Should I move to Idaho?
Gunner Asch
largest economy in the world. No longer. Its the #3 hardest hit state
in the looming Great Depression Part Deux, only behind Michigan with
its Rust Belt.
And Im not getting any work in my current trade, machine tool repair.
So Ive been looking around a bit at other states for employment..and
Id like to ask you folks for your input.
Some prelims...
Im 56yrs old, had some medical issues, now largely resolved.
Im tecnically oriented and can troubleshoot electrionics at assembly
level, machine, lathe and mill, can fix complex mechanical assemblies,
can weld, do woodworking, gunsmithing, can do commecial and industrial
electricial. Ive worked as a lumberjack, oil field roughneck etc etc
etc.
Frankly...there isnt much that I cant do. I detest retail work, paper
work, suit and tie work. Im honest, motivated, self starter,
experinced in job requirements and meeting them. I deal well with
others and can supervise others well. However..Ive spent my life
working as an individual technician and dont fit well in a herd.
Shrug. Im good at what I do..far too many out there simply sucking on
the paycheck.
Give me a task, tell me where the parts are..and go away. Ill finish
the job and ask for another.
So anyways..Ive been considering moving out of California..after being
here for 30+ yrs.
Idaho is simply one of the states Im considering but the one Im
focused on at the moment.
If anyone has suggestions for other states..feel free to toss em
in..Id be happy to look at them.
I figure Im good for another 15-20 yrs working. Shrug
So anyone have any good or bad things to say about Idaho? Its
economy, chances for growth and employment and so forth.
Im interested in perhaps moving out of California...heading anyplace
that I can prosper enough to keep myself and my family alive and
eating regularly.
Anyone?
Im not moving tommorow, next week or next month. Next
year...shrug...gotta have someplace to go, before figuring out how to
get there.
Gunner
hal
<gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>Anyone?
some nice Aryan Nations compounds in northern Idaho that should make
you feel right at home.
>Gunner
Strabo
Texas. It's a natural fit.
>
>
> Gunner
Jim Wilkins
> ...
> Anyone?
>
> Gunner
Grand Rapids, Michigan.
Scott
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<plonk>
Scott
"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
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Depends, there are a lot of opportunites, but the wages suck.
Hit Craigslist and the Idaho Employment website for an idea.
robert bowman
> some nice Aryan Nations compounds in northern Idaho that should make
> you feel right at home.
That got sued out of existence by the Keenans, backed by the SPLC, in 2000.
It's a peace park now.
robert bowman
> So anyone have any good or bad things to say about Idaho? Its
> economy, chances for growth and employment and so forth.
Depending on the area, you might find yourself neck deep in Stormin's
co-religionists. They're mostly good people, but some doors may be closed
to a gentile.
Boise is nice for a city that size, but it tends to rise and fall with the
semiconductor industry. The I15 and I84 corridors are where most of the
money is. The panhandle is nicer, IMHO, if you can live on scenery.
Ever read any of John Wesley, Rawles's stuff or his blog? He's big on north
central ID.
The parts of ID that I am most familiar with have a lot of trees, game, and
fish, but not much else unless you want to do a Sylvan Hart.
HH&C
Plenty of skinny dippin to do in all those hot springs.
Steve B
"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote
> Im interested in perhaps moving out of California...heading anyplace
> that I can prosper enough to keep myself and my family alive and
> eating regularly.
>
> Anyone?
>
> Im not moving tommorow, next week or next month. Next
> year...shrug...gotta have someplace to go, before figuring out how to
> get there.
>
>
>
> Gunner
Don't know anything about Idaho, but I like Utah. Not a great state for
machinery, or manufacturing, but it's all in the attitude of the person. I
do know that there's a different mindset in Idaho and Utah that are
contagious once one's been here any length of time. Makes you just deal
with whatever happens, because you never want to go back to You Know Where.
I live in rural Utah, and I see about one black person a month. Some
Hispanics. I figure the tsunami is coming, but for now, it's refreshing. I
hear about one boom box in a car a week, and that always has a California
plate and a local cop on their tail.
I still have to go down to Vegas for business, and I carry a gun, mace, and
a police scanner all the time. Around here, stupid people seem to self
destruct in a short time, are found (or not found) dead in the woods from
hunting accidents, or just beaten by the local Bubbas until they move on.
You don't have long left. Decide whether you want to make money or live
life. There's a difference, ya know?
Steve
Tim Wescott
> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:03:19 -0800, Gunner Asch
> <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>
>>California is dying as an industrial power. It at one time was the 7th
>>largest economy in the world. No longer. Its the #3 hardest hit state in
>>the looming Great Depression Part Deux, only behind Michigan with its
>>Rust Belt.
>>
>>And Im not getting any work in my current trade, machine tool repair.
>>
>>So Ive been looking around a bit at other states for employment..and Id
>>like to ask you folks for your input.
>
> You just listed a whole bunch of excuses about why you couldn't take a
> job offer from your friend Tom a couple of days ago. One of them was
> that you had too many things holding you to California. What happened
> in two days to change that?
>
> Stay out of Idaho. There are good decent people in Idaho and they don't
> deserve it.
Dangit, I was going to suggest Texas on the grounds that it's further
from Oregon, but there's decent people there, too.
I hear that Iran is pretty conservative these days. Anyone who
criticizes G.W. as a "western liberal" should be just Gunner's cup of tea.
Wait -- there's some decent people in Iran, too.
Rick
"Jim Wilkins" <kb1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Grand Rapids, Michigan.
I second that....
RAM�
news:mC%Om.11149$cX4....@newsfe10.iad...
>
> Texas. It's a natural fit.
>
>
That it is.
"The Patch" is still active, small entrepreneurs are opening machine shops
and companies that use machinery, etc.
Local regs may require a Master Electrician's cert for wiring, though...
BTW, NO State Income Tax and it's a Right To Work state! <grin>
Stupendous Man
of the state. I understand that many in other states don't like
Californians, but the ones they meet are quitters. We don't need them here
either.
--
Stupendous Man,
Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
Steve B
"RAM�" <S31924...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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Yes, Texas does have a lot going for it. And it is like California in that
it has three distinct geographical regions, so different from each other
that you think you're in another part of the world. But yes, with the oil
patch, no state income, and work mentality that's based on performance and a
handshake, Gunner, it sounds more like a fit than Idaho. Just take a large
flyswatter for the skeeters in some places. Other than that, nice folks
scattered among the trash. Just like California, only with an accent.
You'll be saying y'all in no time. And Louisiana is right next door, and a
lot of that oilpatch business is available within a few hours drive on the
Interstate. For what you want to do, I'd say that it is better than Idaho,
and a hell of a lot warmer.
Steve
hal
Texas would be OK if it wasn't full of Texans.
Do you know how they bury Texans?
They let out all the hot air and bullshit and put them in a shoebox.
Steve B
<hal> wrote in message news:4b0cb582...@news.newsguy.com...
One question .......... have you ever lived in Texas?
Steve
Lib Loo
"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
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Alabama. With all of the car manufacturing that has moved there, it is the
next Detroit, without all of the poverty. Should be plenty of business for a
man with your talents. Plus deer season is several months long.
Alabama 2009 - 2010 Deer Season Dates
Bow Hunting - Oct 15th - Jan 31st
Muzzleloaders - Nov 16th - Nov 20th
Gun Season - Nov 21st - Jan 31st
Lib Loo
"Lib Loo" <heez...@crazymother.kom> wrote in message
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cavelamb
Of course not...
Don Foreman
<gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>Gunner
I don't know jack about Idaho, but perhaps your focus should be on
what rather than where.
You can do commercial and industrial electrical, but only as a scab
and that can be hard work even when scab work is available. It
obviously isn't. If you can repair complex mechanical assemblies,
you've opted not to fix your own truck so that obviously doesn't
appeal to you. You may be able to troubleshoot electronics, but I
rather doubt that you can do it better than zit-faced eager hungry
young techs with recent training, young families, strong motivation
and willingness to tolerate whatever crap they must for a paycheck.
You ain't gonna be a lumberjack or oilfield roughneck at age 60 and
beyond.
Your most consistent interest and passion has to do with guns. If
you're really serious about a new course, I'd say build on that. You
know guns and their use, you can respect people who respect guns, and
you have at least rudimentary skills in machining and smithing. The
people most likely to be tolerant of your idiosyncrasies are those who
appreciate and covet fine firearms and will pay handsomely to have
them made for them. There are people with money to spend even in
recessions. Hell, you know how nuts sales of AR-15's has been since
the election, even in a down economy.
A few men with modest lathes, some tooling and considerable skills who
can craft rifles that win BR matches and/or craft pistols that are
exquisite in design and function have far more work than they can do
even in the present economy and perhaps especially at present. They
can live where ever they want and most do live in rural to remote
locales. Age doesn't matter, nor does physical frailty that
inevitably accompanies advancing age. You say you're good for another
15 to 20 and maybe you are, but I'll note that being 68 is definitely
different from being 56. YMMV.
Gunner Asch
Smack in the middle of the Rust Belt? Tell me why.
Gunner, raised in the UP and in Grayling, Michigan.
Beryl
I have. Hal's characterization is accurate, and Texas is a proper place
for gummer.
Gunner Asch
Alabama is on my "Look at list". Thanks!
