On Fri, 7 Sep 2012 16:42:48 -0400, "Alec Fraser" <G...@bass.gov> wrote:
>sewer(where the rich people shit out
>those coins)
Wouldnt that be considered a toll, like a pay toilet? That means that
is off the block, because they would be directly paying for the sewer
system that they use. Unlike the poor, who shit and never pay any
taxes.
>^^^^^^
The LAZY(aka losers/ Democrats/Occupiers) just shit in the park and the side walks like a mutt, never wiping , never caring about how they smell or look, then complain why they can't be hired as even greeters at a 7/11.
--
You just opened the window for a glimpse at the liberal mindset. You
people think, for some unknown reason, that since you are infinitely
more "intelligient" than the "average" citizen then it's not only your
God given right, but a responsibilty to tell everyone else how they
should live, spend their money, what to eat, what to drive, how much
to eat and drink and what to set your thermostat to. Of course, those
same rules don't apply to you because you, being a highly educated
individual with a degree in the "arts", don't have to abide by those
same rules. Thank GOD you are in the minority.
"Robert Westergrom"
> On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 13:11:43 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
> <mike.terr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >Gunner wrote:
> >> The Great Cull will remove them AND any medical expenses. Afterall...a
> >> bit of barbed wire or a single round to the back of the skull is very
> >> very cheap.
> >> Unless you have a good way to sterilize them while they are penned
> >> and ready to be hooked to a plow.
> > Plasma cutter, and a hot branding iron to cauterize the wound. ;-)
> Nice! I like it!!
And a nail gun to give them their Penicillin shots, even if they are
allergic to it. ;-)
> Wouldnt that be considered a toll, like a pay toilet? That means that
> is off the block, because they would be directly paying for the sewer
> system that they use. Unlike the poor, who shit and never pay any
> taxes.
You really are too stupid to live. Sewers are paid for by taxes on
the water you use. In some places you pay it, even where you can't
connect to the sewer system.
> Businesses are not people, they are pass through entities. They do not
> consume, because they are not consumers. They exist to move and
> transform materiel, provide services etc and make money.
> Taxes that are collected from business are ultimately passed on to
> consumers and to the owners of the business.
> That said, the society cannot live without collecting taxes, and
> businesses can be a most efficient avenue for collecting certain types
> of taxes, so I personally cannot see why not tax the businesses.
> Who owns a business and pays taxes
You'd whine like crazy, if you had to pay inventory taxes and be
audited every quarter. You're a junk dealer. Try it on a manufacturing
business that does millions of dollars worth of business per quarter.
>> Businesses are not people, they are pass through entities. They do not
>> consume, because they are not consumers. They exist to move and
>> transform materiel, provide services etc and make money.
>> Taxes that are collected from business are ultimately passed on to
>> consumers and to the owners of the business.
>> That said, the society cannot live without collecting taxes, and
>> businesses can be a most efficient avenue for collecting certain types
>> of taxes, so I personally cannot see why not tax the businesses.
>> Who owns a business and pays taxes
> You'd whine like crazy, if you had to pay inventory taxes and be
> audited every quarter. You're a junk dealer. Try it on a manufacturing
> business that does millions of dollars worth of business per quarter.
I would have to report my inventory at my cost.
As a "junk dealer", as you gracefully put it, it so happens that my
inventory costs me next to nothing in comparison to how much I sell it
for. So, had I been subject to inventory tax, I would not have to pay
all that much money.
Any business that does millions of dollars worth per quarter, should
expect plentiful paperwork and compliance costs, I still do not see a
problem. While I am a procrastinator and hate paperwork, I have to say
that it is manageable for me.
I find that running a small realspace business is easy and fun, but
very time consuming.
>> Wouldnt that be considered a toll, like a pay toilet? That means that
>> is off the block, because they would be directly paying for the sewer
>> system that they use. Unlike the poor, who shit and never pay any
>> taxes.
> You really are too stupid to live. Sewers are paid for by taxes on
> the water you use. In some places you pay it, even where you can't
> connect to the sewer system.
