OT - Why We Need a "No Child Left Behind" effort
Too_Many_Tools
This is how History WILL remember George W. Bush Jr.
Conservatives...feel free to use these as your taglines to your
comments..they will only reinforce your personal comments in the eyes
of the World.
TMT
Bushisms over the years
By The Associated Press The Associated Press Sat Jan 3
President George W. Bush will leave behind a legacy of Bushisms, the
label stamped on the commander in chief's original speaking style.
Some of the president's more notable malaprops and mangled statements:
___
• "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully." —
September 2000, explaining his energy policies at an event in
Michigan.
• "Rarely is the question asked, is our children learning?" — January
2000, during a campaign event in South Carolina.
• "They misunderestimated the compassion of our country. I think they
misunderestimated the will and determination of the commander in
chief, too." — Sept. 26, 2001, in Langley, Va. Bush was referring to
the terrorists who carried out the Sept. 11 attacks.
• "There's no doubt in my mind, not one doubt in my mind, that we will
fail." — Oct. 4, 2001, in Washington. Bush was remarking on a back-to-
work plan after the terrorist attacks.
• "It would be a mistake for the United States Senate to allow any
kind of human cloning to come out of that chamber." — April 10, 2002,
at the White House, as Bush urged Senate passage of a broad ban on
cloning.
• "I want to thank the dozens of welfare-to-work stories, the actual
examples of people who made the firm and solemn commitment to work
hard to embetter themselves." — April 18, 2002, at the White House.
• "There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably
in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool
me — you can't get fooled again." — Sept. 17, 2002, in Nashville,
Tenn.
• "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They
never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people,
and neither do we." — Aug. 5, 2004, at the signing ceremony for a
defense spending bill.
• "Too many good docs are getting out of business. Too many OB/GYNs
aren't able to practice their love with women all across this
country." — Sept. 6, 2004, at a rally in Poplar Bluff, Mo.
• "Our most abundant energy source is coal. We have enough coal to
last for 250 years, yet coal also prevents an environmental
challenge." — April 20, 2005, in Washington.
• "We look forward to hearing your vision, so we can more better do
our job." — Sept. 20, 2005, in Gulfport, Miss.
• "I can't wait to join you in the joy of welcoming neighbors back
into neighborhoods, and small businesses up and running, and cutting
those ribbons that somebody is creating new jobs." — Sept. 5, 2005,
when Bush met with residents of Poplarville, Miss., in the wake of
Hurricane Katrina.
• "It was not always a given that the United States and America would
have a close relationship. After all, 60 years we were at war 60 years
ago we were at war." — June 29, 2006, at the White House, where Bush
met with Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi.
• "Make no mistake about it, I understand how tough it is, sir. I talk
to families who die." — Dec. 7, 2006, in a joint appearance with
British Prime Minister Tony Blair.
• "These are big achievements for this country, and the people of
Bulgaria ought to be proud of the achievements that they have
achieved." — June 11, 2007, in Sofia, Bulgaria.
• "Mr. Prime Minister, thank you for your introduction. Thank you for
being such a fine host for the OPEC summit." — September 2007, in
Sydney, Australia, where Bush was attending an APEC summit.
• "Thank you, Your Holiness. Awesome speech." April 16, 2008, at a
ceremony welcoming Pope Benedict XVI to the White House.
• "The fact that they purchased the machine meant somebody had to make
the machine. And when somebody makes a machine, it means there's jobs
at the machine-making place." — May 27, 2008, in Mesa, Ariz.
• "And they have no disregard for human life." — July 15, 2008, at the
White House. Bush was referring to enemy fighters in Afghanistan.
• "I remember meeting a mother of a child who was abducted by the
North Koreans right here in the Oval Office." — June 26, 2008, during
a Rose Garden news briefing.
• "Throughout our history, the words of the Declaration have inspired
immigrants from around the world to set sail to our shores. These
immigrants have helped transform 13 small colonies into a great and
growing nation of more than 300 people." — July 4, 2008 in Virginia.
• "The people in Louisiana must know that all across our country
there's a lot of prayer — prayer for those whose lives have been
turned upside down. And I'm one of them. It's good to come down here."
— Sept. 3, 2008, at an emergency operations center in Baton Rouge,
La., after Hurricane Gustav hit the Gulf Coast.
• "This thaw — took a while to thaw, it's going to take a while to
unthaw." Oct. 20, 2008, in Alexandria, La., as he discussed the
economy and frozen credit markets.
Wes
Take your meds.
RogerN
Did you get any new tools for Christmas?
RogerN
Too_Many_Tools
> Did you get any new tools for Christmas?
>
> RogerN
Yep...still unpacking them.
TMT was a good boy this year and Santa delivered. ;<)
TMT
Libby Loo
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> A Presidency is a terrible thing to waste....
Thank you for properly labeling your off-topic thread. Have a nice day.
Too_Many_Tools
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> > A Presidency is a terrible thing to waste....
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> Thank you for properly labeling your off-topic thread. Have a nice day.
You are welcome.
It is out of respect for those in the rec.crafts.metalworking group
that it was done.
Those who wish to participate can, those who do not can pass over it.
TMT
Curly Squirrelmudgeon
"Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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It would be nice if you could extend that respect to misc.survivalism as
well.
Or maybe we can include rec.crafts.metalworking in some of our lively
discussions from now on, thanks for the idea, we'll be sure to let them know
it was courtesy of you.
RogerN
Yep...still unpacking them.
TMT
No wonder you can't get them unpacked, you're too busy posting political
stuff :-)
Be sure and let us know what Santa brought you!
