I got Beadnerd beads!

[Kalera]

I have some sort of spectacular good luck when it comes to Lori's beads;
somehow, I always manage to fixate on the ONE set that hardly anyone
else bids on, and so last week I received my third and so far FAVORITE
Lori set:

http://www.justbeads.com/listings/details/index.cfm?itemnum=804484111

Lori, I LOVE LOVE LOVE these! I'm just dying to make a bracelet today
but I'm not sure what else to put in there with it. Definitely some
black Swarovski rounds, maybe silver... Hmmmmmm....
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-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com

[Stephanie]

Ooooo, that's gonna be a gorgeous bracelet.

I just got my Kalera focal that I had on hold for what seemed like
forever (thanks for letting me do that Kalera). I promptly put it on a
string and around my neck!

You RCB'ers are so bad, getting me turned on to art beads... total
enablers...

[Kalera]

You're welcome! I'm glad it got there safely and that you're enjoying it!

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-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com

[Dawn >^..^<]

Good for you girl! Those are gorgeous beads!

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"Art Insomnia"
Web Site http://www.art-insomnia.com
Auctions http://snipurl.com/my_ebay
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[Fragile Warrior Bees]

"Kalera" <kal...@strattonhome.org> wrote in message
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Pretty hot! I have a question now. There are five highly worked beads and
six small black ones. Are they all lampwork beads? Just curious because
sometimes I wonder if the smaller beads between the arty beads are purchased
beads or handmade also.

Giselle (who likes orange with almost anything)

[Lori Greenberg]

In this case they're lampwork spacers by me. When in doubt, ask the seller
too, if it doesn't say in the auction description. Sometimes I forget to
mention it when they're just one plain color....thanks for the reminder on
that though.

Kalera, I'm glad you like them. I just did a POD set in this color combo
too!

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Lori Greenberg
www.lorigreenberg.com
ebay:
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justbeads:
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[Fragile Warrior Bees]

"Lori Greenberg" <ne...@beadnerd.com> wrote in message
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> In this case they're lampwork spacers by me. When in doubt, ask the
> seller too, if it doesn't say in the auction description. Sometimes I
> forget to mention it when they're just one plain color....thanks for the
> reminder on that though.
>
> Kalera, I'm glad you like them. I just did a POD set in this color combo
> too!

That's great. I wasn't sure but I assumed that since you didn't mention the
number of lampworked beads that everything I was looking at was made by you.
I was just wondering if sometimes the seller does mix in purchased beads,
too. (I think I've concluded that they do but I'm still new at looking at
these auctions.)

Thanks for the explanation.

And nice beads, btw!
:)

[Kalera]

<<SHRIEK>>!

Pods... <KLUNK>

Lori Greenberg wrote:
> In this case they're lampwork spacers by me. When in doubt, ask the seller
> too, if it doesn't say in the auction description. Sometimes I forget to
> mention it when they're just one plain color....thanks for the reminder on
> that though.
>
> Kalera, I'm glad you like them. I just did a POD set in this color combo
> too!
>

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-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com

[Kalera]

They are, totally. I keep fondling them... mmmmm!

Dawn >^..^< wrote:
> Good for you girl! Those are gorgeous beads!
>

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-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com

[Kalera]

Adding purchased spacers is quite common; usually it's easy to tell the
difference, as with Bali silver or cut crystals, but sometimes it's
tricky to tell by the eye alone.

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-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com

[Lara]

Kalera:

Lucky duck, those are great. Please post a link when you get your bracelet
done.

Lori - great job, just beautiful, as always

Lara

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[Christina Peterson]

That framed amber lentil is way cool!

Tina

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[Christina Peterson]

Most manufactured beads are identifiable by the shapes, eg round or
crystals, etc. Whereas most lampwork spacer beads are a variation of a
donut. And usually the lampworker will tell you how many beads (of their
own) they are selling. I have occasionally wondered if a less skilled
lampworker is showing someone else's beads -- like lampwork from China. Of
course, once you saw the beads you'd recognized the trick, you'll never buy
from them again. (I know because I got fooled once).

Just a heads up. There's a lampwork studio called Austin Hamilton. "He"
claims to be the beadmaker, and yet he's got something like 500 auctions
ending within a week or ten days, and they are repetitions of a couple dozen
sets. He always does. That's enough to prove to me he's not making them.
They are quite nice, and they are hand made and probably annealed. But they
are not the artist made beads that we usually talk about when we refer to
lampwork. Probably worth the opening price, but don't bid them up.

Tina

"Lori Greenberg" <ne...@beadnerd.com> wrote...

