Kids Crafts Necklaces?
Otsinekwar
daughters Birthday party make Bracelets/Necklaces using Pony Beads, so
far no problem eh, I even got a good deal on some screw together
clasps($2 for a gross), I see now for stringing the beads, Beadalon,
looks a bit pricey to me tho, is there an advantage to beadalon over
using fishing line? I've got spools of 30 lb test mono filament, I
think the Beadalon says a break strength of 12 lbs. I also was
thinking of the high tech fishing lines like Spider Wire as they are
thinner but stronger than monofilament and likely easier to tie.
Any thoughts on this?
Second question, how should we tie the clasps on IOW what type of
knot?
OR should I get the crimping beads I see sold? If I go the crimping
bead route is there a special crimping tool for this or will a smooth
jawed needle nose plier work?
Nia:wen kowa many thanx for the help
BTW the girls stringing the beads will be from 3-10 years old so
"professional" looking results are not exactly neccessary tho I think
the clasps will at least let their creations last a while ;-)
I made some necklaces with my daughters a while back using Pony beads
and used the rubbery cord that comes on disposeable earplugs but
simply tied the ends together these didn't last as they kept
stretching them to go over their heads ;-)
Thanx
roxan
Power Pro are ok but monofilament line isn't. I also don't use the screw
clasp, hate them.
Roxan
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Lee S. Billings
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>Kwe Kwe akwekon, Hello all, my wife wants to have the kids at our
>daughters Birthday party make Bracelets/Necklaces using Pony Beads, so
>far no problem eh, I even got a good deal on some screw together
>clasps($2 for a gross), I see now for stringing the beads, Beadalon,
>looks a bit pricey to me tho, is there an advantage to beadalon over
>using fishing line? I've got spools of 30 lb test mono filament, I
>think the Beadalon says a break strength of 12 lbs. I also was
>thinking of the high tech fishing lines like Spider Wire as they are
>thinner but stronger than monofilament and likely easier to tie.
Cheap barrel clasps will cut thru cheap monofilament fairly quickly -- I've
been asked to repair kids' necklaces made that way which had broken, and it was
obvious (looking at the remains) what had happened. I think fishing lines are
more durable, and a better choice for this than beading wire.
A couple of overhand knots should hold the clasps on fairly well. You'll need
something like an awl or heavy needle to push the knots tightly into the
clasps, and some glue to dab on the knots afterwards if you want to make *sure*
they hold. I think any basic household cement will work for this, but you might
want to pick up some actual jeweler's glue at a crafts store just to be safe.
Celine
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Helen Page
link" (like a lightweight jumpring or something) into the necklaces so that
if it gets caught on something the link will break first and the child won't
get hurt.
Otsinekwar
Too strong so danger of strangulation? Too thick, or too difficult to
tie?
Thanx
Otsinekwar
crimp beads to attach the clasps. These necklaces are unlikely to be
kept forever or long ;-) more of a time passer for the kids at the
party. Then again you never know, another idea my wife had was to have
the kids make necklaces for the teddy bears they will also be making
at the party. Making is a stretch tho, more like stuffing with fluff
and zipping the back up.
What are your thoughts on using the "Super" fishing lines such as
Spiderwire? If I'm not mistaken they are braided kevlar and extremelt
strong. I've a spool or two of that lying about.
Nia:wen kowa Many Thanks
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Kandice Seeber
Magic or Gossamer Floss would be good stretchy cord to use. Also, pearl
cotton or equivelent would be good - and they can just tie knots on the
ends. I would not use monofilament - I don't think that's strong enough. I
am not really very experienced with children, but I would think that this
would be dangerous for 3 year olds - small beads and all can be swallowed.
Maybe age 5 and up? Anyway - good luck - sounds like fun! :)
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Kandice Seeber
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Christina Peterson
Tina
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Christina Peterson
just entertain children. It short changes them.
By the way, what is your language?
Tina
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AmazeR
> It's great that you ar encouraging the kids to make things. Too often we
> just entertain children. It short changes them.
>
Not only that!! This is why we have delinquints in society IMHO..
We so often underestimate children and doom them to boredom and
delinquency..
Mavis
Otsinekwar
> It rots from sunlight.
>
> Tina
DOH! Nia:wen kowa Thank you kindly, makes sense so that it doesn't
remain forever in our waters. never knew that.
O:nen ki' wahi' Bye for now.
Otsinekwar
> It's great that you ar encouraging the kids to make things. Too often we
> just entertain children. It short changes them.
