WELCOME to the rec.collecting.stamps.* newsgroups
Jon Bell
to
rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
rec.collecting.stamps.marketplace
then welcome! The rest of us here hope that you will enjoy the
discussions of stamps and stamp collecting, and take advantage of our
"virtual marketplace" for buying and selling stamps.
Although this posting focuses mainly on the r.c.s.* groups, you should be
aware that there are other stamp-related groups, for example
rec.collecting.postal-history (for collectors of stamped and stampless
envelopes, postal cards, etc., as they relate to the development and
history of postal services) and alt.collecting.stamps (a general-purpose
newsgroup about stamp collecting).
In order to use the r.c.s.* groups effectively, you should know something
about their purposes and history.
rec.collecting.stamps.marketplace (r.c.s.m) is basically for buy/sell
advertisements from stamp dealers and collectors
rec.collecting.stamps.discuss (r.c.s.d) is basically for
discussion-type postings, announcements, and requests for trading
partners for stamps.
You can find links to the "charters" for these groups, which define what
kinds of postings are appropriate for them, at
http://web.presby.edu/~jtbell/usenet/rcs/
Please note that these two groups were created specifically to separate
"discussion" type postings from buy/sell advertisements. Some people are
particularly sensitive to ads in r.c.s.d, and if you post one there, you
will likely receive e-mail about it. Some responses may be less tactful
about this than others. If you posted an ad because you didn't know about
the "rules", don't take these responses personally. We all make mistakes
once in a while. Simply post your ads to r.c.s.m in the future, to
prevent this from happening again.
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Jon Bell <jtb...@presby.edu>
Jon Bell
Chris Anstead
Jon Bell wrote in message ...
>If you are a newcomer to the rec.collecting.stamps.* newsgroups, that is,
>to
>
> rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
> rec.collecting.stamps.marketplace
>
I think a useful piece of info for your welcome would be the inclusion of
the location of the FAQ,
This might help the first time visitor sort through the common questions.
All the best,
Chris Anstead
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Jon Bell
Chris Anstead <acro...@superaje.com> wrote:
>I think a useful piece of info for your welcome would be the inclusion of
>the location of the FAQ,
>This might help the first time visitor sort through the common questions.
Duh! I'll go add it right now (http://www.pgacon.com/osf/title.html).
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Jon Bell <jtb...@presby.edu> Presbyterian College
Dept. of Physics and Computer Science Clinton, South Carolina USA
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Douglas MYALL
might be able to add to it. All I got was Peter's one-page site which,
under the title `Table of Contents' merely referred me to what it called
outdated sites. Clicking on the one for Europe I got the message
`FORBIDDEN - you do not have permission to access this site'.
Am I missing something?
Deegam
Jon Bell <jtb...@presby.edu> wrote in article <Fo0rJ...@presby.edu>...
Jon Bell
Douglas MYALL <xa...@dial.pipex.com> wrote:
[about Peter's FAQ at http://www.pgacon.com/osf/title.html]
>I thought I would have a look at this site in case there was anything I
>might be able to add to it. All I got was Peter's one-page site which,
>under the title `Table of Contents' merely referred me to what it called
>outdated sites. Clicking on the one for Europe I got the message
>`FORBIDDEN - you do not have permission to access this site'.
>
>Am I missing something?
The phrase "Table of Contents" is itself a link. Click on it to get to
the actual table of contents.
Jon Bell
to
rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
rec.collecting.stamps.marketplace
then welcome! The rest of us here hope that you will enjoy the
http://web.presby.edu/~jtbell/usenet/rcs/
For general information about stamp collecting, see the "Collecting Stamps
FAQ" at
http://www.pgacon.com/osf/title.html
--
Jon Bell <jtb...@presby.edu>
albumen
You say that the marketplace is for buy/sell ads, but the
discussion forum is for trading stamps? Tell me what is the
difference? And did you anticipate a one or two line invitation
from collectors to trade stamps, or is the following regular
posting to this newgroup what you had in mind:
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Currently with 2250+ listings, representing 87+ nations
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Some recent comments from David Gurevitz of Rio de Janeiro,
Brazil
"The STL does a very good job of stimulating many people to
collect stamps again. As you probably know, philately was
becoming less popular in much of the world. It was difficult
to find traders to help us with foreign stamps.
Now, with the help of the STL, I've made many good trades, and
improved my collection quite a bit over the 15 months I've been
listed with the STL.
I've been in touch with many old stamp collectors, here in
Brazil,
who have never used a PC, and showing them the advantage of
using
a PC and connecting with the 'Net, and using the STL to improve
their collections too. Thank you very much for making the STL
available to us."
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Michele Giordano made the following comments on January 31st,
1997
"Thank you for the STL. It's great!! In one year I've almost com-
pleted a US collection, from 1930 to 1980, (without spending a
cent,
except for postage!). Another important thing I've noticed is
that
a lot of people...like me...started collecting again after
finding
the STL on the Internet. I think the STL has contributed to
helping
philately to survive!!!"
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Bardoliwala, Chirayu S. dr_ch...@yahoo.com Location: Baroda,
Gujarat, India
Offer: Mint/used TOPICALS: Nobel Prize Winners, Water and
Evolution Want: Mint/used TOPICALS: Nobel Prize Winners, Water
and Evolution Note: I'm interested in Post Marks & Postal
Stationery, relative to
my Wants. I'm also interested in Worldwide bank notes.
Societies: Baroda Philatelic Society
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Beerwald, Roy r...@global.net.pg Location: Lae, Papua New Guinea
Offer: Older Papua New Guinea and new issues as well...cash
Want: Papua New Guinea...old or new
Note: I will trade for, or buy, any PNG stamps, whether they be
individuals, sets or collections.
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Bellanger, Bruno bbell...@wanadoo.fr Location: France
Offer: Mint/used France - Used Germany, Scandinavia, Great
Britain,
Jersey, Guernsey and Isle of Man
Want: Portugal, Great Britain, Jersey, Guernsey, Isle of Man,
US,
Germany, Greece, Scandinavia, Iceland and Canada Note: I'd like
to trade on a 1:1 basis, in packets of 50. Wantlists
are welcome. I'll also trade by catalogue values.
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Ben-Shitreet, Ofira Ofi_i...@yahoo.com Location: Beit She'an,
Israel
Offer: Used Worldwide, especially Israel and US Want: Worldwide,
especially Arab States, Africa & South America Note: I'll reply
to all e-mails.