Gunner
Gunner Asch
One thing Im concerned about ..Ive lived in California for 30 yrs...in
the high desert, where the humidity is hardly ever above 15%..and
often 8-10%. In the various trips Ive made servicing CNC
lathes..there have been several states where the humidity simply
curled my lungs inside out. Is Alabama one of those? Hot I dont
mind..hot and humid takes all the wind out of my sails.
Gunner
Gunner Asch
wrote:
>I got out of a city 25 years ago, but I won't let the liberals chase me out
>of the state. I understand that many in other states don't like
>Californians, but the ones they meet are quitters. We don't need them here
>either.
I live 90 miles north of Los Angeles in a nice rural Red county. In
the middle of old oil fields and ag.
And the average wage here is something like $11 an hour..with
Californias huge debt load.
I simply work in the metro LA area...
Gunner
Gunner Asch
Noted! Thanks!
Gunner
>
Buerste
"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
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> California is dying as an industrial power. It at one time was the 7th
> largest economy in the world. No longer. Its the #3 hardest hit state
> in the looming Great Depression Part Deux, only behind Michigan with
> its Rust Belt.
>
> And Im not getting any work in my current trade, machine tool repair.
>
> So Ive been looking around a bit at other states for employment..and
> Id like to ask you folks for your input.
Decide where you want to go, let me know and I will find the closest
co-manufacturer, customer or supplier in my Rolodex of friends. The offer
for Cleveland is still open but I filled the cherry job I wanted you for but
I'll find a way to make room in the budget.
Imagine what it would be like for a libtard wanting to move to a new locale.
He would be inquiring about Cheese-Checks, HEAP, ADC, Workers Comp, Unions,
abortion clinics, sodomy laws and the closest ACLU office.
Gunner Asch
During the mid 70s..I worked for Bendix Geophysical in McAllen, Pharr
(SP) and across the border in Matamoros etc for Pemex
It was a nice state, but I generally only worked there in the winters.
How is the humitity in most of the state..or is as you say..three
different areas and 3 different humidities?
I live in the High Desert...3-18% humidity most of the time in the
summer, winter ..well..we often have tule fog..but its not 120F either
in the winter
Gunner
Gunner Asch
Hal has only lived in the basement of a Bathhouse in the Bay area.
Which is why he is the way he is. Stupid and queer.
Gunner
>
>Steve
>
Gunner Asch
Ok..why?
Gunner, originally a Michigan native.
Gunner Asch
Thats sounds cool..but does it pay the bills?
<G>
Gunner
Gunner Asch
I j want to make enough that when I die..there is enough left to put
me in the crematorium and box up my ashes.
And have some fun between now and then..which will be 30 or more years
from now.
Shrug...I dont care about being rich..but trying to figure out how to
pay the power bill and the water bill next week really sucks.
Gunner
Buerste
"Don Foreman" <dfor...@NOSPAMgoldengate.net> wrote in message
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I'd second that! Add to that a FFL and deal arms on the net. That's how
I've purchased a few and I'm happy with the transactions.
Gunner Asch
>
>"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
>news:0voog5hadh8pur7b8...@4ax.com...
>> California is dying as an industrial power. It at one time was the 7th
>> largest economy in the world. No longer. Its the #3 hardest hit state
>> in the looming Great Depression Part Deux, only behind Michigan with
>> its Rust Belt.
>>
>> And Im not getting any work in my current trade, machine tool repair.
>>
>> So Ive been looking around a bit at other states for employment..and
>> Id like to ask you folks for your input.
><snip>
>
>Decide where you want to go, let me know and I will find the closest
>co-manufacturer, customer or supplier in my Rolodex of friends. The offer
>for Cleveland is still open but I filled the cherry job I wanted you for but
>I'll find a way to make room in the budget.
The reason I passed..was you needed a guy Now..and Im not yet ready to
bail out. And I greatly apprciate the offer. And might take you up on
it.
Ive not had a service call in 2 weeks, had one the week before..and
they paid me a fraction of the bill. So its time I started looking
around for a new gig. Either here where my house is paid for..or
toss all to the winds and fly. And at my age..thats pretty damned
hard to do. Particularly since Im taking care of my ex..who has a long
long list of medical issues.
And of course my dogs/cats and what do I do with them? Some will
come..some would have to be killed. And thats a hard thing to do
unless its absolutely necessary. Shrug.
Next week they turn off my water and power if I dont get some bucks in
fast..and this close to Christmas..no one is buying tools or
machinery. So Im probably going to have to dig in the vaults and
peddle a few arms. If anyone has the money to buy them.
The wife has a green diamond wedding ring, that I bought her years
ago...and she mentioned selling it earlier this evening...I can get
about $5k wholsale for it..but thats one of the last things that Id
sell..its something she has loved deeply for many years.
Ill make out. I always do. If it wasnt for her..Id let em turn off the
power and simply rough it. Shrug. Guy came by today..he owes me
about $3k..and gave me $80. Whoopeee. Shrug.
Going to have another family over for Turkey day..hope it helps the
wife..she is suffering from Holiday depression..course the kids moved
to Florida a few weeks ago..and she cant work..so is not having a good
time of it.
Food we have. Critter food..thats more problematic. Going to spend a
chunk of that $80 for critter food for another week or two. Out of
propane for the forklift..so cant even unload the Lancer lathe I was
given yesterday..though I may sneak down and buy a gallon or two or
propane tommorow. Might have that much in the change tray in my work
truck. Propane here is over $3.45 a gallon...cringe.
Called several of my clients that still owe me money. "sorry..we cant
even make payroll..but if we get any in..we will send you what we can"
Shrug
>Imagine what it would be like for a libtard wanting to move to a new locale.
>He would be inquiring about Cheese-Checks, HEAP, ADC, Workers Comp, Unions,
>abortion clinics, sodomy laws and the closest ACLU office.
>
Ayup. And they want to make everyone equal to them.
No thanks
Gunner
Gunner Asch
Good post indeed.
Though I should mention that only on paper am Im 56..I still run the
tails of most kids. But yes..in only a few years...Im going to start
slowing down.
it should be noted that the majority of electricians in california are
NOT union. Union electricians are actually a very small minority. Just
a heads up.
As for not fixing my truck...its not because I cant..its because I
hate working on vehicles. Shrug. I work on complex mechanical stuff
all day long fixing machine tools and CNC machine tools. A great deal
of which is far far more complex than an engine. And one seldom
smashes ones fingers, has to lay down on ones back under a machine and
so forth.
California however..really isnt a good place for gunsmiths. We cant
even buy AR-15s here..shrug. There used to be quite a number of
them...one per town..and now they are all dead and gone..and no one is
interested enough in replacing them.
I do my own gunsmithing. Have for years. Built a number of arms from
scratch, upgraded/converted many more.
I suppose I could look into doing it for others..but in my area..there
are about 5 smiths..and thats about all that they really need. And
while I do my own stock work..few people ..at least here...can afford
to have stock work done other than doing it themselves.
Now I do have a couple CNC lathes..and have been pondering what sort
of gun related Stuff I could make and sell...ebay has a number of
machine shops selling gun Stuff ...some reasonable..some very
expensive. Im seeing less and less of them however. That $75 hr
machine time tends to eat up profits for a shop, even if its side
work. I can, of course..do it a hell of a lot cheaper..working out of
ones home is far cheaper.
Got any good suggestions as to products I could make and sell that
way?
As for ideosyncrisies... my Newsgroup persona may or may not match my
Real World persona....<VBG>
Gunner
>
>
>
>
>
Gunner Asch
You think that Marx's charectorization of Capitalists is accurate too.
Laugh laugh laugh
#28
<plink>
Gunner
Gunner Asch
wrote:
>>
>> A few men with modest lathes, some tooling and considerable skills who
>> can craft rifles that win BR matches and/or craft pistols that are
>> exquisite in design and function have far more work than they can do
>> even in the present economy and perhaps especially at present. They
>> can live where ever they want and most do live in rural to remote
>> locales. Age doesn't matter, nor does physical frailty that
>> inevitably accompanies advancing age. You say you're good for another
>> 15 to 20 and maybe you are, but I'll note that being 68 is definitely
>> different from being 56. YMMV.
>>
>
>I'd second that! Add to that a FFL and deal arms on the net. That's how
>I've purchased a few and I'm happy with the transactions.
Bear in mind..that I live in California. The state that has its own
permanant Assault weapons ban..and the state that most ads on the gun
auction websites specifically state they wont ship to.
Shrug
Gunner
Frank Gilliland
<0voog5hadh8pur7b8...@4ax.com>:
I think moving to Idaho would be good for you. Seriously. It would
give you a new perspective on things. People in Idaho are a whole
different breed of 'conservative' -- they actually have to work for a
living instead of bullshitting their way through life. They don't care
much for vet imposters or middle-aged tough-guys, so you'll have to
learn to keep your overly-opinionated mouth shut (unless you really
enjoy getting your ass kicked).
And none of us here in the NW like the waves of Californian refugees
we get every few years. Not to mention the crime that they bring with
them. IOW, you would be just another immigrant, most of whom usually
run back home a few years later, and those that can't afford to run
end up applying for welfare (if they qualify; I hear most don't).
Of course wherever you go you will have to deal with the elephant in
the room. Which is that California, even in this economic rut, is one
of the richest states in the nation; if you can't carve out a living
there then you got no business trying to take someone else's business
in a place where people work a hell of a lot harder than you ever did.
Because of that alone, the competition you bring will not be welcomed
with open arms.
