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Michael C. De Graff

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Oct 2, 2002, 9:09:14 PM10/2/02
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Well happy days are here again! Being a recent grad I don't get out to the
liquor store too often (hmm... why don't they call it a beer store?), you see my
taste has outgrown my entry-level budget. Well I scrutinized just about every
microbrew they had, ran around in circles, put things back, went back picked
them up again...and finally pick up an old favorite (like what 6 months?) and
decided to try a few new ones out.

I really wanted to try a Chimay but I couldn't bring myself to lay out the cash.
$3.25 for a 12 oz bottle! I guess eventually I will give it a try...

but I was wondering, what is the most you paid for a craft/micro brew and how
did it turn out? And also what is you "old favorite" and how much does it go
for?

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Michael C. De Graff
Woodstown, NJ
http://www.mikedegraff.com


DSchultz

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Oct 3, 2002, 12:23:34 AM10/3/02
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I can't remember the exact price but it was around $60 for a jeriboom (sp?)
of the last batch of Hair of the Dog Fred in bottles of that size. I still
have and am looking for an excuse to open it. Oh yeah, then there's the $75
I spent for a case of Pelican Brewery's Millenium Lager. I still have about
16 bottles of that.

Liquid Solutions here in Tigard has a jeriboom fo a beer that they're
getting via special order. I think it may have been Gran Cru. It was
priced at $75.

Burp,
-Dan

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Garry Simmons

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Oct 3, 2002, 7:40:26 AM10/3/02
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> but I was wondering, what is the most you paid for a craft/micro brew and
how
> did it turn out? And also what is you "old favorite" and how much does it
go
> for?

I paid $14 for a 12 oz bottle of Westvleteren 12 at a bar once. It was
really good, but not $14 worth of good. It's hard to find, and has a great
reputation, so I splurged. There are lots of good Belgian beers I can get
for half that money (or less), so I haven't tried it a second time.

Paid close to $100 for a mixed case of Samiclaus (96-98 vintages). Still
have some aging in the basement. Good Stuff on a cold winter night.

Garry


Herb G.

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Oct 3, 2002, 8:23:11 AM10/3/02
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This past winter, 2001-2002, I paid $336.00 USD (yes, that's three hundred +
dollars) for 8 cases of 2002 vintage Bigfoot barleywine. I serve it to my special
friends when they come over, the rest drink BudMilOors. Since they don't appreciate
good beer, the hell with 'em, I say. Why waste it? It was worth every penny to
aquire 8 cases, IMHO. I still have about 6 cases aging in my basement. Happy Days,
Herb G.
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MDixon

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Oct 3, 2002, 8:35:25 AM10/3/02
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Michael C. De Graff <ma...@mikedegraff.com> wrote in message
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A couple of my favorite beers are De Dolle Oerbier and Still Naught (sp).
They run between $3 and $5 per 11.2 oz bottle. I also really enjoy Unibroue
Quelque Chose and it comes in about $10 per champagne bottle. Bear Republic
has a couple of beers I like and the closest place to get them charges about
$4 per 22 oz bottle. The last bottle of Samichlaus I purchased was almost
$6 a bottle.

As far as old favorites, there are many fine beers out there for $0.75 to
$1.50 a bottle...

Cheers,
Mike


Colin Taddonio

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Oct 3, 2002, 9:08:57 AM10/3/02
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On Thu, 03 Oct 2002 01:09:14 GMT, "Michael C. De Graff"
<ma...@mikedegraff.com> wrote:

>
>I really wanted to try a Chimay but I couldn't bring myself to lay out the cash.
>$3.25 for a 12 oz bottle! I guess eventually I will give it a try...
>
>but I was wondering, what is the most you paid for a craft/micro brew and how
>did it turn out? And also what is you "old favorite" and how much does it go
>for?

Beer pricing doesn't make much sense to me. I've spent a lot of money
on beer when in a restaurant. I recently went out for dinner and was
looking over the beer list. Domestic had the usual budmilloors at
$4.50 a pop. The imports at $6.00 had such stand outs as Heineken,
Becks, St. Pauli Girl and Samuel Adams Lager. Yes, Sams. I told the
waiter that Sams was domestic and he replied - Yes but it tastes like
an import.