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Boon Siew, Lee bsl...@yahoo.com Location: Malaysia
Offer: Malaysia first day covers {FDC's} and cash Want:
Worldwide first day covers, especially from Canada, Hong Kong,
US, Macau, Taiwan, China, Japan, South Korea, Australia, New
Zealand, Singapore and Europe
Note: I'd like to exchange on a 1:1 basis. I will buy Societies:
Malaysia Philatelic Society
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Clarke, Anthony im_cl...@yahoo.com Location: Sydney, NSW,
Australia
Offer: Used Australia
Want: Used Worldwide and/or your country
Note: I prefer to trade 1:1, in packets of 100 or more. Quality
for quality please.
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Coene, Jozef jozef...@skynet.be Location: Belgium
Offer: Used Belgium, Germany, Congo-Zaire & West Europe - Mint
Rwanda Want: Worldwide
Note: I'd like to trade on 1:1 basis, in packets of 50, 75 or
100.
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Cura, Josefina jot...@skyinet.net Location: Manila, Philippines
Offer: Mint/used Philippines from 1946 to present Want:
Mint/used France, Monaco, Great Britain, Italy, China, Spain
Hong Kong & Thailand - Mint WW TOPICALS - Used large TOPICALS
from China, Hong Kong, Greece, Israel, Japan, Thailand, Spain,
Indonesia, British Colonies, Cyprus, Scandinavia, Lithuania,
Africa, Great Britain, Canada, New Zealand, Australia & more
Note: I'd prefer to trade used large stamps in packets of 100 or
more, on a 1:1 basis.
Societies: Filipinas Stamp Collectors' Club
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Daelemans, Renilde lu...@pandora.be Location: Mortsel, Belgium
Offer: Used West Europe, Worldwide and several TOPICALS Want:
Worldwide, especially Japan, New Zealand, Australia, Africa,
West Europe and Caribbean Islands - TOPICALS: Medicine, Xmas,
Flowers, Sea Life, Ships, Trains, Aircraft, Mushrooms, Flags
and Various Religions
Note: I trade on a 1:1 basis. I have no catalogues and don't
work
with wantlists. I prefer stamps from recent years.
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Davis, Steve sbd...@home.com Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Offer: Canada, US, Australia and various TOPICALS Want: Used
recent US issues {last 5 years}, Namibia & South Africa
TOPICALS: Wild Cats, Primates, Elephants & Whales Note: I prefer
to trade 1:1, 25 or 30 at a time. Societies: APS, Calgary
Philatelic Society
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Daya, Sajid juliu...@usa.net Location: India
Offer: Mint/used India singles and complete year sets Want:
Great Britain, Australia, New Zealand and Japan Note: I'm
flexible as to exchange agreements. I'm interested in
correspondence with other stamp collectors.
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De Bastiani, Bruno ig...@hydromail.com Location: France
Offer: Mint/used France and used Worldwide
Want: TOPICALS: Fish and Crustaceans
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Donohue, Joseph W. j...@jdonohue.freeserve.co.uk Location:
England, UK
Offer: Used Great Britain definitives & some commems, some
Guernsey,
Isle of Man and Jersey
Want: Used Great Britain, Jersey, Guernsey & Isle of Man commems
&
Worldwide - I have a special interest in Cyprus Note: I'd like
to trade on a 1:1 or SG Catalogue value basis, in
packets of 50 or more. I prefer not to buy or sell. Societies:
Crosby Philatelic Society
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Elovitch, Zohar zohar_e...@creoscitex.com Location: Natania,
Israel
Offer: Israel and Worldwide
Want: Worldwide, especially Arab nations and Far East Asia
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Etzion, Tuvi etz...@cs.technion.ac.il Location: Haifa, Israel
Offer: Poland {pre-1960}, Greenland, Great Britain, Germany,
Israel
and Worldwide - TOPICALS: Fauna, Flora, Space, Sports, Chess
and Science
Want: Denmark, Greenland & Faroes - TOPICALS: Chess, Waterfalls,
Minerals and International Year of the Child 1979 WWW-Page:
http://www.cs.technion.ac.il/~etzion
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Evans, David dandk...@hotmail.com Location: Blackpool,
Lancashire, England, UK
Offer: Great Britain
Want: Early British Commonwealth, especially Australia & New
Zealand Societies: Blackpool Philatelic Society
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Fundarek, Marian m.fun...@centrum.cz Location: Zilina,
Slovakia
Offer: Used Europe, especially Slovakia
Want: Worldwide, especially Australia, New Zealand and Germany
- TOPICALS: Coins and Bank Notes on stamps Note: Prefer to trade
in packets of 50-100.
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Gagne, Jean-Francois jf...@globetrotter.net Location: Pointe-au-
Pere, Quebec, Canada
Offer: Used Canada...definitives and commoratives Want: Africa,
Middle East, Balkans, Asia, island countries and all
of the Antarctic territories
Note: I don't use any catalogues. I'd like to trade on a 1:1
basis,
in packets of 50 or 100, all different.
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Galantini, Juan juanga...@lycos.com.ar Location: Bahia
Blanca, Argentina
Offer: Used Argentina, North America, Latin America & South
America Want: Worldwide
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Gaudreau, John ggau...@golden.net Location: Cambridge,
Ontario, Canada
Offer: Used Canada, Worldwide, US and British Commonwealth Want:
Used Ireland, Channel Islands, Netherlands {semi-postals},
Australia, New Zealand and Papua New Guinea Note: I'd like to
trade on a 1:1 basis, in packets of 50/75/100. All
stamps traded must be in good and undamaged condition.
Societies: Grand River Valley Philatelic Society
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Golebiewski, Krzysztof krz...@pa139.slupsk.sdi.tpnet.pl
Location: Czluchow, Poland
Offer: Poland
Want: Used TOPICALS: Europa and CEPT
Note: I'd like to trade on a 1:1 basis, in packets of 50. I use
the
Michel catalogues. I like to trade phonecards too.
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Greenberger, Daniel V. ofek...@barak-online.net Location:
Jerusalem, Israel
Offer: Mint Israel, with or without Tabs, from 1951 to 2000
Used Israel, with or without Tabs, from 1948 to 2000 Want: Used
Germany, Bundespost, {1991-2000}, West Berlin, from 1949
to 1989, Great Britain Machins, US, from 1975 to 2000, & used
France from 1849 to 1932 - mint/used France from 1932 to 1999
Note: I have Michel based Wantlists for Germany, W. Berlin,
Great
Britain & France. Scott based Wantlist for the USA. For
Israel, please quote Bale or Philex numbers.