And since Idaho is mostly a state of small towns, you will have to
EARN your credibility. Usually at an entry-level job. But most of
those are filled by illegal immigrants. Even the electricians and
welders and construction workers. Yes, even in Idaho. Especially in
the Southern parts where agriculture is the primary industry. Because,
and contrary to the doctrine of Rush, conservatives -love- illegal
grunts because they are cheap labor; what they -don't- want if for
those cheap laborers to have the right to vote.
When you finally realize that you are really late to the game, expect
to start your shinging new career in agriculture by sorting potatoes
at less-than-minimum wage (i.e, under the table; do that too long and
you'll lose your SS benefits). Oh, and you'll have to keep up with
23yo Juan if you want to keep your job.
Shrug.
But hey, at least you'll have your guns.... until your money runs out.
And you can still write bullshit stories on the internet about your
imaginary he-man exploits and your 22-inch schlong. I think they have
high-speed cable internet in the deep, dark regions of Idaho, don't
they? Well, if not then you can just go back to mail-order porn.
Your best chance would be up in the panhandle. Lots of trees, although
the logging industry is kinda on the rocks. Lots of mining towns, and
with the rising price of gold the unemployment rates in those towns
might even drop below 20%. Not just mining in those towns, either;
they shot one movie and Wallace and it could happen again (keep your
fingers crossed!). Lots of jobs in the tourist/service industries,
assuming you don't mind seasonal work, folding laundry, flipping
burgers, waxing skis, etc. Oh, and you should be thrilled that there
is a new resurgence of the neo-Nazi cult in Hayden; you and Mark
Fuhrman can BS about the good ol' days back in California!
Yeah, I think moving to Idaho would be a good experience for you.
Michael A. Terrell
After they let the hot air and bullshit out of you, you'll fit in a
thimble with enough room left over for 1000 lawyer hearts.
--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!
hal
you commute into LA every day and you call yourself a survivalist?
>
>Gunner
Rick
"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
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Then you're only a 3 hour drive away, lol...but you know what the humidity
is like here sometimes..
hal
Ooie, ouch. Gee. It's like being in grade school again.
Jim Wilkins
>
> >Grand Rapids, Michigan.
>
> Smack in the middle of the Rust Belt? Tell me why.
>
> Gunner, raised in the UP and in Grayling, Michigan.
There's evidence that your biggest admirer clhuprich does or did live
there.
Larry Jaques
<dfor...@NOSPAMgoldengate.net> scrawled the following:
--snip--
>>Gunner
--snip--
>Your most consistent interest and passion has to do with guns. If
>you're really serious about a new course, I'd say build on that. You
>know guns and their use, you can respect people who respect guns, and
>you have at least rudimentary skills in machining and smithing. The
>people most likely to be tolerant of your idiosyncrasies are those who
>appreciate and covet fine firearms and will pay handsomely to have
>them made for them. There are people with money to spend even in
>recessions. Hell, you know how nuts sales of AR-15's has been since
>the election, even in a down economy.
>
>A few men with modest lathes, some tooling and considerable skills who
>can craft rifles that win BR matches and/or craft pistols that are
>exquisite in design and function have far more work than they can do
>even in the present economy and perhaps especially at present. They
>can live where ever they want and most do live in rural to remote
>locales. Age doesn't matter, nor does physical frailty that
>inevitably accompanies advancing age. You say you're good for another
>15 to 20 and maybe you are, but I'll note that being 68 is definitely
>different from being 56. YMMV.
I'll bet that if he moved to somewhere outside of Vegas (similar
desert weather, though colder in winter), he'd easily have a chance
for a couple things:
1) Be hired by Ignazio Piazza as an instructor for training folks at
his Front Sight shooting city. (Not just a range, or so I've heard.)
2) With all his tooling and experience, fix guns and rig mechanisms
for the aforementioned folks or their clients.
You'd be an easily welcomed addition to Grass Pants, OR, too, Gunner,
but you'd spend half your time derusting all your stash.
--
It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare;
it is because we do not dare that they are difficult.
-- Seneca
dca...@krl.org
> Bear in mind..that I live in California.
> Gunner
But you are thinking of fixing that.
Dan
robert bowman
> Not just mining in those towns, either;
> they shot one movie and Wallace and it could happen again (keep your
> fingers crossed!). Lots of jobs in the tourist/service industries,
> assuming you don't mind seasonal work, folding laundry, flipping
> burgers, waxing skis, etc.
http://www.legendsofamerica.com/ID-Quirky.html
Maybe tour guide at the whorehouse museum in Wallace? At least they made a
go of it; a similar project in Butte failed, as do most things in Butte.
wmbjk...@citlink.net
<gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>California is dying as an industrial power. It at one time was the 7th
>largest economy in the world. No longer. Its the #3 hardest hit state
>in the looming Great Depression Part Deux, only behind Michigan with
>its Rust Belt.
>
>And Im not getting any work in my current trade, machine tool repair.
>
>So Ive been looking around a bit at other states for employment..and
>Id like to ask you folks for your input.
>
>Some prelims...
>
>Im 56yrs old, had some medical issues, now largely resolved.
>
>Im tecnically oriented and can troubleshoot electrionics at assembly
>level, machine, lathe and mill, can fix complex mechanical assemblies,
>can weld, do woodworking, gunsmithing, can do commecial and industrial
>electricial. Ive worked as a lumberjack, oil field roughneck etc etc
>etc.
Based on many of your posts here, you're clearly exaggerating your
experience and skill.
>Frankly...there isnt much that I cant do.
Except for easy mechanical stuff, eh? Like figuring out if an engine
problem is fuel or spark...
> I detest retail work, paper
>work, suit and tie work. Im honest, motivated, self starter,
Nobody with those attributes ends up with a record like this one
http://tinyurl.com/d7hkkp.
>experinced in job requirements and meeting them. I deal well with
>others
On what planet does fantasizing about "the great cull" count as
dealing well with others?
> and can supervise others well. However..Ive spent my life
>working as an individual technician and dont fit well in a herd.
>Shrug. Im good at what I do..far too many out there simply sucking on
>the paycheck.
Here's a job hunting tip - don't criticize others right after you've
talked about how well you get along with everybody.
>Give me a task, tell me where the parts are..and go away. Ill finish
>the job and ask for another.
Nope. Leave you alone and you'll skulk off to the nearest computer. If
not for your kind of slacking, punch clocks would never have been
invented, and drill-sergeant supervisors would be jobless.
>So anyways..Ive been considering moving out of California..after being
>here for 30+ yrs.
Bailiff closing in? About f*&king time!
>Idaho is simply one of the states Im considering but the one Im
>focused on at the moment.
>
>If anyone has suggestions for other states..feel free to toss em
>in..Id be happy to look at them.
Nigeria
>I figure Im good for another 15-20 yrs working. Shrug
Remember after your first heart event, you said you were good to go?
Then came rounds 2 and 3. Take a hint from that: don't ever get too
far from an emergency room.
>So anyone have any good or bad things to say about Idaho? Its
>economy, chances for growth and employment and so forth.
>
>Im interested in perhaps moving out of California...heading anyplace
>that I can prosper enough to keep myself and my family alive and
>eating regularly.
>
>Anyone?
>
>Im not moving tommorow, next week or next month. Next
>year...shrug...gotta have someplace to go, before figuring out how to
>get there.
If you were serious about moving, you'd be working towards that.
Instead you posted 900 times last week to one newsgroup alone, and
probably as much again to all the others. Now you're going to write a
few hundred more about a fantasy move? Hilarious.
Wayne
RBnDFW
> <hal> wrote in message news:4b0cb582...@news.newsguy.com...
>> <S31924...@netscape.net> wrote:
>>
>>> "Strabo" <str...@flashlight.net> wrote in message
>>> news:mC%Om.11149$cX4....@newsfe10.iad...
>>>
>>>> Texas. It's a natural fit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> That it is.
>>>
>>> "The Patch" is still active, small entrepreneurs are opening machine shops
>>> and companies that use machinery, etc.
>>>
>>> Local regs may require a Master Electrician's cert for wiring, though...
>>>
>>> BTW, NO State Income Tax and it's a Right To Work state! <grin>
>> Texas would be OK if it wasn't full of Texans.
>>
>> Do you know how they bury Texans?
>> They let out all the hot air and bullshit and put them in a shoebox.
>
If so, not for more than a few weeks.
We run his type off pretty quick.
hal
<w�renut@NOSPAM�cehouse.net> wrote:
>But hey, at least you'll have your guns.... until your money runs out.
>And you can still write bullshit stories on the internet about your
>imaginary he-man exploits and your 22-inch schlong. I think they have
>high-speed cable internet in the deep, dark regions of Idaho, don't
>they? Well, if not then you can just go back to mail-order porn.
>
>Your best chance would be up in the panhandle. Lots of trees, although
>the logging industry is kinda on the rocks. Lots of mining towns, and
>with the rising price of gold the unemployment rates in those towns
>might even drop below 20%. Not just mining in those towns, either;
>they shot one movie and Wallace and it could happen again (keep your
>fingers crossed!). Lots of jobs in the tourist/service industries,
>assuming you don't mind seasonal work, folding laundry, flipping
>burgers, waxing skis, etc. Oh, and you should be thrilled that there
>is a new resurgence of the neo-Nazi cult in Hayden; you and Mark
>Fuhrman can BS about the good ol' days back in California!
>
>Yeah, I think moving to Idaho would be a good experience for you.