I'll be sampling my old fav's this weekend when I go to my northern
home. Ommegang Abbey at $4 for 750ml and Genny Cream Ale at $12 a 30
pack ;-)

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John Misrahi

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Oct 3, 2002, 12:38:58 PM10/3/02
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I fear Unibroue may have stopped brewing 'Quelque chose....I live in
Montreal, Quebec and I wasn't able to find it anywhere last winter... i used
to see it all over the place.. i will look again this year.... maybe they
brew less and it sells faster or something....

John

DSchultz

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Oct 3, 2002, 10:49:11 AM10/3/02
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Wow, it's was only $25 at the brewery. Maybe I'll pick up extra next year
and sell them yo you at $42 a case! <g>

Burp,
-Dan


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Michael Corbett

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Oct 3, 2002, 10:48:10 AM10/3/02
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Michael C. De Graff wrote:

> Well happy days are here again! Being a recent grad I don't get out to the
> liquor store too often (hmm... why don't they call it a beer store?), you see my
> taste has outgrown my entry-level budget.

Liquor store makes more sense then a package store or packy as they are
commonly referred to up here.

Mike


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MDixon

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John Misrahi <lmoukhi...@sprint.ca> wrote in message
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>
> I fear Unibroue may have stopped brewing 'Quelque chose....I live in
> Montreal, Quebec and I wasn't able to find it anywhere last winter... i
used
> to see it all over the place.. i will look again this year.... maybe they
> brew less and it sells faster or something....

It is my understanding that if a retailer does not sell a certain "volume"
of the Unibroue products, they are not allowed to sell the Quelque Chose.
It can be difficult to get, but I would think it easier to find in CAN than
in the US...

Cheers,
Mike


Ed Evans

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Oct 3, 2002, 11:31:37 AM10/3/02
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"Michael C. De Graff" <ma...@mikedegraff.com> wrote in message news:<_MMm9.24546$bY5....@bin4.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>...

I've paid $6-7 for bottles of rare-ish imported stuff, Belgian mostly.
$3 is typical for high-end imports, just FYI.

I don't know if it's an "old favorite," but in the fall Pyramid
Brewing Co. puts out an amber they call Broken Rake that is worth
getting. Most domestic craft brew you can get for $5-6 a sixpack.

Cheers,
-Ed Evans

Denny Conn

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Oct 3, 2002, 12:57:46 PM10/3/02
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Dogfish Head Worldwide Imperial Stout comes to mind...$8.39 for a 12 oz.
bottle. Worth every penny!

------------>Denny

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Bill Dutton

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Oct 3, 2002, 12:48:51 PM10/3/02
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Michael C. De Graff wrote:

Rather than answer your question outright I would rather direct your
attention to an excellent web site which has hundreds (thousands?) of
beers rated by experts (beer drinkers). This should help you narrow
your search for good beer by eliminating poorly rated ones.

http://www.beeradvocate.com

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MDixon

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Oct 3, 2002, 1:35:46 PM10/3/02
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Bill Dutton <bill.dutton@I_HATE_SPAM.fmr.com> wrote in message > Rather than

answer your question outright I would rather direct your
> attention to an excellent web site which has hundreds (thousands?) of
> beers rated by experts (beer drinkers). This should help you narrow
> your search for good beer by eliminating poorly rated ones.
>
> http://www.beeradvocate.com


They might also find this useful...
http://www.tastings.com/search_beer.lasso

Cheers,
Mike


Chad Gould

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Oct 3, 2002, 3:24:12 PM10/3/02
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On Thu, 03 Oct 2002 01:09:14 GMT, "Michael C. De Graff"
<ma...@mikedegraff.com> wrote:
>but I was wondering, what is the most you paid for a craft/micro brew and how
>did it turn out? And also what is you "old favorite" and how much does it go
>for?