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Halevi, Moshe moshe_...@yahoo.com Location: Israel
Offer: Mint/used Israel {1955-2000} & Worldwide - TOPICALS:
Animals
and Art
Want: Mint/used Asia, Brazil, Belize, Costa Rica & tropical
Africa
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Heiser, Gary myhobby...@webmail.bellsouth.net Location:
Harrison, Tennessee, USA
Offer: Used US Commemoratives, 1990 to present day Want: US pre-
cancels & Worldwide, and/or your country Note: I prefer to trade
1:1, in packets of 25-50 stamps. I'll try to
help with Wantlists for used USA commems from 1940 to present.
Societies: Chattanooga Stamp Club
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Hickey, Denis redway...@yahoo.com Location: Sutton, England,
UK
Offer: Great Britain and Worldwide
Want: Worldwide, and/or your country
Note: I'm a fairly new collector with an interest in building up
my
collection of worldwide. I'd like to trade on a 1:1 basis,
in packets of 25, 50 or 100 all different.
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Higgins, Daniel dhigg...@hotmail.com Location: Hampshire,
England
Offer: Used Great Britain, France, US, India and Worldwide Want:
Used France and US
Note: I'd like to trade on a catalogue value basis, using
Wantlists.
I use Yvert for France and Scott for the USA.
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Hussain, Mansoor B. manso...@hotmail.com Location: Mangalore,
Karnataka, India
Offer: India Post Independence - TOPICAL: Ships Want: India Post
Independence - TOPICAL: Ships Societies: Dakshina Kannada
Philatelic Society
WWW-Page: http://www.geocities.com/dakshina_kan_pa/
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Jeppu, Yogananda yvj_...@yahoo.com Location: Bangalore,
Karnataka, India
Offer: India Post Independence
Want: India Post Independence
Societies: dakshina kannada philatelic association WWW-Page:
http://www.geocities.com/dakshina_kan_pa/
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Kai, Wang wan...@public.nc.jx.cn Location: Nanchang, Jiangxi, PR
China
Offer: Mint China, Japan & Hong Kong singles, FDCs, used Covers,
post
cards, souvenir sheets - TOPICALS
Want: Worldwide mint singles, souvenir sheets, post cards, used
Covers and TOPICAL material
Note: I can offer you philatelic magazines and newspapers of
China,
Japan and Hong Kong, and would be interested in the same items
from you and your country, as well as catalogues.
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Karlsson, Soren soren.k...@zeta.telenordia.se Location:
Sweden
Offer: Used Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Norway, Australia -
Worldwide
mixes
Want: Denmark, Finland, Belgium and Worldwide Note: I don't buy
or sell. I like to exchange 50/100/150 at a time. Societies:
Swedish Filatilistic Society
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Koo, Kelly Kook...@hotmail.com Location: Perak, Malaysia
Offer: Malaysia, which includes many TOPICALS & commemoratives
Want: Worldwide, and/or your country...all countries Note: I
hope to find many trading partners around the world. Societies:
Post Malaysia Philately Club
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Korolev, Ivan A. kor...@mail.ru Location: Tomsk, Russia
Offer: MNH USSR, Russia and some ex-USSR countries Want: MNH
Worldwide
Note: My general trading policy is "1:1", and only complete
sets.
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Krishna, S. Radha radah...@yahoo.com Location: Bangalore,
India
Offer: Mint/used TOPICALS: Fauna, Flora, Sports and Fish Want:
Mint/used TOPICALS: Fauna, Flora, Sports and Fish
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La Pietra, Michele mlap...@pronet.it Location: Rome, Italy
Offer: Mint Italy & Vatican singles, FDCs, Postal stationery,
flight
covers and pictorial cancellations
Want: Mint TOPICALS: Computers, Calculations & Space Shuttles
and
all philatelic items everything related to them Societies:
AICAM, ATA
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Lambert, Alvin L. stm...@aol.com Location: San Antonio, Texas,
USA
Offer: Iceland to 1996, German Modern and Semi postals to 1999,
Japan
to 1999 and Norway to present day
Want: Bermuda, Bahamas, Barbados and British Guiana Note: I have
all, or most of the very low values for my Wants, and
would like to fill the holes for the better values. Societies:
APS, AFSEC & ISWSC
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Laurent, Marine marine_...@yahoo.com Location: Paris, France
Offer: Used Worldwide, especially Europe
Want: Used Worldwide...everything except France Note: I'd like
to trade on a 1:1 basis, in packets of 50/100/150.
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McDonald, Marty martym...@mail.com Location: New York City,
New York, USA
Offer: Mint/used US - Used Canada, Great Britain, Ireland,
Australia,
and some Worldwide - TOPICALS: Birds and Animals Want: Used
Canada, Great Britain & Ireland - TOPICALS: Birds, Bears,
and Wildcats/Feral Cats
Note: I have wantlists for my collections with Scott numbers. I
prefer used stamps and would like to trade 1:1 in packets of
25 to 100 or by catalogue value. Topicals: Falcons and other
birds of prey preferred. Whatever you prefer, I'm flexible!!
Societies: ATA
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Mendoza, Monica sta...@intercom.es Location: Rubi, Spain
Offer: Mint/used Spain, Spanish Andorra and West Europe
- Mint TOPICAL: Sports...singles and FDCs - cash Want: TOPICALS:
Olympic Games and Cycling...all sorts of Olympic
Games memorabilia and philatelic material Note: I only wish to
trade with serious collectors. I use Michel,
Yvert and Scott catalogues. 1:1 trading is welcome too.
My boyfriend and I would like to create an Olympic Games
collectors club on the 'Net. If interested, get in touch.
Societies: APS, SPI
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Minitadis, Dimitris mi...@hol.gr Location: Piraeus, Greece
Offer: Mint TOPICALS: Minerals, Earth Sciences, Paleontology,
Oil
exploration, Speleology and Greek Archeology...singles, FDCs,
Maximal Cards, FDCs & other geophilatelic documents Want: Mint
TOPICALS: Minerals, Earth Sciences, Gemology, Geology,
Geophysics, Geochemistry & Oil Exploration...singles, FDCs,
Maximal Cards, FDCs & other geophilatelic Worldwide items. Note:
I'd like to exchange on a 1:1 basis. The person who makes
the first contact sends the front end of a trade that is
agreed upon. I'd like to make contact with stamp collectors
who are also mineral and gemstone collectors. Societies: Piraeus
Philatelic Society
WWW-Page: http://users.hol.gr/~minat
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Mohanani, Kamal dr_kamal...@hotmail.com Location: Baroda,
Gujarat, India
Offer: Mint/used TOPICALS: Mountains, Endangered Species,
Costumes,
Hair Styles, Personalities, Gandhi, Butterflies, Trees, Fruit,
Arms & Ammunition and Flowers...singles and postmarks Want:
Mint/used TOPICALS: Mountains, Endangered Species, Costumes,
Hair Styles, Personalities, Gandhi, Butterflies, Trees, Fruit,
Arms & Ammunition, Flowers, Volcanos, Rivers, Insects, Forts
& Castles and Adventures on Mountains...singles & Postmarks
Note: No CTOs {cancelled to order} please.