RogerN
Obamarxist Obamaggot
A Presidency is a terrible thing to waste....
Yale grades portray Kerry as a lackluster student
In 1999, The New Yorker published a transcript indicating that Bush had
received a cumulative score of 77 for his first three years at Yale and a
roughly similar average under a non-numerical rating system during his
senior year.Kerry, who graduated two years before Bush, got a cumulative 76
for his four years, according to a transcript that Kerry sent to the Navy
when he was applying for officer training school.
JENNIFER C. BRACERAS
Jennifer C. Braceras is an attorney and research fellow at Harvard Law
School. Her column appears regularly in the Globe
Gore's undergraduate transcript from Harvard is riddled with C's, including
a C-minus in introductory economics, a D in one science course, and a C-plus
in another. "In his sophomore year at Harvard," the Post reported, "Gore's
grades were lower than any semester recorded on Bush's transcript from
Yale." Moreover, Gore's graduate school record - consistently glossed over
by the press - is nothing short of shameful. In 1971, Gore enrolled in
Vanderbilt Divinity School where, according to Bill Turque, author of
"Inventing Al Gore," he received F's in five of the eight classes he took
over the course of three semesters. Not surprisingly, Gore did not receive a
degree from the divinity school. Nor did Gore graduate from Vanderbilt Law
School, where he enrolled for a brief time and received his fair share of
C's. (Bush went on to earn an MBA from Harvard).
Copyright 2000 Globe Newspaper Company
Gore's Dubious School Record
Author: By JENNIFER C. BRACERAS
Date: 09/07/2000 Page: A15 Section: Op-Ed
JENNIFER C. BRACERAS
Jennifer C. Braceras is an attorney and research fellow at Harvard Law
School. Her column appears regularly in the Globe.
When will the liberal media stop treating left-wing ideology as a proxy for
intelligence? For months the press has questioned the intellect of
Republican candidate George W. Bush, while describing Al Gore as "serious,"
"intellectual" - even "wonkish."
The basis for the media's unfair attacks on Bush's intelligence is his
30-year-old Yale College transcript (purloined last fall and published by
The New Yorker). Yet The Washington Post's subsequent revelation of Gore's
unimpressive academic record has done little to alter the media's false
portrayal of Gore as "the smartest kid in the class." It is a record that is
worth reviewing, if only to debunk the myth of Gore as a serious student.
Gore's undergraduate transcript from Harvard is riddled with C's, including
a C-minus in introductory economics, a D in one science course, and a C-plus
in another. "In his sophomore year at Harvard," the Post reported, "Gore's
grades were lower than any semester recorded on Bush's transcript from
Yale." Moreover, Gore's graduate school record - consistently glossed over
by the press - is nothing short of shameful. In 1971, Gore enrolled in
Vanderbilt Divinity School where, according to Bill Turque, author of
"Inventing Al Gore," he received F's in five of the eight classes he took
over the course of three semesters. Not surprisingly, Gore did not receive a
degree from the divinity school. Nor did Gore graduate from Vanderbilt Law
School, where he enrolled for a brief time and received his fair share of
C's. (Bush went on to earn an MBA from Harvard).
But whereas the liberal press has described Bush's college days as a time of
misspent youth, media accounts of Gore's undergraduate years are grossly
fawning. (The New York Times: "As Mr. Bush was frolicking around Yale, a
young man named Al Gore was studying at Harvard"; "Harvard nurtured the part
of [Gore] that is in love with the world of ideas." The New Republic: "At
Harvard, Gore set himself formidable intellectual challenges.")
And then there is the laughable October issue of Psychology Today. As part
of a cover story entitled, "Gore and Bush on the Couch," the magazine
reports the results of a spurious "analysis" of 10 of the candidates
speeches and/or interviews. The authors claim that the study "verifies" the
popular stereotype that "Bush is not as deep a thinker as Gore."
Two pages later, readers will be shocked - shocked! - to learn that the
magazine's (no doubt scientific) study of the candidates' facial gestures
reveals that Gore is the "more serious, constrained, controlled, weighty,
ponderous, [and] dominant of the two candidates." More ponderous, perhaps .
. . but, please, spare me the pop psychology.
Biased reporters, however, are not the only ones to blame. Indeed, the vice
president himself has cultivated this genius persona (one of many). Thus, he
did not correct PBS News anchor Gwen Ifill when she referred to him as a
graduate of Vanderbilt Law School. Even more significant was the line in
Gore's convention acceptance speech in which he stated, "I know my own
imperfections. I know that sometimes people say I'm too serious, that I talk
too much substance and policy." Poor Al, he's just too smart for the job.
Of course, the stereotyping of conservative candidates as dumb and liberal
candidates as "brilliant" is nothing new. During the 1950s, the media
lionized Democrat Adlai Stevenson as an intellectual, while ridiculing
Republican Dwight Eisenhower as an ineffectual simpleton. Back then, the
members of the press knew full well that Stevenson attended Harvard Law
School and, yet, had not received a degree. But the media gave Stevenson a
pass. (Sound familiar?) Had resourceful journalists investigated, they might
have learned (as we now know from Stevenson's biographer John Bartlow
Martin) that Harvard Law School Dean Erwin Griswold had hidden Stevenson's
transcript in a locked cabinet in his office. What was he hiding? Stevenson,
the so-called "thinking man's candidate," had, in fact, flunked out of
Harvard Law.
