Rope Jewelry & Hardware
Knotsman
anyone knows where I can get round stainless steel rings of approximately 1
inch in diameter. These are the same rings used in a lot of chokers and
costume jewelry worn today.I am currently making some rope bracelets and
chokers but can't seem to find this type of hardware.
If anyone knows of a mail order distributor or a web site to order from I
would greatly appreciate any help.
Respectfully,
Robert
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T J Bartruff
Try your local hardware store. I used to sell hardware and many stores
carried them. If you don't have any luck there try a good marine supply
store.
Hope this helps
T J
Knotsman
I have been to hardware stores, Home Depot and various marine stores.
Unfortunately the selection of sizes is limited and for most poeples
purposes the larger rings will do just fine. Since I am making jewelry and
smaller items to wear I need smaller rings thatare available in commercial
hardware and marine store. Any other ideas??
Respectfully,
Robert
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Jeffrey
and other jewelry of that type. My local one, Crystal Creations, has
catalogs that have AMAZING selections of stuff, and I'm confident that the
type of thing you are talking about would be in there somewhere.
---Jeffrey
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"Only in silence the word,
only in dark the light,
only in dying, life;
Bright the hawk's flight on the empty sky."
"Knotsman" <knot...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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Bobby Denrod
"descending rings."
These are typically 1 to 1.5 inch diameter aluminum rings. Don't believe
stainless is available.
Suggestions:
www.rei.com
REI has the following:
"SMC Descending Ring
$ 2.35
Item 471123
One-piece aluminum ring constructed without welds for strength
Inside diameter of the ring is 1.5 inches"
Probably far stronger than you need, but it's a start.
www.easternmountainsports.com
has the same one a dime cheaper...
Their item number #001-735-190
Good luck..
Bob
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Knotsman
Thanks for the input. I have seen the rings you are speaking of and I buy
alot of my rope and materials from Eastern Mountain Sports. Unfortunately
the same problem comes up with the rings they have and that is the diameter.
For the types of things I am doing I specifically need rings that range from
1/2" up to 1" but not any larger than that. Key rings would do except that
they have an edge and catch the fibers of the rope.
As usual any other input is welcome and I will certainly let you know what I
come up with, if in fact do.
Respectfully,
Robert
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rings. But I am afraid You may have to bye a lot. Maybe they can direct you
to an American distributor.
Uffe
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> Bob,
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> Thanks for the input. I have seen the rings you are speaking of and I buy
> alot of my rope and materials from Eastern Mountain Sports. Unfortunately
> the same problem comes up with the rings they have and that is the
diameter.
> For the types of things I am doing I specifically need rings that range
from
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that
> they have an edge and catch the fibers of the rope.
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I
> come up with, if in fact do.
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> Respectfully,
> Robert
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Ford and Mary Ann Walton
Some of the large marine supply houses, such as Jamestown Distributors
(www.jamestowndistributors.com, I think) may have smaller rings. If the
rings do not have to be round, you may be able to find some chain with
the right size links, and cut every other link.
Good luck,
Ford Walton
Martin Combs
think that I have seen them at my local marine hardeware store, you might
also want to check "PERKO" I'm not sure what their website is but I'm sure
they have one they have a lot of stainless steel hardware and crome plated.
My local marine hardware store has some brass rings the size you speak of
but I'll check on the stainless.
Martin Combs
Coos Bay, Oregon
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> Bob,
>
> Thanks for the input. I have seen the rings you are speaking of and I buy
> alot of my rope and materials from Eastern Mountain Sports. Unfortunately
> the same problem comes up with the rings they have and that is the
diameter.
> For the types of things I am doing I specifically need rings that range
from
> 1/2" up to 1" but not any larger than that. Key rings would do except
that
> they have an edge and catch the fibers of the rope.
>
> As usual any other input is welcome and I will certainly let you know what
I
> come up with, if in fact do.
>
> Respectfully,
> Robert
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Knotsman
tried and some of the recommendations made here I am still not finding what
I need. I think I need to locate a distributor that makes these steel rings
for handbags and some of the leatherware with rings and chain. The marine
stores so tend to have an assortment of steel rings, so far the smallest
being 3/4" but the price is astronomical. If I was building singular items
I might be inclined to purchase them that way but I am considering building
this type of rope jewelry for sale and that cost prohibits a real profit
margin while still keeping the price in control.
The outdoor and climbing stores don't have anything even nearly small
enough. Craft stores don't really have anything to fit the bill. Items they
have are no longer made of steel and have no strength or durability.
So, it would appear that I am temporarily at a standstill.
Per chance........any other advice, suggestions, comments, links?
Respectfully,
Robert
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Jeffrey
seek. You've said something about 1" or 1.5" diameter? I have bought steel
rings from Home Depot for use in hammock clews, and they are, I believe,
1.5". I just can't imagine what kind of rope jewelry you are making with a
ring so big. Do you have any scans of examples you've already made?
---Jeffrey
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"Only in silence the word,
only in dark the light,
only in dying, life;
Bright the hawk's flight on the empty sky."
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Knotsman
If you look closely at my posts I believe I mentioned that I can find all
kinds of rings from 1 1/4" up to 3", but what I am looking for are rings
that are 1/2" to 1" and no bigger. Home Depot does not even carry a ring
that is 1" and the 1" rings I have found in Marine stores are VERY
expensive. I believe I really need to find a handbag manufacturer or
someone that produces jewelry or some of the garb (jackets, belts, chokers)
that incorporates such hardware.