Actually, sewers are generally paid for by actual bills on your water usage, either rolled into the total or as a separate line on the bill.
Never heard were sewers were being paid for by taxes.
> On 2012-09-07, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > Ignoramus11166 wrote:
> >> Businesses are not people, they are pass through entities. They do not
> >> consume, because they are not consumers. They exist to move and
> >> transform materiel, provide services etc and make money.
> >> Taxes that are collected from business are ultimately passed on to
> >> consumers and to the owners of the business.
> >> That said, the society cannot live without collecting taxes, and
> >> businesses can be a most efficient avenue for collecting certain types
> >> of taxes, so I personally cannot see why not tax the businesses.
> >> Who owns a business and pays taxes
> > You'd whine like crazy, if you had to pay inventory taxes and be
> > audited every quarter. You're a junk dealer. Try it on a manufacturing
> > business that does millions of dollars worth of business per quarter.
> I would have to report my inventory at my cost.
> As a "junk dealer", as you gracefully put it, it so happens that my
> inventory costs me next to nothing in comparison to how much I sell it
> for. So, had I been subject to inventory tax, I would not have to pay
> all that much money.
You would, if you had to pay tax on the expected resale value on
every unsold item, till it finally sold. That's one reason people sell
you stuff at Sanford & son prices.
> Any business that does millions of dollars worth per quarter, should
> expect plentiful paperwork and compliance costs, I still do not see a
> problem. While I am a procrastinator and hate paperwork, I have to say
> that it is manageable for me.
> I find that running a small realspace business is easy and fun, but
> very time consuming.
>> Businesses are not people, they are pass through entities. They do not
>> consume, because they are not consumers. They exist to move and
>> transform materiel, provide services etc and make money.
>> Taxes that are collected from business are ultimately passed on to
>> consumers and to the owners of the business.
>> That said, the society cannot live without collecting taxes, and
>> businesses can be a most efficient avenue for collecting certain types
>> of taxes, so I personally cannot see why not tax the businesses.
>> Who owns a business and pays taxes
> You'd whine like crazy, if you had to pay inventory taxes and be
>audited every quarter. You're a junk dealer. Try it on a manufacturing
>business that does millions of dollars worth of business per quarter.
Maybe he should agitate for a Washington State type "Business and
Occupation" tax - which is based upon gross receipts.
--
pyotr
Go not to the Net for answers, for it will tell you Yes and no. And
you are a bloody fool, only an ignorant cretin would even ask the
question, forty two, 47, the second door, and how many blonde lawyers does it take to change a lightbulb.
> >> Wouldnt that be considered a toll, like a pay toilet? That means that
> >> is off the block, because they would be directly paying for the sewer
> >> system that they use. Unlike the poor, who shit and never pay any
> >> taxes.
> > You really are too stupid to live. Sewers are paid for by taxes on
> > the water you use. In some places you pay it, even where you can't
> > connect to the sewer system.
> Actually, sewers are generally paid for by actual bills on your water usage,
> either rolled into the total or as a separate line on the bill.
> Never heard were sewers were being paid for by taxes.
Property taxes on a home without a sewer connection, about 45 years
ago. then they changed it to part of the water bill, whether you had a
sewer connection, or not. It was a really screwed up system, like when
the city of St. Louis wanted the Cable TV companies to pay for all trash
collections, since Cable TV was a 'luxury'.
> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net> on Fri, 07 Sep 2012
> 19:28:59 -0400 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
> >Ignoramus11166 wrote:
> >> Businesses are not people, they are pass through entities. They do not
> >> consume, because they are not consumers. They exist to move and
> >> transform materiel, provide services etc and make money.
> >> Taxes that are collected from business are ultimately passed on to
> >> consumers and to the owners of the business.
> >> That said, the society cannot live without collecting taxes, and
> >> businesses can be a most efficient avenue for collecting certain types
> >> of taxes, so I personally cannot see why not tax the businesses.
