outing ms
>> palin's laundry, this is a private family matter, not anything of
>> national import.
>
> It's a news item, it's not a partisan post.
By that measure so was Sarah Palin letting her daughter have a live-in
fuckbuddy in the house.
> But since you ask, I seem to recall some similar treatment of GWB's
> daughters. The difference is Kerry's daughter is an adult.
Family is off limits. I've broken that cardinal rule once in the past
and refuse to sin again. Only when the public figure brings their family
into the arena does family become fair game.
Libby Loo has a long history of attacking family. Trolls understand that
family is precious and often goads people into uncivilized responses.
Just as Loo stalks one poster her speaking about "two mommies" and wants
to fuck the eyesocket of my mother. Now he's violating the privacy of a
private citizen to enrage people.
Use your Bozo filter.
Curly Surmudgeon
Noted. And dismissed.
Gunner Asch
<nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>> It's a news item, it's not a partisan post.
>>
>> But since you ask, I seem to recall some similar treatment of GWB's
>> daughters. The difference is Kerry's daughter is an adult.
>
>balderdash - anyone with a modicum of morals objected when Bush's daughters
>got dragged into the spotlight,
Are you claiming that 95% of all Liberals dont have a modicum of
morals?
Evidently you are if you make that claim.
Gunner
"Aren't cats Libertarian? They just want to be left alone.
I think our dog is a Democrat, as he is always looking for a handout"
Unknown Usnet Poster
Heh, heh, I'm pretty sure my dog is a liberal - he has no balls.
Keyton
Hawke
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:33:38 -0800, "Bill Noble" <nob...@nowhere.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> "Lib Loo" <heez...@crazymother.kom> wrote in message
>> news:he5c6b$uqd$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> http://www.pollsb.com/photos/o/69260-
> alexandra_kerry_john_kerry_s_nbsp_see_through_daughter.jpg
>>> Sen. Kerry's Daughter Alexandra Arrested On Suspicion of DUI Updated:
>>> Thursday, 19 Nov 2009, 3:52 PM EST Published : Thursday, 19 Nov 2009,
>>> 11:40 AM EST
>>>
>>>
>> why is this anyone's business? the republicans whined about outing ms
>> palin's laundry, this is a private family matter, not anything of
>> national import.
>
> Because Republicans are hypocrites.
>
And they take every opportunity to criticize anyone not part of their
group. All the while whining and complaining whenever they get criticism
when they do something wrong. It's part of being conservative. That
along with the lying and the fear of any kind of change. Those are three
hallmarks of conservatism; lying, fear, and hypocrisy. No wonder we
can't stand them.
Hawke
Hawke
I seem to recall seeing her at one time or another. If I remember
correctly she's actually pretty good looking. Lucky for her, she looks
nothing like her father.
Hawke
HH&C
> "Lib Loo" <heezb...@crazymother.kom> wrote in message
>
> news:he5c6b$uqd$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> >http://www.pollsb.com/photos/o/69260-alexandra_kerry_john_kerry_s_nbs...
>
> > Sen. Kerry's Daughter Alexandra Arrested On Suspicion of DUI
> > Updated: Thursday, 19 Nov 2009, 3:52 PM EST
> > Published : Thursday, 19 Nov 2009, 11:40 AM EST
>
> why is this anyone's business? the republicans whined about outing ms
> palin's laundry, this is a private family matter, not anything of national
> import.
A private family matter on public streets?
HH&C
wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:33:38 -0800, "Bill Noble" <nob...@nowhere.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> >news:he5c6b$uqd$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> >>http://www.pollsb.com/photos/o/69260-
>
> alexandra_kerry_john_kerry_s_nbsp_see_through_daughter.jpg
>
>
>
> >> Sen. Kerry's Daughter Alexandra Arrested On Suspicion of DUI Updated:
> >> Thursday, 19 Nov 2009, 3:52 PM EST Published : Thursday, 19 Nov 2009,
> >> 11:40 AM EST
>
> > why is this anyone's business? the republicans whined about outing ms
> > palin's laundry, this is a private family matter, not anything of
> > national import.
>
> Because Republicans are hypocrites.
Huh? It's a private family matter when a person drives drun on public
roads???
That's a new one. Seems kind of hypocritical, to mee.
Wonder what MADD would say about your claims?
> --
> Regards, Curly
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 2012 Run, Sarah, Run! 2012
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
HH&C
> Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
> > On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:33:38 -0800, "Bill Noble" <nob...@nowhere.invalid>
> > wrote:
>
> >>news:he5c6b$uqd$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> >>>http://www.pollsb.com/photos/o/69260-
> > alexandra_kerry_john_kerry_s_nbsp_see_through_daughter.jpg
> >>> Sen. Kerry's Daughter Alexandra Arrested On Suspicion of DUI Updated:
> >>> Thursday, 19 Nov 2009, 3:52 PM EST Published : Thursday, 19 Nov 2009,
> >>> 11:40 AM EST
>
> >> why is this anyone's business? the republicans whined about outing ms
> >> palin's laundry, this is a private family matter, not anything of
> >> national import.
>
> > Because Republicans are hypocrites.
>
> Note that she is an adult...
>
> Dan
Oh! I see. If you are an adult it is OK to drive drunk. It's all
perfectly clear now. Thank you so much, Dan.
HH&C
> Dan wrote:
> > Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
> >> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:33:38 -0800, "Bill Noble" <nob...@nowhere.invalid>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>>news:he5c6b$uqd$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> >>>>http://www.pollsb.com/photos/o/69260-
> >> alexandra_kerry_john_kerry_s_nbsp_see_through_daughter.jpg
> >>>> Sen. Kerry's Daughter Alexandra Arrested On Suspicion of DUI Updated:
> >>>> Thursday, 19 Nov 2009, 3:52 PM EST Published : Thursday, 19 Nov 2009,
> >>>> 11:40 AM EST
>
> >>> why is this anyone's business? the republicans whined about outing ms
> >>> palin's laundry, this is a private family matter, not anything of
> >>> national import.