In the end, neither intellect nor academic performance is an especially
important criterion by which to judge our presidents. Ronald Reagan and
Harry Truman were no scholars, but they rank among the best presidents in
our country's history. And what about many liberals' favorite president -
Franklin Roosevelt? Social, popular, and famously unserious as an
undergraduate at Harvard, FDR had an undistinguished academic record. Yet,
later in life, Roosevelt's charisma and his ability to persuade, compromise,
and lead helped him to become a "reformer with results."
This election is not an I.Q. test; it is about which candidate has better
judgment. And that is why, despite the media's love affair with the
celluloid image of Al Gore the policy-wonk, it is the affable, authentic,
and sensible Bush who would make the better leader.
© Copyright 2000 Globe Newspaper Company
Return to the home page of The Globe Online
Curly Surmudgeon
> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> On Jan 4, 11:36 am, "Libby Loo" <gur...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> > A Presidency is a terrible thing to waste....
>>>
>>> Thank you for properly labeling your off-topic thread. Have a nice
>>> day.
>>
>> You are welcome.
>>
>> It is out of respect for those in the rec.crafts.metalworking group
>> that it was done.
>>
>> Those who wish to participate can, those who do not can pass over it.
>>
>>
> It would be nice if you could extend that respect to misc.survivalism as
> well.
> Or maybe we can include rec.crafts.metalworking in some of our lively
> discussions from now on, thanks for the idea, we'll be sure to let them
> know it was courtesy of you.
Please be on notice that my personal stalkers words above are not mine.
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Regards, Curly
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Ed Huntress
"Obamarxist Obamaggot" <Obam...@Democrap.org> wrote in message
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> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:45ce3811-a940-4a62...@35g2000pry.googlegroups.com...
> A Presidency is a terrible thing to waste....
>
>
> Yale grades portray Kerry as a lackluster student
> In 1999, The New Yorker published a transcript indicating that Bush had
> received a cumulative score of 77 for his first three years at Yale and a
> roughly similar average under a non-numerical rating system during his
> senior year.Kerry, who graduated two years before Bush, got a cumulative
> 76 for his four years, according to a transcript that Kerry sent to the
> Navy when he was applying for officer training school.
>
> http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/06/07/yale_grades_portray_kerry_as_a_lackluster_student/
So, you're saying that we had a choice between two sloppy, lazy, ignorant
assholes, and we chose Bush? I couldn't disagree. And we got what we voted
for.
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Ed Huntress
Too_Many_Tools
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> > On Jan 4, 11:36 am, "Libby Loo" <gur...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> >> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> >>news:45ce3811-a940-4a62...@35g2000pry.googlegroups.com...
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> >> > A Presidency is a terrible thing to waste....
>
> >> Thank you for properly labeling your off-topic thread. Have a nice day.
>
> > You are welcome.
>
> > It is out of respect for those in the rec.crafts.metalworking group
> > that it was done.
>
> > Those who wish to participate can, those who do not can pass over it.
>
> It would be nice if you could extend that respect to misc.survivalism as
> well.
> Or maybe we can include rec.crafts.metalworking in some of our lively
> discussions from now on, thanks for the idea, we'll be sure to let them know
>
> - Show quoted text -
We had a conversation in the past where it was stated that political
discussions were the accepted norm.
If this has changed, I would be happy to move it elsewhere...as long
as everyone else does too.
I would note that the discussions of politics does have a strong
survival aspect to it.
Believe it or not, I often use political ideas discussed here to
determine personal survival threats and responses.
An example...I did not vote for McCain based on discussions in this
group.
Survival is about information..knowing it and using it as one's
survival requires it.
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
wrote:
> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:45ce3811-a940-4a62...@35g2000pry.googlegroups.com...
> A Presidency is a terrible thing to waste....
>
> Yale grades portray Kerry as a lackluster student
> In 1999, The New Yorker published a transcript indicating that Bush had
> received a cumulative score of 77 for his first three years at Yale and a
> roughly similar average under a non-numerical rating system during his
> senior year.Kerry, who graduated two years before Bush, got a cumulative 76
> for his four years, according to a transcript that Kerry sent to the Navy
> when he was applying for officer training school.
>
Yawn...and Bush is of the same level.
And Kerry and Bush are related.
So what?
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
> On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 12:22:14 -0600, Curly Squirrelmudgeon wrote:
> > "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> >> On Jan 4, 11:36 am, "Libby Loo" <gur...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> >>> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> >>> news:45ce3811-
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> >>> > A Presidency is a terrible thing to waste....
>
> >>> Thank you for properly labeling your off-topic thread. Have a nice
> >>> day.
>
> >> You are welcome.
>
> >> It is out of respect for those in the rec.crafts.metalworking group
> >> that it was done.
>
> >> Those who wish to participate can, those who do not can pass over it.
>
> > It would be nice if you could extend that respect to misc.survivalism as
> > well.
> > Or maybe we can include rec.crafts.metalworking in some of our lively
> > discussions from now on, thanks for the idea, we'll be sure to let them
> > know it was courtesy of you.
>
> Please be on notice that my personal stalkers words above are not mine.
>
> --
> Regards, Curly
> 15 Days More of George Walker Bush Plundering the Economy
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> - Show quoted text -
I know...you have an opinion that you can support with an intelligent
response.
TMT
Jeff Mc
>
> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:45ce3811-a940-4a62...@35g2000pry.googlegroups.com...
> A Presidency is a terrible thing to waste....
>
> Yale grades portray Kerry as a lackluster student
> In 1999, The New Yorker published a transcript indicating that Bush had
> received a cumulative score of 77 for his first three years at Yale and
> a roughly similar average under a non-numerical rating system during his
> When will the liberal media stop treating left-wing ideology as a proxy
> for intelligence? For months the press has questioned the intellect of
> Republican candidate George W. Bush, while describing Al Gore as
> "serious," "intellectual" - even "wonkish."