My old regular depends on how lazy I am. At the grocery store, Sierra
Nevada Pale Ale is the best they got @ $7 for six. Red Hook is decent
on a budget (under $6 for a six, but not really a micro these days?).
A close by liquor store sells most of the Spaten products (Optimator,
Oktoberfest, etc.), real good stuff for around $8 for six. Lately
though I have too much homebrew to buy beer. :)

The most I ever paid per bottle was for the Unibroue 10. I forget how
much. It was a very good beer. But IMHO it was not that much a step up
from Unibroue's La Fin Du Monde (my favorite of theirs) to justify the
price. Actually, in some ways I prefered the La Fin Du Monde.

John Misrahi

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Oct 3, 2002, 7:03:30 PM10/3/02
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That would make sense...It is really not a mass appeal beer,,, or at least I
suspect the black paper covering the bottle deters people looking for a 'six
pack' etc...

I know a few places that sell tons of Unibroue beers... i will look again
this winter..

I think they should try a spiced pumpkin beer next..with Belgian yeast,
etc.. could be interesting.

John

Kulrak

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Oct 3, 2002, 8:36:35 PM10/3/02
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On Thu, 03 Oct 2002 10:48:10 +0000, Michael Corbett wrote:

> Michael C. De Graff wrote:
>
>> Well happy days are here again! Being a recent grad I don't get out to the
>> liquor store too often (hmm... why don't they call it a beer store?), you see my
>> taste has outgrown my entry-level budget.
>
>
>
> Liquor store makes more sense then a package store or packy as they are
> commonly referred to up here.
>
> Mike

They're called Bottle Shops here in Australia.

Kulrak


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Mandee Buchholz

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Oct 4, 2002, 12:55:19 AM10/4/02
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Hmm, you asked about Chimay. I paid $10 for one of those 750 mil champagne
bottles of Chimay Grand Reserve or whatever it was. Now, I know that some
people would be chompin at the bit for a bottle of this stuff, but I found
it utterly undrinkable. I don't know if the bottle was bad or if my taste
isn't mature enough for this stuff, but it was the biggest waste of $10 I've
ever, well, wasted. I posted here about it and decided that it may or may
not have had a "Brett" taste to it, as in bretanomyces or whatever the
yeast/bacteria is called. Apperently its a required taste in some brews,
but I hated it.
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Smhoneydo

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Oct 4, 2002, 7:25:15 AM10/4/02
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I really wanted to try a Chimay but I couldn't bring myself to lay out the
cash.
$3.25 for a 12 oz bottle! I guess eventually I will give it a try...

but I was wondering, what is the most you paid for a craft/micro brew and how
did it turn out? And also what is you "old favorite" and how much does it go
for?

I once bought a "Samiclaus" at $5.00 a bottle. It wasn't bad for a once in a
while experience but I wouldn't make a habit of it. Chimay is ranking high on
the do it again scale along with Grimburgen dupple and triple. Yet a real
favorite is Wheinstephen's weiss. Forgive me if I spelled any of those wrong
but as long as you understand the beers of which I speak of then perhaps you
can go round up a sample for yourself.
Steve

Paul Hill

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Oct 4, 2002, 3:23:52 PM10/4/02
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On 04-Oct-02 00:36:35, Kulrak wrote:
>On Thu, 03 Oct 2002 10:48:10 +0000, Michael Corbett wrote:

>> Michael C. De Graff wrote:
>>
>>> Well happy days are here again! Being a recent grad I don't get out to
>>> the liquor store too often (hmm... why don't they call it a beer store?),
>>> you see my taste has outgrown my entry-level budget.
>>
>> Liquor store makes more sense then a package store or packy as they are
>> commonly referred to up here.
>>
>> Mike

>They're called Bottle Shops here in Australia.

'Off-License' (or offy) in the UK.