>
> >> Because Republicans are hypocrites.
>
> > Note that she is an adult...
>
> > Dan
>
> I seem to recall seeing her at one time or another. If I remember
> correctly she's actually pretty good looking. Lucky for her, she looks
> nothing like her father.
>
> Hawke
Holy Cow!!! Hawke shows interest in a female! Whew! You had us
worried and Curly Scurmudgeon excited.
Bill Noble
"HH&C" <hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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negative - it is not ok to drive drunk, or intoxicated. the lady was
arrested - the law will handle it, it is not our business, it is not yours
to make political hay with either - no one condoned her actions, but a
goodly number of us condemned the prying into this - it is not a matter of
public concern
Stuart Wheaton
Of course, you are ignoring the fact that she was .02 under the limit,
so she wasn't actually DRUNK... But don't let those pesky facts get in
the way...
Gunner Asch
wrote:
She was legally "Impaired". Which under California law..is nearly as
bad as DUI. When I was a deputy..if we had an asshole on our
hands..they always got arrested for "impaired". Level of proof was much
lower and the fines and criminal charge was nearly on the level of DUI.
And if they had a fender bender or had hit someone....<VBG>...we could
put them up for at least 3 days if we chose to do so.
Bill Noble
"Stuart Wheaton" <sdwh...@fuse.net> wrote in message
news:eb6cb$4b07661d$d06602ac$11...@FUSE.NET...
the law in California says that if you are over .08, that is prima facie
evidence that you are under the influence - it does not say that you must be
over .08 to be under the influence. Whether the person in question was or
was not DUI is for the courts to decide, not this NG
Gunner Asch
<nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
According to the Left, being Kerry's brat..she was as sober as a judge.
According to everyone else..she was at the least..Impaired..at the
least.
http://patterico.com/2009/01/29/judge-arrested-for-dui-uses-racial-insults-on-police-officer/
HH&C
> "HH&C" <hot-ham-and-che...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
For a moment, lets pretend that you were driving drunk.
Is this a victimless crime where you are the only one who can be
hurt? No one else is in danger?
And once arrested, won't the local paper print your name and
infraction?
It certainly would appear to be a matter for public concern.
HH&C
Again and again and again, if the arresting officer sees "impairment"
it just doesn't matter. You are impaired, and if you have alcohol in
your blood or breath, you are drunk.
HH&C
> "Stuart Wheaton" <sdwhea...@fuse.net> wrote in message
Why can't she be judged in the court of public opinion like everyone
else?
Bill Noble
"HH&C" <hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> negative - it is not ok to drive drunk, or intoxicated. the lady was
>> arrested - the law will handle it, it is not our business, it is not
>> yours
>> to make political hay with either - no one condoned her actions, but a
>> goodly number of us condemned the prying into this - it is not a matter
>> of
>> public concern
>
> For a moment, lets pretend that you were driving drunk.
>
> Is this a victimless crime where you are the only one who can be
> hurt? No one else is in danger?
>
> And once arrested, won't the local paper print your name and
> infraction?
>
> It certainly would appear to be a matter for public concern.
let's answer these one at a time
1. driving drunk is not victimless. arresting drunk drivers, or any
intoxicated or impaired drivers is proper - I for one am happy that the lady
in question was stopped before she harmed someone
2. generally the local paper (at least in this city) will not print the
names of people arrested except in the most egregious cases - a serial
killer, someone who causes a massive accident - a regular drunk driver will
not get any local publicity - to list all the nightly arrests would take
many pages.
3. it is a matter of public concern that DUI persons are arrested, tried and
sentenced fairly under the law. Their names are not, in general, a public
concern, though they are not kept private by policy.
My point was that whether the lady in question was or was not doing what she
was arrested for is not a point for making political statements and endless
blather about it on this or any other NG. Children of the rich, famous, and
politically connected can cross the line like everyone else. This is not
newsworthy. If their parents use undue influence to affect the outcome,
then it is newsworthy and it reflects badly on the parents.
Bill Noble
"HH&C" <hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Because in this country, at least until the constitution is changed, persons
accused of a crime are judged by the court system, not by public opinion.
Do you disagree with that?
Gunner Asch
So when are you going to clue in your bosses in the DNC?
HH&C
> "HH&C" <hot-ham-and-che...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
And what did you think (feel) of Limbaugh's drug addiction?
HH&C
> "HH&C" <hot-ham-and-che...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
So you deny that the court of public opinion exists?
Winston Smith only needed to know how much rope to bring to GW Bush's
hanging for war crimes.
Later, he thought it might be OK to have a trial first.
HH&C
> "Lib Loo" <heezb...@crazymother.kom> wrote:
> >http://www.pollsb.com/photos/o/69260-alexandra_kerry_john_kerry_s_nbs...
> >Sen. Kerry's Daughter Alexandra Arrested On Suspicion of DUI
>
The debate is over? You're starting to sound like Algore again.
Bill Noble
Limbaugh is a public figure - that is different - try an equivalent
example - Jenna Bush for example - and my position is the same - nobody's
business.
Gunner Asch
And she will..will be convicted for an alcohol related crime. Perhaps
not DUI..but impaired driver etc etc
HH&C
I applaud you. You are consistant.
HH&C
> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:06:43 -0800 (PST), "HH&C"
>
> >On Nov 21, 9:57 pm, Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net> wrote:
> >> "Lib Loo" <heezb...@crazymother.kom> wrote:
> >> >http://www.pollsb.com/photos/o/69260-alexandra_kerry_john_kerry_s_nbs...
> >> >Sen. Kerry's Daughter Alexandra Arrested On Suspicion of DUI
>
> >> But testing showed she was under the limit and it's over.