> >> Who owns a business and pays taxes
> > You'd whine like crazy, if you had to pay inventory taxes and be
> >audited every quarter. You're a junk dealer. Try it on a manufacturing
> >business that does millions of dollars worth of business per quarter.
> Maybe he should agitate for a Washington State type "Business and
> Occupation" tax - which is based upon gross receipts.
Or just try living in the real world. He is so out of touch with
reality, that it's scary.
>> >> Wouldnt that be considered a toll, like a pay toilet? That means that
>> >> is off the block, because they would be directly paying for the sewer
>> >> system that they use. Unlike the poor, who shit and never pay any
>> >> taxes.
>> > You really are too stupid to live. Sewers are paid for by taxes on
>> > the water you use. In some places you pay it, even where you can't
>> > connect to the sewer system.
>> Actually, sewers are generally paid for by actual bills on your water >> usage,
>> either rolled into the total or as a separate line on the bill.
>> Never heard were sewers were being paid for by taxes.
> Property taxes on a home without a sewer connection, about 45 years
> ago. then they changed it to part of the water bill, whether you had a
> sewer connection, or not. It was a really screwed up system, like when
> the city of St. Louis wanted the Cable TV companies to pay for all trash
> collections, since Cable TV was a 'luxury'.
Hmmm... 45 years ago... not really current or relevant.
>>>>"You can't tax business. Business doesn't pay taxes. It collects
>>>>taxes."
>>>>- Ronald Reagan
>>> Then you tax business owners and CEOs 90% income tax no deductions.
>>And they will simply either move their business over seas, or they will >>raise the price of their products and allow the consumer to pay their tax.
>>In the end, all you will do is move more jobs and factories overseas, >>worsening the US economy.
>You miss the point. Don't tax businesses at all. You are correct for
>once. They will just add that to the cost of their products or
>services and pass the cost on to the public. So eliminate all profits
>an use taxes on business, and replace it with a very high tax rate on
>the personal income of anyone making over 1 million a year. 90% on
>personal income. So if a corporation wants to keep their money
>invested in the corporation and are using it appropriately to grow
>their business and create jobs then no taxes. As soon as they pay
>their CEO 1.5 million a year and bonuses and profit sharing in the
>millions, then that money is taxed at a very high rate. No
>exceptions, no deductions for personal income. Flat rate for
>everyone. Of course it will never happen. The wealthy and their
>lawyers control the system and they like it just the way it is.
Just what is the purpose and the justification
for taxing high earners at a high rate (even after
a deductible)?
Yo'all are bitching about capital gains being
taxed at a lower rate, why, don't you think owning
something for years before selling it should give
the owner a break, and a reason to sell it, rather
than keep it forever?
Why don't you just ask everybody to give
all their money didn't one of the Jones boys do that?
>>>>>"You can't tax business. Business doesn't pay taxes. It collects
>>>>>taxes."
>>>>>- Ronald Reagan
>>>> Then you tax business owners and CEOs 90% income tax no deductions.
>>>And they will simply either move their business over seas, or they will >>>raise the price of their products and allow the consumer to pay their tax.
>>>In the end, all you will do is move more jobs and factories overseas, >>>worsening the US economy.
>>You miss the point. Don't tax businesses at all. You are correct for
>>once. They will just add that to the cost of their products or
>>services and pass the cost on to the public. So eliminate all profits
>>an use taxes on business, and replace it with a very high tax rate on
>>the personal income of anyone making over 1 million a year. 90% on
>>personal income. So if a corporation wants to keep their money
>>invested in the corporation and are using it appropriately to grow
>>their business and create jobs then no taxes. As soon as they pay
>>their CEO 1.5 million a year and bonuses and profit sharing in the
>>millions, then that money is taxed at a very high rate. No
>>exceptions, no deductions for personal income. Flat rate for
>>everyone. Of course it will never happen. The wealthy and their
>>lawyers control the system and they like it just the way it is.
> Just what is the purpose and the justification
>for taxing high earners at a high rate (even after
>a deductible)?
