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Ganesh

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Jul 20, 2009, 12:32:21 PM7/20/09
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What are the different types of diamond settings commonly available in
the UK market?

Also I am trying to find new types of diamonds settings.


Ganesh
http://diamondbigs.blogspot.com/

Don T

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Jul 21, 2009, 1:48:36 AM7/21/09
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"Ganesh" <ganesh.grow...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:7079655ue8s8n7jl5...@4ax.com...

I have the ideal setting for your Diamonds. Set them down on my kitchen
table and walk away from them.

--


Don Thompson

Stolen from Dan: "Just thinking, besides, I watched 2 dogs mating once,
and that makes me an expert. "

There is nothing more frightening than active ignorance.
~Goethe

It is a worthy thing to fight for one's freedom;
it is another sight finer to fight for another man's.
~Mark Twain


William Black

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Jul 21, 2009, 1:49:03 AM7/21/09
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Ganesh wrote:
> What are the different types of diamond settings commonly available in
> the UK market?

Well.

If you get hold of the Cookson's Precious Metals catalogue, which is=20
sort of the industry standard, it has some 838 stone settings and 459=20
different rings to fit them to.

Obviously some settings won't go onto some rings.

And some of them are pretty big so you'd need a largish diamond to go=20
into them...

Cookson's charge =A310 for their 'long form' catalogue.

Alternatively you can, at some establishments, have the stones cast=20
into the metal...


--=20
William Black

So I looked at the script
It was six weeks filming in the desert.
No girls, no dialogue, just guys with guns.
They said "Do you want wages or a percentage?"
It looked like a certain turkey.
When they came the second time I was ready.
I haven't had to work since...

Eli Wallach on his roles in
"The Magnificent Seven"
and "The Good the Bad and The Ugly

Ganesh

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Jul 23, 2009, 12:17:05 AM7/23/09
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On Jul 21, 10:49 am, William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk>
wrote:

> Ganesh wrote:
> >What are the different types of diamond settings commonly available in
> > the UK market?
>
> Well.
>
> If you get hold of the Cookson's Precious Metals catalogue, which is
> sort of the industry standard, it has some 838 stone settings and 459
> different rings to fit them to.
>
> Obviously some settings won't go onto some rings.
>
> And some of them are pretty big so you'd need a largish diamond to go
> into them...
>
> Cookson's charge �10 for their 'long form' catalogue.

>
> Alternatively you can, at some establishments, have the stones cast
> into the metal...
>
Thanks William!

The information was very useful

Ganesh

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Jul 23, 2009, 12:18:13 AM7/23/09
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On Jul 21, 10:49 am, William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk>
wrote:
> Ganesh wrote:
> > What are the different types of diamond settings commonly available in
> > the UK market?
>
> Well.
>
> If you get hold of the Cookson's Precious Metals catalogue, which is
> sort of the industry standard, it has some 838 stone settings and 459
> different rings to fit them to.
>
> Obviously some settings won't go onto some rings.
>
> And some of them are pretty big so you'd need a largish diamond to go
> into them...
>
> Cookson's charge �10 for their 'long form' catalogue.
>
Does this website http://www.cooksongold.com belong to the Cookson you
are talking about?

Abrasha

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Jul 23, 2009, 12:18:40 AM7/23/09
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Don T wrote:
> "Ganesh" <ganesh.grow...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:7079655ue8s8n7jl5...@4ax.com...
>> What are the different types of diamond settings commonly available in
>> the UK market?
>>
>> Also I am trying to find new types of diamonds settings.
>>
>>
>> Ganesh
>> http://diamondbigs.blogspot.com/
>
> I have the ideal setting for your Diamonds. Set them down on my kitchen
> table and walk away from them.
>
>
>


:)

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Abrasha

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Jul 23, 2009, 12:36:44 PM7/23/09
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No that is a cooking website, dealing with recipes based on gold.

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Abrasha
http://www.abrasha.com

William Black

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Jul 23, 2009, 12:38:20 PM7/23/09
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Yes.