>
> >The debate is over? You're starting to sound like Algore again.
>
> And she will..will be convicted for an alcohol related crime. Perhaps
> not DUI..but impaired driver etc etc
>
> Gunner
Dude. The debate is over. Winston Smith has spoken.
Gunner Asch
He always speaks..but little of value comes out of his mouth.
Lib Loo
"Hawke" <davesm...@digitalpath.net> wrote in message
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> Dan wrote:
>> Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
>>> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:33:38 -0800, "Bill Noble"
>>> <nob...@nowhere.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Lib Loo" <heez...@crazymother.kom> wrote in message
>>>> news:he5c6b$uqd$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>> http://www.pollsb.com/photos/o/69260-
>>> alexandra_kerry_john_kerry_s_nbsp_see_through_daughter.jpg
>>>>> Sen. Kerry's Daughter Alexandra Arrested On Suspicion of DUI Updated:
>>>>> Thursday, 19 Nov 2009, 3:52 PM EST Published : Thursday, 19 Nov 2009,
>>>>> 11:40 AM EST
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> why is this anyone's business? the republicans whined about outing ms
>>>> palin's laundry, this is a private family matter, not anything of
>>>> national import.
>>>
>>> Because Republicans are hypocrites.
>>>
>>
>> Note that she is an adult...
>>
>> Dan
>
>
> I seem to recall seeing her at one time or another. If I remember
> correctly she's actually pretty good looking. Lucky for her, she looks
> nothing like her father.
>
> Hawke
I posted a link to her picture in my OP. She doesn't look like her dad, but
I'm sure she will look like her mom. If she's a lib, I guarantee it. Take a
look-see...
http://writingcompany.blogs.com/this_isnt_writing_its_typ/images/teresa_heinz.jpg
Lib Loo
"HH&C" <hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Whether it's Ted Kennedy or Alexandra Kerry, DUI is wrong. One other thing
else that is consistent ...the cover-up. Why isn't her mug shot on
theSmokingGun.com?
http://satiricalpolitical.com/2009/11/19/alexandra-kerry-arrested-defense-dui/
Lib Loo
"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
news:rgqeg5tke3p4fnqmj...@4ax.com...
The fact that she was arrested by cops from liberal Los Angeles just goes to
show that she was in the wrong, no matter what her politics are or who her
daddy is. I'm glad her drunk driving was posted to the world since now we
can prepare ourselves. Whenever someone related to liberal politics from
Massachussetts gets behind the wheel, we should immediately get off the
sidewalks.
Lib Loo
"Deucalion" <som...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:k4teg55nhuomgcogc...@4ax.com...
> Gunner, you have already admitted not being a Deputy. Remember that
> resume you posted that not only left that claim out but it also left
> out your military service? Your moments of honesty give your life of
> lies away.
The Douchebag pipes in with his two cents.
Lib Loo
"Bill Noble" <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
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Nonsense. The liberals are already declaring her as not guilty. You libs
can't silence the truth. Not yet anyhow.
Lib Loo
"Deucalion" <som...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:95qfg5pldkhk8v9fa...@4ax.com...
> I'm sure that you, being a ex deputy knows that, since impaired was
> what she was charged with, it is the most that she will be convicted
> of.
>
>>
>>http://patterico.com/2009/01/29/judge-arrested-for-dui-uses-racial-insults-on-police-officer/
>
> Why are you posting a link that has absolutely nothing to do with the
> subject?
The Douchebag chimes in again. Luckily she wasn't driving on a bridge with a
passenger in her car.
Bill Noble
>>>
>>> Limbaugh is a public figure - that is different - try an equivalent
>>> example - Jenna Bush for example - and my position is the same -
>>> nobody's
>>> business.
>>
>> I applaud you. You are consistant.
>
> Whether it's Ted Kennedy or Alexandra Kerry, DUI is wrong. One other thing
> else that is consistent ...the cover-up. Why isn't her mug shot on
> theSmokingGun.com?
> http://satiricalpolitical.com/2009/11/19/alexandra-kerry-arrested-defense-dui/
how many arrests are there yearly for DUI?? right now there are about
15,000 alcohol related fatalities per year - presumably all those folks
should appear on this site?
http://www.stanforddaily.com/cgi-bin/?p=1034607 says that there were 31 DUI
incidents in 2008 - should all of these 31 appear?
this site
(http://www.adp.cahwnet.gov/FactSheets/Driving_Under-the-Influence_Statistics.pdf)
says
"More than 1.5 million drivers were arrested for
driving under-the-influence of alcohol or narcotics.
This is an arrest rate of 1 for every 121 licensed
drivers in the United States."
Feel free to post 1.5 million names and mug shots per year. But you have no
right to single out an individual to put on your site or any other site
Lib Loo
"Bill Noble" <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
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>
>
> "RBnDFW" <burkh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:he6jfo$1he$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Bill Noble wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Lib Loo" <heez...@crazymother.kom> wrote in message
>>> news:he5c6b$uqd$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> http://www.pollsb.com/photos/o/69260-alexandra_kerry_john_kerry_s_nbsp_see_through_daughter.jpg
>>>>
>>>> Sen. Kerry's Daughter Alexandra Arrested On Suspicion of DUI
>>>> Updated: Thursday, 19 Nov 2009, 3:52 PM EST
>>>> Published : Thursday, 19 Nov 2009, 11:40 AM EST
>>>>
>>>
>>> why is this anyone's business? the republicans whined about outing ms
>>> palin's laundry, this is a private family matter, not anything of
>>> national import.
>>
>> It's a news item, it's not a partisan post.
>>
>> But since you ask, I seem to recall some similar treatment of GWB's
>> daughters. The difference is Kerry's daughter is an adult.