Respectfully,
Robert
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Ford and Mary Ann Walton
Try www.mcmaster.com, (maybe "mcmasters) a giant hardware catalog, and
search for "ring". They have lots of different types of rings; I think
the ones you want are with the buckles and straps around page 1231. The
site was a little hard to use, I had to leave the site and return in
order to change pages sometimes.
Good luck,
Ford Walton
Peter W. Meek
If you have problems at www.mcmaster.com be sure you have
the latest version of Adobe Acrobat Reader (available free
from www.adobe.com for Mac and Windows). PDF files are
big; you have to wait if you are using a modem connection.
Here's the only sub-one-inch SS ring I found there:
Page 1263 (online)
Type 304 Stainless Steel.Welded
Each
Stock Ring Pkg. Work Load stk# Bkn. Full
Dia. ID Qty. Limit, lbs. Pkg. Pkg.
3/16 3/4 10 900 3769T1 $1.73 $1.52
Even this one is slightly larger than 1" (1 1/8).
If you can stand nickle-plated, these are about
one tenth the cost:
pg 1225 (online)
Nickel-Plated Steel(probably NOT welded) per pkg
wire ID qty/pkg stock# 1-9 10-up
3/32 1/2 10 8894T1 2.00 1.57
7/64 5/8 10 8894T2 2.00 1.57
9/64 3/4 10 8894T3 2.66 2.10
5/32 7/8 10 8894T4 3.00 2.36
Or...
What size wire do you need? If you can stand 1/8 wire,
consider making your own.
Go to a welding supply house and buy 1/8 stainless filler
rod (for TIG welding) and wrap it around a mandrel or
rod. Choose a mandrel size so that when it springs back
you will end up with the size ring you want. Make as many
turns as you can with one piece of filler rod.
Use a hacksaw to cut this "spring" into rings, bend
each so the ends meet, and take them to someone who
does stainless TIG or MIG welding. Have them do a
little dot of weld on each side of the joint. This
should fill in the joint fairly well.
Then you grind and polish the weld as smooth as you
require with a Dremel tool. By adding sweat equity,
you may be able to get the price where you can stand it.
Otherwise, welded SS rings seem to cost over $1.
--
--Pete
pwm...@mail.msen.com (Peter W. Meek)
http://www.msen.com/~pwmeek/knots/knot-faq.html
Knotsman
Thank you very much for the link. This is the first glimmer of light in my
search for the steel rings. They have a 3/4" and a 1" ring and the prices
are considerably cheaper than in the marine stores. I am still looking for
something a little smaller for certain items I am making. Thank you again
for the input.
Respectfully,
Robert
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Knotsman
Thank you for the info and the suggestions. I do a lot of my own steel work
and have tools to cut and manipulate hard steel, however I do not have the
desire or time to cut, grind, weld and polish my own steel rings. I will
consider your alternative if I can't come up with anything close, but I
think I am now on the track to finding things that will work and do just
fine. Again, thank you for the help
Respectfully,
Robert
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> From: Peter W. Meek <pwm...@mail.msen.com>
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> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:25:28 -0500
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Eric Bagai
"Knotsman" <knot...@optonline.net> wrote:
> Ford,
> Thank you very much for the link. This is the first glimmer of
light in my
Indeed, the McMasters web site saved me about $200 off what I would
have spent at my usual collection of hardware stores. I owe Ford a
pint.
And Knotsman may want to consider a slight variation in his rings:
split rings. From a distance of more than a foot or two, no one can
tell the difference between split and solid rings. And unlike solid
ones, they come in a variety of readily obtainable sizes. and they are
fairly inexpensive. Try Tandy Leather, or maybe McMasters.
=Eric
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Knotsman
Thank you for the suggestion but I have tried split rings and the problem is
that I am using rope and cord and not leather or strap. The fibers of the
rope get caught and and it frays. I found this out the hard way. If that
were not the case it would be a great and inexpensive solution. That is why
I have sought out welded and solid rings where the joint is smooth and has
no burrs or edges.
As always, thank you to all for giving me input.
Respectfully,
Robert
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StainlessSteelRat
As far as split rings are concerned I prefer to use them on my stuff.
If chaffing & having the split ring ends chew up the rope how about
putting a bead in the split ring. I've seen that on a few items.
The bead rides around the ring such that the ends lock it on to the
'middle' ring. The beads are large enough to buffer the rope from
getting caught, yet the split ring is still usable if you do need the
functionality. I like the look.
I hope I've explained it well enough? A pic of what I mean can be
seen on Dan C.'s site:
http://www.geocities.com/knot_tyer/lump.html
Ed
On Thu, 22 Mar 2001 13:02:14 GMT, Knotsman <knot...@optonline.net>
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Sincerely yours,
A Fellow KnotHead!
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Knotsman
There might be certain items that the bead will work on. It is a good idea
and certainly one I had not thought of before.
Respectfully,
Robert
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Paul Matthews
> the problem is
> that I am using rope and cord and not leather or strap. The fibers of the
> rope get caught and and it frays.
Deos the ring end up completely covered, or enough to where the joint
could be covered with a small piece of tape to keep the cords from
catching?
--
Paul C
Paul Matthews
brass & nickle.
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