> Of course, the stereotyping of conservative candidates as dumb and
> liberal candidates as "brilliant" is nothing new.
> In the end, neither intellect nor academic performance is an especially
> important criterion by which to judge our presidents.
> This election is not an I.Q. test; it is about which candidate has
> better judgment.
Precisely.
Bush has managed to be wrong about just about everything and everyone
during his two terms. His judgment is abysmal. He surrounds himself
with incompetent, criminal cronies, not statesmen, intellectuals and
leaders. He's a patsy who has been hoodwinked by everyone from bin Laden
to Putin to his own handlers. He lets his own VP run a competing shadow
administration under his nose. His failed economic and energy policies
have nearly bankrupted this nation. He has squandered America's global
respect, good will and moral leadership, and he's reduced us to an
international near-pariah state. He has failed to rise to every
occasion from Katrina to the mortgage crisis. Today, mostly only the
some of uber-wealthy are better off than they were eight years ago.
Bush's bad judgment has led this nation lurching and reeling from one
massive failure, avoidable crisis, or missed opportunity to another.
We are now a nation who tortures and imprisons people, like the worst
despotic regime. We are now a nation that wiretaps and spies on our own
people, like a Communist police state. We are now a nation that must
regularly go, hat in hand, to wealthier nations, begging for more credit
to prop up our faltering economy, like some bankrupt banana republic.
That's George W.Bush's legacy.
Jeff Mc
Wes
From: Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: misc.survivalism,rec.crafts.metalworking,alt.politics.bush
Take your meds.
Gunner Asch
>> This election is not an I.Q. test; it is about which candidate has
>> better judgment.
>
>Precisely.
>
>Bush has managed to be wrong about just about everything and everyone
>during his two terms.
Your opinion, and the buffoonery it shows, is noted once again with
amusement
Gunner
"Upon Roosevelt's death in 1945, H. L. Mencken predicted in his diary
that Roosevelt would be remembered as a great president, "maybe even
alongside Washington and Lincoln," opining that Roosevelt "had every
quality that morons esteem in their heroes.""
Curly Surmudgeon
> "Obamarxist Obamaggot" <Obam...@Democrap.org> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:45ce3811-
a940-4a62-916...@35g2000pry.googlegroups.com...
>> A Presidency is a terrible thing to waste....
>>
>>
>> Yale grades portray Kerry as a lackluster student In 1999, The New
>> Yorker published a transcript indicating that Bush had received a
>> cumulative score of 77 for his first three years at Yale and a roughly
>> similar average under a non-numerical rating system during his senior
>> year.Kerry, who graduated two years before Bush, got a cumulative 76
>> for his four years, according to a transcript that Kerry sent to the
>> Navy when he was applying for officer training school.
>>
>> http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/06/07/
yale_grades_portray_kerry_as_a_lackluster_student/
>
> So, you're saying that we had a choice between two sloppy, lazy,
> ignorant assholes, and we chose Bush? I couldn't disagree. And we got
> what we voted for.
Not speaking for TMT but no, "we" had a myriad of choices however the
sheple of both parties insisted on selecting the evilist of two lessors.
Many choices were available.
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Curly Surmudgeon
> Obamarxist Obamaggot wrote:
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>> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Can I vote for you? Alternative, will you have my love-child?
Curly Smurffucker
"Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I wouldn't worry about the Squirrelmuffin dude, he's not a stalker. He's
just hot for Curly's crazymother. He only shows up when Curly starts
bragging about her exploits and all the partners she's had. I guess he just
wants his turn too.
Curly Smurffucker
"Curly Surmudgeon" <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote in message
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Um, wouldn't that be YOU having HIS lovechild?
Love,
Your twin sister
Curly Smurffucker
"Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Well ok, those are very good points. One can also make the point that
politics can have a lot to do with metalworking too! As an example, I didn't
buy a new drill press based on Obama being elected. Thanks for opening my
eyes to the possibility, I'll make sure that they know it was all your idea!
Stuart Wheaton
> On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 13:57:59 -0600, Jeff Mc <NoS...@NoThanks.org> wrote:
>
>>> This election is not an I.Q. test; it is about which candidate has
>>> better judgment.
>> Precisely.
>>
>> Bush has managed to be wrong about just about everything and everyone
>> during his two terms.
>
>
> Your opinion, and the buffoonery it shows, is noted once again with
> amusement
>
> Gunner
Gunner, I have been following your motorcycle thread, and I have
concluded the following:
You are a fairly brilliant mechanic, but you are beyond clueless when it
comes to judging people. The political crap you post proves this beyond
a doubt.
Just a data point, use it as you see fit.
Sue
<gur...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
>Well ok, those are very good points. One can also make the point that
>politics can have a lot to do with metalworking too! As an example, I didn't
>buy a new drill press based on Obama being elected. Thanks for opening my
>eyes to the possibility, I'll make sure that they know it was all your idea!
Would whomever is doing this please stop the nonsense. It's just
ridiculous and my killfile is getting filled up. OK, there's no max
capacity so far as I know, but you're being a damned nuisance.
Sue
hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com
> A Presidency is a terrible thing to waste....
>
>
> Conservatives...feel free to use these as your taglines to your
> comments..they will only reinforce your personal comments in the eyes
> of the World.
