Bead & Fiber Artists Wanted
Lora Andersen
located in Oak Ridge, Tennessee (next to Knoxville), will jury the
work of new bead and fiber artists July 15-30. Those invited to
consign will be offered 70/30% consignment, representation by Lora
Andersen of Life's A Peach at all Intergalactic Bead Shows, and
participation in an e-commerce (secure server) web site. Should you
wish to participate, please send your name, address, phone number,
photos of your work, bio, and a return envelope with postage to:
Lora Andersen
jLife's A Peach
109 Towne Road
Oak Ridge, TN 37830
Sincerely,
Lora Andersen
Life's A Peach
www.lifesapeach.net
Carl Downey
Lora Andersen wrote:
>
> Life's A Peach, A Gallery of Handcrafted Jewelry, Beads & Fiber Art,
> located in Oak Ridge, Tennessee (next to Knoxville), will jury the
> work of new bead and fiber artists July 15-30. Those invited to
> consign will be offered 70/30% consignment, representation by Lora
> Andersen of Life's A Peach at all Intergalactic Bead Shows, and
Don't do it folks...I have had dealings in person with these folks.I
would not let them represent my work if they were paying 100% for it.
Wheat Carr
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>
> Don't do it folks...I have had dealings in person with these folks.I
> would not let them represent my work if they were paying 100% for it.
I will speak as having know the Andersons for about 2 years now and
wondering what on earth could have prompted such a note on your part.
To the best of my knowledge, while not always satisfied with the volume
of sales, no consigning artist has had anything but an otherwise
positive experience with Life's A Peach. And, after reading your note,
I asked and it seems that you have never been a consignor.
So, on what do you base your defamation
Lora Andersen
> Don't do it folks...I have had dealings in person with these folks.I
>would not let them represent my work if they were paying 100% for it.
I have no idea who you are or what you are talking about. I would
appreciate it if you have a problem with me, to speak directly with me
about it vs. posting something negative online. I have only been open
since February, and I have over 40 consignors...you have never been
one of them. In addition, to my knowledge, I have never seen nor
purchased any work from you. Perhaps you have the wrong company.
Lora Andersen
> Don't do it folks...I have had dealings in person with these folks.I
>would not let them represent my work if they were paying 100% for it.
I figured it out. It is not "Carl Downey" that has a dispute with me,
it is Rebecca Downey (using her husband's name). Rebecca is a lady
who was upset with me at the Asheville show because SHE SAID a former
friend of hers, an artist whom I represent, "copied" her animal beads.
Animals are animals. You can't make a cat look like a butterfly. To
me, her beads looked nothing like the artists' beads whom I represent.
Rebecca (Becky) was very upset and insisted that I GIVE the beads to
her so she could send them back to the artist along with a nasty
letter. I said that the issue was between her and the artist and that
this was the first time I had ever heard of a conflict, and that the
goods were not my property, they were consigned goods and not mine to
"give away". I offered to remove the beads from my table for the
duration of the show so that she would feel better, but she said she
didn't trust me to do that - she wanted to buy them. Because she was
so upset and insisted on buying the beads, I offered her the beads at
30% off...which represents my commission. Her behavior was such that
the show organizer was concerned and asked me if he should have her
removed from the premises, but I said no.
I am a jewelry designer myself and in addition, I represent fine bead
artists and jewelry designers in my store. Issues between the artists
are just that...they are issues between the artists. I did the
responsible thing...when I got back, I contacted the artist regarding
the issue and she assured me that her works are her own. After
reading Rebecca's answer to my posting, I called her to ask her why
she would post something so negative about me and my business. She
said that she is still outraged that I would have the audicity to make
her pay for the beads at the show and I deserve to have my name
smeared on the Internet (then she hung up on me). I have every reason
to believe my artist, based on Becky's behavior at the bead show and
in the telephone conversation.
As a closing remark, I truly believe in KARMA...what goes around comes
around. I strive to run my business responsibly and ethically, and I
believe I have done so in this situation to the best of my ability.
Sincerely,
Lora Lucinda Andersen
Owner, Life's A Peach Gallery
Lora Andersen
Carl Downey
Lora Andersen wrote:
>
>
> I figured it out. It is not "Carl Downey" that has a dispute with me,
> it is Rebecca Downey (using her husband's name). Rebecca is a lady
> who was upset with me at the Asheville show because SHE SAID a former
> friend of hers, an artist whom I represent, "copied" her animal beads.
> Animals are animals. You can't make a cat look like a butterfly. To
> me, her beads looked nothing like the artists' beads whom I represent.
.....................................................................................