> Yo'all are bitching about capital gains being
>taxed at a lower rate, why, don't you think owning
>something for years before selling it should give
>the owner a break, and a reason to sell it, rather
>than keep it forever?
> Why don't you just ask everybody to give
>all their money didn't one of the Jones boys do that?
This all boils down to the new leftist mantra.
"You didn't make that. We helped you. Therefore, your income belongs
to us."
>>>>>"You can't tax business. Business doesn't pay taxes. It collects
>>>>>taxes."
>>>>>- Ronald Reagan
>>>> Then you tax business owners and CEOs 90% income tax no deductions.
>>>And they will simply either move their business over seas, or they will
>>>raise the price of their products and allow the consumer to pay their >>>tax.
>>>In the end, all you will do is move more jobs and factories overseas,
>>>worsening the US economy.
>>You miss the point. Don't tax businesses at all. You are correct for
>>once. They will just add that to the cost of their products or
>>services and pass the cost on to the public. So eliminate all profits
>>an use taxes on business, and replace it with a very high tax rate on
>>the personal income of anyone making over 1 million a year. 90% on
>>personal income. So if a corporation wants to keep their money
>>invested in the corporation and are using it appropriately to grow
>>their business and create jobs then no taxes. As soon as they pay
>>their CEO 1.5 million a year and bonuses and profit sharing in the
>>millions, then that money is taxed at a very high rate. No
>>exceptions, no deductions for personal income. Flat rate for
>>everyone. Of course it will never happen. The wealthy and their
>>lawyers control the system and they like it just the way it is.
> Just what is the purpose and the justification
> for taxing high earners at a high rate (even after
> a deductible)?
> Yo'all are bitching about capital gains being
> taxed at a lower rate, why, don't you think owning
> something for years before selling it should give
> the owner a break, and a reason to sell it, rather
> than keep it forever?
> Why don't you just ask everybody to give
> all their money didn't one of the Jones boys do that?
Hell, why hasn't Dudu sold what he doesn't need and give the money to someone less well off?
> >> >> Wouldnt that be considered a toll, like a pay toilet? That means that
> >> >> is off the block, because they would be directly paying for the sewer
> >> >> system that they use. Unlike the poor, who shit and never pay any
> >> >> taxes.
> >> > You really are too stupid to live. Sewers are paid for by taxes on
> >> > the water you use. In some places you pay it, even where you can't
> >> > connect to the sewer system.
> >> Actually, sewers are generally paid for by actual bills on your water
> >> usage,
> >> either rolled into the total or as a separate line on the bill.
> >> Never heard were sewers were being paid for by taxes.
> > Property taxes on a home without a sewer connection, about 45 years
> > ago. then they changed it to part of the water bill, whether you had a
> > sewer connection, or not. It was a really screwed up system, like when
> > the city of St. Louis wanted the Cable TV companies to pay for all trash
> > collections, since Cable TV was a 'luxury'.
> Hmmm... 45 years ago... not really current or relevant.
Other than the fact that they will find any way they can, to charge
you to get rid of your waste.
>>>>>>"You can't tax business. Business doesn't pay taxes. It collects
>>>>>>taxes."
>>>>>>- Ronald Reagan
>>>>> Then you tax business owners and CEOs 90% income tax no deductions.
>>>>And they will simply either move their business over seas, or they
>>>>will raise the price of their products and allow the consumer to pay
>>>>their tax.
>>>>In the end, all you will do is move more jobs and factories overseas,
>>>>worsening the US economy.
>>> You miss the point.
>> That you're dealing with fantasy rather than reality?
>> Oh, I get the point that what you say has little to nothing to do with
>> reality.
>>> Don't tax businesses at all. You are correct for
>>> once. They will just add that to the cost of their products or
>>> services and pass the cost on to the public.
>> And you think taxing the owners instead would change that?
>> Free hint: If an owner isn't getting a large enough return for his >> investment after taxes......then he's either going to close the
>> business, move it to were it's more profitable, or have the company
>> increase the profit margin by increasing prices.
>Or by outsourcing to reduce costs including labor.
>> None of those are good for the US economy or the American worker.
