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LOL..oh look ANOTHER STATE SIGNS TOUGHER GUN LAWS!!!!!...and the NRA gets its ass kicked AGAIN!!!!

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Too_Many_Tools

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May 17, 2013, 1:01:32 AM5/17/13
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LOL...strange how the gun loons didn't mention that Maryland just
signed TOUGHER gun laws!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And the NRA...they got their ass handed to them...AGAIN!!!

Laugh..laugh..laugh...

TMT

Md. governor signs tougher gun-control bill

Md. governor signs gun-control bill with fingerprint licensing; NRA to
challenge
By Brian Witte, Associated Press | Associated Press –

ANNAPOLIS, Md. (AP) -- Gov. Martin O'Malley signed a gun-control
measure on Thursday to give Maryland some of the nation's tightest gun
laws and the National Rifle Association plans to challenge it in
court.

Part of the law requires people to submit fingerprints to the state
police to get a license to buy a handgun.

"States with similar licensing provisions have substantially lower gun
death rates than states that do not, so if we want better results we
have to make better choices, and this legislation is part of that
series of the better choices that we are making," O'Malley said.

The other states include New Jersey, New York, Massachusetts,
Connecticut and Hawaii.

O'Malley, a Democrat, proposed the bill in January in response to the
December shooting in Newtown, Conn., where a gunman killed 20 children
and six adults.

Opponents are backing the NRA's plans to file a lawsuit. Delegate Neil
Parrott of Washington County has led petition drives to put
legislation on the ballot for voters to decide in recent years. He has
announced he supports court action rather than trying to overturn the
law in a referendum.

"The National Rifle Association's position and concerns will be made
very clear when we file our lawsuit," Jacqueline Otto, an NRA
spokeswoman, said in an email.

Meanwhile, Marylanders to Prevent Gun Violence plan to launch a
campaign to highlight the effectiveness of the law, which takes effect
Oct. 1. The group is set to air television ads Monday.

"The ads will reinforce the fact that this law will save lives," said
Vincent DeMarco, the president of the group.

The measure bans 45 types of assault weapons, but people who own them
now will be able to keep them. Gun magazines will be limited to 10
bullets. It also bans gun ownership by people who have been
involuntarily committed to a mental health facility.

In addition, Maryland State Police will be able to suspend the
licenses of gun dealers who fail to comply with new record-keeping
obligations. The provision will allow the state police to supplement
enforcement efforts of the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco,
Firearms and Explosives. The measure also requires mandatory reporting
to law enforcement of lost or stolen firearms.

Earlier this month, Attorney General Doug Gansler released a 25-page
legal review expressing confidence the law is constitutional and
legally defensible.

The O'Malley administration also highlighted what the measure does not
do. For example, it does not require additional licensing procedures
for hunting rifles and shotguns. It also doesn't require companies who
manufacture assault weapons in Maryland to stop production. The
measure also does not require current lawful gun owners to
retroactively obtain a license.

Too_Many_Tools

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May 17, 2013, 2:14:50 PM5/17/13
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LAUGH..LAUGH..LAUGH....

The NRA gun loons are in shock!!!!!!!!!

They have NOTHING to say as TOUGHER GUN LAWS continue to be
passed!!!!!!

LAUGH..LAUGH..LAUGH...

TMT

Too_Many_Tools

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May 18, 2013, 7:35:27 AM5/18/13
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> TMT- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

LAUGH..LAUGH..LAUGH....

The NRA gun loons are STILL in shock!!!!!!!!!

Wayne

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May 18, 2013, 9:47:25 PM5/18/13
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Are you not in the least bit concerned by the government overreach
involved?
This is a precedent for the government to do any damned thing it
wants with impunity.

RogerN

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May 18, 2013, 10:17:18 PM5/18/13
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"Wayne" wrote in message
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>On Thu, 16 May 2013 22:01:32 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
><too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> LOL...strange how the gun loons didn't mention that Maryland just
>> signed TOUGHER gun laws!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
>> And the NRA...they got their ass handed to them...AGAIN!!!
>
>
>> Laugh..laugh..laugh...
>
>
>> TMT
>
>
<snip>
>> The O'Malley administration also highlighted what the measure does
>not
>> do. For example, it does not require additional licensing procedures
>> for hunting rifles and shotguns. It also doesn't require companies
>who
>> manufacture assault weapons in Maryland to stop production. The
>> measure also does not require current lawful gun owners to
>> retroactively obtain a license.
>
>Are you not in the least bit concerned by the government overreach
>involved?
>This is a precedent for the government to do any damned thing it wants with
>impunity.