>
> balderdash - anyone with a modicum of morals objected when Bush's
> daughters got dragged into the spotlight, we objected to Chelsey's media
> focus - if the parents are not abusing the children, and the children are
> not taking actions that subject the parents to blackmail, then this is
> nobody's business except the family and the law. It is not suitable
> material for national news, for political blogs, for newsgroups, or for
> gossip. It is anti-family values (for those who profess such things), and
> it doesn't help anyone. Allow this lady to be treated like a normal
> person who has been picked up by the law - if she gets special treatment
> because of intervention by her father, that is an issue - but her arrest
> is not your business, not mine, and not appropriate for discussion here.
Yes, we saw how the libs used their modicums of morals with Palin's daughter
as well. Especially the pedophile with the gap in his teeth on that late
night show.
Lib Loo
"Curly Surmudgeon" <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote in message
news:he6ktr$n8c$3...@news.eternal-september.org...
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:26:16 -0600, RBnDFW <burkh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Bill Noble wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Lib Loo" <heez...@crazymother.kom> wrote in message
>>> news:he5c6b$uqd$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> http://www.pollsb.com/photos/o/69260-
> alexandra_kerry_john_kerry_s_nbsp_see_through_daughter.jpg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sen. Kerry's Daughter Alexandra Arrested On Suspicion of DUI Updated:
>>>> Thursday, 19 Nov 2009, 3:52 PM EST Published : Thursday, 19 Nov 2009,
>>>> 11:40 AM EST
>>>>
>>>>
>>> why is this anyone's business? the republicans whined about outing ms
>>> palin's laundry, this is a private family matter, not anything of
>>> national import.
>>
>> It's a news item, it's not a partisan post.
>
> By that measure so was Sarah Palin letting her daughter have a live-in
> fuckbuddy in the house.
>
>> But since you ask, I seem to recall some similar treatment of GWB's
>> daughters. The difference is Kerry's daughter is an adult.
>
> Family is off limits. I've broken that cardinal rule once in the past
> and refuse to sin again. Only when the public figure brings their family
> into the arena does family become fair game.
>
> Libby Loo has a long history of attacking family. Trolls understand that
> family is precious and often goads people into uncivilized responses.
> Just as Loo stalks one poster her speaking about "two mommies" and wants
> to fuck the eyesocket of my mother. Now he's violating the privacy of a
> private citizen to enrage people.
>
> Use your Bozo filter.
>
> --
> Regards, Curly
*PLONK* How's that, Bozo?
Bill Noble
"Lib Loo" <heez...@crazymother.kom> wrote in message
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>>
>> the law in California says that if you are over .08, that is prima facie
>> evidence that you are under the influence - it does not say that you must
>> be over .08 to be under the influence. Whether the person in question
>> was or was not DUI is for the courts to decide, not this NG
>
> Nonsense. The liberals are already declaring her as not guilty. You libs
> can't silence the truth. Not yet anyhow.
Dear Mister Professional Troll - there is nothing in my posting that
suggests a liberal or conservative outlook - I suggest family values - I
suggest that individuals be treated as individuals. If you are a royalist
and believe that bloodlines are important, then you are in the wrong
country. In the USA we believe in individual rights and liberties. There
are countries that believe in royalty and the divine rights of kings.
Perhaps you were unaware of this?
Bill Noble
"Lib Loo" <heez...@crazymother.kom> wrote in message
news:hecpbp$ett$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
>>>
>> balderdash - anyone with a modicum of morals objected when Bush's
>> daughters got dragged into the spotlight, we objected to Chelsey's media
>> focus - if the parents are not abusing the children, and the children are
>> not taking actions that subject the parents to blackmail, then this is
>> nobody's business except the family and the law. It is not suitable
>> material for national news, for political blogs, for newsgroups, or for
>> gossip. It is anti-family values (for those who profess such things),
>> and it doesn't help anyone. Allow this lady to be treated like a normal
>> person who has been picked up by the law - if she gets special treatment
>> because of intervention by her father, that is an issue - but her arrest
>> is not your business, not mine, and not appropriate for discussion here.
>
> Yes, we saw how the libs used their modicums of morals with Palin's
> daughter as well. Especially the pedophile with the gap in his teeth on
> that late night show.
so, because someone you object to acts in an improper manner, you somehow
think you are right to do the same? That is damned unchristian, it doesn't
match any moral system I have heard of - perhaps you can explain the
paradigm which you believe in?
Lib Loo
"Curly Surmudgeon" <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote in message
news:he6ktr$n8c$3...@news.eternal-september.org...
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:26:16 -0600, RBnDFW <burkh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Bill Noble wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Lib Loo" <heez...@crazymother.kom> wrote in message
>>> news:he5c6b$uqd$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> http://www.pollsb.com/photos/o/69260-
> alexandra_kerry_john_kerry_s_nbsp_see_through_daughter.jpg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sen. Kerry's Daughter Alexandra Arrested On Suspicion of DUI Updated:
>>>> Thursday, 19 Nov 2009, 3:52 PM EST Published : Thursday, 19 Nov 2009,
>>>> 11:40 AM EST
>>>>
>>>>
>>> why is this anyone's business? the republicans whined about outing ms
>>> palin's laundry, this is a private family matter, not anything of
>>> national import.
>>
>> It's a news item, it's not a partisan post.
>
> By that measure so was Sarah Palin letting her daughter have a live-in
> fuckbuddy in the house.
>
>> But since you ask, I seem to recall some similar treatment of GWB's
>> daughters. The difference is Kerry's daughter is an adult.
>
> Family is off limits. I've broken that cardinal rule once in the past
> and refuse to sin again. Only when the public figure brings their family
> into the arena does family become fair game.
>
> Libby Loo has a long history of attacking family. Trolls understand that
> family is precious and often goads people into uncivilized responses.