Yikes!
wmbjk...@citlink.net
<desert...@dishmail.net> wrote:
>I live in rural Utah, and I see about one black person a month. Some
>Hispanics. I figure the tsunami is coming, but for now, it's refreshing. I
>hear about one boom box in a car a week, and that always has a California
>plate and a local cop on their tail.
>
>I still have to go down to Vegas for business, and I carry a gun, mace, and
>a police scanner all the time.
If you weren't such an ignorant racist then you wouldn't be so
paranoid. I visit LV a few times each year, and the only extra I need
is time for waiting out all the damned interminable stop lights.
>You don't have long left.
Don't believe his stories, eh? He's repeatedly said that he expects to
live a long time, including another <gag> 20 years of employment!
> Decide whether you want to make money or live
>life. There's a difference, ya know?
There's also subsistence living, and that's what gummer will do
wherever he goes. If you want to help him out, then check which
bennies his fandamily will qualify for if they move to your
neighborhood.
Wayne
RBnDFW
Stay 100 miles West of Fort Worth (along a line North to South) and the
humidity is more arid. Trouble is, the arid parts of the state are also
the most boring, with the possible exception of the Big Bend area
wmbjk...@citlink.net
>On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:03:19 -0800, Gunner Asch
><gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>
>>California is dying as an industrial power. It at one time was the 7th
>>largest economy in the world. No longer. Its the #3 hardest hit state
>>in the looming Great Depression Part Deux, only behind Michigan with
>>its Rust Belt.
>>
>>And Im not getting any work in my current trade, machine tool repair.
>>
>>So Ive been looking around a bit at other states for employment..and
>>Id like to ask you folks for your input.
>>
>>Some prelims...
>>
>>Im 56yrs old, had some medical issues, now largely resolved.
>>
>>Im tecnically oriented and can troubleshoot electrionics at assembly
>>level, machine, lathe and mill, can fix complex mechanical assemblies,
>>can weld, do woodworking, gunsmithing, can do commecial and industrial
>>electricial. Ive worked as a lumberjack, oil field roughneck etc etc
>>etc.
>>
>>Frankly...there isnt much that I cant do. I detest retail work, paper
>>work, suit and tie work. Im honest, motivated, self starter,
>>experinced in job requirements and meeting them. I deal well with
>>others and can supervise others well. However..Ive spent my life
>>working as an individual technician and dont fit well in a herd.
>>Shrug. Im good at what I do..far too many out there simply sucking on
>>the paycheck.
>>
>>Give me a task, tell me where the parts are..and go away. Ill finish
>>the job and ask for another.
>>
>>
>>So anyways..Ive been considering moving out of California..after being
>>here for 30+ yrs.
>>
>>Idaho is simply one of the states Im considering but the one Im
>>focused on at the moment.
>>
>>If anyone has suggestions for other states..feel free to toss em
>>in..Id be happy to look at them.
>>
>>I figure Im good for another 15-20 yrs working. Shrug
>>
>>So anyone have any good or bad things to say about Idaho? Its
>>economy, chances for growth and employment and so forth.
>>
>>Im interested in perhaps moving out of California...heading anyplace
>>that I can prosper enough to keep myself and my family alive and
>>eating regularly.
>>
>>Anyone?
>>
>>Im not moving tommorow, next week or next month. Next
>>year...shrug...gotta have someplace to go, before figuring out how to
>>get there.
>
>>Gunner
>
>I don't know jack about Idaho, but perhaps your focus should be on
>what rather than where.
>
>You can do commercial and industrial electrical,
No, he can't. He doesn't know watts from watermelon. Nor can he do
high-school level mechanical diagnostics either, as evidenced by his
failure to figure out if a vehicle problem is fuel or ignition.
> but only as a scab
>and that can be hard work even when scab work is available. It
>obviously isn't. If you can repair complex mechanical assemblies,
>you've opted not to fix your own truck so that obviously doesn't
>appeal to you. You may be able to troubleshoot electronics, but I
>rather doubt that you can do it better than zit-faced eager hungry
>young techs with recent training, young families, strong motivation
>and willingness to tolerate whatever crap they must for a paycheck.
>You ain't gonna be a lumberjack or oilfield roughneck at age 60 and
>beyond.
>
>Your most consistent interest and passion has to do with guns. If
>you're really serious about a new course, I'd say build on that. You
>know guns and their use, you can respect people who respect guns, and
>you have at least rudimentary skills in machining and smithing. The
>people most likely to be tolerant of your idiosyncrasies are those who
>appreciate and covet fine firearms and will pay handsomely to have
>them made for them. There are people with money to spend even in
>recessions. Hell, you know how nuts sales of AR-15's has been since
>the election, even in a down economy.
>
>A few men with modest lathes, some tooling and considerable skills who
>can craft rifles that win BR matches and/or craft pistols that are
>exquisite in design and function have far more work than they can do
>even in the present economy and perhaps especially at present. They
>can live where ever they want and most do live in rural to remote
>locales. Age doesn't matter, nor does physical frailty that
>inevitably accompanies advancing age. You say you're good for another
>15 to 20 and maybe you are, but I'll note that being 68 is definitely
>different from being 56. YMMV.
Some good advice there. But you overlooked a couple of major points.
1. People who've proven that they're happy with a subsistence
lifestyle for decades, and who can't do a simple responsible thing
like making their property taxes a priority over smoking, aren't
really capable of starting over and doing it right. 2. Gummer's
background wouldn't pass muster with any serious review. Employers are
in a buyer's market, there's no reason to reach very low in the barrel
of applicants. The places I can envision him getting a job - wrecking
yard, muffler repair shop, etc. But he wouldn't last a week.
Face it - Gummer's had a tough row to hoe for as long as he's been
posting here. His response, as always, is more posting. 900 times last
week to this newsgroup alone. You're dreaming if you expect anything
other than more of the same.
Wayne
wmbjk...@citlink.net
<w�renut@NOSPAM�cehouse.net> wrote:
<chuckle>
Gummy's best chance might be to start a bidding war among
destinations, to see who will pay the most to make him stay out of
their community. Perhaps that's why he mentioned that his fandamily
will be accompanying him. Which is sure to send a chill up the spine
of any county's comptroller.
Wayne
Pete C.
Steve B wrote:
>
> "Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote
>
> > that I can prosper enough to keep myself and my family alive and
> > eating regularly.
> >
> > Anyone?
> >
> > Im not moving tommorow, next week or next month. Next
> > year...shrug...gotta have someplace to go, before figuring out how to
> > get there.
> >
> >
> >
>
> Don't know anything about Idaho, but I like Utah. Not a great state for
> machinery, or manufacturing, but it's all in the attitude of the person. I
> do know that there's a different mindset in Idaho and Utah that are
> contagious once one's been here any length of time. Makes you just deal
> with whatever happens, because you never want to go back to You Know Where.
> Hispanics. I figure the tsunami is coming, but for now, it's refreshing. I
> hear about one boom box in a car a week, and that always has a California
> plate and a local cop on their tail.
>
> I still have to go down to Vegas for business, and I carry a gun, mace, and
> destruct in a short time, are found (or not found) dead in the woods from
> hunting accidents, or just beaten by the local Bubbas until they move on.
>
> life. There's a difference, ya know?
>
Definitely Texas, probably west or north west to get some semi familiar
terrain and climate. Certainly the economy in Texas is doing better than
most of the country. No state income tax, relatively low cost of living
especially out of the metro areas, etc. And most importantly, you have a
bunch of RCMers in TX ready to help you unpack all your machines when
you move.
Steve B
"Beryl" <fo...@road.net> wrote in message
news:pdqdndAkp6ZYRpHW...@posted.toastnet...
> Steve B wrote:
>> <hal> wrote in message news:4b0cb582...@news.newsguy.com...
>>> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:21:49 -0600, "RAM�"
>>> <S31924...@netscape.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> news:mC%Om.11149$cX4....@newsfe10.iad...
>>>>
>>>>> Texas. It's a natural fit.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> That it is.
>>>>
>>>> "The Patch" is still active, small entrepreneurs are opening machine
>>>> shops
>>>> and companies that use machinery, etc.
>>>>
>>>> Local regs may require a Master Electrician's cert for wiring,
>>>> though...
>>>>
>>>> BTW, NO State Income Tax and it's a Right To Work state! <grin>
>>>
>>> Do you know how they bury Texans?
>>> They let out all the hot air and bullshit and put them in a shoebox.
>>
>> One question .......... have you ever lived in Texas?
>>
>
> I have. Hal's characterization is accurate, and Texas is a proper place
> for gummer.
If that is Hal's idea of Texans, then I think he would be maladjusted
anywhere he lived. I've lived in a lot of places, and not found one state
yet that didn't have a lot of good people mixed in. It's where YOU live
that matters, and that's inside your head. Or I could be wrong, and there's
something wrong with everybody ELSE.
And I am referring to YOU plural, and not you individually.
Steve
Steve B
"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote > How is the humitity in
> different areas and 3 different humidities?
>
> summer, winter ..well..we often have tule fog..but its not 120F either
> in the winter
>
> Gunner
I'd say that it comes in three degrees, coastal, hill country, and west
Texas. The two closer to the coast are more humid, but the west Texas areas
are a little drier, and have harsher winters. I like the central Texas hill
country myself, and Austin is rockin' right now financially. If you go
there, let me know, I have some advertising ties. Oilfield is all over
Texas, so unless you are in the hotshot service business and need to be
closer to the coast, you could live anywhere in the state.