>
> TMT
>
> Bushisms over the years
> By The Associated Press The Associated Press Sat Jan 3
>
> President George W. Bush will leave behind a legacy of Bushisms, the
> label stamped on the commander in chief's original speaking style.
> Some of the president's more notable malaprops and mangled statements:
Is this what the Associated Press has become, an Al Franken parody on
Air America?
hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com
> On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 12:22:14 -0600, Curly Squirrelmudgeon wrote:
> > "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> >> On Jan 4, 11:36 am, "Libby Loo" <gur...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> >>> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> >>> news:45ce3811-
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> >>> > A Presidency is a terrible thing to waste....
>
> >>> Thank you for properly labeling your off-topic thread. Have a nice
> >>> day.
>
> >> You are welcome.
>
> >> It is out of respect for those in the rec.crafts.metalworking group
> >> that it was done.
>
> >> Those who wish to participate can, those who do not can pass over it.
>
> > It would be nice if you could extend that respect to misc.survivalism as
> > well.
> > Or maybe we can include rec.crafts.metalworking in some of our lively
> > discussions from now on, thanks for the idea, we'll be sure to let them
> > know it was courtesy of you.
>
> Please be on notice that my personal stalkers words above are not mine.
For once I thought the little Squirrel might be on the right track,
but it was just an imposter. Darn the luck.
hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com
Hey, you're off topic and funny as hell.
Libby Loo
"Sue" <seb...@thegrid.net> wrote in message
news:bvo2m4lflgijtos5m...@4ax.com...
The whole cross-posting and off-topic posting of politics into a survival
group has really been a pain for all of us. The country, religion, race,
gender, etc. bashing is getting a bit old too. I'm sure the political
groups couldn't care less about square knots or conex containers either.
TMT made a big move in the right direction by promising to take his
off-topic politics to the proper newsgroup, Kudos to him for being the first
to make a step in the right direction. I would like to follow by showing
some restraint with regards to the the country bashing, which I may have
overdone just a bit.
Now if anyone else wants to take a step in the right direction, this would
be the time to do so since I doubt that anyone else is going to be man
enough to step up like TMT did in the future. So we can either all start the
year off right, or just continue to cross-post off-topic messages until
usenet becomes meaningless to us all. So, do we try to steer this thing back
on course or just flounder about aimlessly?
And thanks to Sue for the suggestion, Happy New Year everyone!
hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com
TMT, you've just been given vital political/survival information and
you say, "So what?"
How will you ever survive with an attitude like that?
hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com
> Can I vote for you? Alternative, will you have my love-child?
>
> --
> Regards, Curly
Too funny. Whoever this imposter is should stop. Not!
hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com
> "Curly Surmudgeon" <CurlySurmudg...@live.com> wrote in message
>
> news:496134fb$0$28198$7836...@newsrazor.net...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 13:57:59 -0600, Jeff Mc wrote:
>
> >> Obamarxist Obamaggot wrote:
>
> >>> news:45ce3811-
> > a940-4a62-9161-0ec745e70...@35g2000pry.googlegroups.com...
Ooops! I thought Squirrelly was the imposter. Too funny.
hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com
> On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 13:57:59 -0600, Jeff Mc <NoS...@NoThanks.org>
> wrote:
>
> >Obamarxist Obamaggot wrote:
> >> This election is not an I.Q. test; it is about which candidate has
> >> better judgment.
>
> >Precisely.
>
> >Bush has managed to be wrong about just about everything and everyone
> >during his two terms. His judgment is abysmal. He surrounds himself
> >with incompetent, criminal cronies, not statesmen, intellectuals and
> >leaders.
>
> General Shizuki, and Admiral Fallon spoke truth to power and got fired
> for their trouble.
>
> >He's a patsy who has been hoodwinked by everyone from bin Laden
> >to Putin to his own handlers. He lets his own VP run a competing shadow
> >administration under his nose.
>
> strut around. That is enough for Bush.
Those leather jackets were "retention" tools. Of course, you know
nothing of the military.
> >His failed economic and energy policies
> >have nearly bankrupted this nation. He has squandered America's global
> >respect, good will and moral leadership, and he's reduced us to an
> >international near-pariah state. He has failed to rise to every
> >occasion from Katrina to the mortgage crisis.
>
> And consistently blames others for his failures.
Actually, the MSM and you guys do enough blaming that I've never
noticed it coming from Bush. You do have cites, don't you?
> >Today, mostly only the
> >some of uber-wealthy are better off than they were eight years ago.
> >Bush's bad judgment has led this nation lurching and reeling from one
> >massive failure, avoidable crisis, or missed opportunity to another.
>
> >We are now a nation who tortures and imprisons people, like the worst
> >despotic regime.
>
> The fascist ultra-right.
>
> >We are now a nation that wiretaps and spies on our own
> >people, like a Communist police state.
>
> The socialist ultra-left.
Can't we all just be friends?
> I'm glad someone else sees that Bush's NeoCons embrace the worse of
> both extremes. It makes normal left-right rhetoric totally silly.
I'd like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony...
Curly Surmudgeon
--------snip--------
> I'd like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony...
Do you babble the same meaningless distractions face to face?
--
Regards, Curly
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
15 Days More of George Walker Bush Plundering the Economy
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Curly Surmudgeon
It's our nym shifting asshole John \H\/Jerry/Libby Loo/whatever. He's
incapable of holding a rational dialog so he obsesses on those with
standards and principles.
Learn to deal with the assholes of the world, it's illegal to kill them.
Gunner Asch
wrote:
Again your opinion is noted and discounted with amusement.