> Just as Loo stalks one poster her speaking about "two mommies" and wants
> to fuck the eyesocket of my mother. Now he's violating the privacy of a
> private citizen to enrage people.
>
> Use your Bozo filter.
>
All you can do is lie, aren't you ashamed of yourself? You've already been
busted on this lie. It was my dog who was interested in her eyesocket. The
big hypocrite who likes to call innocent babies zygots is suddenly offended
when his own morals of pimping his crazymommy, or some fruitcake's mommies
marrying each other are questioned. Who's your crazymother's fuckbuddy
today, bitch?
dca...@krl.org
>
> balderdash - anyone with a modicum of morals objected when Bush's daughters
> got dragged into the spotlight, we objected to Chelsey's media focus - if
> the parents are not abusing the children, and the children are not taking
> actions that subject the parents to blackmail, then this is nobody's
> business except the family and the law. It is not suitable material for
> national news, for political blogs, for newsgroups, or for gossip. It is
> anti-family values (for those who profess such things), and it doesn't help
> anyone. Allow this lady to be treated like a normal person who has been
> picked up by the law - if she gets special treatment because of intervention
> by her father, that is an issue - but her arrest is not your business, not
> mine, and not appropriate for discussion here.
I agree. It certainly does not have anything to do with metalworking.
And I agree that the lady ought be treated like a normal person.
Should not get any special attention or treatment. That said, she has
probably gained some special treatment because she is John Kerry's
daughter. And now she is suffering special attention for the same
reason.
Dan
Lib Loo
<dca...@krl.org> wrote in message
news:c246c6a8-c2f0-4473...@j11g2000vbi.googlegroups.com...
Precisely. And I should add that it's her own party's ilk who like to
publish this kind of dirt. Typical lib shark feeding frenzy.
Gunner Asch
wrote:
Crom! ...No wonder she stays drunk!!
brrrrrrr!
Gunner Asch
wrote:
>
>
Odd...Im trying to figure out which "resume" he was babbling about.
???
Im curious...did I mention my several winters on the National Ski Patrol
and working as a bouncer in the Green Lantern in Ely Nevada (whorehouse)
as well?
Id really like his feedback on what he is blithering about. Assuming he
can pull his head out of his ass long enough.
Gunner Asch
<nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>> Nonsense. The liberals are already declaring her as not guilty. You libs
>> can't silence the truth. Not yet anyhow.
>
>Dear Mister Professional Troll - there is nothing in my posting that
>suggests a liberal or conservative outlook - I suggest family values - I
>suggest that individuals be treated as individuals. If you are a royalist
>and believe that bloodlines are important, then you are in the wrong
>country. In the USA we believe in individual rights and liberties. There
>are countries that believe in royalty and the divine rights of kings.
>Perhaps you were unaware of this?
But Bill..as the Leftards claim..she is indeed a "Public Figure" like
Bush..and is deserving of all the mayhem she gets.
Right?
Gunner Asch
wrote:
>
>
About fucking time.
Steve B
>>> But testing showed she was under the limit and it's over.
>>
>>The debate is over?
For now, anyway. But not to worry. Alkies will always fuck up again.
She'll be back.
Steve
rangerssuck
> <dcas...@krl.org> wrote in message
Excuse me sir, I would not have known about this at all (in fact I
neither knew nor cared that Kerry had a daughter) had YOU not posted
it in a metal working group.
Lib Loo
"rangerssuck" <range...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1500bf55-5204-4bf8...@g1g2000vbr.googlegroups.com...
You're welcome.
Lib Loo
"Deucalion" <som...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:29:43 -0800, Gunner Asch
> Then remove the filter. What a maroon!
More blithering from the Douchebag.
Lib Loo
"Deucalion" <som...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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> I'll give him a week and he will have as many problems with his Bozo
> filter as you do. You can lend him a few dozen lame excuses when he
> forgets and replies.
His time in the penalty box will be less than a week. Although his postings
are off-topic in misc.survivalism, they are understandable as trying to put
some kind of point across. Your postings, on the other hand, are some
infantile blitherings of a Douchebag, where if you place an infinite number
of douche bags onto an infinite number of keyboards, one of those douche
bags would have blithered the same text as you.
Dan
> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:54:22 -0800, "Bill Noble"
> <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>
>>
>> "HH&C" <hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> On Nov 21, 12:01 am, "Bill Noble" <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>>>> the law in California says that if you are over .08, that is prima facie
>>>> evidence that you are under the influence - it does not say that you must
>>>> be
>>>> over .08 to be under the influence. Whether the person in question was
>>>> or
>>> Why can't she be judged in the court of public opinion like everyone
>>> else?
>> Because in this country, at least until the constitution is changed, persons
>> accused of a crime are judged by the court system, not by public opinion.
>> Do you disagree with that?
>
>
> So when are you going to clue in your bosses in the DNC?
Just as soon as you clue in your handlers in the RNC.
Deal?
Dan
Dan
> On Nov 21, 11:52 am, "Bill Noble" <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>> "HH&C" <hot-ham-and-che...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:da1a0746-700f-4bd1...@a31g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
For me, it is a matter of hypocrisy (of which most of us, being human,
are guilty at times) and the ability to unduly effect influence DESPITE
that hypocrisy (what most of us are incapable of, for various reasons).
Dan
Steve B
"rangerssuck" <range...@gmail.com> wrote
Excuse me sir, I would not have known about this at all (in fact I
neither knew nor cared that Kerry had a daughter) had YOU not posted
it in a metal working group.
Wow! Do they have smoke signals where you live?
rangerssuck
> "rangerssuck" <rangerss...@gmail.com> wrote
No, but I don't often listen to right-wing radio, either. And the
"news" lately has just been full of prognostications of total world
destruction due to Oprah leaving her show in two years.
Steve B
reply: Well, if you see it on TV, or hear it on the radio, it's got to be
true, right? I mean, they can't broadcast that stuff unless it is true, can
they?
