How to part out a snow plow truck

[Ignoramus26595]

I bought a couple of trucks.

http://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?fa=Main.Item&itemID=11&acctID=5015
http://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?fa=Main.Item&itemID=6&acctID=5015

They were barely used by the CTA (Chicago Transit Authority) to spread
salt. 10k and 15k miles respectively.

However, they sat around for a long time and their beds are shot due
to rust damage from salt. In general, I doubt very much that anyone
would want them as a whole.

I no longer have salt spreaders from them.

My question is what do I try to sell after scrapping the bodies.

1) Front snow plow mount
2) PTO pump and hydraulic tank and control for dump bed
3) Dump cylinder
4) Cat 3116 diesel engines
5) Automatic transmissions
6) Rear Axles
7) Almost brand new tires (to be used on my other equipment, not to be
sold)
8) Salt Spreader Controls
9) Front Dash

Anything else?

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[Michael A. Terrell]

If the beds are all that ar damaged, remove them and sell the rest
intact. People wreck dumps and need to get back to work. They could
move the bed from another truck a lot easier than rebuilding a wrecked
one.

Someone rolled a dump used buy a tree service in front of my church a
few years ago. the owner of the truck got there before the cops and was
calling around to find parts before they arrived. He found them 500
miles away & sent his gofer to pick them up. That was a Saturday, and
the truck was back in service by Monday.

[Tim Wescott]

That's just about exactly what I was going to say. At least, except for
the story about the wreck.

Some enterprising soul may even want to buy one and weld a new bottom
into the bed. (I'm not saying that's smart -- just that someone may do
it).

If they're drivable I think I'd take a stab at selling them intact, and
only part them out if that didn't seem to be working.

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[Larry Jaques]

On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 22:39:58 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"

I wonder if GMC sells those with undercoated frames, or if CTA had
them protected before use. But did you see the center console screws?
The interiors seemed to be totally corroded, too. I wouldn't trust
the wiring.

> Someone rolled a dump used buy a tree service in front of my church a
>few years ago. the owner of the truck got there before the cops and was
>calling around to find parts before they arrived. He found them 500
>miles away & sent his gofer to pick them up. That was a Saturday, and
>the truck was back in service by Monday.

Wow!

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[Ignoramus5654]

The frames are OK, but a lot of other things have a lot of rust.

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[Gunner]

Those are "dump trucks" right?

Why not advertize them in the southern states. If they are low
milage..a company could buy them, and simply put their old dumps on
the new trucks and be golden.

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

[Ignoramus5654]

I will see, it is kind of a fun project. One starts, but one fitting
for transmission oil cooler was rotten.

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[dpb]

On 12/23/2012 7:17 AM, Ignoramus5654 wrote:
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> The frames are OK, but a lot of other things have a lot of rust.

I looked at one (not even sure now which; perhaps the newer??)...

Other than the bed, a little sandblasting and some paint and they'll go
for years...

Iggy, you seem to think a little surface rust and a perhaps a hole or
two in a piece of body tin disqualifies something from functioning... :)
That may be so for personal vehicles or for the boss's fancy 4WD Cummins
Ram that he never gets off the freeway with, but not so much for the
_real_ work truck. If the City didn't have taxpayers to fund them, they
would have kept those in better condition...

They ain't _close_ to worn out from what I see.

Remove beds, scrap them and sell 'em...if you can get 'em to run again,
first, that's a plus.

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[dpb]

On 12/23/2012 9:56 AM, dpb wrote:
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> Remove beds, scrap them and sell 'em...if you can get 'em to run again,
> first, that's a plus.

The other pertinent piece of information would be how much do you have
in them, roughly?

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[Gunner]

Not with less than 10k miles on them. And yeah..thats typical
treatment for big Leftwing city gear. Taxpayers will buy em
another..no problem!

[Ignoramus5654]

Yes, I will try. I will report my result. I know that one does start.

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[Ignoramus5654]

On 2012-12-23, dpb <no...@non.net> wrote:

Roughly I have $900 in both after selling off something off of them.

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[Ignoramus5654]

On 2012-12-23, Gunner <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 09:56:49 -0600, dpb <no...@non.net> wrote:
>
>>On 12/23/2012 7:17 AM, Ignoramus5654 wrote:
>>...
>>
>>> The frames are OK, but a lot of other things have a lot of rust.
>>
>>I looked at one (not even sure now which; perhaps the newer??)...
>>
>>Other than the bed, a little sandblasting and some paint and they'll go
>>for years...
>>
>>Iggy, you seem to think a little surface rust and a perhaps a hole or
>>two in a piece of body tin disqualifies something from functioning... :)
>>That may be so for personal vehicles or for the boss's fancy 4WD Cummins
>>Ram that he never gets off the freeway with, but not so much for the
>>_real_ work truck. If the City didn't have taxpayers to fund them, they
>>would have kept those in better condition...
>>
>>They ain't _close_ to worn out from what I see.
>>
>>Remove beds, scrap them and sell 'em...if you can get 'em to run again,
>>first, that's a plus.
>
> Not with less than 10k miles on them. And yeah..thats typical
> treatment for big Leftwing city gear. Taxpayers will buy em
> another..no problem!

Yes, it is not their money.

Common to taxpayer funded entities, big companies, and almost bankrupt
companies,

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[David Lesher]

Gunner <gunne...@gmail.com> writes:


>Not with less than 10k miles on them. And yeah..thats typical
>treatment for big Leftwing city gear. Taxpayers will buy em
>another..no problem!

Gunner, I don't know your geographic history, but I grew up
in the Salt Belt, and worked in the 2-way radio business
there...including municipal accounts. I also fixed
my own cars.