Societies: Baroda Philatelic Society
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Moore, Nazeem nazee...@hotmail.com Location: Oberhausen,
Westfalia, Germany
Offer: Mint/used Great Britain, British Commonwealth and West
Europe Want: Great Britain, British Commenwealth, especially
Australia, New
Zealand, Hong Kong, Singapore, Malaysia, Sri Lanka, Canada &
Mauritius - West Europe, US and South Africa Note: I'd like to
swap on a 1:1 basis, or by matual agreement. Societies: Royal
philatelic Society of Great Britain and Deutsche
Philatelisten Bund,Germany.
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Moraes, Leandro Bianco de leandr...@hotmail.com Location:
Limeira, Brazil
Offer: Brazil {1970s thru 1990s}, Germany, US, Spain and Japan
Want: Worldwide - WW TOPICAL: Butterflies
Note: I'd like to trade on a 1:1 basis, in packets of 50 stamps
in
very good condition. Write to me in English or Portuguese.
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Nabil, Sibai nabil...@wanadoo.fr Location: Tarnos, France
Offer: Pre-1920 France, Great Britain, Germany, Belgium, Sweden,
Norway and most nations of Europe...singles and Covers Want: Pre-
1920 Spain, Spanish colonies, Portuguese colonies and
British colonies of Africa...singles and Covers Note: I have no
interest in items issued after 1920.
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Pandya, Mihir P. mihirpa...@yahoo.com Location: Vadodara,
India
Offer: Mint/used India singles, Postal Stationery and new issues
Want: Worldwide TOPICAL: Wood...singles, sets, Postal
Stationery,
Post Marks & Meter Frankings related to my thematic interest
Note: I am developing a thematic vision of India and wood. I'm
interested in any exchanges relative to my topics. Societies:
Baroda Philatelic Society
WWW-Page: http://www.geocities.com/prashant_pandya/mihir.html
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Perez, David M. PIEDAD...@teleline.es Location: Madrid,
Spain
Offer: Mint/used Spain
Want: Mint/used France, US, Great Britain, Canada & South
America
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Perkogan, Itzhak perk...@netvision.net.il Location: Haifa,
Israel
Offer: Mint/used Israel singles, covers, FDCs and Postal
Stationery
TOPICALS: Marine Life, Antarctic, Polar, Trains, Mammals,
Birds, Insects & Space, singles, FDCs, Postal Stationery,
cancellations and space covers
Want: Mint TOPICALS: Jules Verne, Marine Life, Sea Flora &
Fauna,
Sea Explorers, Ships, Polar, Arctic, Antarctic, pre-1900 Naval
Battles, Pirates, Underwater Scenes, Shipwrecks, Meteorology
and Astronomy
Note: I hope to find good correspondents and traders here.
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Rao, Narayana yvj_...@yahoo.com Location: Mangalore, Karnataka,
India
Offer: India Post Independence Blocks of Four Want: India Post
Independence Blocks of Four
Societies: dakshina kannada philatelic association WWW-Page:
http://www.geocities.com/dakshina_kan_pa/
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Reister, Michael mdbre...@hotmail.com Location: Canyon Lake,
California, USA
Offer: Mint/used US {from 1930 to 2000} & Worldwide Want: Mint
pre-1976 British Europe & British America, Pre-1944 MNH
Poland and mint Frech Africa...pre-independence
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Riley, Jesse Rack...@SmartOne.co.uk Location: England, UK
Offer: Mint/used Great Britain
Want: Pre-1950 British Commonwealth and FDCs & commemorative
covers Note: I would be interested in on paper collections or
lots too.
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Rodriguez Mayo, Carmen rod...@arrakis.es Location: Galicia,
Spain
Offer: Worldwide, especially Spain, Canada, Australia, US,
Denmark,
Scandinavia and WW mixtures
Want: Used Worldwide, and/or your country, especially
Netherlands,
Denmark, Scandinavia, Brazil, US, Great Britain, Australia,
Canada, France, Germany and Ireland
Note: I'd like to trade on a 1:1 basis, in packets of 100 or
200,
all different. Worldwide mixes are fine too.
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Salek, Miroslav msa...@tosvarnsdorf.cz Location: Czech Republic
Offer: Mint/used Czechoslovakia and Czech Republic Want:
Worldwide
Note: I'd like to trade 1:1, in packets of 50-100 stamps.
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ENTRY************
Santerre, Frederic frederic...@yahoo.fr Location:
Wasquehal, France
Offer: France and Belgium
Want: WW TOPICAL: Cichlids {fish}
WWW-Page: http://cichlidtimbr.ifrance.com
***************************************************NEW
ENTRY************
Santerre, Ronald keepe...@yahoo.com Location: Montreal,
Quebec, Canada
Offer: Canada singles and FDCs...older and newer issues Want:
France & Australia new and recent FDCs
***************************************************NEW
ENTRY************
Sclanders, Graham L.R. clan...@mweb.co.za Location: Winterton,
Kwa-Zulu, Natal, South Africa Offer: Belgium, Indonesia,
Portugal, Australia, South West Africa,
South Africa, and former colonies, Rhodesia and Basutoland Want:
Mostly Southern African States, Zululand & former colonies Note:
I'm quite flexible and will welcome hearing from you. Societies:
SAPA and Pietermaritzburg Philatelic Society
***************************************************NEW
ENTRY************
Sefton, Rob rse...@saol.com Location: South Africa
Offer: Used South Africa, South West Africa, Zimbabwe, Rhodesia
and
Transkie
Want: TOPICALS: Orchids and Roses - British Commonwealth and
Worldwide in that order of priority
Note: I'll trade mint stamps for stamps with Orchids and roses.
Please email me the e-mail and postal address of your nation's
Philatelic Bureau. Thank You!