>Well, the first option is debatable. I agree on the latter point.
>>> So eliminate all profits
>>> an use taxes on business, and replace it with a very high tax rate on
>>> the personal income of anyone making over 1 million a year.
>> At which point they will take action to replace that lost income.
>Or not spend the money to start up the business. Perhaps they will all >move to the public sector and then who will pay for them?
>> Oh, and how exactly as an advocate of a classless society justify your
>> desire to invoke classes and differences between the classes.
>> Seems rather......hypocritical....of you to do that given your strong >> assertions that you want to promote a classless society were all are
>> treated equally.
>> Seems you were lying then, or you're lying now, or you're so confused
>> about your own beliefs that you don't know what you're saying.
>It just sounds like one of Dudu's meanderings.
No, it's a very commonly held opinion on that's what we need to do to
recover our economy and at the same time repair our crumbling
infrastructure. It's the only thing that makes any sense.
>> On 2012-09-07, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> > Ignoramus11166 wrote:
>> >> Businesses are not people, they are pass through entities. They do not
>> >> consume, because they are not consumers. They exist to move and
>> >> transform materiel, provide services etc and make money.
>> >> Taxes that are collected from business are ultimately passed on to
>> >> consumers and to the owners of the business.
>> >> That said, the society cannot live without collecting taxes, and
>> >> businesses can be a most efficient avenue for collecting certain types
>> >> of taxes, so I personally cannot see why not tax the businesses.
>> >> Who owns a business and pays taxes
>> > You'd whine like crazy, if you had to pay inventory taxes and be
>> > audited every quarter. You're a junk dealer. Try it on a manufacturing
>> > business that does millions of dollars worth of business per quarter.
>> I would have to report my inventory at my cost.
>> As a "junk dealer", as you gracefully put it, it so happens that my
>> inventory costs me next to nothing in comparison to how much I sell it
>> for. So, had I been subject to inventory tax, I would not have to pay
>> all that much money.
> You would, if you had to pay tax on the expected resale value on
> every unsold item, till it finally sold.
No one does value inventory at some imaginable "expected resale
value". It is valued at cost.
> That's one reason people sell you stuff at Sanford & son prices.
That has never been a reason, as far as I knew. They either lazy, or
stupid, or sell for cash, or out of business at auction.
<rdsandman[spamremove]@comcast.net> wrote:
>BTW, what do you think is a good income tax rate for the 47% who pay no >taxes today? Or the top 50% which pays 97% of them.
Conservatives love to bring up that point, bt the bottom 50% don't pay
much taxes because they have no money. You simply need to tax those
who have been making all the money, enriching themselves at the
expense of the rest of society.
You may consider the ability to bleed everyone else dry as a virtue,
but ethically it isn't. Greed is not a virtue. It is one of the
seven deadly sins.
>> Force them to reinvest in American business or else pay most of what
>> they make back into the country as taxes. The government can then use
>> that money to fund infrastructure projects putting people back to
>> work.
>In any case, all that money the government uses comes from the private >sector. That is the engine that provides everything the public sector >runs on.
Exactly. And without good jobs there is no demand for goods and
services from the public sector because no one has any money.
That's the part about the oligarchy that baffles me. They seem to be
carrying out an all out war on the middle class but at the same time
are destroying their markets. One would think they would be smarter
than that.
> Either way the American people win. Simple really. Too bad
>> the weathy run our government so unfortunately it will never happen.
>> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net> on Fri, 07 Sep 2012
>> 19:28:59 -0400 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
>> >Ignoramus11166 wrote:
>> >> Businesses are not people, they are pass through entities. They do not
>> >> consume, because they are not consumers. They exist to move and
>> >> transform materiel, provide services etc and make money.
>> >> Taxes that are collected from business are ultimately passed on to
>> >> consumers and to the owners of the business.
>> >> That said, the society cannot live without collecting taxes, and
>> >> businesses can be a most efficient avenue for collecting certain types
>> >> of taxes, so I personally cannot see why not tax the businesses.