TMT's just a troll who's only goal in life is to piss people off. I hope he
succeeds and someone kills him and his closest loved ones, he deserves it.

Meanwhile, some truth comes out.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2013/05/14/disarming-realities-as-gun-sales-soar-gun-crimes-plummet/

Disarming Realities: As Gun Sales Soar, Gun Crimes Plummet

EAST WINDSOR, CT - DECEMBER 21: The Riverview...
(Image credit: Getty Images via @daylife)

A couple of new studies reveal the gun-control hypesters' worst
nightmare.more people are buying firearms, while firearm-related homicides
and suicides are steadily diminishing. What crackpots came up with these
conclusions? One set of statistics was compiled by the U.S. Department of
Justice. The other was reported by the Pew Research Center.

According to DOJ's Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. gun-related homicides
dropped 39 percent over the course of 18 years, from 18,253 during 1993, to
11,101 in 2011. During the same period, non-fatal firearm crimes decreased
even more, a whopping 69 percent. The majority of those declines in both
categories occurred during the first 10 years of that time frame. Firearm
homicides declined from 1993 to 1999, rose through 2006, and then declined
again through 2011. Non-fatal firearm violence declined from 1993 through
2004, then fluctuated in the mid-to-late 2000s.

And where did the bad people who did the shooting get most of their guns?
Were those gun show "loopholes" responsible? Nope. According to surveys DOJ
conducted of state prison inmates during 2004 (the most recent year of data
available), only two percent who owned a gun at the time of their offense
bought it at either a gun show or flea market. About 10 percent said they
purchased their gun from a retail shop or pawnshop, 37 percent obtained it
from family or friends, and another 40 percent obtained it from an illegal
source.

While firearm violence accounted for about 70 percent of all homicides
between 1993 and 2011, guns were used in less than 10 percent of all
non-fatal violent crimes. Between 70 percent and 80 percent of those firearm
homicides involved a handgun, and 90 percent of non-fatal firearm
victimizations were committed with a handgun. Males, blacks, and persons
aged 18-24 had the highest firearm homicide rates.

The March Pew study, drawn from numbers obtained from the Bureau of Justice
Statistics and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, also found a
dramatic drop in gun crime over the past two decades. Their accounting shows
a 49 percent decline in the homicide rate, and a 75 percent decline of
non-fatal violent crime victimization. More than 8 in 10 gun homicide
victims in 2010 were men and boys. Fifty-five percent of the homicide
victims were black, far beyond their 13 percent share of the population.

Pew researchers observed that the huge amount of attention devoted to gun
violence incidents in the media has caused most Americans to be unaware that
gun crime is "strikingly down" from 20 years ago. In fact, gun-related
homicides in the late 2000s were "equal to those not seen since the early
1960s." Yet their survey found that 56 percent believed gun-related crime is
higher, 26 percent believed it stayed about the same, and 6 percent didn't
know. Only 12 percent of those polled thought it was lower.

The Pew survey found that while women and elderly were actually less likely
to become crime victims, they were more likely to believe gun crime had
increased in recent years. On the other hand, men, who were more likely to
become victims, were more likely know that the gun rate had dropped.

Those gun crime rates certainly aren't diminishing for lack of supply.at
least not for law-abiding legal buyers. Last December, the FBI recorded a
record number of 2.78 million background checks for purchases that month,
surpassing a 2.01 million mark set the month before by about 39 percent.
That December 2012 figure, in turn, was up 49 percent from a previous record
on that month the year before. FBI checks for all of 2012 totaled 19.6
million, an annual record, and an increase of 19 percent over 2011.

Firearms sellers can thank the gun-control legislation lobbies for much of
this business windfall. Marked demand increases have been witnessed over the
past five years thanks to the 2008 and 2012 elections of U.S. history's most
successful, if unintentional, gun salesman as president. The firearms market
got a huge added boost after the tragic shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary
School in Newton, Connecticut activated a renewed legislative frenzy.

If that gun-purchasing fervor has abated with the defeat of several
congressional regulation proposals, as I'm sure it has, you surely wouldn't
have known it by witnessing the overwhelmingly enormous annual NRA
convention in Houston earlier this month. Attendance was estimated to be
more than 70,000 people from all over the country.

Those attendees weren't all guys either.not by a long shot. Last year, the
National Shooting Sports Foundation reported that participation by women
increased both in target shooting (46.5%) and hunting (36.6%) over the past
decade. Also, 61% of firearm retailers responding to a NSSF survey reported
an increase in female customers. A 2009 NSSF survey indicated that the
number of women purchasing guns for personal defense increased a whopping 83
percent.