But it's a reasonably poor site to try and select a stone setting or a
ring from as it's reasonably hard to navigate using design as the search
parameter.


--

Peter W. Rowe

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Jul 23, 2009, 12:41:43 PM7/23/09
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On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:36:44 -0700, in rec.crafts.jewelry Abrasha
<abr...@abrasha.com> wrote:

>>
>>No that is a cooking website, dealing with recipes based on gold.

Ah yes. Steamed bridal jewelry with a whine and jeez sauce. A favorite of
jilted lovers everywhere...
;-)

William Black

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Jul 23, 2009, 7:33:33 PM7/23/09
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Stop being horrible to the poor chap.

He's obviously out of his depth.

Admittedly the depth he's out of is at the shallow end, but that's not
really the point.

If he's from, say, India (which his name implies) and he has a retail
background there then he'll only have experience of the very
stereotypical jewellery you can buy there...

--

Ganesh

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Jul 24, 2009, 5:10:16 AM7/24/09
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On Jul 23, 9:38=A0pm, William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk>
> Yes.

Thanks once again

Ganesh
http://diamondbigs.blogspot.com/

Maren aka HiloBeads or PalmsEtc

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Jul 25, 2009, 2:43:30 PM7/25/09
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On Jul 23, 1:33�pm, William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> >>> Ganesh wrote:
> >>>> What are the different types of diamond settings commonly available in
> >>>> the UK market?
> Stop being horrible to the poor chap.
>
> He's obviously out of his depth.
>
> Admittedly the depth he's out of is at the shallow end, �but that's not
> really the point.
>
> If he's from, �say, �India (which his name implies) and he has a retail
> background there then he'll only have experience of the very
> stereotypical jewellery you can buy there...

you can probably buy other jewelry in India too <g>
(but I think that's not what you were getting at).

I'm glad this newsgroup is still active.

Aloha,
Maren
(who still keeps coming back here, it's a place to learn things)

William Black

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Jul 25, 2009, 8:13:30 PM7/25/09
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Maren aka HiloBeads or PalmsEtc wrote:
> On Jul 23, 1:33 pm, William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> Ganesh wrote:
>>>>>> What are the different types of diamond settings commonly available in
>>>>>> the UK market?
>> Stop being horrible to the poor chap.
>>
>> He's obviously out of his depth.
>>
>> Admittedly the depth he's out of is at the shallow end, but that's not
>> really the point.
>>
>> If he's from, say, India (which his name implies) and he has a retail
>> background there then he'll only have experience of the very
>> stereotypical jewellery you can buy there...
>
> you can probably buy other jewelry in India too <g>
> (but I think that's not what you were getting at).

I spend a lot of time in India and my experience is that the precious
metal jewellery made for internal consumption is beautifully made but
completely pedestrian and conventional in design.

There are large quantities of more fashionable jewellery (in Western
terms) available but it isn't available in the retail shops.

Even in Bombay (Mumbai), the most cosmopolitan of India's cities, you
very rarely see anything made in precious metals that isn't of
traditional design.

Maren aka HiloBeads or PalmsEtc

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Jul 26, 2009, 12:09:12 PM7/26/09
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On Jul 25, 2:13嚙緘m, William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> Maren aka HiloBeads or PalmsEtc wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jul 23, 1:33 pm, William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>>> Ganesh wrote:
> >>>>>> What are the different types of diamond settings commonly available in
> >>>>>> the UK market?
> >> Stop being horrible to the poor chap.
>
> >> He's obviously out of his depth.
>
> >> Admittedly the depth he's out of is at the shallow end, 嚙箭ut that's not
> >> really the point.
>
> >> If he's from, 嚙編ay, 嚙瘢ndia (which his name implies) and he has a retail

> >> background there then he'll only have experience of the very
> >> stereotypical jewellery you can buy there...
>
> > you can probably buy other jewelry in India too <g>
> > (but I think that's not what you were getting at).
>
> I spend a lot of time in India and my experience is that the precious
> metal jewellery made for internal consumption is beautifully made but
> completely pedestrian and conventional in design.
>
> There are large quantities of more fashionable jewellery (in Western
> terms) available but it isn't available in the retail shops.
>
> Even in Bombay (Mumbai), 嚙緣he most cosmopolitan of India's cities, 嚙緙ou

> very rarely see anything made in precious metals that isn't of
> traditional design.