>> >> Who owns a business and pays taxes
>> > You'd whine like crazy, if you had to pay inventory taxes and be
>> >audited every quarter. You're a junk dealer. Try it on a manufacturing
>> >business that does millions of dollars worth of business per quarter.
>> Maybe he should agitate for a Washington State type "Business and
>> Occupation" tax - which is based upon gross receipts.
> Or just try living in the real world. He is so out of touch with
> reality, that it's scary.
Yeah, you probably think that I must be out of touch with reality,
since I do not watch Fox News daily.
But as far as I am concerned, I am out every day buying real assets,
from a variety of people or businesses, with my own money, taking 100%
of risk on all my purchases, and then selling the same assets to real
customers who have the right to return them if not satisfied.
In addition, I have normal costs and overhead of doing business.
In the light of the above, to me, I have a good sense of reality if I
can make enough money under the above conditions.
>> BTW, what do you think is a good income tax rate for the 47% who pay no
>> taxes today? Or the top 50% which pays 97% of them.
> Conservatives love to bring up that point, bt the bottom 50% don't pay
> much taxes because they have no money. You simply need to tax those
> who have been making all the money, enriching themselves at the
> expense of the rest of society.
You keep saying that bit of bullshit as if it means something. You want to believe that those who make a lot of money are doing so unfairly - that they're doing something illicit and don't deserve to make the money in the first place, which is why you believe it is just to confiscate it from them.
You are wrong. Your belief is baseless. They earn a lot of money because they do something that creates a lot of value. Because they create a lot of value, they *deserve* the money, and they deserve to keep close to all of it.
>> On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 13:11:43 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>> <mike.terr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >Gunner wrote:
>> >> The Great Cull will remove them AND any medical expenses. Afterall...a
>> >> bit of barbed wire or a single round to the back of the skull is very
>> >> very cheap.
>> >> Unless you have a good way to sterilize them while they are penned
>> >> and ready to be hooked to a plow.
>> > Plasma cutter, and a hot branding iron to cauterize the wound. ;-)
>> Nice! I like it!!
> And a nail gun to give them their Penicillin shots, even if they are
>allergic to it. ;-)
In both arms!!!
Though..that would make it easier to hook em to a plow...humm..they
couldnt pick at the straps...yes!!!!
Gunner
--
You just opened the window for a glimpse at the liberal mindset. You
people think, for some unknown reason, that since you are infinitely
more "intelligient" than the "average" citizen then it's not only your
God given right, but a responsibilty to tell everyone else how they
should live, spend their money, what to eat, what to drive, how much
to eat and drink and what to set your thermostat to. Of course, those
same rules don't apply to you because you, being a highly educated
individual with a degree in the "arts", don't have to abide by those
same rules. Thank GOD you are in the minority.
"Robert Westergrom"
>> >> >> Wouldnt that be considered a toll, like a pay toilet? That means >> >> >> that
>> >> >> is off the block, because they would be directly paying for the >> >> >> sewer
>> >> >> system that they use. Unlike the poor, who shit and never pay any
>> >> >> taxes.
>> >> > You really are too stupid to live. Sewers are paid for by taxes >> >> > on
>> >> > the water you use. In some places you pay it, even where you can't
>> >> > connect to the sewer system.
>> >> Actually, sewers are generally paid for by actual bills on your water
>> >> usage,
>> >> either rolled into the total or as a separate line on the bill.
>> >> Never heard were sewers were being paid for by taxes.
>> > Property taxes on a home without a sewer connection, about 45 years
>> > ago. then they changed it to part of the water bill, whether you had a
>> > sewer connection, or not. It was a really screwed up system, like when
>> > the city of St. Louis wanted the Cable TV companies to pay for all >> > trash
>> > collections, since Cable TV was a 'luxury'.
>> Hmmm... 45 years ago... not really current or relevant.
> Other than the fact that they will find any way they can, to charge
> you to get rid of your waste.
Interesting, since my wastes are disposed of for free.....
>>>>>>>"You can't tax business. Business doesn't pay taxes. It collects
>>>>>>>taxes."