I'm not surprised low-mileage but not low-years salt trucks were
scrapped. Until you have worked on such, it's hard to imagine
how badly deteriorated such vehicles can really be.

I recall looking for solid sheet metal to put the radio mounting
bracket... and not finding any.

A friend had bought a classic 65 Galaxy 500 ragtop, and we
thumped on the box frame with a mallet....and most of it was on
the shop floor.

Further, every bolt, nut, screw or other fastener will be
seized. The Breath of the Dragon is a close partner in any
repair job. So is Kroil. Even so, you will be drilling out the
snapped-off ones....and any Phillips head screws.

Working on car is so much more fun now than it was there.


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[Ignoramus5654]

On 2012-12-24, David Lesher <wb8...@panix.com> wrote:
> Gunner <gunne...@gmail.com> writes:
>
>
>>Not with less than 10k miles on them. And yeah..thats typical
>>treatment for big Leftwing city gear. Taxpayers will buy em
>>another..no problem!
>
> Gunner, I don't know your geographic history, but I grew up
> in the Salt Belt, and worked in the 2-way radio business
> there...including municipal accounts. I also fixed
> my own cars.
>
> I'm not surprised low-mileage but not low-years salt trucks were
> scrapped. Until you have worked on such, it's hard to imagine
> how badly deteriorated such vehicles can really be.
>
> I recall looking for solid sheet metal to put the radio mounting
> bracket... and not finding any.
>
> A friend had bought a classic 65 Galaxy 500 ragtop, and we
> thumped on the box frame with a mallet....and most of it was on
> the shop floor.
>
> Further, every bolt, nut, screw or other fastener will be
> seized. The Breath of the Dragon is a close partner in any
> repair job. So is Kroil. Even so, you will be drilling out the
> snapped-off ones....and any Phillips head screws.
>
> Working on car is so much more fun now than it was there.
>
>

Yeah, they are seriously rusted. I think that a few things are indeed
salvageable and usable, but I am not so sure that someone will want
these trucks as a whole.

Say, the engine on one, runs good .

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[Gunner]

On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 01:16:52 +0000 (UTC), David Lesher
<wb8...@panix.com> wrote:

>Gunner <gunne...@gmail.com> writes:
>
>
>>Not with less than 10k miles on them. And yeah..thats typical
>>treatment for big Leftwing city gear. Taxpayers will buy em
>>another..no problem!
>
>Gunner, I don't know your geographic history, but I grew up
>in the Salt Belt, and worked in the 2-way radio business
>there...including municipal accounts. I also fixed
>my own cars.
>
>I'm not surprised low-mileage but not low-years salt trucks were
>scrapped. Until you have worked on such, it's hard to imagine
>how badly deteriorated such vehicles can really be.
>
>I recall looking for solid sheet metal to put the radio mounting
>bracket... and not finding any.
>
>A friend had bought a classic 65 Galaxy 500 ragtop, and we
>thumped on the box frame with a mallet....and most of it was on
>the shop floor.
>
>Further, every bolt, nut, screw or other fastener will be
>seized. The Breath of the Dragon is a close partner in any
>repair job. So is Kroil. Even so, you will be drilling out the
>snapped-off ones....and any Phillips head screws.
>
>Working on car is so much more fun now than it was there.

I grew up in Northern Michigan, but up there..we tarred, painted or
Zeibarted our frames and running gear and didnt have anywhere near
those problems. I left in 1971 and really never came back for any
length of time.

Now I live in the high desert and am surrounded by guys with 30s, 40s
and 50s cars and trucks. Every street has a virtual fleet of them.
They simply dont die out here in the desert. Windows may turn
blue..upholstery may turn to dust...but its all fixable.

https://picasaweb.google.com/104042282269066802602/Oildorado

If you browse around the photos..you will notice a lot of the old
trucks came right out of the oil fields. Many of them are preserved,
not rebuilt and have been in the area since new. Same with the autos.

Lots of 60s and 70s cars..but they arent as "cool" as the older cars.
Friend of mine has owned the same Mach 1 since he bought off the lot
in 1969. Shrug...we dont have salt problems here. Not even on the
coast.

Gunner

[dpb]

I saw your other posting but unless it just isn't showing, the bodies
don't look that bad--they still got doors and fenders, for heaven's
sakes!!! :)

For no more than that in them, I'd think a little cosmetic work and
being's one at least seems to run you'd get more value in less time as
cab and chassis than trying to part 'em out. Eventually you'd probably
be able to unload almost all the useable parts, but it would take
warehousing them until and unless it's a local "come and strip/use your
own tools" kind of a thing I'd think you'll end up w/ more time/effort
in them that way and have the mess to clean up after anyway...

Stuff like that often becomes a chassis for dry fertilizer spreaders or,
w/ longer wheelbase, feedwagon chassis for the large feedlots, etc., out
here...

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[Ignoramus13436]

Yes. I will keep you posted.

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[dpb]

On 12/25/2012 7:23 AM, Ignoramus13436 wrote:
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>> Stuff like that often becomes a chassis for dry fertilizer spreaders or,
>> w/ longer wheelbase, feedwagon chassis for the large feedlots, etc., out
>> here...
>>

...

> Yes. I will keep you posted.

....

Iff'en were closer (by about 4-500 mi :) ), I'd be interested meself, in
fact...

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[Ignoramus21868]

It can be shipped on a stepdeck semi trailer

[dpb]

On 12/26/2012 3:54 PM, Ignoramus21868 wrote:
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> It can be shipped on a stepdeck semi trailer

While they don't look too bad in pictures, I'd surely want take a look
before I committed is the reason I mentioned the distance--it's just too
far a drive on basically a whim... :)

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