***************************************************NEW
ENTRY************
Shanbagh, Vittaldas yvj_...@yahoo.com Location: Udipi,
Karnataka, India
Offer: TOPICALS: Airmail and Aircraft - Perfins Want: TOPICALS:
Airmail and Aircraft - Perfins
Societies: dakshina kannada philatelic association WWW-Page:
http://www.geocities.com/dakshina_kan_pa/
***************************************************NEW
ENTRY************
Stanford, John js...@jstan.eurobell.co.uk Location: Devon,
England, UK
Offer: Mint/used Great Britain, Australia, Germany and Worldwide
singles, Covers & other philatelic odds and ends Want: Used
Australia, Canada, US, Germany & Austria - mint/used
Falklands & dependencies, South Georgia, Ascension, British
Antarctic Territory, St. Helena and Belize Note: I'll be happy
to work with Wantlists.
***************************************************NEW
ENTRY************
Stor, Ruben norb...@sinectis.com.ar Location: Buenos Aires,
Argentina
Offer: Mint South America, especially Argentina Want: Mint WW
TOPICAL: Fauna
Note: I'd like to trade on a Scott or Yvert catalogue value
basis.
***************************************************NEW
ENTRY************
Swain, Pragati pragat...@yahoo.com Location: Cuttack, Orissa,
India
Offer: Used India, both before & after independence, & some
Worldwide Want: Worldwide, especially small and island nations
and British,
French and Australian Antarctic Territories Note: My list of
specific countries is much too lengthy to spell out
here. I'll welcome hearing from you, and will be happy to
send you my list of countries. I'd like to trade on a 1:1
basis, in packets of 100. I'll respond promptly to e-mails.
Societies: Kalinga Philatelic Society, Cuttack,Orissa,India.
***************************************************NEW
ENTRY************
Thomas, Joe jtd...@altavista.com Location: Modesto, California,
USA
Offer: Used US, UN, Japan, Germany, Vatican and Canada - I have
some
mint Vatican and Japan too
Want: Used UN {last 6 years}, Ireland, Canada, Portugal & Azores
Note: I prefer to trade on a catalogue value basis for undamaged
stamps. I also dabble in US coins.
***************************************************NEW
ENTRY************
Turner, Bill btu...@sprintmail.com Location: North Carolina,
USA
Offer: Used & some mint US, a few FDCs, Plate Plocks some {BOB}
back
of book and some odds and ends
Want: Mint/used US, mostly used pre-1924 and mint US since 1983
Note: A friendly trader. I use the Scott Catalogue. Trades by
mutual
agreement. I prefer using Wantlists and trading small lots.
***************************************************NEW
ENTRY************
Van der Geest, Bert bertvan...@planet.nl Location:
Hellevoetsluis, The Netherlands
Offer: Netherlands, West Europe, Australia, New Zealand, US,
Canada,
South Africa, Malaysia, Singapore and Worldwide Want:
Netherlands, West Europe, Australia, New Zealand, US, Canada,
South Africa, Malaysia and Singapore
Note: I'd like to exchange in packets of 50, 75, 100 or more.
***************************************************NEW
ENTRY************
van Ooijen, Gerard ger...@gntex.nl Location: Oisterwijk, The
Netherlands
Offer: Worldwide
Want: Worldwide
Note: I've been an active collector for some 40 years. I'd like
to
swap on a 1:1 basis, 75 to 100 stamps at a time. WWW-Page:
http://gjvo.tripod.com
***************************************************NEW
ENTRY************
Vazquez G., Maria vaz...@correomix.com Location: Galicia, Spain
Offer: Used Spain, Portugal, France, Italy, Germany, Canada, US,
Brazil, Australia, Japan, Israel and Argentina Want: Mint/used
Scandinavia
Note: I prefer trading 1:1, in packets of 100 or 200 stamps.
***************************************************NEW
ENTRY************
Vos, Ton tv...@freeler.nl Location: The Netherlands
Offer: Used Netherlands and Europe
Want: Used Worldwide
***************************************************NEW
ENTRY************
Weiss, Bernie je...@labyrinth.net.au Location: Melbourne,
Victoria, Australia
Offer: Australia
Want: Ireland, Hungary, Poland, Great Britain and Czechoslovakia
Note: I'm especially interested in Ireland. Trades by agreement.
***************************************************NEW
ENTRY************
Whistler, David Dwhi...@hotmail.com Location: Vancouver,
British Columbia, Canada
Offer: Mint/used Canada singles, plate blocks and some FDC's
Want: Mint Canada singles & plate blocks UL - Newfoundland back
of
book {BOB} items - WW TOPICAL: Whistler Note: I'd like to trade
on a Unitrade {Scott numbers} value basis.
I can make Havelists and Wantlists available upon request.
***************************************************NEW
ENTRY************
Wolcott, Jerry jerr...@aol.com Location: Costa Mesa,
California, USA
Offer: Used Belgium, Germany, Sweden & Poland..old & many new
issues Want: Used pre-1986 Belgium, Germany, Sweden,
Czechoslovakia and
Poland...no CTOs please
Note: I prefer to trade by wantlists, using Scott numbers.
Societies: APS 182987
***************************************************NEW
ENTRY************
Yudovich, Boris kere...@netvision.net.il Location: Jerusalem,
Israel
Offer: Israel
Want: Worldwide
Societies: Israeli philately circuit
***************************************************NEW
ENTRY************
Zarubin, Eugenu zars...@inbox.ru Location: Vladivostok, Russia
Offer: Mint Russia
Want: Mint WW TOPICALS: Fauna, Birds, Fish & insects in full
sets Note: I'm a serious collector and will answer to all e-
mails.
***************************************************NEW
ENTRY************
Zhou, Lei stam...@263.net Location: Wei Hai City, Shandong, PR
China
Offer: Mint/used China singles, miniature sheets, souvenir
sheets and
Covers - Some USSR, Hong Kong, Taiwan and other Asian nations
Want: Worldwide souvenir sheets, miniature sheets, covers and
maxi
cards - Mint/used TOPICALS: WWF, Painting, Love Day, Planes,
National Flags, Flowers, Butterflies, Buddhism & Enviromental
Protection - Mint Worldwide stamps issued in 2000 Note: I'd like
to exchange on a 1:1 basis or by mutual agreement.