You seem to forget Tovarish, that this is Usenet.
hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com
> On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 18:47:56 -0800, hot-ham-and-cheese wrote:
>
> --------snip--------
>
> > I'd like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony...
>
> Do you babble the same meaningless distractions face to face?
>
> --
> Regards, Curly
I'm awaiting any honest dialogue. Got any?
Curly Surmudgeon
Plenty. You're out of luck, none for trolls.
Too_Many_Tools
Actually that is my conclusion too.
I still don't understand how both exist within the same head.
Lots of potential being wasted there Gunner...either as a political
speech writer or a great motorcycle troubleshooter.
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
>
> - Show quoted text -
LOL...I believe these are ACTUAL QUOTES from your hero.
Feel free to proudly use them as your tag lines...you and other
taxpayers are paying dearly for them.
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
> On Jan 4, 5:38 pm, Winston_Smith <not_r...@bogus.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 13:57:59 -0600, Jeff Mc <NoS...@NoThanks.org>
> > wrote:
>
> > >> This election is not an I.Q. test; it is about which candidate has
> > >> better judgment.
>
> > >Precisely.
>
> > >Bush has managed to be wrong about just about everything and everyone
>
> - Show quoted text -
In the current situation, strait jackets are "retention tools" of
choice.
TMT
Curly Surmudgeon
Hardly a speech writer, one needs at least one foot on terra firma. But
note that gunner served in combat, that doesn't give him a get out of
jail card but it does explain much of the mental illness. I've come to
pity the poor old guy, not hate him. He's in recursion, unable to break
from the mental loop he's in. Until an outside agency forces recovery he
will remain where he is, on the fringes of society looking in becoming
increasingly bitter.
Don't be too harsh, understand his plight.
Too_Many_Tools
> A Presidency is a terrible thing to waste....
>
> This is how History WILL remember George W. Bush Jr.
>
> Conservatives...feel free to use these as your taglines to your
> comments..they will only reinforce your personal comments in the eyes
> of the World.
>
> TMT
>
> Bushisms over the years
> By The Associated Press The Associated Press Sat Jan 3
>
> President George W. Bush will leave behind a legacy of Bushisms, the
> label stamped on the commander in chief's original speaking style.
> Some of the president's more notable malaprops and mangled statements:
>
>
> • "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully." —
> September 2000, explaining his energy policies at an event in
> Michigan.
>
> • "Rarely is the question asked, is our children learning?" — January
> 2000, during a campaign event in South Carolina.
>
> • "They misunderestimated the compassion of our country. I think they
> misunderestimated the will and determination of the commander in
> chief, too." — Sept. 26, 2001, in Langley, Va. Bush was referring to
> the terrorists who carried out the Sept. 11 attacks.
>
> • "There's no doubt in my mind, not one doubt in my mind, that we will
> fail." — Oct. 4, 2001, in Washington. Bush was remarking on a back-to-
> work plan after the terrorist attacks.
>
> • "It would be a mistake for the United States Senate to allow any
> kind of human cloning to come out of that chamber." — April 10, 2002,
> at the White House, as Bush urged Senate passage of a broad ban on
> cloning.
>
> • "I want to thank the dozens of welfare-to-work stories, the actual
> examples of people who made the firm and solemn commitment to work
> hard to embetter themselves." — April 18, 2002, at the White House.
>
> • "There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably
> in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool
> me — you can't get fooled again." — Sept. 17, 2002, in Nashville,
> Tenn.
>
> • "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They
> never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people,
> and neither do we." — Aug. 5, 2004, at the signing ceremony for a
> defense spending bill.
>
> • "Too many good docs are getting out of business. Too many OB/GYNs
> aren't able to practice their love with women all across this
> country." — Sept. 6, 2004, at a rally in Poplar Bluff, Mo.
>
> • "Our most abundant energy source is coal. We have enough coal to
> last for 250 years, yet coal also prevents an environmental
> challenge." — April 20, 2005, in Washington.
>
> • "We look forward to hearing your vision, so we can more better do
> our job." — Sept. 20, 2005, in Gulfport, Miss.
>
> • "I can't wait to join you in the joy of welcoming neighbors back
> into neighborhoods, and small businesses up and running, and cutting
> those ribbons that somebody is creating new jobs." — Sept. 5, 2005,
> when Bush met with residents of Poplarville, Miss., in the wake of
> Hurricane Katrina.
>
> • "It was not always a given that the United States and America would
> have a close relationship. After all, 60 years we were at war 60 years
> ago we were at war." — June 29, 2006, at the White House, where Bush
> met with Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi.
>
> • "Make no mistake about it, I understand how tough it is, sir. I talk
> to families who die." — Dec. 7, 2006, in a joint appearance with
> British Prime Minister Tony Blair.
>
> • "These are big achievements for this country, and the people of
> Bulgaria ought to be proud of the achievements that they have
> achieved." — June 11, 2007, in Sofia, Bulgaria.
>
> • "Mr. Prime Minister, thank you for your introduction. Thank you for
> being such a fine host for the OPEC summit." — September 2007, in
> Sydney, Australia, where Bush was attending an APEC summit.
>
> • "Thank you, Your Holiness. Awesome speech." April 16, 2008, at a
> ceremony welcoming Pope Benedict XVI to the White House.
>
> • "The fact that they purchased the machine meant somebody had to make
> the machine. And when somebody makes a machine, it means there's jobs
> at the machine-making place." — May 27, 2008, in Mesa, Ariz.
>
> • "And they have no disregard for human life." — July 15, 2008, at the
> White House. Bush was referring to enemy fighters in Afghanistan.