You live in an interesting part of the world. No input from the right, yet
Oprah fills your "news". Very interesting part of the world.
Steve
Lib Loo
"Steve B" <desert...@dishmail.net> wrote in message
news:jvhrt6-...@news.infowest.com...
Sticking ones head in the sand is a good excuse for ignorance, especially
when so many liberal news sources carried the AP story.
http://news.google.com/news/search?aq=f&pz=1&cf=all&ned=us&hl=en&q=alexandra+kerry+dui
Gunner Asch
Im not a Republican.
Snicker
Gunner
Ed Huntress
Don't be confused. For years, Gunner has been a Handloading Buddhist
Republitarian -- probably the only one in existence. At election time, he
looks around in vain for someone who shares his views and whom he can vote
for, preferably a third-party candidate. Since those are mostly retired
honey-dippers and disabled repo men living on SSI, and with other obvious
shortcomings, he never finds a satisfactory one and winds up voting
Republican out of frustration.
But all of this has recently changed, he says. Since he got his medical bill
for his heart attack, he says he's become a Democrat. That's so he doesn't
have to explain why he allowed them to operate on him at a cost that he'll
never be able to repay, while remaining philosophically consistent.
All of this is open to question but it isn't worth doing so. Proceed at your
own risk.
--
Ed Huntress
Ed Huntress
> has lost contact not only with who/what he really is, but has lost
> contact with reality. He's an impotent old man who has fabricated a
> false world where is useful and has a purpose.
>
> I guess it's good for him though. Otherwise, he would have to face
> reality.
>
Gunner likes to make up tall tales. There are plenty of people who do that,
and with certain exceptions, it doesn't matter much.
His physical behavior is his own business. But his public denigration and
dehumanizing of other people because of their politics is everyone's
business -- or it's the business of anyone who objects to it.
So fire at will. He won't care, because he's had to put up a lot of barriers
to deal with the facts of his existence, and putting up another wall is a
minor matter for him; it's become a habit.
I just try to correct some of the more egregious misrepresentations. It's
like shooting layups at the trash can with crumpled pieces of paper; nothing
will come of it, but it keeps up your mental game. d8-)
--
Ed Huntress
rangerssuck
> "Steve B" <deserttra...@dishmail.net> wrote in message
>
> news:jvhrt6-...@news.infowest.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "rangerssuck" <rangerss...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:7ad400f8-dcb9-4b9e...@m35g2000vbi.googlegroups.com...
> > On Nov 23, 3:01 pm, "Steve B" <deserttra...@dishmail.net> wrote:
> >> "rangerssuck" <rangerss...@gmail.com> wrote
>
> >> Excuse me sir, I would not have known about this at all (in fact I
> >> neither knew nor cared that Kerry had a daughter) had YOU not posted
> >> it in a metal working group.
>
> >> Wow! Do they have smoke signals where you live?
>
> > No, but I don't often listen to right-wing radio, either. And the
> > "news" lately has just been full of prognostications of total world
> > destruction due to Oprah leaving her show in two years.
>
> > reply: Well, if you see it on TV, or hear it on the radio, it's got to be
> > true, right? I mean, they can't broadcast that stuff unless it is true,
> > can they?
>
> > You live in an interesting part of the world. No input from the right,
> > yet Oprah fills your "news". Very interesting part of the world.
>
> > Steve
>
> Sticking ones head in the sand is a good excuse for ignorance, especially
Well, see, I get all my news from Gunner, SteveB and Lib Loo. I listen
to whatever they report from bizzaro world, and just believe the
opposite.
And what the fuck is a "liberal news source" anyway? Is it anyone who
doesn't believe that Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin should share joint
presidency?
rangerssuck
> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:51:32 -0500, "Ed Huntress"
>
>
>
>
> >"Deucalion" <some...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
> >news:trtng5lriqdptfb1r...@4ax.com...
> >> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:44:30 -0800, Gunner Asch
> >> <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>
>
> >>>>Gunner Asch wrote:
> >>>>> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:54:22 -0800, "Bill Noble"
> >>>>> <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>
> has lost contact not only with who/what he really is, but has lost
> contact with reality. He's an impotent old man who has fabricated a
> false world where is useful and has a purpose.
>
> I guess it's good for him though. Otherwise, he would have to face
> reality.
If somebody fave a shit (and I don't), they could contact the Kern
County election commissioner and request Gunners voting record. It
wont tell you who he voted for, but it will tell you in which
elections he voted and, in the case of primaries, for which party.
This is all public information and freely available.
Ed Huntress
It depends on the state. Here in NJ, it's all public information.
This I learned when my son's girlfriend, who had an internship with the RNC
a year ago, told my son that I'm a registered Republican and that I've voted
in every election since 1978. d8-)
--
Ed Huntress
Ed Huntress
> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:57:46 -0500, "Ed Huntress"
> and location" of my choosing. It's the only time I've known him to go
> beyond his usual "come to my place" type threat. I knew that his ass
> couldn't back up his threat, so I took him up on it.
>
> Watching him back peddle entertained me for weeks if not months. It
> was then that he claimed to filter me. Now, he has public ally
> filtered me twice. I'm sure that it's just the beginning of a
> lifelong trend. He has not corrected the life decisions that got him
> in the hospital the fist, second, or third time. So, I don't
> anticipate him doing it for much longer.
<sigh> When people start threatening to beat each other up, I tune out. That
whole business is beyond childish.
Do whatever you want; the threats are a fool's game.
If you've noticed, this group of NG's, brought together for us by Cliff (and
before Cliff, it was Gunner) is plonking the hell out of each other. Pretty
soon, it will be like a bad telephone connection, in which everyone is
saying "hello?" but no one is listening. Maybe that's a good thing. <g>
I'm an editor by trade. I'm just here to make blue-pencil corrections, and
to practice a little fact-checking and ameliorative re-write. Hardly anyone
is listening, but here's my salvation: I really don't care anymore. d8-)
There are maybe four or five people left here who are worth talking to. Most
of the smart ones have left, but the remaining few make it worthwhile.
