Album pages in polypropylene sheets?

[Keith (Dorset)]

Dear collectors,

I have been thinking of 'binding' some of my less important pages - which
are printed on acid free, 160gsm, card - in (ring-binder-holed)
polypropylene sleeves. OK, Not the most aesthetic option, but convenient for
some selections!

Most of these pages will have unmounted, hinged stamps. Could any damage
possibly occur as a result of the stamps coming into contact with the
polypropylene / plastic?

NB I notice that 'Mr Gibbons' includes the following expression when
advertising 'his' country albums:

'.....The pages are presented back to back and, for extra protection, are
safely enclosed in clear polypropylene A4 sleeves....'

This would appear to infer that it is the pages that are 'protected' - not
necessarily the stamps?

Any comments would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Have a good weekend.

Keith

[John DeBoo]

Keith (Dorset) wrote:
> Dear collectors,
>
> I have been thinking of 'binding' some of my less important pages - which
> are printed on acid free, 160gsm, card - in (ring-binder-holed)
> polypropylene sleeves. OK, Not the most aesthetic option, but convenient for
> some selections!
>
> Most of these pages will have unmounted, hinged stamps. Could any damage
> possibly occur as a result of the stamps coming into contact with the
> polypropylene / plastic?

As long as the page protectors are acid free archival quality (as most
are) there should not be a problem. That's how I do my album pages,
hinged or mounted, back to back in a page protecrtor.
John

[Dave W.]

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I do that as well

[Ralphael1]

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Me too. Only way to go. No finger smudges on the pages when leafing
through the album. No stamps knocked loose and above all no lost
stamps.

Ralphael, the OLD one

[Rod]

My personal opinion, is that it is a bit of a lottery
on just how one stores one's collection.

For example, the best archival polypropylene sleeves, may
be well and good, but if the album page is non-archival,
then the archival sleeve can trap the pollutants from the page
and hasten detiororation.
The sleeve traps the pollutants, and they will not be able to diffuse away.

Secondly, one only has to see the effect of a Hagner sheet, with mylar
flaps, how they so easily scratch, when sliding the page in and
out of a polypropylene sleeve.
If you intend sliding a mounted page in and out of the sleeve, then
any stamps contacting the sleeve will suffer abrasion as well.

Basically, I would do the Beilstein test on the sleeve, and if
OK would consider the method of page mounting.

Polypropylene is considered "relatively stable" by the Western
Australian National Archives, with Caveat emptor.

HTH

safe

"John DeBoo" <jsd...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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[Albumen]

ditto.
Covers and cards in particular scratch the sheet protectors and vice versa.

I mount everything on white acid-free bond, using a sheet of archival mylar
to cover and protect the stamps before inserting into sheet protector.

I design my own pages using Adobe Pagemaker. These are printed on one of my
laser printers here in the shop. I'm on album 3 of 9 (and that's just 19th
Century).

On preliminary pages I have stamps mounted on small slips of archival card
stock. The slips have just enough room for the stamp and space below for the
write-up. This is similar to the old method of organizing a collection for
exhibit. The cards can be moved around the page, or from page to page,
without having to remount the stamp. Once again, archival mylar is used to
cover and protect the stamps while they're in sheet protectors. Covers are
mounted directly to the pages, or held loose until final mounting.

When preparing to do an album scan all the preliminary pages as well as
relavent stock pages. The scans are cropped and organized within Pagemaker
to give a working picture of every item in black and white. These images are
delteted just before printing the pages. Certain things like pictures,
charts, and maps can be inserted digitally.

If you want to save money on stamp collecting, start designing your own
pages. You won't have much time left over for collecting. A mounted stamp
collection is also great for local stamp shows.

-a

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[Keith (Dorset)]

Hi and very many thanks,

I would love to see more information on presentation like this.

Can I please ask a few questions....

Please can you suggest a source for Mylar archival sheets?