***************************************************NEW
ENTRY************
Zweifel, Heinrich M. hmzw...@dplanet.ch Location: Switzerland
Offer: Used Switzerland {classics to modern}, Germany, France,
Italy,
Austria, Spain, Greece, Belgium, Netherlands, Scandinavia, PR
China, Japan and African nations
Want: Used PR China, Thailand, Indonesia, Vietnam, Papua New
Guinea,
Christmas Is., Cocos Is., Colombia, Ecuador, Morocco, Algeria,
Chile, Peru, Tunisia, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Kuwait, Kenya,
South Africa, Namibia, Zimbabwe, Malawi and Botswana Note:
Interested in 1:1 exchange of used commemoratives AFTER 1980.
Better values and classical stamps according to Wantlists on
a Michel catalogue value basis.
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Stephen G. Esrati
when I sign myself with a plug for my book (which was reviewed in Linn's and
Stamp Collector, precisely because I am a philatelic writer), I'm told that
this is taboo on rcs.discuss.
I still regret the split of the newsgroups and point to the fact that in the
years since then, there has been not one serious article posted here. Back in
the good old days, Ken Lawrence ran a magnificent research paper on Penny
Blacks and also wrote about many other things. I reprinted several of my "Stamp
and Politics" articles. But now, Stephen Suffet seems to be the last person to
post serious stuff here.
Is this, then, to become a place solely for people who want to ask beginner's
questions? "What is gum?" "What's a precancel?" "Why can't I collect Green
Stamps?"
Darn you, Greg Deeter, for your blatant bribery that caused the first vote to
be overturned.
albumen wrote:
--
Stephen G. Esrati
Author of COMRADES, AVENGE US, the gripping page-turner about a hunt by GI
victims for the Nazi war criminals who mutilated them for life. It is available
from me for $7.50, postpaid.
Read about the book at:
http://members.tripod.com/~ShibaHill/comrade.html
PO Box 20130
Shaker Heights, OH 44120
(216) 561-9393
Douglas MYALL
albumen <albumen...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in article
<04ab3b8f...@usw-ex0105-036.remarq.com>...
>
and
Stephen G. Esrati
Both of you reproduced all 900+ lines of this list; two fingers to both of
you. It is bad enough having to pay to download this stuff without having
to do it three times thanks to thoughtless people like you. Personally, I
feel that this Stamp *Trader* List should not appear in this NG at all,
but I have been told very firmly that that is how members at the time of
the split wanted it. No doubt, the fact that they did not have to pay for
download time influenced that decision. And it seems that no review of it
will be possible?
Douglas Myall
Kaleb S. KEITHLEY
>
> This is what I've been bellyaching about. I am a known philatelic writer. So
> when I sign myself with a plug for my book (which was reviewed in Linn's and
> Stamp Collector, precisely because I am a philatelic writer), I'm told that
> this is taboo on rcs.discuss.
> I still regret the split of the newsgroups and point to the fact that in the
> years since then, there has been not one serious article posted here. Back in
> the good old days, Ken Lawrence ran a magnificent research paper on Penny
> Blacks and also wrote about many other things. I reprinted several of my "Stamp
> and Politics" articles. But now, Stephen Suffet seems to be the last person to
> post serious stuff here.
Well, you're a known philatelic writer. Why aren't you posting more?
> Is this, then, to become a place solely for people who want to ask beginner's
> questions? "What is gum?" "What's a precancel?" "Why can't I collect Green
> Stamps?"
I guess so, especially when you consider that people like Lloyd DeVries,
who campaigned for his Director at Large post in the APS promising that
he'd do more to promote Philately on the Internet. Well, Lloyd, where
are you? The only time we see you is when you're trying to lure people
to your Delphi chat room.
> Darn you, Greg Deeter, for your blatant bribery that caused the first vote to
> be overturned.
And darn him for having been such an arrogant jerk and flooding the
group with his ads -- in violation of the then charter and people's
complaints -- in the first place. And Rhea and Burrows of StampAuctions
before him, and everyone else like them who decided that they were going
to make their millions on the Internet and no stinking newsgroup charter
was going to stand in their way. They could have created a .marketplace
group too, but they all chose not to. And what's the world coming to
when we can't live by the results of a clean, fair, democratic election?
I don't know who's giving you such a hard time about what's in your
signature -- some people have nothing better to do with their time I
guess -- I'd ignore it.
--
Kaleb
Kaleb S. KEITHLEY
>
> Personally, I
> feel that this Stamp *Trader* List should not appear in this NG at all,
> but I have been told very firmly that that is how members at the time of
> the split wanted it.
I believe that's called Tyranny of the Majority.
> No doubt, the fact that they did not have to pay for
> download time influenced that decision.
That and the aliens spaceship behind the comet, the Face on Mars,
Pyramid Power, and the Lost City of Atlantis were all contributing
factors. :-)
> And it seems that no review of it
> will be possible?
Seems to me like it's being revisited now, but I could be wrong.
If you expect to register your complaint and have it changed, just
because you complained, it doesn't work like that. Hopefully by now
there are enough people familiar with the process that someone (besides
me) will volunteer. Or if you feel that strongly about it then you could
do it!
You could have a non-binding vote and suggest to Phil Guptil that he
should consider abiding by the results. If you want to run a real vote I
suspect you could get the Usenet Volunteer Votetakers (UVV) to collect
and count the votes.
--
Kaleb
albumen
it was that long.
This I'd seen a number of times already. Nobody apparantly was
answering the post, and so under the pretext that if it looks
like a duck, walks like a duck, &etc. then I'd dutifully bring
it to your attention.
Now, it looks as if you'all have considered this issue before,
so there doesn't appear to be much cause for further comment
from me.
Again, my apoligies. I otherwise think you are doing a fine job
with this newsgroup.
-a
J. A. Mc.
tweaked a mouse's tail to post:
>I don't know who's giving you such a hard time about what's in your
>signature -- some people have nothing better to do with their time I
>guess -- I'd ignore it.
Hmmm ... are you now saying we _should_ ignore the charter?
Before you answer - compare S.G.E.'s sig block with the charter
requirements about sig blocks - then include the fact that it
constitutes a direct offer to sell.
NO - I'm not the one who complained, in fact I've made two positive
suggestions as to how S.G.E. _can_ comply with the charter AND still
promote his book - though a bit less obviously.
Sometimes a little less is more ... in the long run.
Kaleb S. KEITHLEY
>
> On 02 May 2000 14:35:22 EDT, "Kaleb S. KEITHLEY" <ka...@ics.com>
> tweaked a mouse's tail to post:
>
> >I don't know who's giving you such a hard time about what's in your
> >signature -- some people have nothing better to do with their time I
> >guess -- I'd ignore it.
>
> Hmmm ... are you now saying we _should_ ignore the charter?