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Jerry Barkley

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Oct 5, 2002, 8:31:56 AM10/5/02
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i've been to canada, where they call beer stores "beer store" and liquor
stores "liquor store"

crazy canucks :)

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Daniel Williams

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Oct 5, 2002, 1:29:53 PM10/5/02
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On Thu, 03 Oct 2002 19:24:12 GMT, Chad_...@jabil.com (Chad Gould)
wrote:

>On Thu, 03 Oct 2002 01:09:14 GMT, "Michael C. De Graff"
><ma...@mikedegraff.com> wrote:
>>but I was wondering, what is the most you paid for a craft/micro brew and how
>>did it turn out? And also what is you "old favorite" and how much does it go
>>for?
>
>My old regular depends on how lazy I am. At the grocery store, Sierra
>Nevada Pale Ale is the best they got @ $7 for six. Red Hook is decent
>on a budget (under $6 for a six, but not really a micro these days?).

I find the Flying Dog products a great bargain. I like thier pale ale
as well (or better) than SNPA and it costs about $2 less per six pack
around here.
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Arne Thormodsen

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"Colin Taddonio" <cta...@net.optonline> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 03 Oct 2002 01:09:14 GMT, "Michael C. De Graff"
> <ma...@mikedegraff.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >I really wanted to try a Chimay but I couldn't bring myself to lay out
the cash.
> >$3.25 for a 12 oz bottle! I guess eventually I will give it a try...
> >
> >but I was wondering, what is the most you paid for a craft/micro brew and
how
> >did it turn out? And also what is you "old favorite" and how much does
it go
> >for?
>
> Beer pricing doesn't make much sense to me. I've spent a lot of money
> on beer when in a restaurant. I recently went out for dinner and was
> looking over the beer list. Domestic had the usual budmilloors at
> $4.50 a pop. The imports at $6.00 had such stand outs as Heineken,
> Becks, St. Pauli Girl and Samuel Adams Lager. Yes, Sams. I told the
> waiter that Sams was domestic and he replied - Yes but it tastes like
> an import.

It's funny, but I knew your address would be in NY before I got to the
bottom
of the posting. Something about the mix of selections and prices clued me
in.

Anyway, there is a brewery in NY just "across the border" from Mawah NJ
that I really liked. I'd get you a better location but for some reason
Mapquest
doesn't recognise "Mawah". Anyway they had a nice selection, including a
strong Belgian-style ale called "Demon Fuel" if my memory serves me. It's
worth
checking out if you can get better info than I'm coming up with right now.

--arne


Arne Thormodsen

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Oct 5, 2002, 6:11:12 PM10/5/02
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> Anyway, there is a brewery in NY just "across the border" from Mawah NJ
> that I really liked. I'd get you a better location but for some reason
> Mapquest
> doesn't recognise "Mawah". Anyway they had a nice selection, including a
> strong Belgian-style ale called "Demon Fuel" if my memory serves me. It's
> worth
> checking out if you can get better info than I'm coming up with right now.
>
> --arne

I guess spelling it "Mahwah" would help... ;-)

Anyway, the brewery is somewhere in a circle roughly bounded by Mahway NJ
and
Suffern NY if it's any help to you.

--arne

>
>


Colin Taddonio

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Oct 6, 2002, 11:30:46 PM10/6/02
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Thanks Arne but I'm nowhere near Mahwah. I'm about 60 miles east of
Manhattan or about 100 miles north depending on which house I'm at. I
just came home from the north home and enjoyed some ommegang abbey and
genny cream and located some bigfoot '02 at < $8 a six while there.
I'll be going up in about a week and plan to buy some more bigfoot. I
just didn't have the cash with me and don't like buying consumables on
credit

Daniel McConnell

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Oct 7, 2002, 1:11:52 PM10/7/02
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On 4 Oct 2002, Smhoneydo wrote:

>
> I really wanted to try a Chimay but I couldn't bring myself to lay out the
> cash.
> $3.25 for a 12 oz bottle! I guess eventually I will give it a try...
>
> but I was wondering, what is the most you paid for a craft/micro brew and how
> did it turn out? And also what is you "old favorite" and how much does it go
> for?
>
> I once bought a "Samiclaus" at $5.00 a bottle. It wasn't bad for a once in a
> while experience but I wouldn't make a habit of it. Chimay is ranking high on

Westvleteran 12 and 8, and Rochefort 10, all were $9 per ~12oz bottles
when I last purchased them.
I just picked up some Rochefort 8 for $8 a bottle while in Denver at the
GABF.


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