Take a vacation and look at it. You've seen McAllen area, and that is
transitional into the deserts of Mexico.
You might also look at Lafayette, Louisiana, as there is a lot of oil
business there, but also competition. Terribly humid, but very cool place
culturally, the food is fantastic, the people are a hoot, and you can't beat
the fishing and hunting. Close enough to service the whole Gulf Coast. I
lived there about eight years, and loved it.
Just some thoughts.
Steve
rangerssuck
In other words, great place for a bigoted asshole like yourself.
Steve B
"Don Foreman" <dfor...@NOSPAMgoldengate.net> wrote in message
news:b7jpg5p5e0mtnolfe...@4ax.com...
>>that I can prosper enough to keep myself and my family alive and
>>eating regularly.
>>
>>Anyone?
>>
>>Im not moving tommorow, next week or next month. Next
>>year...shrug...gotta have someplace to go, before figuring out how to
>>get there.
>
>>Gunner
>
> what rather than where.
>
Hmmmmmm. Going to Texas and going into the gun business? Sounds like $$$
to me.
Steve
rangerssuck
> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:09:09 -0800, "Steve B"
> >> that I can prosper enough to keep myself and my family alive and
> >> eating regularly.
>
> >> Anyone?
>
> >> Im not moving tommorow, next week or next month. Next
> >> year...shrug...gotta have someplace to go, before figuring out how to
> >> get there.
>
> >> Gunner
>
> >machinery, or manufacturing, but it's all in the attitude of the person. I
> >do know that there's a different mindset in Idaho and Utah that are
> >contagious once one's been here any length of time. Makes you just deal
> >with whatever happens, because you never want to go back to You Know Where.
> >I live in rural Utah, and I see about one black person a month. Some
> >Hispanics. I figure the tsunami is coming, but for now, it's refreshing. I
> >hear about one boom box in a car a week, and that always has a California
> >plate and a local cop on their tail.
>
> >I still have to go down to Vegas for business, and I carry a gun, mace, and
> >a police scanner all the time. Around here, stupid people seem to self
> >destruct in a short time, are found (or not found) dead in the woods from
> >hunting accidents, or just beaten by the local Bubbas until they move on.
>
> >You don't have long left. Decide whether you want to make money or live
> >life. There's a difference, ya know?
>
> >Steve
>
> me in the crematorium and box up my ashes.
>
> And have some fun between now and then..which will be 30 or more years
> from now.
>
> Shrug...I dont care about being rich..but trying to figure out how to
> pay the power bill and the water bill next week really sucks.
>
> Gunner
Yet, you still have enough money to pay for car repairs you could have
done yourself, but didn't feel like doing, and to pay for internet
access so you can spew bullshit.
Jim Stewart
> If that is Hal's idea of Texans, then I think he would be maladjusted
> anywhere he lived. I've lived in a lot of places, and not found one state
> yet that didn't have a lot of good people mixed in. It's where YOU live
> that matters, and that's inside your head. Or I could be wrong, and there's
> something wrong with everybody ELSE.
I've always wondered about this.
I've met several transplanted Texans in California
and the vast majority of them seemed to be jerks.
Later, I spent considerable time in the Dallas/
Fort Worth area on business and had never met such
a nice bunch of people. What's up with that? Does
Texas export their jerks to California?
CanopyCo
>
> One thing Im concerned about ..Ive lived in California for 30 yrs...in
> the high desert, where the humidity is hardly ever above 15%..and
> often 8-10%. In the various trips Ive made servicing CNC
> lathes..there have been several states where the humidity simply
> curled my lungs inside out. Is Alabama one of those? Hot I dont
> mind..hot and humid takes all the wind out of my sails.
>
> Gunner- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Then forget anyplace that has trees and any kind of summer.
You need desert to avoid humidity.
Don Foreman
That might be why fine custom firearms come from places other than
California. Other difficult venues for such activity might be New
York City, New Jersey, Washington DC and Chicago. So what?
CanopyCo
> that I can prosper enough to keep myself and my family alive and
> eating regularly.
>
> Anyone?
>
> Im not moving tommorow, next week or next month. Next
> year...shrug...gotta have someplace to go, before figuring out how to
> get there.
>
> Gunner
Good grief dude, you aren’t really trying to pass off this resume on
people that know you are you?
Just how long has it been since you put in a 40 hour week for 8 weeks
in a row?
You do realize that jobs require 40 hours weeks every week every month
until you quit or are fired.
I expect that it has been years since you put in even two 40 hour
weeks in a row.
The entire nation is loosing jobs, and you want to move to a place
where you have to pay rent and then find a job that will not peter out
on you in a month or so?
Good luck with that.
Did you ever look at doing peace work in your machine shop?
Putting adds on crags list looking for contracts in areas that you say
you can work?
Not just locally, but nationally, considering that you can ship the
end result just like everyone else does.
Look at advertising gun smiting, computer repair (you say you can do
board level repair so computer repair should be a snap), machining
peace rate, construction remodeling contracts, electrician contacts
(even as a helper subcontracting to a licensed electrician), ect.
None of the burger places hiring?
They would keep your electric on.
What happened to your survival stash?
I lasted 2 years on mine, while applying for disability.
You dieing off already?
The oil field is always hiring deck hands.
Oklahoma is one of the best spots in the nation job wise, with Tulsa
and Oklahoma City being on all the good lists.
In Tulsa the place that make toilet paper is always hiring night shift
fork lift drivers.
Pays $8 a hour on a 40 hour week and requires you to work 15 minutes
each morning and 30 minutes each evening off the clock in addition to
the paid 40 hour week.
All the temp places are hiring with a average of $8 a hour for what
normally paid $15 a hour when things was good, back before Bush.
The factory across the road from my families farm commonly hires
people with your skills, that can fix machine shops.
They pay $10 a hour and require you to work a 40 hour week, every
week, building pallets and shipping parts all day long if no machine
needs fixed.
CanopyCo
wrote:
> When you finally realize that you are really late to the game, expect
> to start your shinging new career in agriculture by sorting potatoes
> at less-than-minimum wage (i.e, under the table; do that too long and
> you'll lose your SS benefits).
No worries there, considering that he hasn’t paid taxes in years.
SS benefits are based on taxable income, mostly in the last 15 years.
Ignoramus20054
of social assistance available, relevant jobs, relevant service
opportunities, and machine deals, compared to where Gunner is right
now.
Being poor, or pre-retirement age, and with health issues, amount of
social assistance is in fact very important.
As far as guns are concerned, everything I have seen about that
industry suggests to me that it is hard to make a good living by doing
full time gunsmithing.
If I were you, I would sell half of your Stuff at firesale prices as a
first step to recovery.
i
RAM�
news:YrGdnWJgkbqDHpDW...@giganews.com:
> As far as guns are concerned, everything I have seen about that
> industry suggests to me that it is hard to make a good living by doing
> full time gunsmithing.
>
It's obvious, Iggy, that you've never been to Texas - otherwise you'd never
have made such a rediculous comment.
Even the Urbanites love their customized shootin' irons and, with one
hunting season or another open almost at any time, they enjoy shootin'them.
Out in the boonies people tend to do even more shooting - with everything
from .17 to .50 in rifled arms and from .410 to 10ga Magnums (especially
during dove, goose, & duck seasons).
Pete C.
No, but when nice Texans spend too much time in the socialist republic
of Kalifornia it does bad things to them.
Ignoramus20054
Yes, people love customizing guns, but gunsmithing is a competitive
business.
The gunsmiths who I have seen in Illinois were rather poor. (I have
seen two)
i
Don Foreman
<gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:15:35 -0600, Don Foreman
><dfor...@NOSPAMgoldengate.net> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:03:19 -0800, Gunner Asch
>>I don't know jack about Idaho, but perhaps your focus should be on
>>what rather than where.
>>
>>You can do commercial and industrial electrical, but only as a scab
>>and that can be hard work even when scab work is available. It
>>obviously isn't. If you can repair complex mechanical assemblies,
>>you've opted not to fix your own truck so that obviously doesn't
>>appeal to you. You may be able to troubleshoot electronics, but I
>>rather doubt that you can do it better than zit-faced eager hungry
>>young techs with recent training, young families, strong motivation
>>and willingness to tolerate whatever crap they must for a paycheck.
>>You ain't gonna be a lumberjack or oilfield roughneck at age 60 and
>>beyond.
>>
>>Your most consistent interest and passion has to do with guns. If
>>you're really serious about a new course, I'd say build on that. You
>>know guns and their use, you can respect people who respect guns, and
>>you have at least rudimentary skills in machining and smithing. The
>>people most likely to be tolerant of your idiosyncrasies are those who
>>appreciate and covet fine firearms and will pay handsomely to have
>>them made for them. There are people with money to spend even in
>>recessions. Hell, you know how nuts sales of AR-15's has been since
>>the election, even in a down economy.
>>
>>A few men with modest lathes, some tooling and considerable skills who
>>can craft rifles that win BR matches and/or craft pistols that are
>>exquisite in design and function have far more work than they can do
>>even in the present economy and perhaps especially at present. They
>>can live where ever they want and most do live in rural to remote
>>locales. Age doesn't matter, nor does physical frailty that
>>inevitably accompanies advancing age. You say you're good for another
>>15 to 20 and maybe you are, but I'll note that being 68 is definitely
>>different from being 56. YMMV.
>
>
>Good post indeed.