Nope. I'm saying that if we can all be reasonable -- a little bit
tolerant -- a little understanding -- then we can all get along.
Esrati's signature plugs his non-philatelic book. I don't find it
offensive or in violation of the charter; but that's just my opinion.
He's not spamming the group, his posts are otherwise on-topic, and
usually interesting. Why can't people leave the poor guy's signature
alone?
Can't we talk about philately??? Please?
--
Kaleb
Douglas MYALL
for your helpful suggestions on how to go about it. I do not feel strongly
enough about the inappropriateness of such a posting to a discussion group
to take off from writing about stamps to do anything about it. My
complaint was not about the regular appearance of this posting but about
it appearing three times in rapid succession, something which your
response did not address.
Douglas
Kaleb S. KEITHLEY <ka...@ics.com> wrote in article
<390F232E...@ics.com>...
Kaleb S. KEITHLEY
>
> Thanks Kaleb for making it clear that the charter is open to change and
> for your helpful suggestions on how to go about it. I do not feel strongly
> enough about the inappropriateness of such a posting to a discussion group
> to take off from writing about stamps to do anything about it. My
> complaint was not about the regular appearance of this posting but about
> it appearing three times in rapid succession, something which your
> response did not address.
What would you have liked me to say about it? That two people carelessly
included it in their reply? We already knew that. Did you want me to go
out and spank them for you? :-)
As far as not paying for even the first download, I recommend you
consider different news reading software. E.g. Netscape only downloads
the headers, i.e. the Subject: lines and the Author's name, and you can
easily avoid downloading parts or all of the STL by not clicking on the
article.
If using Netscape isn't practical I suggest you talk to the friendly
support people at your ISP and see if they can't come up with a better
newsreader for you.
--
Kaleb
J. A. Mc.
tweaked a mouse's tail to post:
>"J. A. Mc." wrote:
>>
>> On 02 May 2000 14:35:22 EDT, "Kaleb S. KEITHLEY" <ka...@ics.com>
>> tweaked a mouse's tail to post:
>>
>> >I don't know who's giving you such a hard time about what's in your
>> >signature -- some people have nothing better to do with their time I
>> >guess -- I'd ignore it.
>>
>> Hmmm ... are you now saying we _should_ ignore the charter?
>
>Nope. I'm saying that if we can all be reasonable -- a little bit
>tolerant -- a little understanding -- then we can all get along.
>
>Esrati's signature plugs his non-philatelic book. I don't find it
>offensive or in violation of the charter; but that's just my opinion.
Your opinion doesn't seem to me to fit with the Charter you mostly
wrote ... the Charter says:
The following are prohibited: - A signature in excess of 250 bytes if
that signature promotes a commercial enterprise.
>He's not spamming the group, his posts are otherwise on-topic, and
>usually interesting. Why can't people leave the poor guy's signature
>alone?
>
So ... now if S.G.E.'s is OK ... then you think it'll be OK if _my_
sig block will soon read:
John McCulloch
Supplier of Stamps of Great Britain
All reigns - pre-decimal issues
Specializing in the Line Engraved Issues
Penny Blacks, Reds and Tuppenny Blues
Items from $0.35 to $1,000+
Come visit at - http://www.somewebsite.com
Special of the week is SG:399 - Scott:179
Mint, VLH - $85.00
????
Tracy Barber
wrote:
>As far as not paying for even the first download, I recommend you
>consider different news reading software. E.g. Netscape only downloads
>the headers, i.e. the Subject: lines and the Author's name, and you can
>easily avoid downloading parts or all of the STL by not clicking on the
>article.
Free Agent does the same thing. It only downloads the headers until
you select them. So, there are a few alternatives to the long
download problem. :)
Tracy Barber
****************************************************
MicroComputer Consultant - tr...@global2000.net
****************************************************
Kaleb S. KEITHLEY
>
> Your opinion doesn't seem to me to fit with the Charter you mostly
> wrote ... the Charter says:
>
For the record, I wrote the .marketplace charter and David Ross wrote
the .discuss charter.
--
Kaleb
Dave Joll
>On 02 May 2000 17:12:14 EDT, "Kaleb S. KEITHLEY" <ka...@ics.com>
>>Nope. I'm saying that if we can all be reasonable -- a little bit
>>tolerant -- a little understanding -- then we can all get along.
>>Esrati's signature plugs his non-philatelic book. I don't find it
>>offensive or in violation of the charter; but that's just my opinion.
>Your opinion doesn't seem to me to fit with the Charter you mostly
>wrote ... the Charter says:
>The following are prohibited: - A signature in excess of 250 bytes if
>that signature promotes a commercial enterprise.
250 bytes. I generally think of a byte as being roughly equivalent
to one character. Having just roughly totalled up the most recent
version of Esrati's signature, it contains about 180 bytes, and thus
is not prohibited by the clause stated.
>So ... now if S.G.E.'s is OK ... then you think it'll be OK if _my_
>sig block will soon read:
[snip]
Over 250 bytes. Sorry... :-)
I personally think quibbling about sig length is a bit pettifogging...
Esrati's posts are generally informative and philatelic. In this
case I would consider it better to live and let live.
Douglas MYALL
<3910079F...@ics.com>...
> Douglas MYALL wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Kaleb for making it clear that the charter is open to change
and
> > for your helpful suggestions on how to go about it. I do not feel
strongly
> > enough about the inappropriateness of such a posting to a discussion
group
> > to take off from writing about stamps to do anything about it. My
> > complaint was not about the regular appearance of this posting but
about
> > it appearing three times in rapid succession, something which your
> > response did not address.
>
> What would you have liked me to say about it? That two people carelessly
> included it in their reply? We already knew that. Did you want me to go
> out and spank them for you? :-)
>
made irrespective of the content of the lengthy re-posting and since you
specifically chose my posting to comment on I would have expected to learn
what your view of it was. Then, not in a further posting. You wonder
whether I want you to go out and spank them. This hadn't occurred to me.
Can you really do that?
Douglas
J. A. Mc.
tweaked a mouse's tail to post:
>"J. A. Mc." wrote:
>>
>> Your opinion doesn't seem to me to fit with the Charter you mostly
>> wrote ... the Charter says:
>>
>
>For the record, I wrote the .marketplace charter and David Ross wrote
>the .discuss charter.
An excellent 'Clintonian' answer ! Thanks.
Kaleb S. KEITHLEY
came out:
Whatever a "'Clintonian' answer" might be. Is it better or worse than an
'Orwellian' answer?