Also, what sheet protectors are available. Do you use ones marketed for
stamp 'album' use, or something else?

How do you bind your finished pages with protectors? Are they ring-bound. If
so what is the most aesthetic binders you have seen?

PS I too design my own pages (in Photoshop) - and print on A4 sized, white
archival, 160gsm card.

Best wishes,

Keith

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[John DeBoo]

Keith (Dorset) wrote:
> Also, what sheet protectors are available. Do you use ones marketed for
> stamp 'album' use, or something else?
>

You can purchase them in any office supply store. I was buying mine at
Staple's but they raised the price considerably so I now go to Sam's
Club and get them there. They come in various thicknesses so you'll
want to feel them and see what is right for you. Personally, I use the
thin ones - medium weight, 2.4mil. Just be sure they say archival
quality and acid free. These are US stores so I don't know what stores
other countries may have but I'm sure everyone has has office supply
stores around.

> How do you bind your finished pages with protectors? Are they ring-bound. If
> so what is the most aesthetic binders you have seen?
>

The page protectors have a 3-ring binder strip on them which adds to the
overall width but 2ea 8.5x11 sheets fit nicely back to back. You'll not
want to put them into a standard 3-ring binder as the protector sheets
will probably extend an additional 1/2" beyond the cover of the binder.
Look for "Presentation" binders as they are a bit wider and will
completely cover the page protectors. If you don't see presentation
binders, take an empty page protector with you and be sure it will be
covered by the binder covers.

May I also suggest you use D-ring 3-ring binders as opposed to C-ring.
The pages are much easier to turn with the D and do not normally get
bunched up at the back like they do for C rings. Any office supply will
have them too but I again do WalMart or Sam's Club as I use the larger
3" binders. They usually was presentation size on them.

I'm sure all of these items are available in A4 size too so its pretty
much your decision on where you want to spend your money to buy them.

John

[Keith (Dorset)]

Hi John,

Many thanks for your advice.

I have seen (and have some) page protectors here, but have never come across
archival ones except for very expensive ones at Stanley Gibbons. It is very
useful to know that it's possible to get them at general stationers.

Also, I have never considered 'Presentation' binders... only the cheapish
Ring Binders we used as students - many years ago.

So, this has been a great help because, even if the answers may, I suspect,
be obvious to you and others, it has given me a different way of looking at
things, and opened my eyes to what's available out there.

Best wishes from the UK

Keith

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[malcolm]

European readers remember that such binders here are usually 4-ring
not 3 ring.

I mount all my stamps in 4-ring binders. Proper "stamp" ones are
expensive - but "sample books" and instruction manuals issued by
Commercial enterprises are often the same size ( A4 plus the width of
the plastic sleeves) - exactly the same as a 4-ring album sheet. I
find them often in charity shops - and have even rescued some from a
"skip" outside a premises being gutted fro refurbishment!!

They come in a variety of thicknesses too - from 1/2 inch to 3- inch
so there is one to fit the contents of any country or group of
countries.

Also in the UK plastic sleeves are almost always of A4 size so the
oversize leaves used for stamp albums do not fit - you would have to
use A4 paper.

Malcolm

Feb 16, 10:52 am, "Keith \(Dorset\)" <kvpd1NOSPAMM...@btinternet.com>
wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> Many thanks for your advice.
>
> I have seen (and have some) page protectors here, but have never come across
> archival ones except for very expensive ones at Stanley Gibbons. It is very
> useful to know that it's possible to get them at general stationers.
>
> Also, I have never considered 'Presentation' binders... only the cheapish
> Ring Binders we used as students - many years ago.
>
> So, this has been a great help because, even if the answers may, I suspect,
> be obvious to you and others, it has given me a different way of looking at
> things, and opened my eyes to what's available out there.
>
> Best wishes from the UK
>
> Keith
>

> "John DeBoo" <jsde...@comcast.net> wrote in message

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