Is John Lott, the author of "More Guns, Less Crime" right? Does the rapid
growth of gun ownership and armed citizens have anything to do with a
diminishing gun violence trend? His expansive research concludes that state
"shall issue" laws which allow citizens to carry concealed weapons do
produce a steady decrease in violent crime. He explains that this is logical
because criminals are deterred by the risk of attacking an armed target, so
as more citizens arm themselves, danger to the criminals increases.

Whether or not you buy that reasoning, and it does make sense to me, what
about the notion that tougher gun laws have or would make any difference?
With the toughest gun laws in the nation, Chicago saw homicides jump to 513
in 2012, a 15% hike in a single year. The city's murder rate is 15.65 per
100,000 people, compared with 4.5 for the Midwest, and 5.6 for Illinois.

Up to 80 percent of Chicago murders and non-fatal shootings are gang-
related, primarily young black and Hispanic men killed by other black and
Hispanic men. Would tightening gun laws even more, or "requiring" background
checks, change these conditions?

Gwainevere Catchings Hess, president of the Black Women's Agenda (BWA),
Inc., an organization that strongly advocates strict gun-control
legislation, rightly points out that "In 2009, black males ages 15-19 were
eight times as likely as white males the same age, and 2.5 times as likely
as their Hispanic peers to be killed in a gun homicide."

Those are terrible statistics, but here are some others. Today, 72% of black
children are born out of wedlock, as are 53% of Hispanic children and 36% of
white children. Back in 1965, 25% of black children were born out of
wedlock, nearly one-third fewer. As a result, promiscuous rappers,
prosperous dope peddlers and street gang leaders are becoming ever more
influential role models. It's probably no big stretch of imagination to
correlate such grossly disproportionate crime and victimization rates with
comparably staggering rates of single-parent families, those without fathers
in particular.

Yet in the general population, and although the agenda-driven media hasn't
noticed, we can be grateful that gun violence has been trending downward
since 1993 when it hit its last peak. Don't want to credit a rise in gun
ownership and concealed carry by law-abiding citizens for this good news?
Fine. But then, don't imagine that gun legislation is the reason or answer
either. Leave that illusion to gun-control cheerleaders in the media.


Gunner Asch

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May 18, 2013, 10:58:16 PM5/18/13
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On Sat, 18 May 2013 21:17:18 -0500, "RogerN" <re...@midwest.net>
wrote:

>
>TMT's just a troll who's only goal in life is to piss people off. I hope he
>succeeds and someone kills him and his closest loved ones, he deserves it.

Oh..you can rest assured that is a given.


--
"You guess the truth hurts?

Really?

"Hurt" aint the word.

For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
Sunlight to a vampire.
Raid® to a cockroach.
Sheriff Brody to a shark
Bush to a Liberal

The truth doesn't just hurt. It's painful, like a red hot poker shoved
up their ass. Like sliding down a hundred foot razor blade using their
dick as a brake.

They HATE the truth."

GOP_Decline_and_Fall

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May 19, 2013, 12:17:54 AM5/19/13
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On Sat, 18 May 2013 19:58:16 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Sat, 18 May 2013 21:17:18 -0500, "RogerN" <re...@midwest.net>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>TMT's just a troll who's only goal in life is to piss people off. I hope he
>>succeeds and someone kills him and his closest loved ones, he deserves it.
>
>Oh..you can rest assured that is a given.

It's a given that other posters' children and partners will be
murdered is it?

Seek psychiatric help.

Flint

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May 19, 2013, 12:37:17 AM5/19/13
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On 5/17/2013 2:14 PM, Too_Many_Tools wrote:
> On May 17, 12:01 am, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> LOL...strange how the gun loons didn't mention that Maryland just
>> signed TOUGHER gun laws!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> And the NRA...they got their ass handed to them...AGAIN!!!
>>
>> Laugh..laugh..laugh...
>>
>> TMT
>>
>> Md. governor signs tougher gun-control bill
>>
>> Md. governor signs gun-control bill with fingerprint licensing; NRA to
>> challenge
>> By Brian Witte, Associated Press | Associated Press �
Not true. Given that this law is a state law, and I support gun laws
being in the realm of the states, and that the outlined restriction
exemptions seem to be there, I see nothing with Md. passing such a
law. No U.S. Constitutional issue involved here whatsoever.