>
> • "I remember meeting a mother of a child who was abducted by the
> North Koreans right here in the Oval Office." — June 26, 2008, during
> a Rose Garden news briefing.
>
> • "Throughout our history, the words of the Declaration have inspired
> immigrants from around the world to set sail to our shores. These
> immigrants have helped transform 13 small colonies into a great and
> growing nation of more than 300 people." — July 4, 2008 in Virginia.
>
> • "The people in Louisiana must know that all across our country
> there's a lot of prayer — prayer for those whose lives have been
> turned upside down. And I'm one of them. It's good to come down here."
> — Sept. 3, 2008, at an emergency operations center in Baton Rouge,
> La., after Hurricane Gustav hit the Gulf Coast.
>
> • "This thaw — took a while to thaw, it's going to take a while to
> unthaw." Oct. 20, 2008, in Alexandria, La., as he discussed the
> economy and frozen credit markets.
And oh Gunner...we expect you to use these Bushisms as your new
taglines.
It is only right that you honor your Hero in spreading his wise
words. ;<)
And Curly...do you think these Bushisms are competition for your great
taglines? ;<))
TMT
Hawke
On Jan 4, 10:40 am, "RogerN" <re...@midwest.net> wrote:
> Did you get any new tools for Christmas?
>
> RogerN
Yep...still unpacking them.
TMT was a good boy this year and Santa delivered. ;<)
TMT
Boy, what does that tell you when even the right wingers here are saying
nothing to defend Bush. That's a hell of a change because for years they all
defended him constantly. Now even they say nothing when it's pointed out
what a boob Bush is. All of them except Gummer, who still thinks Bush was
one of America's better presidents. Which just proves that some wingers are
hopelessly stupid.
Hawke
Hawke
> > Did you get any new tools for Christmas?
> >
> > RogerN
>
> Yep...still unpacking them.
>
> TMT was a good boy this year and Santa delivered. ;<)
>
> TMT
>
> stuff :-)
>
> Be sure and let us know what Santa brought you!
>
> RogerN
I'm sure you haven't had much time for tools either. With all your posting
about God and abortion I don't see how you would have time for anything
related to metalworking.
Hawke
Hawke
> >>
> >> Yale grades portray Kerry as a lackluster student In 1999, The New
> >> Yorker published a transcript indicating that Bush had received a
> >> cumulative score of 77 for his first three years at Yale and a roughly
> >> similar average under a non-numerical rating system during his senior
> >> year.Kerry, who graduated two years before Bush, got a cumulative 76
> >> for his four years, according to a transcript that Kerry sent to the
> >> Navy when he was applying for officer training school.
> >>
> >> http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/06/07/
> yale_grades_portray_kerry_as_a_lackluster_student/
> >
> > So, you're saying that we had a choice between two sloppy, lazy,
> > ignorant assholes, and we chose Bush? I couldn't disagree. And we got
> > what we voted for.
>
> Not speaking for TMT but no, "we" had a myriad of choices however the
> sheple of both parties insisted on selecting the evilist of two lessors.
>
> Many choices were available.
Yes, it's true that there were plenty of choices for president but in
reality there were only two that had any chance of winning. So as always it
boils down to an either/or choice. Pick Gore or Bush, Kerry or Bush. Both
times more people picked Bush. Now we can see the wisdom of that judgment.
Regardless of anyone's academic record we can see Bush's record as
president. It stinks to the high heavens. The odds of either Gore or Kerry
being as bad are highly unlikely. We are only at the beginning of finding
out all the things Bush did that were wrong. When it all comes out in the
future we're going to see that picking Bush was the worst thing Americans
did in a century. So the hell with the fact Bush has an MBA from Harvard,
which I'm sure embarrasses them to no end, he sucked as a president. But the
so did his Dad and Reagan. The one common thing is that all republican
presidents hurt the country. Maybe now everyone has learned that. Except for
southern white men, who never seem to learn anything.
Hawke
Hawke
"Winston_Smith" <not_...@bogus.net> wrote in message
news:tmb2m4tf9ti56mmdo...@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 13:23:54 -0800, Gunner Asch
> <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>
> >Your opinion, and the buffoonery it shows, is noted once again with
> >amusement
> >
> >Gunner
>
>
That's the least of his problems. I think he's been around toxic industrial
gasses for so long that his brain is badly damaged. Anyone that is unable to
see the disaster that Bush has brought to the country is obviously mentally
impaired. We ought to be taking up a collection to have him
institutionalized. He's clearly gone round the bend.
Hawke
Curly Surmudgeon
>> >> Yale grades portray Kerry as a lackluster student In 1999, The New
>> >> Yorker published a transcript indicating that Bush had received a
>> >> cumulative score of 77 for his first three years at Yale and a
>> >> roughly similar average under a non-numerical rating system during
>> >> his senior year.Kerry, who graduated two years before Bush, got a
>> >> cumulative 76 for his four years, according to a transcript that
>> >> Kerry sent to the Navy when he was applying for officer training
>> >> school.
>> >>
>> >> http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/06/07/
>> yale_grades_portray_kerry_as_a_lackluster_student/
>> >
>> > So, you're saying that we had a choice between two sloppy, lazy,
>> > ignorant assholes, and we chose Bush? I couldn't disagree. And we got
>> > what we voted for.
>>
>> Not speaking for TMT but no, "we" had a myriad of choices however the
>> sheple of both parties insisted on selecting the evilist of two
>> lessors.
>>
>> Many choices were available.
>
> Yes, it's true that there were plenty of choices for president but in
> reality there were only two that had any chance of winning.