--
Ed Huntress
Ed Huntress
> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:35:45 -0500, "Ed Huntress"
> set to reject any posts with more than four cross posts. Between that
> and a few other filters, I filter out 80 percent of the total posts in
> this ng.
>
> I've gravitated towards somewhat dangerous occupations such as law
> enforcement and associated jobs since I got out of the military. So,
> I've been in a few fights and gunfights in my 30 plus years at it.
> Childish or not, they are a part of my everyday work experience. I
> don't normally get into those types of threats and I've never made
> one. But, it being gunner and me knowing that his threat was empty, I
> just couldn't help myself.
>
> I'm seriously close to leaving this ng behind. It's become worse than
> useless. Yes, a lot of it has to do with cross posting to newsgroups
> that have nothing in common just to stir up strife and malcontent. If
> I wanted to hear threats from people who not only can, but probably
> will, back them up, I'd just go to work and get paid for it.
<g> I've moved my serious reading and talking to a couple of other places
already. It's getting very hard to avoid the foul atmosphere without
moderators, and even they sometimes don't do very well at it.
I told one good guy who *is* worth talking to, in e-mail a week or so ago,
that if there's one more lost sane soul on RCM, I'm gone. If that comes to
pass, no one will be left to care, anyway. That's a win-win.
--
Ed Huntress
Steve B
"rangerssuck" <range...@gmail.com> wrote
If somebody fave a shit (and I don't), they could contact the Kern
County election commissioner and request Gunners voting record. It
wont tell you who he voted for, but it will tell you in which
elections he voted and, in the case of primaries, for which party.
This is all public information and freely available.
reply:
So, tell me. Does it suck to be you, or what? Go pound some metal for
Chrissakes.
Steve
Steve B
"rangerssuck" <range...@gmail.com> wrote
And what the fuck is a "liberal news source" anyway? Is it anyone who
doesn't believe that Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin should share joint
presidency?
No, it is a theological organization that thinks the American people are an
ignorant unwashed bunch who need an elite ruling class to decide what is
right and best for the masses. And they see that there is no upside with
joining with the rabble, but rather (no pun intended) with the illuminati,
and being propagandists instead of true journalists.
Steve
Gunner Asch
Pretty damned well stated.
Kudos!
Gunner
Gunner Asch
See what the unemployed Leftists do to fill in their days?
Ive been busy out in the shop..changing to day hours now that winter
is almost here and its down in the high 30s at night.
Im redoing my reloading shop, and trying to figure out how best to
redo my electronics shop..all in an 8x14 room thats attached to my
home.
Yawn..or I could simply go and take a nap. Ive got 3 dogs at my feet
and two cats in my lap..and everyone has been yawning at me..so the
nap might win. Im by nature nocturnal..and this new day schedule is
kicking my ass.
>
Anyways..one can see what the unemployed and truely useless
Leftwingers do to fill their rather pathetic days, waiting for their
next cheese ration to come in.
Shrug
Gunner
HH&C
> >>> Limbaugh is a public figure - that is different - try an equivalent
> >>> example - Jenna Bush for example - and my position is the same -
> >>> nobody's
> >>> business.
>
> >> I applaud you. You are consistant.
>
> > Whether it's Ted Kennedy or Alexandra Kerry, DUI is wrong. One other thing
> > else that is consistent ...the cover-up. Why isn't her mug shot on
> > theSmokingGun.com?
> >http://satiricalpolitical.com/2009/11/19/alexandra-kerry-arrested-def...
>
> how many arrests are there yearly for DUI?? right now there are about
> 15,000 alcohol related fatalities per year - presumably all those folks
> should appear on this site?http://www.stanforddaily.com/cgi-bin/?p=1034607says that there were 31 DUI
> incidents in 2008 - should all of these 31 appear?
>
> this site
> (http://www.adp.cahwnet.gov/FactSheets/Driving_Under-the-Influence_Sta...)
> says
>
> "More than 1.5 million drivers were arrested for
> driving under-the-influence of alcohol or narcotics.
> This is an arrest rate of 1 for every 121 licensed
> drivers in the United States."
>
> Feel free to post 1.5 million names and mug shots per year. But you have no
> right to single out an individual to put on your site or any other site
If Garry Trudeau thought it would help a foreigner get elected, he's
run all those names in his comic strip.
HH&C
> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:44:30 -0800, Gunner Asch
>
>
>
>
>
> <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>
> >>Gunner Asch wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:54:22 -0800, "Bill Noble"
> >>> <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>
> >>>>news:fd40ab31-a231-42b3...@v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>> On Nov 21, 12:01 am, "Bill Noble" <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>>> the law in California says that if you are over .08, that is prima facie
> >>>>>> evidence that you are under the influence - it does not say that you must
> >>>>>> be
> >>>>>> over .08 to be under the influence. Whether the person in question was
> >>>>>> or
> >>>>>> was not DUI is for the courts to decide, not this NG-
> >>>>> Why can't she be judged in the court of public opinion like everyone
> >>>>> else?
> >>>> Because in this country, at least until the constitution is changed, persons
> >>>> accused of a crime are judged by the court system, not by public opinion.
> >>>> Do you disagree with that?
>
> >>> So when are you going to clue in your bosses in the DNC?
>
> >>Just as soon as you clue in your handlers in the RNC.
>
> >>Deal?
>
> >>Dan
>
> >Im not a Republican.
>
> >Snicker
>
> >Gunner
>
You say that he consistently take handouts like a Democrat.