>
>Though I should mention that only on paper am Im 56..I still run the
>tails of most kids. But yes..in only a few years...Im going to start
>slowing down.
>
>it should be noted that the majority of electricians in california are
>NOT union. Union electricians are actually a very small minority. Just
>a heads up.
By "scab" I meant unlicensed rather than non-union. In MN, electrical
work for others must be done by a licensed electrician. Perhaps it's
different in CA. That's not to say that plenty of illegal work isn't
done, just as many domestic and agri jobs are done by illegals.
>
>As for not fixing my truck...its not because I cant..its because I
>hate working on vehicles.
What I said: you opted not to fix the truck. I don't wrench on
vehicles anymore either. But ability to do something is of no value
if you won't do it.
>Shrug. I work on complex mechanical stuff
>all day long fixing machine tools and CNC machine tools. A great deal
>of which is far far more complex than an engine. And one seldom
>smashes ones fingers, has to lay down on ones back under a machine and
>so forth.
>
>California however..really isnt a good place for gunsmiths.
If you don't really intend to leave CA then my entire note is
irrelevant -- as is this entire thread.
> We cant
>even buy AR-15s here..shrug. There used to be quite a number of
>them...one per town..and now they are all dead and gone..and no one is
>interested enough in replacing them.
>
>I do my own gunsmithing. Have for years. Built a number of arms from
>scratch, upgraded/converted many more.
>
>I suppose I could look into doing it for others..but in my area..there
>are about 5 smiths..and thats about all that they really need. And
>while I do my own stock work..few people ..at least here...can afford
>to have stock work done other than doing it themselves.
There are smiths with 6-month backlogs of work in some parts of the
country. These are guys with reputations for good work and fair
prices. Not low prices, fair prices for value received. One such is a
guy in his late '70's in Elbow Lake, MN.
>Now I do have a couple CNC lathes..and have been pondering what sort
>of gun related Stuff I could make and sell...ebay has a number of
>machine shops selling gun Stuff ...some reasonable..some very
>expensive. Im seeing less and less of them however. That $75 hr
>machine time tends to eat up profits for a shop, even if its side
>work. I can, of course..do it a hell of a lot cheaper..working out of
>ones home is far cheaper.
>
>Got any good suggestions as to products I could make and sell that
>way?
>
>As for ideosyncrisies... my Newsgroup persona may or may not match my
>Real World persona....<VBG>
Suggesting that your claim of being honest may or may not be true?
<VBG>
Don Foreman
<gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:02:40 -0500, "Buerste" <bue...@wowway.com>
>wrote:
>
>>>
>>> A few men with modest lathes, some tooling and considerable skills who
>>> can craft rifles that win BR matches and/or craft pistols that are
>>> exquisite in design and function have far more work than they can do
>>> even in the present economy and perhaps especially at present. They
>>> can live where ever they want and most do live in rural to remote
>>> locales. Age doesn't matter, nor does physical frailty that
>>> inevitably accompanies advancing age. You say you're good for another
>>> 15 to 20 and maybe you are, but I'll note that being 68 is definitely
>>> different from being 56. YMMV.
>>>
>>
>>I'd second that! Add to that a FFL and deal arms on the net. That's how
>>I've purchased a few and I'm happy with the transactions.
>
>
>Bear in mind..that I live in California. The state that has its own
>permanant Assault weapons ban..and the state that most ads on the gun
>auction websites specifically state they wont ship to.
>
>Shrug
Read your subject line, please.
Eregon
news:hejqfk$f59$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
We don't care where they end up so long as it's OUT OF TEXAS!!!
Usually they end up in one of the Socialist Paradises like those along
the Left Coast.
Don Foreman
I have no expectation one way or the other. I don't even give a damn
whether or not Gunner pays his taxes. I merely observe that he has
skills that are quite marketable and in demand right now and are
sustainable well past usual retirement age. Getting an FFL would be
obligatory. Finding work and establishing a reputation and growing
clientele outside of and well beyond CA would be the challenge.
I'll defer to you and others to judge and condemn.
Eregon
news:VvadncSM8LSuFpDW...@giganews.com:
That's a big part of your problem, Iggy - living in an annually frozen
wasteland with little more than a few birds to shoot and a deer season
that's over before most people can even get started good.
While I'll agree that the best "hunting" is in the Cities, most gang
members go for quantity (rounds-per-minute) over quality and the
politicians (and their badge-toting toadies) stay behind thick walls
while ignoring the illegal hunting as they try desperately to eliminate
legal hunting,
Try spending a small amount of time (5-10 years) West of the Big Muddy
and you'll be able to count a large number of Gunsmiths as personal
friends - friends who often specialize but can turn out works of art when
the money is right.
Curly Surmudgeon
Except Gummer would have to live there 9 months before getting benefits
and pay taxes.
Pay taxes.
--
Regards, Curly
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Curly Surmudgeon
<wïrenut@NOSPAMïcehouse.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:03:19 -0800, Gunner Asch
> <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in
> <0voog5hadh8pur7b8...@4ax.com>:
> ..far too many out there simply sucking on
>>the paycheck.
As if that is worse than sucking on the government teat that Gummer
abuses the working poor for.
RBnDFW
Damn right. Where better?
Kalifornia is to jerks as Mecca is to Muslims
(present company excluded etc)
Gunner Asch
wrote:
>On Nov 25, 2:22�am, Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Grand Rapids, Michigan.
>>
>> Smack in the middle of the Rust Belt? Tell me why.
>>
>> Gunner, raised in the UP and in Grayling, Michigan.
>
>There's evidence that your biggest admirer clhuprich does or did live
>there.
Reeellllly?
I still have family and friends there. Bikers some of them. And one
Family that keeps a nice place down on Higgins Lake...Funny last
name...Scillian ancestry...
Find out who and were he lives..it would be very handy to have.
Oh hell yes..indeedy.
<VBG>
Keep it in mind..might make it worth your while.
Gunner
Hawke
>> A few men with modest lathes, some tooling and considerable skills who
>> can craft rifles that win BR matches and/or craft pistols that are
>> exquisite in design and function have far more work than they can do
>> even in the present economy and perhaps especially at present. They
>> can live where ever they want and most do live in rural to remote
>> locales. Age doesn't matter, nor does physical frailty that
>> inevitably accompanies advancing age. You say you're good for another
>> 15 to 20 and maybe you are, but I'll note that being 68 is definitely
>> different from being 56. YMMV.
>
>
>
> Though I should mention that only on paper am Im 56..I still run the
> tails of most kids. But yes..in only a few years...Im going to start
> slowing down.
>
> it should be noted that the majority of electricians in california are
> NOT union. Union electricians are actually a very small minority. Just
> a heads up.
>
> all day long fixing machine tools and CNC machine tools. A great deal
> of which is far far more complex than an engine. And one seldom
> smashes ones fingers, has to lay down on ones back under a machine and
> so forth.
>
> even buy AR-15s here..shrug. There used to be quite a number of
> them...one per town..and now they are all dead and gone..and no one is
> interested enough in replacing them.
>
> I do my own gunsmithing. Have for years. Built a number of arms from
> scratch, upgraded/converted many more.
>
> I suppose I could look into doing it for others..but in my area..there
> are about 5 smiths..and thats about all that they really need. And
> while I do my own stock work..few people ..at least here...can afford
> to have stock work done other than doing it themselves.
>
> of gun related Stuff I could make and sell...ebay has a number of
> machine shops selling gun Stuff ...some reasonable..some very
> expensive. Im seeing less and less of them however. That $75 hr
> machine time tends to eat up profits for a shop, even if its side
> work. I can, of course..do it a hell of a lot cheaper..working out of
> ones home is far cheaper.
>
> Got any good suggestions as to products I could make and sell that
> way?
>
> As for ideosyncrisies... my Newsgroup persona may or may not match my
> Real World persona....<VBG>
>
Let's see. Although he claims to be able to work like a young man he's
going on 60, and he's had a heart attack and a stroke. His job skills
are not translating into making money like they used to. So he's getting
old, his ability to make a good living is declining, and the economy is
in a bad way. It's obvious that he's someone who can no longer compete
and win in a capitalistic economic system. There are winners and losers
in that kind of system and while at one time he was able to win, meaning
make a good living, it is looking more and more like he won't be able to
find or do anything that will ever bring him in any kind of real money.
So he's now relegated to a class of people he always had contempt for,
those who are poor and can't make a go of it in a free market system.
It's time to face the facts. He's going to be poor because he can no
longer compete in the free market.
You can't help but wonder if this circumstance will finally show him the
weakness of a system where only the strongest, smartest, and luckiest,
can have good lives, and everybody else has to get by on the crumbs. He
probably never thought he would end up old, poor, and helpless, but
that's about where he is. The sad fact is that is where most Americans
wind up. That is what makes it so astonishing that they all seem to
think the capitalist system is so great. Most people end up losers and
yet they still think it's the greatest thing since sliced bread. In a
system where most of the players end up losers one has to wonder why.
Are they just stupid or are they brainwashed?
Hawke
Gunner Asch
wrote:
It was 3 months ago that job ended. When I took down Ceromet MPP in
Anaheim. Took me 4 months of 60 hour weeks to clean out that factory.
>You do realize that jobs require 40 hours weeks every week every month
>until you quit or are fired.
>I expect that it has been years since you put in even two 40 hour
>weeks in a row.
Seems that once again..your buffoonery bites you in the ass. After
having it happen time and time again...why do you keep doing this
bullshit? Or are you in it because you are a masochist and get a nut
when people kick your ass?