>>>>>>>- Ronald Reagan
>>>>>> Then you tax business owners and CEOs 90% income tax no deductions.
>>>>>And they will simply either move their business over seas, or they
>>>>>will raise the price of their products and allow the consumer to pay
>>>>>their tax.
>>>>>In the end, all you will do is move more jobs and factories overseas,
>>>>>worsening the US economy.
>>>> You miss the point.
>>> That you're dealing with fantasy rather than reality?
>>> Oh, I get the point that what you say has little to nothing to do with
>>> reality.
>>>> Don't tax businesses at all. You are correct for
>>>> once. They will just add that to the cost of their products or
>>>> services and pass the cost on to the public.
>>> And you think taxing the owners instead would change that?
>>> Free hint: If an owner isn't getting a large enough return for his
>>> investment after taxes......then he's either going to close the
>>> business, move it to were it's more profitable, or have the company
>>> increase the profit margin by increasing prices.
>>Or by outsourcing to reduce costs including labor.
>>> None of those are good for the US economy or the American worker.
>>Well, the first option is debatable. I agree on the latter point.
>>>> So eliminate all profits
>>>> an use taxes on business, and replace it with a very high tax rate on
>>>> the personal income of anyone making over 1 million a year.
>>> At which point they will take action to replace that lost income.
>>Or not spend the money to start up the business. Perhaps they will all
>>move to the public sector and then who will pay for them?
>>> Oh, and how exactly as an advocate of a classless society justify your
>>> desire to invoke classes and differences between the classes.
>>> Seems rather......hypocritical....of you to do that given your strong
>>> assertions that you want to promote a classless society were all are
>>> treated equally.
>>> Seems you were lying then, or you're lying now, or you're so confused
>>> about your own beliefs that you don't know what you're saying.
>>It just sounds like one of Dudu's meanderings.
> No, it's a very commonly held opinion on that's what we need to do to
> recover our economy and at the same time repair our crumbling
> infrastructure. It's the only thing that makes any sense.
So you're advocating class warfare, punative taxation, and inequality.
And you call yourself a democratic socialist......
Well, that always seems to be how it ends up isn't it?
Steal from the rich to give to the poor until everyone is poor.
>> No, it's a very commonly held opinion on that's what we need to do to
>> recover our economy and at the same time repair our crumbling
>> infrastructure. It's the only thing that makes any sense.
>So you're advocating class warfare, punative taxation, and inequality.
>And you call yourself a democratic socialist......
>Well, that always seems to be how it ends up isn't it?
>Steal from the rich to give to the poor until everyone is poor.
Damned shame the US was formed as a Republic..with no room for
Democratic Socialists in the paperwork.
Gunner
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You just opened the window for a glimpse at the liberal mindset. You
people think, for some unknown reason, that since you are infinitely
more "intelligient" than the "average" citizen then it's not only your
God given right, but a responsibilty to tell everyone else how they
should live, spend their money, what to eat, what to drive, how much
to eat and drink and what to set your thermostat to. Of course, those
same rules don't apply to you because you, being a highly educated
individual with a degree in the "arts", don't have to abide by those
same rules. Thank GOD you are in the minority.
"Robert Westergrom"
> On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 19:20:17 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
> <mike.terr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >Gunner wrote:
> >> On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 13:11:43 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
> >> <mike.terr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> >Gunner wrote:
> >> >> The Great Cull will remove them AND any medical expenses. Afterall...a
> >> >> bit of barbed wire or a single round to the back of the skull is very
> >> >> very cheap.
> >> >> Unless you have a good way to sterilize them while they are penned
> >> >> and ready to be hooked to a plow.
> >> > Plasma cutter, and a hot branding iron to cauterize the wound. ;-)
> >> Nice! I like it!!
> > And a nail gun to give them their Penicillin shots, even if they are
> >allergic to it. ;-)
> In both arms!!!
> Though..that would make it easier to hook em to a plow...humm..they
> couldnt pick at the straps...yes!!!!