--
Kaleb
J. A. Mc.
tweaked a mouse's tail to post:
>"J. A. Mc." tapped his fingers on a computer keyboard and this is what
>came out:
>>
>> On 03 May 2000 18:56:52 EDT, "Kaleb S. KEITHLEY" <ka...@ics.com>
>> tweaked a mouse's tail to post:
>>
>> >"J. A. Mc." wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Your opinion doesn't seem to me to fit with the Charter you mostly
>> >> wrote ... the Charter says:
>> >>
>> >
>> >For the record, I wrote the .marketplace charter and David Ross wrote
>> >the .discuss charter.
>>
>> An excellent 'Clintonian' answer ! Thanks.
>
>Whatever a "'Clintonian' answer" might be. Is it better or worse than an
>'Orwellian' answer?
A "Clintonian answer" is to pick a point of minutiae upon which to
comment, rather than answer the primary question.
I'd still appreciate your opinion of the equality of my 'proposed' (no
- I'm NOT going to actually use it unless this 'form' of advertising
gets accepted) sig block vs. S.G.E's.
Peter D
>This is what I've been bellyaching about. I am a known philatelic
writer. So when I sign myself with a plug for my book (which was
reviewed in Linn's and Stamp Collector, precisely because I am a
philatelic writer), I'm told that this is taboo on rcs.discuss.
Dear Stephen,
Your sig is not "taboo". The *length* of your sig may be "excessive".
I understand that Usenet convention limits sigs to 4 lines of no more
than 72 characters per line, the character unused on a line not being
accumulated for other lines. Your sig is 11 lines including the two
blank lines. I think that goes beyond even the 'spirit' of the law.
Of course, you could rework your sig within quite reasonable
guidelines. But then what would you have to gripe about? <vbg>
>I still regret the split of the newsgroups and point to the fact that
in the years since then, there has been not one serious article posted
here.
You do know this is balatantly false, don't you? I mean, you really
don't want people to produce deja-news searches for post-bifurcation
postings do you?
---------
Peter D
<honking big snip>
Peter D
>
>albumen
>and
>Stephen G. Esrati
>
>Both of you reproduced all 900+ lines of this list; two fingers to
both of you. It is bad enough having to pay to download this stuff
without having to do it three times thanks to thoughtless people like
you.
A very reasonable complaint. They should have snipped the replies. The
length was excessive and well beyond any reasonable guidelines.
>feel that this Stamp *Trader* List should not appear in this NG at
all but I have been told very firmly that that is how members at the
time of the split wanted it. No doubt, the fact that they did not have
to pay for download time influenced that decision. And it seems that
no review of it will be possible?
Though I understand your frustration, Doug, that's an unfair
observation. I was there at the time, and I and others started a
discussion about this very subject. Our primary concern was the cost
to those who had to pay for time and/or had slow modems/access (neve
ran issue for me). It was discussed for quite a long time, with lots
of ideas and suggestions, but the final conclusion was that the
benefit of the list to the whole outweighed the risk of additional
costs to the few. Not that we didn't care, but that we anticipated
that as the list grew, access and speed would grow and cost would go
down.
Should we change? Well, it has been a long time, and maybe the nature
of the situation has changed. You could start a "Call for discussion"
thread, asking people for their opinions. I don't think anyone would
mind. In fact, I think it's healthy.
Phil's pretty good about 'listening'. I think if the majority of
people wanted the list to be presented in a different way or via a
different vehicle, and it was feasible, Phil would look at it. I've
always found Phil to be a very fair-minded person. But, let's not
forget that he does this for free, so any proposed changes maybe
should come with an offer to also help/get involved. For example, I
could suggest he use a web-hosting service with an online database,
but I think I shoudl be ready to donate the space/site and/or the
software/programming.
In the meantime here's a few solutions:
1) Set your newsreader to download "Headers only" and filter Phil or
the STL. That way you'll never have to download more than the headers.
Don't want to do that? Look out for Phil's announcement that he's
going to publish the list and then set "headers only" for that week.
HTH
------
Peter D
Peter D
good for the gander'..... Nah, don't want to go there. :-)
I dropped my "Consulting" sig a long, long time ago, even dropped my
last name to an initial because of the whining about it being
'commercial' (my last name is the first name of my company so easy to
connect the dots, eh?). No that I hide what I do. I've always given
freely of my oand expertise in computers along with my limited same in
philately. I've never charged anyone here for my time/energy anyway,
but it makes for peace. <sigh>
I think the 250 character (bytes) restriction is OK. I prefer the
convention of four lines, max 72 characters per, no carrying over. I
think that no-one gets bent out of shape about minor infractions. I
think Stephen should significantly reduce his sig length. I don't
think he will unless he decides to. I think the newsgroup will survive
regardless of sig lengths. I think we should care enough to keep a
balance. And I think you do. :-)
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Peter D
J. A. Mc. wrote
>On 02 May 2000 17:12:14 EDT, "Kaleb S. KEITHLEY" <ka...@ics.com>
>tweaked a mouse's tail to post:
>
>>"J. A. Mc." wrote:
>>>
>>> On 02 May 2000 14:35:22 EDT, "Kaleb S. KEITHLEY" <ka...@ics.com>
>>> tweaked a mouse's tail to post:
>>>
>>> >I don't know who's giving you such a hard time about what's in
your
>>> >signature -- some people have nothing better to do with their
time I
>>> >guess -- I'd ignore it.
>>>
>>> Hmmm ... are you now saying we _should_ ignore the charter?
>>
>>Nope. I'm saying that if we can all be reasonable -- a little bit
>>tolerant -- a little understanding -- then we can all get along.
>>
>>Esrati's signature plugs his non-philatelic book. I don't find it
>>offensive or in violation of the charter; but that's just my
opinion.
>
>Your opinion doesn't seem to me to fit with the Charter you mostly
>wrote ... the Charter says:
>
>The following are prohibited: - A signature in excess of 250 bytes if
>that signature promotes a commercial enterprise.
>
>>He's not spamming the group, his posts are otherwise on-topic, and
>>usually interesting. Why can't people leave the poor guy's signature
>>alone?
>>
>
>So ... now if S.G.E.'s is OK ... then you think it'll be OK if _my_
>sig block will soon read:
>
Jon Bell
hsarrazin
>could suggest he use a web-hosting service with an online database,
>but I think I shoudl be ready to donate the space/site and/or the
>software/programming.
>
I use it regularly, that's why now, I just killfile is regular updates, so
they wont download...
It works fine...
Helene