> In this case they're lampwork spacers by me. When in doubt, ask the
seller
> too, if it doesn't say in the auction description. Sometimes I forget to
> mention it when they're just one plain color....thanks for the reminder on
> that though.
>
>

> "Fragile Warrior Bees" <vol...@tds.net> wrote in message
> news:42dac700$1...@newspeer2.tds.net...
>

[Kalera]

I know a lot of people simply won't buy from him because of the
misrepresentation issue... I think it's harming him more than helping him.

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-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com

[Stephanie]

After "Austin Hamilton" stole text and designs from Kandice I have been
watching "his" auctions. There is no more mention of annealing.

[Polly S.]

Christina Peterson wrote:

> Just a heads up. There's a lampwork studio called Austin Hamilton. "He"
> claims to be the beadmaker, and yet he's got something like 500 auctions
> ending within a week or ten days, and they are repetitions of a couple dozen
> sets. He always does. That's enough to prove to me he's not making them.
> They are quite nice, and they are hand made and probably annealed. But they
> are not the artist made beads that we usually talk about when we refer to
> lampwork. Probably worth the opening price, but don't bid them up.

I think, IIRC, that on his ME page he talks about the group of
'beadworkers' employed to make the beads, without saying where those
employees are actually located. But a buyer would have to look beyond
just the auction page to find out even that much.

--
Polly
--
don't spook my groove...
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[Marisa Cappetta]

They are wonderful, Kalera, well done!

I plan on buying some of Lori's pod beads soonish. I love that they're
organic, but not cloyingly so.
Marisa AU/NZ

[Kalera]

Well... that's revealing!

I wish he would just do as some other sellers do and say "these beads
are handmade in China". I don't think it would hurt his sales and it
would certainly help his reputation.

Stephanie wrote:
> After "Austin Hamilton" stole text and designs from Kandice I have been
> watching "his" auctions. There is no more mention of annealing.
>

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-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com

[Kalera]

Last time I checked his "me" page, it claimed that Austin Hamilton was
the name of a Canadian lampworker that the seller represents.

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-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com

[Kandice Seeber]

The seller has a warehouse in Canada where they receive the beads from all
over the world.

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Kandice Seeber
www.lampwork.net

[Kandice Seeber]

Actually, they are still saying that their beads are annealed, and that they
are made in their "studio".

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5012923115

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Kandice Seeber
www.lampwork.net

[Fragile Warrior Bees]

"Kandice Seeber" <see...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Actually, they are still saying that their beads are annealed, and that
> they are made in their "studio".
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5012923115

You know, they are sort of pretty. (Nobody yell at me! It's just my newbie
opinion.) But they look like they are all made on the "Starving Artist" oil
painting system: flowers on this one, raised dots on this one, etc.,
production line lampworking.

Can you imagine how much those lampworkers must be making if he's only
getting opening price on those sets and he still puts them up for auction?
I figure a dollar a day would be a magnificent salary to them.

Giselle

[Kalera]

These two lines made me chuckle: "Austin Hamilton Studio currently
employs 30 people dedicated to beadworking, and we are still growing."

Are they all in China?

"Glass beads have been an inherent part of the human experience since
the beginning of time."

People haven't been working glass since the beginning of time, moron.

Kandice Seeber wrote:
> Actually, they are still saying that their beads are annealed, and that they
> are made in their "studio".
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5012923115
>

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-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com

[Kalera]

Yes; basically, he's a liar.

Kandice Seeber wrote:
> The seller has a warehouse in Canada where they receive the beads from all
> over the world.
>

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-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com

[Kandice Seeber]

I wouldn't yell at ya - imported lampwork certainly has its place. A lot of
people use it, and that's totally cool. It the misrepresentation that
niggles some of us.

A lot of the Chinese stuff is starting to look really good. Unfortunately
for AH, they haven't gotten ahold of any that looks all that good to me.
The beads in my local bead store are much, much prettier, IMO. And there
are sellers on ebay who don't misrepresent what they have, and whose beads
are really well done for being imported beads. People just need to
understand that the imported factory made stuff isn't annealed, often isn't
cleaned of release, and can break much easier than the annealed stuff. But
for the price, that's something that a lot of people don't mind.

--
Kandice Seeber
www.lampwork.net

[Christina Peterson]

They are kind of pretty. And not everything we make needs art beads.
Sometimes OK really is good enough.

Tina

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[Christina Peterson]

Yes. The beads he sells might be OK, but not his business practices.
Specifically, he lies a lot.