>The entire nation is loosing jobs, and you want to move to a place
>where you have to pay rent and then find a job that will not peter out
>on you in a month or so?
>Good luck with that.
So no states are doing ok? Then you are claiming that Obama really isnt
giving us Hope and Change?
>
>Did you ever look at doing peace work in your machine shop?
Ayup. Got cards in all the local places.
>Putting adds on crags list looking for contracts in areas that you say
>you can work?
Not a bad idea.
>Not just locally, but nationally, considering that you can ship the
>end result just like everyone else does.
So the rest of the nation reads Craigslist/Bakersfield?
Really?
>Look at advertising gun smiting, computer repair (you say you can do
>board level repair so computer repair should be a snap), machining
>peace rate, construction remodeling contracts, electrician contacts
>(even as a helper subcontracting to a licensed electrician), ect.
>
Indeed. Good suggestions all.
>None of the burger places hiring?
Actually...no.
>They would keep your electric on.
>What happened to your survival stash?
Im still doing ok on it. And will for another hummm..6 months or more.
I was putting out a lot with the son, daughter in law and the 2
grandkids eating out of it as well as my wife and myself.
>I lasted 2 years on mine, while applying for disability.
>You dieing off already?
No, and what gave you that idea? Hope?
>
>The oil field is always hiring deck hands.
Sure they are. And they pay $9hr because there are so many kids needing
work that they can keep the prices down.
>
>Oklahoma is one of the best spots in the nation job wise, with Tulsa
>and Oklahoma City being on all the good lists.
Yes?
>In Tulsa the place that make toilet paper is always hiring night shift
>fork lift drivers.
Yes?
>Pays $8 a hour on a 40 hour week and requires you to work 15 minutes
>each morning and 30 minutes each evening off the clock in addition to
>the paid 40 hour week.
Odd..thats against Federal law.
>All the temp places are hiring with a average of $8 a hour for what
>normally paid $15 a hour when things was good, back before Bush.
And now that the Obamassiah is in charge..things should have been better
within 6 months. Thats what the Demos claimed. You mean its gotten
worse? Imagine that.
>
>The factory across the road from my families farm commonly hires
>people with your skills, that can fix machine shops.
>They pay $10 a hour and require you to work a 40 hour week, every
>week, building pallets and shipping parts all day long if no machine
>needs fixed.
>
Now thats really good wages. Illegal aliens here in California would
turn up their noses at that wage. Unless you are flipping burgers or
changing linen in motels...nearly all jobs here in California pay over
$8 an hour...MickyDs pays $9-10 per hour.
Oh fuck yes..great wages.
And here I was only charging $75 an hour, plus travel plus mileage for
being a lowly machine tool tech..and getting work when other guys were
sitting next to a dead phone..because Im the cheapest.
$10 an hour eh? Ill certainly have to think about that. Gee..thats
$400 a week, before Unca Sam gets his 1/3rd cut.
Who wouldnt want to work for those kind of wages?
Ill get back to you on that....after Ive slept on it.
Gunner
Gunner Asch
>
>"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
>news:46rpg5h1qvh35qi0f...@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:02:48 -0500, "Rick" <nota...@one.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Jim Wilkins" <kb1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:62923ebe-62fc-4a49...@37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>>>On Nov 24, 8:03 pm, Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>> Anyone?
>>>>
>>>> Gunner
>>>
>>>Grand Rapids, Michigan.
>>>
>>>I second that....
>>
>> Ok..why?
>>
>> Gunner, originally a Michigan native.
>
>Then you're only a 3 hour drive away, lol...but you know what the humidity
>is like here sometimes..
Actually..Im 3 days away..since moving to California 30+ yrs ago...<G>
Gunner
"Aren't cats Libertarian? They just want to be left alone.
I think our dog is a Democrat, as he is always looking for a handout"
Unknown Usnet Poster
Heh, heh, I'm pretty sure my dog is a liberal - he has no balls.
Keyton
Gunner Asch
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:15:35 -0600, the infamous Don Foreman
><dfor...@NOSPAMgoldengate.net> scrawled the following:
>
>>On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:03:19 -0800, Gunner Asch
>--snip--
>>>Gunner
>--snip--
>
>>Your most consistent interest and passion has to do with guns. If
>>you're really serious about a new course, I'd say build on that. You
>>know guns and their use, you can respect people who respect guns, and
>>you have at least rudimentary skills in machining and smithing. The
>>people most likely to be tolerant of your idiosyncrasies are those who
>>appreciate and covet fine firearms and will pay handsomely to have
>>them made for them. There are people with money to spend even in
>>recessions. Hell, you know how nuts sales of AR-15's has been since
>>the election, even in a down economy.
>>
>>A few men with modest lathes, some tooling and considerable skills who
>>can craft rifles that win BR matches and/or craft pistols that are
>>exquisite in design and function have far more work than they can do
>>even in the present economy and perhaps especially at present. They
>>can live where ever they want and most do live in rural to remote
>>locales. Age doesn't matter, nor does physical frailty that
>>inevitably accompanies advancing age. You say you're good for another
>>15 to 20 and maybe you are, but I'll note that being 68 is definitely
>>different from being 56. YMMV.
>
>I'll bet that if he moved to somewhere outside of Vegas (similar
>desert weather, though colder in winter), he'd easily have a chance
>for a couple things:
>
>1) Be hired by Ignazio Piazza as an instructor for training folks at
>his Front Sight shooting city. (Not just a range, or so I've heard.)
No..its "not just a range"...and thats not a bad idea at all.
>
>2) With all his tooling and experience, fix guns and rig mechanisms
>for the aforementioned folks or their clients.
>
>You'd be an easily welcomed addition to Grass Pants, OR, too, Gunner,
>but you'd spend half your time derusting all your stash.
Gunner Asch
<dca...@krl.org> wrote:
>On Nov 25, 9:46�am, Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>
>
>> Bear in mind..that I live in California. �
>> Gunner
>
>But you are thinking of fixing that.
>
> Dan
Indeed
Gunner
Gunner Asch
wrote:
>
>Steve B wrote:
>>
>> "Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote
>>
>> > Im interested in perhaps moving out of California...heading anyplace
>> > that I can prosper enough to keep myself and my family alive and
>> > eating regularly.
>> >
>> > Anyone?
>> >
>> > Im not moving tommorow, next week or next month. Next
>> > year...shrug...gotta have someplace to go, before figuring out how to
>> > get there.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Gunner
>>
>> Don't know anything about Idaho, but I like Utah. Not a great state for
>> machinery, or manufacturing, but it's all in the attitude of the person. I
>> do know that there's a different mindset in Idaho and Utah that are
>> contagious once one's been here any length of time. Makes you just deal
>> with whatever happens, because you never want to go back to You Know Where.
>> I live in rural Utah, and I see about one black person a month. Some
>> Hispanics. I figure the tsunami is coming, but for now, it's refreshing. I
>> hear about one boom box in a car a week, and that always has a California
>> plate and a local cop on their tail.
>>
>> I still have to go down to Vegas for business, and I carry a gun, mace, and
>> a police scanner all the time. Around here, stupid people seem to self
>> destruct in a short time, are found (or not found) dead in the woods from
>> hunting accidents, or just beaten by the local Bubbas until they move on.
>>
>> You don't have long left. Decide whether you want to make money or live
>> life. There's a difference, ya know?
>>
>> Steve
>
>Definitely Texas, probably west or north west to get some semi familiar
>terrain and climate. Certainly the economy in Texas is doing better than
>most of the country. No state income tax, relatively low cost of living
>especially out of the metro areas, etc. And most importantly, you have a
>bunch of RCMers in TX ready to help you unpack all your machines when
>you move.
Definately gonna keep that in mind.
Any towns in particular?
That I can make a living at?
Gunner Asch
<desert...@dishmail.net> wrote:
>
>"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote > How is the humitity in
>most of the state..or is as you say..three
>> different areas and 3 different humidities?
>>
>> I live in the High Desert...3-18% humidity most of the time in the
>> summer, winter ..well..we often have tule fog..but its not 120F either
>> in the winter
>>
>> Gunner
>
>I'd say that it comes in three degrees, coastal, hill country, and west
>Texas. The two closer to the coast are more humid, but the west Texas areas
>are a little drier, and have harsher winters. I like the central Texas hill
>country myself, and Austin is rockin' right now financially. If you go
>there, let me know, I have some advertising ties. Oilfield is all over
>Texas, so unless you are in the hotshot service business and need to be
>closer to the coast, you could live anywhere in the state.
>
>Take a vacation and look at it. You've seen McAllen area, and that is
>transitional into the deserts of Mexico.
>
>You might also look at Lafayette, Louisiana, as there is a lot of oil
>business there, but also competition. Terribly humid, but very cool place
>culturally, the food is fantastic, the people are a hoot, and you can't beat
>the fishing and hunting. Close enough to service the whole Gulf Coast. I
>lived there about eight years, and loved it.
>
>Just some thoughts.
>
>Steve
>
I lived in Abbyville and Crowley for a while, when I worked for Western
Geo. My sister was a deputy there until about a year ago when she
moved to Kansas.
I loved the area. Cajins is the warmist people.