Learned something new again.
Maybe it's what sells.

I've never been to India but I have a co-worker who is
from Kerala. I'll ask him - not that I know how much interest
in jewelry he (or his wife, who is also from there) has.

Thanks,
Maren

William Black

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Jul 27, 2009, 12:21:27 AM7/27/09
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Maren aka HiloBeads or PalmsEtc wrote:
> On Jul 25, 2:13 pm, William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>> Maren aka HiloBeads or PalmsEtc wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 23, 1:33 pm, William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> Ganesh wrote:
>>>>>>>> What are the different types of diamond settings commonly available in
>>>>>>>> the UK market?
>>>> Stop being horrible to the poor chap.
>>>> He's obviously out of his depth.
>>>> Admittedly the depth he's out of is at the shallow end, but that's not
>>>> really the point.
>>>> If he's from, say, India (which his name implies) and he has a retail

>>>> background there then he'll only have experience of the very
>>>> stereotypical jewellery you can buy there...
>>> you can probably buy other jewelry in India too <g>
>>> (but I think that's not what you were getting at).
>> I spend a lot of time in India and my experience is that the precious
>> metal jewellery made for internal consumption is beautifully made but
>> completely pedestrian and conventional in design.
>>
>> There are large quantities of more fashionable jewellery (in Western
>> terms) available but it isn't available in the retail shops.
>>
>> Even in Bombay (Mumbai), the most cosmopolitan of India's cities, you

>> very rarely see anything made in precious metals that isn't of
>> traditional design.
>
> Learned something new again.
> Maybe it's what sells.
>
> I've never been to India but I have a co-worker who is
> from Kerala. I'll ask him - not that I know how much interest
> in jewelry he (or his wife, who is also from there) has.

Every Indian woman I've ever met, including my wife, is very keen
indeed on all types of jewellery and every Indian woman I know has a
decent collection of jewellery.

There's no welfare system in India and sometimes there can be a lot of
unrest and trouble. It makes a certain amount of sense to have asserts
you can carry...

In India it is normal for a middle class woman to have a jeweller who
will make her precious metal jewellery for her and costume jewellery is
on sale at just about every street corner.

But, and it's a big but, the social opportunities for women to wear
Western style jewellery are limited. Younger women could, but can't
afford it, and older women tend to wear traditional dress where Western
style jewellery just disappears into the gold thread embroidered sari
or salwar kamese.

Ganesh

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Jul 27, 2009, 8:02:42 PM7/27/09
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On Jul 27, 9:21�am, William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> In India it is normal for a middle class woman to have a jeweller who
> will make her precious metal jewellery for her and costume jewellery is
> on sale at just about every street corner.
>
> But, �and it's a big but, �the social opportunities for women �to wear
> Western style jewellery are limited. �Younger women could, �but can't
> afford it, �and older women tend to wear traditional dress where Western
> style jewellery just disappears into the gold thread embroidered �sari

Traditional Ornaments often symbolize various GODs and every ornament
various from place to place. If you try to research a Mangalsutra
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mangalsutra) you will find it is made at
least using 1000 different types.

What are the different types of Cross available in the western world?
I have seen the way it is represented is different in different
western region as well and each place has a different signature to it.

Ganesh

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Jul 27, 2009, 8:03:31 PM7/27/09
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I just found something that can interest you. This article speaks
about different type of Mangalsutras http://tinyurl.com/mangalsutra

William Black

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Jul 28, 2009, 3:23:48 PM7/28/09
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Ganesh wrote:
> On Jul 27, 9:21 am, William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>> In India it is normal for a middle class woman to have a jeweller who
>> will make her precious metal jewellery for her and costume jewellery is
>> on sale at just about every street corner.
>>
>> But, and it's a big but, the social opportunities for women to wear
>> Western style jewellery are limited. Younger women could, but can't
>> afford it, and older women tend to wear traditional dress where Western
>> style jewellery just disappears into the gold thread embroidered sari
>
> Traditional Ornaments often symbolize various GODs and every ornament
> various from place to place. If you try to research a Mangalsutra
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mangalsutra) you will find it is made at
> least using 1000 different types.