Now as to what the Md. >voters< think, that is another matter
entirely. We'll see if it costs O'Malley and state legislators next
election cycle. But as I said, this is an enterly different matter.

--
MFB

RogerN

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May 19, 2013, 1:05:58 AM5/19/13
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"GOP_Decline_and_Fall" wrote in message
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Right after children were murdered at Sandy Hook elementary, TMT suggested
that their heads be mounted and hung on the wall. Liberals are Godless,
they chose their own morals, if they think it's OK to mount the heads of
murdered children on the wall, it's up to them. If TMT thinks it's OK to
abuse these children's death for his trolling, I hope he's treated like he
treats others, the golden rule!

RogerN


GOP_Decline_and_Fall

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May 19, 2013, 1:52:40 AM5/19/13
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On Sun, 19 May 2013 00:05:58 -0500, "RogerN" <re...@midwest.net>
wrote:
I never realized the golden rule involved folk like you hoping
critics' family and children were murdered.

What a foul blasphemous travesty of Christianity you practice.

RogerN

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May 19, 2013, 2:38:52 AM5/19/13
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"GOP_Decline_and_Fall" wrote in message
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>On Sun, 19 May 2013 00:05:58 -0500, "RogerN" <re...@midwest.net>
>wrote:
>
<snip>
>>>Seek psychiatric help.
>>
>>Right after children were murdered at Sandy Hook elementary, TMT suggested
>>that their heads be mounted and hung on the wall. Liberals are Godless,
>>they chose their own morals, if they think it's OK to mount the heads of
>>murdered children on the wall, it's up to them. If TMT thinks it's OK to
>>abuse these children's death for his trolling, I hope he's treated like he
>>treats others, the golden rule!
>>
>>RogerN
>
>I never realized the golden rule involved folk like you hoping
>critics' family and children were murdered.
>
>What a foul blasphemous travesty of Christianity you practice.

You never realized lots of things, that's why you're a liberal, you haven't
came to realization.

The golden rule is to treat others as you want to be treated. TMT uses that
which is a tragedy to parents and children as an opportunity for hate speech
trolling, completely insensitive to those who suffered such a loss. If
that's the way TMT treats others, then that's the way he should be treated.
TMT's goal is to piss people off with these trolling posts he does, what's
wrong with me wishing him success at what he's trying to do?

I ran across this today - It's so ironic how God brings things around, in
1974 Hillary Clinton was asking what the President knew and when he knew it.
In 2013, Hillary is asked the same question and her reply was "what
difference does it make". For Hillary, the difference is if she's
questioning a scandal or defending a scandal.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BKFJlBtCcAI-JEA.jpg

RogerN


GOP_Decline_and_Fall

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May 19, 2013, 3:02:50 AM5/19/13
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On Sun, 19 May 2013 01:38:52 -0500, "RogerN" <re...@midwest.net>
wrote:

>"GOP_Decline_and_Fall" wrote in message
>news:vspgp81jgc9h7keas...@4ax.com...
>
>>On Sun, 19 May 2013 00:05:58 -0500, "RogerN" <re...@midwest.net>
>>wrote:
>>
><snip>
>>>>Seek psychiatric help.
>>>
>>>Right after children were murdered at Sandy Hook elementary, TMT suggested
>>>that their heads be mounted and hung on the wall. Liberals are Godless,
>>>they chose their own morals, if they think it's OK to mount the heads of
>>>murdered children on the wall, it's up to them. If TMT thinks it's OK to
>>>abuse these children's death for his trolling, I hope he's treated like he
>>>treats others, the golden rule!
>>>
>>>RogerN
>>
>>I never realized the golden rule involved folk like you hoping
>>critics' family and children were murdered.
>>
>>What a foul blasphemous travesty of Christianity you practice.
>
>You never realized lots of things, that's why you're a liberal, you haven't
>came to realization.
>
>The golden rule is to treat others as you want to be treated.

Exactly.
So presumably you have children and loved ones you wish to be
murdered?

Of course not.

What you advocate is the total opposite of the golden rule.

Gunner is obviously a severely disturbed sociopath but, as a
self-professed Christian,what is your excuse?

>TMT uses that which is a tragedy to parents and children as an opportunity for hate speech
>trolling, completely insensitive to those who suffered such a loss.

That would be you .


> If
>that's the way TMT treats others, then that's the way he should be treated.
>TMT's goal is to piss people off with these trolling posts he does, what's
>wrong with me wishing him success at what he's trying to do?\

As a Christian you should know.