>
> By the way, what is your language?
>
> Tina
Kwe Kwe Hello, my kids LOVE to make beaded necklaces and bracelets,
hoping when they get a bit older to start them on the loom too with
seed beads.
My language is Kanyen'keha, the Language of the People of the Flint,
commonly known as Mohawk which is a mispronounced form of an Algonquin
word, Mohiak, remember the Algonquin People and the
Rotinonsyonni(People of the Longhouse aka Iroquois another Algonquin
word misspelled meaning Red Adders) were enemies in days past, Mohiak
means "Eaters of Men" I'm told.
If interested in learning more of our language one of the best sites
on the web for it is
http://www.kahonwes.com , my site has some basics on it as well as a
children's video in progress. If your the Instant Messager type, check
out Monica Lamb's AI BOT Akhsotha(Grandmother) or her page at
http://www.onkwehonwe.com
O:nen ki' wahi' Bye for now
Skennen kenhak Let there be Peace.
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Otsinekwar
only 3 year old at the party that I know of is my daughter Angelique
and we've beaded together along with her Sister several times. Going
to be a small party and their Mommy's and Auntie's will be there to
help the kids. The birthday girl , Dominique, will be 4
Cheryl
I always do this if I string a child's necklace on SoftFlex -- How?
use a soft silver jump ring to attach the clasp to the necklace -
the jump ring will pull open - but the necklace will stay intact...
Cheryl
last semester of lawschool! yipee!
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Flameworked beads and glass
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Marisa Exter
would be more then enough for a few dollars (try http://www.shipwreck.com).
You can fix the ends to something by tying or even by just rolling it (it's
pretty sticky).
It should go through pony beads just fine, and is large enough to be easy for
young kids to handle.
This is what I use to make kids' necklaces I sell (a couple of charms on the
waxed linnen). Kids and teenagers even seem to like the texture of it. Not
exactly fine jewelry, but that isn't what you're looking for.
marisa2
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Dr. Sooz
with her TEETH.
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Sooz
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Kyla
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yourself beyond all reasonableness.
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Kyla
kids that aren't properly supervised, or are not experienced with what beads
are really for. Kids are so individual, really only a parent (or someone
very close to the kid) can judge what is safe for them.
http://green.3ddestiny.com/gallery/album02/aqw <--Ash getting ready to bead;
she picked out some red and blue color-lined Miyuki (sp?) square beads, and
some lime green vintage glass coin beads :o)
I have very clear memories of slicing cheese into cubes, and making omlettes
for my younger brother and myself while my mom slept in on Sundays...I was
only 3-4 years old :o)
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~Kyla~
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"If a packet hits a pocket on a socket on a port, and the bus is interrupted
at a very last resort, and the access of the memory makes your floppy disk
abort, then the socket packet pocket has an error to report."
-Thank you, Bill Gates, for bringing all this into our lives while enriching
yourself beyond all reasonableness.
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Otsinekwar
this LITTLE party is starting to get crazy ;-)! My Wife is getting
Fairy Outfits for our daughters complete with wands and wreaths etc
etc , Party has Fairy's EVERYWHERE! Plates napkins etc.
Thats why I'm going to fool with Monofilament and Spiderwire, already
have Spools and Spools of it on hand. Now that I'm home alone as
Ista'a ne Ake'nihstenha, Auntie and Mommy, are at a Yoga class and my
daughters are with our friend Phyllis and her daughter playing so time
to TEST! I think the Spiderwire will be easiest as it's thin and
strong! easily tied too. Compared to Beadalon it's pretty inexpensive
too. 150 yards about $7 , If I'm not mistaken Beadalon was around $5
for 10-20 yards.
Mebbe it's my Scottish/Mohawk ancestors The McCombre's peeking thru, I
DEFINITELY have the Short arms Deep Pockets syndrome ;-)
I feel like Mr Crocker on Fairly odd Parents.....Fairies Fairies!!!!!
Otsinekwar
breaks fairly easily.
Good and Bad in one ;-) But the main flaw was my girls would
STREEEEETCH it over there heads THEN waists till they finally broke!