In answer to lora,
Yes I am Rebecca Downey.I have been a glass artist
for 20 years.I am very proud of my work.My work has appeared in 4
national glass magazines including a cover feature.I have been making
the beads in question for 6 years.They are in a series of 35 different
animals that I designed and sell at shows and through galleries in the
southwest.They are copyrighted designs and I have ask the artist(Kay
Delong) in question on 3 separate occasions to stop making exact
copies of 6 of my beads and selling them as her own creations.Yes Kay
and I were friends at one time but because of her unprofessional
behavior we are no longer friends.I live in Texas,Kay lives in
Tennessee,the bead show,where I met lora was in Asheville, North
Carolina.I quess Kay thought that she was safe.I happened to be in
Asheville for an artist workshop and visited the show while I was
there.And yes I was upset to find EXACT copies of my beads sitting
under a photo of Kay.And yes they are exact copies-I even went out to
the car and brought my beads in to show Lora.The first words out of
Lora's mouth were"oh my they are copies of your beads".But when I ask
her to please remove them from the table and send them back to Kay,she
got all rude and nasty about it.And tried to justify it by
saying"animals are animals".Other glass artists make animal beads.They
do not look like mine.And mine do not look like thiers.I have always
tried very hard to never copy another artist work,no matter how small
it may be.So I got upset and ask that she either allow me to send them
back to Kay or let me buy them because they were not going to stay on
the table with Kays name on them.Lora said no and I got alittle more
upset because I knew the moment I walked out the door she would put
them back out on the table.Her attitude was so uncaring and
unprofessional.I was just stunned.When I finally got upset enough to
raise my voice and cause a small scene in front of her table( which I
do apologize for) she then sold them to me.I contacted Kay when I got
back home and informed her that if I ever found out that she was
making and selling my designs again that she would not be dealing with
me anymore but with a third party.I am very proud of my work and it is
my work not Kays.I will be glad to send anyone a scan of my beads
sitting next to Kays copies so you can jugde for yourself.
As for hanging up on Lora.I simply told her that I had nothing more
to say to her.
Rebecca Downey
Cahslc
With all due respect, it sounds like Lora got caught in the middle of a dispute
between you and Kay. And in all fairness to Lora, the nature of her business
dictates that her loyalty goes to the artists she is representing (of course,
she also has the right to dump them if she feels they are stealing someone
else's designs).
And on the other hand, I can certainly appreciate that walking into a bead show
and seeing exact knock offs of one's own beads would be terribly disconcerting
and could certainly cause someone to act out of character.
As an owner of several of your animal beads, I would love to see the scan you
have of the beads in question so that I might reach my own conclusion as to
your old friend's intentions. If she has indeed copied your designs as nearly
as she could, TRY to feel flattered and think how sad it would be to feel the
need to copy others and never spread one's own creative wings.
Peace and harmony ladies,
Carol
pj friend
Another saga of who is right and who is wrong. Or two wrongs don't make
anything right?
Personally , I think that Rebecca was way out of line approaching Lora at a
show about an artist's work who was not even in attendance.
I am amazed that someone who has been an artist for 20 years would create
such a scene. Just not professional.
And then for her husband to come on a news group and bad mouth her ......not
really very professional at all.
Copyright infringements should be handle between the artists in question and
not in front of a group of people. And definitely not with accusations.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if Lora was interested in having Carl deal
with a third party on defamation of character.
my best,
pj
Cahslc wrote in message <19990714222648...@ng-fz1.aol.com>...
Wheat Carr
For those of us who witnessed the event, it would seem that either you
AND your husband owe Laura an apology - you for your behavior at the
show and since, your husband for his libelous statements, or again you
if it was you using his ID to sneak in yet another attack - exactly as
you threatened publicly - to destroy her business.
Loyalty aside, you demanded the beads be given to you AND made the
assumption that she would not honor her word to you to remove them
pending an opportunity to speak with the artist she represents. Instead
to avoid any further public tantrums, she choose to sell them at her
cost so she could honor her obligation to her consignor.
Laura has a fidicuary and moral responsibility for ANY work that is
consigned and it was not out of line to decline to simply give them to
you. After all, all she has from either artist is thier word that the
work is original. How is she to know that what you brought from your car
was not a copy - maybe of Kay's work, maybe someone else. Would you
trust someone you did not know to take property of another jsut because
they were yelling at you?
A public display such as we all witnessed at the show is not very
professional either.
All things considered, I was amazed that Laura was a polite as she was
considering how you choose to verbally attack her.
Like you, I have found exact copies of my work on display - complete
with mistakes and my initials and a little device I always use.
Next time this happens - consider BUYING the beads along with something
from the seller which says who made them. Then you would have what you
needed - proof of the plagarism and that "3rd party" -presumably a
lawyer could have handled this with a simple cease and desist or the
violate of your rights would stand to lose in court AND I suspect the
total cooperation of the seller.
Then, to threaten and follow thru by attacking Life's A Peach without
identifying yourself or explaining why in yet another public forum is
certainly not adding to your
credibility.
Your work is great, you have every right to defend it, but may I suggest
you handle in a professional manner instread of making attacks on
innocent bystanders caught in the crossfire of your wrath.
Sincerely
Wheat