Gunner Asch
<ignoram...@NOSPAM.20054.invalid> wrote:
Illinois is a big Gun State?
pyotr filipivich
or about Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:29:37 -0800 did write/type or cause to
appear in alt.machines.cnc the following:
>
>>>
>>> Alabama. With all of the car manufacturing that has moved there, it is the
>>> next Detroit, without all of the poverty. Should be plenty of business for
>>> a man with your talents. Plus deer season is several months long.
>>>
>>> Alabama 2009 - 2010 Deer Season Dates
>>> Bow Hunting - Oct 15th - Jan 31st
>>> Muzzleloaders - Nov 16th - Nov 20th
>>> Gun Season - Nov 21st - Jan 31st
>>>
>>
>>http://www.aidt.edu/jobs/
>>
>>
>One thing Im concerned about ..Ive lived in California for 30 yrs...in
>the high desert, where the humidity is hardly ever above 15%..and
>often 8-10%. In the various trips Ive made servicing CNC
>lathes..there have been several states where the humidity simply
>curled my lungs inside out. Is Alabama one of those? Hot I dont
>mind..hot and humid takes all the wind out of my sails.
Hot and humid. The old south took to air conditioning like a
godsend. Friends of mine moved up to Seattle from Atlanta. He went
to look for housing, and she asked about each one "Does it have
'air'?" (meaning air conditioning. Took him a while to convince her
that 75 degrees in Seattle isn't "hot" (muggy) like it is in Atlanta.
http://www.bestplaces.net has comparison data for most of the
country. Eg:
City Overview
As of 2009, Taft's population is 9,075 people. Since 2000, it has had
a population growth of 42.97 percent.
The median home cost in Taft is $135,610. Home appreciation the last
year has been -31.60 percent.
Compared to the rest of the country, Taft's cost of living is 9.38%
Lower than the U.S. average.
Taft public schools spend $6,335 per student. The average school
expenditure in the U.S. is $6,058. There are about 19 students per
teacher in Taft.
The unemployment rate in Taft is 14.70 percent(U.S. avg. is 8.50%).
Recent job growth is Negative. Taft jobs have Decreased by 0.10
percent.
On average, there are 278 sunny days per year in Taft, CA. The July
high is around 98 degrees. The January low is 43. Our comfort index,
which is based on humidity during the hot months, is a 50 out of 100,
where higher is more comfortable. The US average on the comfort index
is 44.
===
And you can take that as you will. Nice to know Taft is above
average for comfort.
===
County Overview
As of 2009, Mobile County's population is 404,406 people. Since 2000,
it has had a population growth of 1.08 percent.
The median home cost in Mobile County is $103,000. Home appreciation
the last year has been -4.80 percent.
Compared to the rest of the country, Mobile County's cost of living is
22.08% Lower than the U.S. average.
Mobile County public schools spend $4,247 per student. The average
school expenditure in the U.S. is $6,058. There are about 16 students
per teacher in Mobile County.
The unemployment rate in Mobile County is 8.50 percent(U.S. avg. is
8.50%). Recent job growth is Negative. Mobile County jobs have
Decreased by 4.90 percent.
On average, there are 218 sunny days per year in Mobile County, AL.
The July high is around 91 degrees. The January low is 42. Our comfort
index, which is based on humidity during the hot months, is a 28 out
of 100, where higher is more comfortable. The US average on the
comfort index is 44.
==
That comfort index is a guesstimate, but it is something to work
with.
One more thing to wile the hours away when you should be doing
something else.
tschus
pyotr
-
pyotr filipivich
We will drink no whiskey before its nine.
It's eight fifty eight. Close enough!
RBnDFW
Odessa maybe
Houston, but the humidity will kill you
A friend of mine had a lucrative business in Houston making some sort of
valves for the fracturing guys. Gas drilling has really slowed down,
and his business has too.
I'm in DFW and I see whole machine shops for sale on CL regularly of
late. But I also know others that seem to be doing well.
Good deals on machine tools till sell fast here, but the high-dollar pro
stuff seems to sit unsold.
YMMV
wmbjk...@citlink.net
<dfor...@NOSPAMgoldengate.net> wrote:
You have hope, gawd knows why.
> I don't even give a damn
>whether or not Gunner pays his taxes.
His oldest debts *aren't* taxes. But it doesn't matter if it's taxes
or whatever bills, people who make a habit of ignoring their
responsibilities are unlikely to be good hires. Employers know that,
and these days it's easier than ever to weed out the applicants who
are most likely to be a waste of time. Not that it takes much work in
this case considering that gummy posted a sort of a resume where he
complains about people who are "sucking on a paycheck". Talk about a
red flag. Start his own biz? Forget it, he tried that and failed
spectacularly.
> I merely observe that he has
>skills that are quite marketable and in demand right now and are
>sustainable well past usual retirement age. Getting an FFL would be
>obligatory. Finding work and establishing a reputation and growing
>clientele outside of and well beyond CA would be the challenge.
I doubt that he has sufficient skills to make a living at firearms. He
seems to struggle at telling the difference between net and gross. And
I know he doesn't have the will to succeed at anything that requires
diligence.
>I'll defer to you and others to judge and condemn.
You've *already* judged... wrongly, but aren't willing to admit it. If
some "libtard', to use the term favored by gummy et al, were posting
the same sob stories here, a whole bunch of phony conservatives would
be on him like ants at a picnic. But since it's a self-professed
libertarian/conservative/"democrat" <snorf> who's making a mockery of
conservatism, some of you prefer to pretend that he can or might
change his stripes. It's fricken ludicrous, and you know it. Only
recently gummy refused to get up from his keyboard to do work that he
"hates", but this week he's going to pack up and start over in Idaho?
LOL Oh wait, he didn't say that he'd actually move, he just wants to
talk talk talk about it. Can it get any more ridiculous? Yes, it can
and it will.
Wayne
Pete C.
I couldn't tell you. I brought my job with me when I moved here.
rayk...@rnsmte.com
"Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
summer= 95 degree @ 99% humidity
You couldent pay me enough to live there.
Richard the Dreaded Libertarian
>
> Im interested in perhaps moving out of California...heading anyplace that
> I can prosper enough to keep myself and my family alive and eating
> regularly.
>
China?
Good Luck!
Rich
ATP*
"Buerste" <bue...@att.net> wrote in message
news:_P5Pm.58556$rE5....@newsfe08.iad...
>
> "Gunner Asch" <gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
>> California is dying as an industrial power. It at one time was the 7th
>> largest economy in the world. No longer. Its the #3 hardest hit state
>> in the looming Great Depression Part Deux, only behind Michigan with
>> its Rust Belt.
>>
>> And Im not getting any work in my current trade, machine tool repair.
>>
>> So Ive been looking around a bit at other states for employment..and
>> Id like to ask you folks for your input.
>
> Decide where you want to go, let me know and I will find the closest
> co-manufacturer, customer or supplier in my Rolodex of friends. The offer
> for Cleveland is still open but I filled the cherry job I wanted you for
> but I'll find a way to make room in the budget.
Face it, Tom, he's just not that into you.....
gine what it would be like for a libtard wanting to move to a new locale.
> He would be inquiring about Cheese-Checks, HEAP, ADC, Workers Comp,
> Unions, abortion clinics, sodomy laws and the closest ACLU office.
That would be a few of the conservatives on this NG, as evidenced by recent
admissions.
John R. Carroll
> Steve B wrote:
>
>> If that is Hal's idea of Texans, then I think he would be maladjusted
>> anywhere he lived. I've lived in a lot of places, and not found one
>> state yet that didn't have a lot of good people mixed in. It's
>> where YOU live that matters, and that's inside your head. Or I
>> could be wrong, and there's something wrong with everybody ELSE.
>
> I've always wondered about this.
>
> I've met several transplanted Texans in California
> and the vast majority of them seemed to be jerks.
They seem to think that being a Texan means something, in and of itself.
> Later, I spent considerable time in the Dallas/
> Fort Worth area on business and had never met such
> a nice bunch of people. What's up with that?
That's my exact experience. If I have to be dropped penniles and naked from
an airplane, let it be over Dallas.
Great folks.
>Does Texas export their jerks to California?
Not exclusively.
Every so often they export their garbage to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
The beauty part is that the turds float back home in self defense.
--
John R. Carroll
ATP*
"Hawke" <davesm...@digitalpath.net> wrote in message
news:hek6pk$ilj$1...@aioe.org...
Actually, most do quite well by historical standards. Obviously the choices
people make along the way impact how well they're doing at the end stage.
Gunner Asch
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>The unemployment rate in Taft is 14.70 percent(U.S. avg. is 8.50%).
>Recent job growth is Negative. Taft jobs have Decreased by 0.10
>percent.
>
>On average, there are 278 sunny days per year in Taft, CA. The July
>high is around 98 degrees. The January low is 43. Our comfort index,
>which is based on humidity during the hot months, is a 50 out of 100,
>where higher is more comfortable. The US average on the comfort index
>is 44.
>
>===
>
> And you can take that as you will. Nice to know Taft is above
>average for comfort.
Chuckle...they dont mention that it starts to warm up after July..and
doesnt start to cool off until October.
But..it doesnt snow here and its generally "comfortable" and swamp
coolers are the thing to have for cooling. Humidity is very low
compared to the eastern states.
Gunner
Gunner Asch
hummm...some truth there..indeed.
Gunner Asch
wrote:
What..the Parakeet hasnt yet started waving around a copy of the
Manifesto and screaming Revolutions...Revolution!!!!
Chuckle...the work force will be readjusted in less than three years.
And he will be dead. Shrug.. Couldnt happen to a better guy.