>
>I ran across this today - It's so ironic how God brings things around, in
>1974 Hillary Clinton was asking what the President knew and when he knew it.
>In 2013, Hillary is asked the same question and her reply was "what
>difference does it make". For Hillary, the difference is if she's
>questioning a scandal or defending a scandal.
>
>https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BKFJlBtCcAI-JEA.jpg
>

The only scandal is the GOP altering the text of released emails to
try to create a false scandal..just like the screeching about the IRS
when they are caught with their hand in the cash register.

Scout

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So the 14th Amendment means nothing then?



Gunner Asch

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May 19, 2013, 4:14:35 AM5/19/13
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On Sun, 19 May 2013 00:05:58 -0500, "RogerN" <re...@midwest.net>
wrote:

Oh..he most certainly will be. And perhaps his head will wind up on
a wall somewhere. Probably not neatly mounted and
stuffed...shrug...more likely stuck up with a big spike or on the
picket of a nice sharp fence. But...it WIll happen.
Count on it.

pyotr filipivich

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May 19, 2013, 4:32:42 AM5/19/13
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"RogerN" <re...@midwest.net> on Sun, 19 May 2013 01:38:52 -0500 typed
in misc.survivalism the following:
>
>>I never realized the golden rule involved folk like you hoping
>>critics' family and children were murdered.
>>
>>What a foul blasphemous travesty of Christianity you practice.
>
>You never realized lots of things, that's why you're a liberal, you haven't
>came to realization.
>
>The golden rule is to treat others as you want to be treated. TMT uses that
>which is a tragedy to parents and children as an opportunity for hate speech
>trolling, completely insensitive to those who suffered such a loss. If
>that's the way TMT treats others, then that's the way he should be treated.
>TMT's goal is to piss people off with these trolling posts he does, what's
>wrong with me wishing him success at what he's trying to do?
>
>I ran across this today - It's so ironic how God brings things around, in
>1974 Hillary Clinton was asking what the President knew and when he knew it.

In 1974, Hilary Clinton was fired from the staff of the Watergate
commission for unethical behavior.
>In 2013, Hillary is asked the same question and her reply was "what
>difference does it make". For Hillary, the difference is if she's
>questioning a scandal or defending a scandal.
>
>https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BKFJlBtCcAI-JEA.jpg
>
>RogerN
>
--
pyotr filipivich.
Just about the time you finally see light at the end of the tunnel,
you find out it's a Government Project to build more tunnel.

Stormin Mormon

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May 19, 2013, 7:38:36 AM5/19/13
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The liberals I've met, tend to believe that when
the government stops killing off conservatives,
that the government will just go idle, and then
the liberals can all live in peace, love, joy and
free love.

Conservatives believe that everyone will be killed
off, the government won't just stop at the end of
the conservatives.
.
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.
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RogerN

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May 19, 2013, 4:08:45 PM5/19/13
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"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
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>On Sun, 19 May 2013 00:05:58 -0500, "RogerN" <re...@midwest.net>
>wrote:
>
<snip>
>>Right after children were murdered at Sandy Hook elementary, TMT suggested
>>that their heads be mounted and hung on the wall. Liberals are Godless,
>>they chose their own morals, if they think it's OK to mount the heads of
>>murdered children on the wall, it's up to them. If TMT thinks it's OK to
>>abuse these children's death for his trolling, I hope he's treated like he
>>treats others, the golden rule!
>>
>>RogerN
>>
>Oh..he most certainly will be. And perhaps his head will wind up on
>a wall somewhere. Probably not neatly mounted and
>stuffed...shrug...more likely stuck up with a big spike or on the
>picket of a nice sharp fence. But...it WIll happen.
>Count on it.

I read an article about this governor signing tougher gun laws before TMT
did this troll post.

In their state, there were only 2 gun deaths attributed to any kind of rifle
in 2011.

Will this governor help his career by sucking Obama cock or will he suffer
the wrath of voters that got their 2nd amendment rights infringed for law
that solves a non-existent problem?

Our founding fathers would have put this kind of scum in prison or the
grave.

RogerN


WangoTango

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May 20, 2013, 4:05:42 PM5/20/13
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In article <almarsoft.2457...@news.eternal-september.org>,
mygarb...@verizon.net says...
>
> Are you not in the least bit concerned by the government overreach
> involved?
> This is a precedent for the government to do any damned thing it
> wants with impunity.
>
>
Nope, they are just interested that their personal agenda is being
implemented. They will not be so happy when the tables are turned.
Once the monster realizes it can get away with any type of control it
wants, there will be no limit to the control it will take.

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