Methinks with the screw together clasps they MIGHT not do this ;-)
O:nen ki' wahi'
Otsinekwar
Spiderwire and Trilene and a thought came to me, will 1*1 crimp beads
be sufficient to keep Pony beads from sliding right over them and
jamming against the Barrel Clasps? Or should I dig in my miserly
pocket and get some of them nifty Brass Spacers I've seen? I'm talking
bout the ones that are simple flat circles with a small hole thru the
center kinda like Heishi
Hmmmmmm, if I was doing these as a "Ebay" project I'd likely use Paua
or mebbe Turqouise Heishi. Dunno bout going that far for kids crafts
that are likely to be lost broken within a week
Nia:wen kowa Many Thanks
Otsinekwar
to arrive , hoping they'll be large enough to retard movement of the
Pony Beads. I did recieve my barrel clasps today tho. they even look
small enough to pass thru the hole of the Pony Beads ;-)
Kalera Stratton
Oh, dear. Oh DEAR.
-Kalera
Cheryl
I met a woman at the bead store yesterday who said she'd been trying to crimp
with her TEETH.
~~>>>>
wow....
hope she has stainless steel caps....
AmazeR
> I met a woman at the bead store yesterday who said she'd been trying to
> crimp with her TEETH.
> ~~
> Sooz
>
>
ROFLMAO
Oh, this is just toooo much - Tumeke!!!!
Ahh, I love it...
That's the best good laugh I've had in a while.
Mavis (who is resting her eye after a stick from a tree jabbed in it while
mowing the lawns!! OW!!!)
Dr. Sooz
>canal/crown adventure. Do you know how many sets of crimping pliers I could
>buy with just the downpayment? Egads. Heck, for what I'm going to end up
>paying, I could hire a "crimp wench" to crimp beads whenever I wanted them.
I know. My teeth were aching. She was in her 60s, too -- didn't she know
better?!?
The salesgals and I were being friendly with her (I was standing there talking
to them when she came up and asked about crimping). I talked to her a little
after that, and she freaked out (!) and fled! Okay, maybe she was a social
anxiety sufferer, but -- I'm not scary, am I? I was being very nice and
gentle.......
AmazeR
<snip>
> The salesgals and I were being friendly with her (I was standing there talking
> to them when she came up and asked about crimping). I talked to her a little
> after that, and she freaked out (!) and fled! Okay, maybe she was a social
> anxiety sufferer, but -- I'm not scary, am I? I was being very nice and
> gentle.......
> ~~
> Sooz
LOL.. Maybe she could see your amazing talent Sooz and couldn't handle
it - in case you asked to see some of her work or something..
What a worry!! Poor thing! Imagine crimping with your teeth!!!! LOL -
Just can't help myself..
Mavis
Christina Peterson
problem, which allow her to crimp with her teeth and be frightened of
friendliness. Poor woman.
Tina
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>problem, which allow her to crimp with her teeth and be frightened of
>friendliness. Poor woman.
Yeah. You read my mind. Poor thing.
KDK
Kathy K
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> On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 19:58:10 -0500, Otsinekwar wrote
> (in message <176ac4e6.04020...@posting.google.com>):
>
> > Nia:wen Marisa, Thank you. Trying to keep costs down as the cost of
> > this LITTLE party is starting to get crazy ;-)! My Wife is getting
> > Fairy Outfits for our daughters complete with wands and wreaths etc
> > etc , Party has Fairy's EVERYWHERE! Plates napkins etc.
> >
> Hoo Boy - have you come to the right place! Memorable parties for kids are
my
> specialty. This year's theme is Fairies, I take it? Simple.
>
> First off go to your favorite supplier of cheap silk flowers and loads of
> narrow pink pastel ribbon. Make sure that you get a variety of silk
flowers,
> ranging from the itty-bitty ones in Wedding favors to Full Sized Daisies
used
> in crafty stuff. Grab a paddle of florist's wire for $0.76. For the
purpose
> of this exercise, I'm going to call your favorite vendor of such things
> "All-Mart."
>
> Narrow pastel ribbons are in the craft department, near the flowers, and
come
> on small rolls for about $0.33. Buy some in every pastel color they have.
> You'll need a lot in both the 1/8" size and the 1/4" size. If you only go
> with one, buy the 1/4" size.
>
> Next, roll your shopping carriage over to party supplies. (I know that
this
> isn't the most efficient traffic pattern in All-Mart, but if I can do it,
so
> can you) Ideally, find a solid mylar disposable tablecloth in gold or
> silver. If not, any solid pink will do. Get the plastic kind: the paper
> kind is worthless for this exercise. Mosey over to the lacey looking
> placemats: If you have a gold tablecloth, get silver; if you have a
silver
> tablecloth, get pink. If your tablecloth is pink, get either metallic
color.