Only among those who swallow the lesser of two evils paradigm. If you
vote for anyone other than your absolute best choice then you've
prostituted your life, libery and pursuit of happiness.
> So as always
> it boils down to an either/or choice. Pick Gore or Bush, Kerry or Bush.
> Both times more people picked Bush. Now we can see the wisdom of that
> judgment. Regardless of anyone's academic record we can see Bush's
> record as president. It stinks to the high heavens.
Extreme agreement.
> The odds of either
> Gore or Kerry being as bad are highly unlikely. We are only at the
> beginning of finding out all the things Bush did that were wrong. When
> it all comes out in the future we're going to see that picking Bush was
> the worst thing Americans did in a century. So the hell with the fact
> Bush has an MBA from Harvard, which I'm sure embarrasses them to no end,
> he sucked as a president. But the so did his Dad and Reagan. The one
> common thing is that all republican presidents hurt the country. Maybe
> now everyone has learned that. Except for southern white men, who never
> seem to learn anything.
>
> Hawke
Yes, perhaps the sheple will cease voting for _any_ lesser candidate.
And pigs will fly...
Curly Surmudgeon
I have a list of bushisms but every time I read them I simultaneously cry
and hoot with uncontrollable laughter. Maybe in a couple of weeks when
the current tagline is no longer needed.
hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com
> On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 03:47:06 -0800, hot-ham-and-cheese wrote:
> > On Jan 4, 11:26 pm, Curly Surmudgeon <CurlySurmudg...@live.com> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 18:47:56 -0800, hot-ham-and-cheese wrote:
>
> >> --------snip--------
>
> >> > I'd like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony...
>
> >> Do you babble the same meaningless distractions face to face?
>
> >> --
> >> Regards, Curly
>
> > I'm awaiting any honest dialogue. Got any?
>
> Plenty. You're out of luck, none for trolls.
In other words, you have none. Got it.
hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com
So you aren't a taxpayer. Figures.
Curly Surmudgeon
Got what, disdain for your lies? Yup.
Too_Many_Tools
>
> - Show quoted text -
LOL...some of us are willling to take an tax increase to get rid of
George Bush...surprised?
TMT
hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com
Nothing you do or claim surprises me. Nothing. You're a kook.
Libby Loo
"Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:aab8daf0-84d5-44d3...@v39g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
You actually need to pay some tax before you can pay an increased amount.
Strabo
> On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:39:36 -0800, Sue wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:27:09 -0600, "Curly Smurffucker"
>> <gur...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Well ok, those are very good points. One can also make the point that
>>> politics can have a lot to do with metalworking too! As an example, I
>>> didn't buy a new drill press based on Obama being elected. Thanks for
>>> opening my eyes to the possibility, I'll make sure that they know it was
>>> all your idea!
>> Would whomever is doing this please stop the nonsense. It's just
>> ridiculous and my killfile is getting filled up. OK, there's no max
>> capacity so far as I know, but you're being a damned nuisance. Sue
>
> It's our nym shifting asshole John \H\/Jerry/Libby Loo/whatever. He's
> incapable of holding a rational dialog so he obsesses on those with
> standards and principles.
>
> Learn to deal with the assholes of the world, it's illegal to kill them.
>
No, it's illegal to -murder- them. You may kill for cause all you
like.
Strabo
> Obamarxist Obamaggot wrote:
>>
>> A Presidency is a terrible thing to waste....
>>
>> In 1999, The New Yorker published a transcript indicating that Bush
>> had received a cumulative score of 77 for his first three years at
>> Yale and a roughly similar average under a non-numerical rating system
>> When will the liberal media stop treating left-wing ideology as a
>> proxy for intelligence? For months the press has questioned the
>> intellect of Republican candidate George W. Bush, while describing Al
>> Gore as "serious," "intellectual" - even "wonkish."
> [snip]
>> Of course, the stereotyping of conservative candidates as dumb and
>> liberal candidates as "brilliant" is nothing new.
> [snip]
>> In the end, neither intellect nor academic performance is an
>> especially important criterion by which to judge our presidents.
> [snip]
>> better judgment.
>
> Precisely.
>
> Bush has managed to be wrong about just about everything and everyone
> with incompetent, criminal cronies, not statesmen, intellectuals and
> respect, good will and moral leadership, and he's reduced us to an
> international near-pariah state. He has failed to rise to every
> Bush's bad judgment has led this nation lurching and reeling from one
> massive failure, avoidable crisis, or missed opportunity to another.
>
> We are now a nation who tortures and imprisons people, like the worst
> regularly go, hat in hand, to wealthier nations, begging for more credit
> to prop up our faltering economy, like some bankrupt banana republic.
>
> That's George W.Bush's legacy.
>
That will be his legacy though he was merely the front man of
a continuing Socialist onslaught. The infamous Patriot Act
(twice updated), Military Commissions Act, PD51, the signing
statement sham, Pentagon coup, world-wide renditions, trillions
of missing dollars and kickbacks, NAFTA and the Hemispheric 'treaty'
alliance, the privatization of the US military, the unitary presidency,
are some of the losses Americans will experience. *None of this* could
have happened without a big hand from a Republican and Democratic
Congress and a blind SCOTUS.
And this is the beginning. The next saboteur will utilize the Bush
legacy and expand all areas with relish, adding to the list - global
taxation, gun bans, RFID ID, 'hate' crime legislation, and much,
much more.
>
> Jeff Mc
>
Gunner Asch
wrote:
Getting the jury to feel your cause was a good one is the hard part..
most of them arent Texas juries, where a "he needed killin" works