Tina

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[Fragile Warrior Bees]

"Christina Peterson" <tinap...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Yes. The beads he sells might be OK, but not his business practices.
> Specifically, he lies a lot.
>
> Tina

Has anyone taken that up with eBay? They usually aren't too crazy about
that sort of thing, are they? The trouble is, I suppose, that you have to
prove he is intentionally lying to misrepresent his products. And unless he
admits to lying, how would you do it?

Giselle

[Kalera]

Yes, exactly. I honestly think he would do better to be honest about his
business, because it turns so many people off to be lied to. I see a lot
of pretty Chinese lampwork, and I don't have a problem with it for
reasons explained before... but lying I, and many people, do have a
problem with.

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-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com

[Kalera]

Tons of people have reported his auctions but because he's a Power
Seller, eBay doesn't care.

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-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com

[Fragile Warrior Bees]

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> Tons of people have reported his auctions but because he's a Power Seller,
> eBay doesn't care.

Ah.

Too bad then. Perhaps someone who has a website and some spare time (ha!)
could put up a page warning people what to look for and what to avoid on
auctions. Sort of "the difference between artist lampworking and mass
produced lampworking" primer? Not mentioning him by name, of course, but
giving some key points about what to look for in your less... um... *honest*
auctions. (Having a few hundred of them a month might be one of the big red
flags, for example.) And then, as a public service announcement every few
weeks, the link could be mentioned on here for newbies to the newsgroup...

There is someone who does a similar service for Native American Artifacts
and who lists eBay sellers who take new products and sell them as real
artifacts. Of course, that list is sent out via email on request but word
does get around and if you spend long enough in artifact groups, you DO hear
about it eventually.

Giselle

[Kalera]

That is a fabulous idea!

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-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com

[Lori Greenberg]

Just and FYI.....they're not talking about Beadnerd beads anymore!

Mine (BeadNerd) are all made by me in my studio! :o)

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www.lorigreenberg.com
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justbeads:
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[Christina Peterson]

Do you collect Native artifacts? I have lots of fun things. My favorite
thimbles are of oogruk (bearded sea lion) skin. They are getting harder to
find here, though I imagine I could ask a friend to get me some from the
coast. That's a traditional use item, of course, rather than an artifact.

Tina

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[Fragile Warrior Bees]

"Christina Peterson" <tinap...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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> Do you collect Native artifacts? I have lots of fun things. My favorite
> thimbles are of oogruk (bearded sea lion) skin. They are getting harder
> to
> find here, though I imagine I could ask a friend to get me some from the
> coast. That's a traditional use item, of course, rather than an artifact.
>
> Tina

I just got into hunting NA Indian artifacts -- it involves lots of wet
fields or creek beds and lots of bending down and rooting through all sorts
of rocks and other debris to find the rocks that show the touch of man. I
spent last year studying to do that *this* year. You really have to know
what you are looking for or you'd walk right by it.

I was lucky enough to be granted free run of a farm that had not only one,
but TWO prehistoric campsites on it at one time (and probably more, yet
undiscovered) and spent the spring/early summer picking up arrowheads and
stone tools that looked like they were made yesterday. I like the feeling
of holding something in my hand that was last touched/seen thousands of
years ago.

Indiana, apparently, is a hotbed of such things. Go figure.

BUT, I do collect thimbles, too, so if you ever come up with an oogruk one
you want to get rid of, email me. :D

Giselle

[Christina Peterson]

Oh yes! No lies, cheating or blah beads from Lori! Whether glass or poly.

Tina

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[Dr. Sooz]

~ Just and FYI.....they're not talking about Beadnerd beads anymore!

Mine (BeadNerd) are all made by me in my tudio! :o)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
RIGHT! (bears repeating)

[Kalera]

Incredibly true... and I am about crawling out of my skin over what I
(very naughtily) bought from her earlier today!!! I got the Tamale
Pods... OMG!

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-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com

[Kandice Seeber]

Oh, yeah - several times. I've had his auctions removed a handful of times
for various things, not the least of which was blatant theft from me (not
the bead designs but rather website content). He totally admitted to
stealing and said I was out of luck because everything on the web is subject
to stealing. Ebay pulled several of his auctions two days later for VERO
infractions. I've also had them pulled for website links and improper
category.

I usually don't report anyone to ebay, but this guy is so unethical that I
bend my own rules.

Ebay has never done anything about the misrepresentation however, because
that's really hard to prove, especially to ebay, who wouldn't know lampwork
if I threw it at them.

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Kandice Seeber
www.lampwork.net

[Kandice Seeber]

There are quite a few people who have done just that, and his seller name
has been all over the forums.

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Kandice Seeber
www.lampwork.net

[Dr. Sooz]

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYY!!
~~~~~~~~~~~
~ I got the Tamale Pods... OMG!