>
> While you're here in party supplies, look for some plastic champagne
flutes,
> the ones that look like long stemmed crystal ones. (About a dozen for
$0.88)
> Pink paper plates are always a hit as well, unless the birthday girl wants
> fairy plates and paperware. If you have a few extra coins of fairy gold
in
> your pocket, you'll really wow the kiddos with real glass champagne
> flutes.They're a few aisles over from the plastic ones, and cost about
$0.50
> apiece. In either case, the fairies can take their champagne flutes with
> them when they turn back into little girls.
>
> Okay, swear at me mentally in the All-Mart, as I send you back over to the
> craft/fabric department. for each girl, you need 3 feet of 1" wide
waistband
> elastic, and 2 yards of nylon tulle net. (If you don't know what this is,
> the elderly lady in fabric will guide you. BTW, Tulle is dirt cheap -
this
> won't break the bank) Get an assortment of colors of tulle, the more lurid
> the better, and sparkles are always popular. While you're here, get some
> fancy little bags in cellophane or tulle in the cake decorating part of
the
> craft department.
>
> Look around to see if there is a metallic Sharpie to buy in the
department,
> before you head for the checkout. They usually have them in the
stationary
> department. You NEED something to mark each girl's possessions, so the
> sharpie is essential.
>
> Pay for your stuff, get a cold beverage for the ride home, and then I'm
> putting you to work. The one thing that will take the most time are the
> tutus. Oh, I didn't mention that fairies wear Tutus? They do now.
> Fortunately, they're dead simple to make, especially if you have access to
a
> sewing machine. Fold each 2 yard piece of net the long way, so you end up
> with a long tube like piece with four layers. Machine stitch a seam abut
> 1-1/2" inches from the folded edge all the way down the long piece of
fabric.
> If you have pinking shears, cut apart some of the layers and make little
> fringie things. For each tutu, cut a length of waistband elastic slightly
> larger than each child's actual waist size. These things are going to
haunt
> you for a while, and will usually be worn over clothes. Thread the
elastic
> through the 1-1/2" tube created by your stitching, gathering the excess
> material onto the elastic. When all is gathered, sew or safety pin the
ends
> of the elastic together. If you're an overachiever, sew the open seam,
too.
>
> Then come the fairy crowns: braid together a 2' length of floral wire and
> the stems of silk flowers (small ones work great, larger ones work okay,
but
> are harder to work with. When the crown is put together, wind all the
wire
> ends with a bit of masking tape, if you have it. If not, you did buy a
heck
> of a lot of ribbon, didn't you? Take a length of this ribbon, fold it in
> half and make a bow with long streamers. Attach this to the now lovely
> "fairy crowns."
>
> The table gets set with a floral or pastel flat bedsheet, unless you own a
> pink or lavender tablecloth. (I do not) Cover that sheet with the mylar
> tablecloth and all the matching paper goods. Strew a bit of that nasty
> sparkles, sequins and glitter that my sister insists on putting in all her
> written correspondence. Each girl should get a silk rose with a white
ribbon
> tied around it at her place.
>
> The champagne flutes are now meant to hold fairy nectar. Tie a sprig of
silk
> forget-me-nots around the stem of the glass with pastel ribbon, and let
the
> long ends of the bow streamer down to the table. Mark each glass with the
> fairy's name by writing on the ribbon with your Sharpie. Fairies get
> amazingly territorial about such things. The fancy tulle or plastic bags
get
> the same treatment: a few silk flowers tied to them with an inordinately
> long identifying ribbon.
>
> Your fairies are going to make jewelry, and they can keep their finished
> creations nice and safe in the bags while they go chase and tackle other
> fairies for real or imagined transgressions.
>
> Food: Petit Fours are always considered amazing fairy food, along with
> miniature cupcake (a frosting flower on each one is a big deal), and
whatever
> the birthday girl has chosen for her menu is automatic fairy food.
Fairies
> drink nectar, which is hard to get in these parts, so I substitute
sparkling
> cider. The bottle looks like champagne (a few extra lengths of ribbon
helps
> the illusion) and the bubbles set it way, way above ordinary apple juice.
>
> If your birthday fairy is determined to have wings, I suggest you go to a
> party supply store and buy them. I've made wings, but the time involved
was
> not at all worth it. While you're there, get a tiara: after all, the
> birthday fairy deserves some extra glamour on her special day!.
>
> Have fun!
>
> Kathy N-V (has had kids fighting to come to DD's birthday parties)
>
KDK
teeth??? OW.
Kathy K
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