HH&C
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:34:11 -0800 (PST), "HH&C"
>
>
>
>
>
> <hot-ham-and-che...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On Nov 22, 2:12 am, Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:06:43 -0800 (PST), "HH&C"
>
> >> <hot-ham-and-che...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On Nov 21, 9:57 pm, Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net> wrote:
> >> >> "Lib Loo" <heezb...@crazymother.kom> wrote:
> >> >> >http://www.pollsb.com/photos/o/69260-alexandra_kerry_john_kerry_s_nbs...
> >> >> >Sen. Kerry's Daughter Alexandra Arrested On Suspicion of DUI
>
>
> >> >The debate is over? You're starting to sound like Algore again.
>
> >> And she will..will be convicted for an alcohol related crime. Perhaps
> >> not DUI..but impaired driver etc etc
>
> >> Gunner
>
> >Dude. The debate is over. Winston Smith has spoken.
>
> He always speaks..but little of value comes out of his mouth.
>
> Gunner
I'm an optimist. That's why I haven't filtered him... yet.
Steve B
"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
news:salog51pq4au3iov9...@4ax.com...
YW. Even a brain damaged PTSD survivor has lucid moments.
And at least I have more sense and decency to confront parents of murdered
children and ask them, "How did you feel when you got the news?"
or
"As you can see, the winds from hurricane Frieda are growing, now up to 120
mph here on the Boulevard in Galveston, Texas ....... whoosh ...... the
sound of a Volvo blowing past .......... We're going to stay right here and
report all the news as it happens."
yet .........
They're absent when a man applies to run for president of the United States,
and they're too busy to investigate his citizenship........... or to do a
program on how Barney Frank ran a male prostitution ring from his DC
townhouse.
Steve
Steve B
"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
Shit, I'm unemployed, retired, disabled, and I can't find enough time in the
day to do the things I want to do for fun and have to do to keep this ranch
running. Must be nice to sit at a keyboard all day, commenting on the way
things "should" be. Nah, if I had to do that, I'd chew on the front sight
of my Benelli until it went off.
Steve
Gunner Asch
Point, set and match!
<VBG>
Gunner
as...@charter.net
>
>I told one good guy who *is* worth talking to, in e-mail a week or so ago,
>that if there's one more lost sane soul on RCM, I'm gone. If that comes to
>pass, no one will be left to care, anyway. That's a win-win.
Well, Ed, I for one hope the group doesn't totally dissolve.
I don't talk here much, but do listen, and enjoy the education I get
along the way. Learning both from people who think but don't question
and those who habitually ask good questions and demand first
references for statements.
Maybe we can convince some of the survivalist types that returning to
dialup bulletin boards is the safest way to protect their precious
communication links.
Karl Pearson
Ed Huntress
<as...@charter.net> wrote in message
news:3i3rg5h553gqn725o...@4ax.com...
> <big snip>
>>
>>I told one good guy who *is* worth talking to, in e-mail a week or so ago,
>>that if there's one more lost sane soul on RCM, I'm gone. If that comes to
>>pass, no one will be left to care, anyway. That's a win-win.
>
>
> Well, Ed, I for one hope the group doesn't totally dissolve.
I doubt if it will, Karl. But I wonder who will be left, and what there will
be to read except for exercises in extreme insults.
>
> I don't talk here much, but do listen, and enjoy the education I get
> along the way. Learning both from people who think but don't question
> and those who habitually ask good questions and demand first
> references for statements.
>
> Maybe we can convince some of the survivalist types that returning to
> dialup bulletin boards is the safest way to protect their precious
> communication links.
You'd better talk to Cliff. I've tried but to no avail. Since Gunner gave up
(largely, but not completely) his multi-NG provocative posts, Cliff has
picked up the banner and outstripped what Gunner was doing by a mile. He's
single-handedly turned the place into an open sewer, IMO. Oh, and TMT
appears to be doing the same thing now, although I don't see his posts. The
replies are enough to make you puke. Fortunately, those cut-and-paste jobs
of his don't seem to have legs, unlike many of the ones that Cliff posts.
It's easy to wreck a special-interest forum like this. Once you've found a
provocative subject that gets people riled up, just drag in some
professional pricks by cross-posting to the political and other k00k groups
and you'll wind up with insults and counter-insults that infect the whole
place. That's what's happened, and it was, and continues to be, intentional.
I don't know how to appeal to those people to stop it. At this moment the
cross-posting is at a low ebb, and we can see that the NG tends to get back
on track when there isn't all of that noise -- there are some interesting
threads going on. I'd like to see it continue that way, but some people
apparently do not.
--
Ed Huntress
Ignoramus17202
with me. While I do my share of political bantering, I think that this
is a great group of like-minded people from whom I have much to learn.
i
wmbjk...@citlink.net
Check the title of this newsgroup. Once the regulars allowed
discussion to stray from the topic even slightly (the "virtual coffee
shop" justification), it was predictably impossible to limit what
should be talked about. Gummer was the worst and he and his pals begat
cliff and tmt. The side effect is that some folks won't answer
questions from those who've overexposed their idiotic opinions. I
can't speak for others, but I for damned sure am not going to waste a
minute helping people who are in favor of hanging others for perceived
and ridiculously over-generalized politic views. Over the years
several people complained about off-topic posts and were shown the
door by a whole bunch of the regulars. So I gave up complaining a long
time ago. The group is what it is, and I've even grown to like the
Usenet version of the Springer Show. :-) But if the regulars wanted
to turn the newsgroup into what it was designed to be, then all they
need to do is 1. Quit starting off-topic threads. If it's not metal
related, then take it somewhere else. 2. Quit responding to off-topic
posts no matter who they're from. But neither is going to happen.
Wayne
Mark Rand
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>Wayne
Wayne,
STFU
You are so monomaniacally boring that you are no longer even amusing. Either
say something positive and constructive or don't say anything at all.
Mark Rand
RTFM