As is usual with articles on Wikipedia it's riddled with falsehoods.

Like the bhindi, the Mangalsutra is worn by Christian and Parsee women
as well as Hindu women these days

Ganesh

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Aug 6, 2009, 11:27:59 AM8/6/09
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On Jul 29, 12:23�am, William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk>

wrote:
> Ganesh wrote:
> > On Jul 27, 9:21 am, William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> >> In India it is normal for a middle class woman to have a jeweller who
> >> will make her precious metal jewellery for her and costume jewellery is
> >> on sale at just about every street corner.
>
> >> But, �and it's a big but, �the social opportunities for women �to wear
> >> Western style jewellery are limited. �Younger women could, �but can't
> >> afford it, �and older women tend to wear traditional dress where Western
> >> style jewellery just disappears into the gold thread embroidered �sari
>
> > Traditional Ornaments often symbolize various GODs and every ornament
> > various from place to place. If you try to research a Mangalsutra
> > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mangalsutra) you will find it is made at
> > least using 1000 different types.
>
> As is usual with articles on Wikipedia it's riddled with falsehoods.
>
> Like the bhindi, �the Mangalsutra is worn by Christian and Parsee women
> as well as Hindu women these days

I have seen some Christians doing that. They also wear saree instead
of the typical dress code.

William Black

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Aug 6, 2009, 10:02:34 PM8/6/09
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What exactly is 'typical dress code' for Christian ladies in India?

My experience is that they were anything they wish to wear.

My experience in modern India is that ladies tend tow ear pretty much
what they wish.

You get Hindu ladies wearing T-shirt and jeans and Christian ladies
wearing a saree.

To bring it on topic, every Indian lady I know also invariably owns the
appropriate jewellery for the different outfits.

--
William Black

The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing.
If you can fake that, you've got it made.

Ganesh

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Aug 8, 2009, 1:17:20 PM8/8/09
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On Aug 7, 7:02=A0am, William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:>
What exactly is 'typical dress code' for Christian ladies in India?
>
> My experience is that they were anything they wish to wear.

Nuns here do wear both white Saree and white veil. Though I have not
seen them wearing any jewelry at all.

Ganesh

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Aug 8, 2009, 1:18:00 PM8/8/09
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On Aug 7, 7:02am, William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> To bring it on topic, every Indian lady I know also invariably owns the
> appropriate jewellery for the different outfits.
>

That's true, but is that not everywhere?

William Black

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Aug 9, 2009, 2:25:13 AM8/9/09
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Ganesh wrote:

I haven't seen a nun in a Saree in years.

Those I do see seem to wear a plain grey or black habit and a simplified
head dress.

All wear a cross.

William Black

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Aug 9, 2009, 2:25:32 AM8/9/09
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It is not unusual for ladies in Western countries not to either own or
wear any jewellery.

However, unless you're related to them, jewellers tend not to meet them...

Ganesh

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Aug 10, 2009, 4:02:16 AM8/10/09
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On Aug 9, 11:25 am, William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> Ganesh wrote:
> > On Aug 7, 7:02am, William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:>
> > What exactly is 'typical dress code' for Christian ladies in India?
> >> My experience is that they were anything they wish to wear.
>
> > Nuns here do wear both white Saree and white veil. Though I have not
> > seen them wearing any jewelry at all.
>
> I haven't seen a nun in a Saree in years.

In the south of India, I think I have seen nuns wearing them. I think
Mother Teresa used to wear one.

William Black

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Aug 10, 2009, 11:50:12 AM8/10/09
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The Sisters of Charity do wear a saree, yes.

However, they're not a full fledged independent order.

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