Curiosity Corner #302: ...overheard in the cockpit.
Rod
.....things you rather not hear.
Kingsford-Smith to Charles Ulm half way across the Atlantic.
"remember to bring your pilot's licence Charlie?"
Ulm replies
"Licence?.........what licence?"
It is a curiosity the Charles Ulm during his trans Atlantic
flight from the US, and his Trans Tasman flight, he had never
held a Pilot's licence.
He sat for it in Christchurch NZ from all accounts, Sept 1928.
http://cjoint.com/data/cCeQuR8W4g.htm
Rod
Please substitute "Atlantic with "Pacific" :(
BTW: can anyone explain how the registration numerals/letters
of aircraft are arrived at?
Ralphael1
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Not a clue Rod.
I hear the GB car tags are a combination of the type car and wher it
was purchased.
Any other strange ways of doing business with identification numbers?
Here in Florida USA speciality plates are the big thing. There are
over 100 types promoting all types of things from Universities to
Chose Life (anti abortion) but none for Pro Choice. Then there are the
personaized plates.
I was always curious about the identifying numbers on rail cars. I
found them listed and wanted to print them out but it was like sixty
pages. I wasn't that interested. Anyone interested in seeing the list
of Florida Speciality Car Tags or rail car number identification can
send me an email and I will respond with link. Useful only here in the
USA.
Ralphael, the OLD one
Rod
> of aircraft are arrived at?
Then here you go Ralph
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_registration
Prefix "N" is for the US
Prefix "G" for the UK. etc
now we know:)
(in the 70's the "Byrds" had a hit song "8 miles high"
which everyone thought was a reference to drugs,
it is actually the height reserved for all miltary aircraft)
Ralphael1
> > BTW: can anyone explain how the registration numerals/letters
> > of aircraft are arrived at?
> >Not a clue Rod.
>
>
> Prefix "N" is for the US
> Prefix "G" for the UK. etc
>
> now we know:)
>
> (in the 70's the "Byrds" had a hit song "8 miles high"
> which everyone thought was a reference to drugs,
> it is actually the height reserved for all miltary aircraft)
WOW, Sir Rodney, you are a wealth of information. Very impressive.
Ralphael, the OLD one
Rod
<Ralphael, the OLD one
Not really, I heard it on the radio this morning. :)
The aircraft rego sorted out the VH on the Kingsford smith plane,
(Australia) yet I thought they had purchased that aircraft in the US
~ quizzical look.
The X on the Lindbergh aircraft was for "experimental."
Kurt de Farquar
> On Feb 27, 11:58�pm, "Rod" <pookiet...@iprimus.com.au> wrote:
>> Please substitute "Atlantic with "Pacific" :(
>>
>> BTW: can anyone explain how the registration numerals/letters
>> of aircraft are arrived at?
>>
>>
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>>> Kingsford-Smith to Charles Ulm half way across the Atlantic.
>>> "remember to bring your pilot's licence Charlie?"- Hide quoted text -
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aircraft registrations are fairly uniform for commercial/civil aviation.
All aircraft have an international prefix such as N for USA, C for Canada,
G- for UK, ZK for New Zealand, etc. Aircraft registrations are requested
by the owner. If the combination is open, it can be granted. Some reserve
blocks of registration numbers for aircraft orders so they can be
registered as they are built. Some registrations are letters only, numbers
only or combination after the country code. Registrations can be used over
and over, but only one aircraft at a time can be registered with a
particular number. Pan American had a Lockheed L-1011 registered N501PA.
As the plane was transferred to United, then Delta, it retained that same
registration till the aircraft was finally retired. Now N501PA is worn by
a Cessna 170. BTW, Lindberg's "Spirit of St Louis" had NYP which stood for
"New York - Paris". Some registrations can be meaningful to the aircraft
owners.
Military aircraft are an exception. USAF serial numbers are codes for
that aircraft (type, year aquired, base/squadron, etc.). Other countries'
militaries have their own systems.
Rod
Thanks for your contribution.
Gazza
> BTW: can anyone explain how the registration numerals/letters
> of aircraft are arrived at?
A search on the Australian register
http://www.casa.gov.au/casadata/regsearch/findairs.asp
for VH-USU comes up with the replica of Southern Cross - so it does not
help with when the original was first registered in Aus.
Ulm's famous plane was an Avro VH-UXX 'Faith in Australia' - a
registration now held by a Cessna 305D - that is a civilian O-1G Bird Dog -
is nothing sacred!
Rod
> A search on the Australian register
> http://www.casa.gov.au/casadata/regsearch/findairs.asp
> for VH-USU comes up with the replica of Southern Cross - so it does not
> help with when the original was first registered in Aus.
>
> Ulm's famous plane was an Avro VH-UXX 'Faith in Australia' - a
> registration now held by a Cessna 305D - that is a civilian O-1G Bird
> is nothing sacred!
G'day Gazza,
I downloaded the *.csv file, (thanks) USU is owned by
"The Famous Australian Aircraft Co"
The lads (K-S Anderson and Ulm) had won 3000 pounds,
from the NSW govt for a round Australia flight (10 days).
They sailed to America, and for 1,500 pounds bought
from the Polar Explorer, Aussie, Hubert Wilkins, a Fokker
monoplane (hence, possibly registered in Aust).
They upgraded the aircraft with 3 Wright Whirlwind motors.
Australians at home did not like the Fokker, (the type used by the
Germans during the war) so the three renamed the craft
"Southern Cross", and finally found an American backer for the flight.
acknowledgement:
from a rather extensive 4 page philatelic journal
on the Airmail pioneers, by a Mr. Peter Collins
"Western Stamp Collector"
malcolm
Canada used to be "CF" before it was "C". Early GB was G-E??? ( for
England?), then at some time it was changed to commence at G-AAAA. For
many years reg letters were issued in strict order, although I think
short-term reservations of "blocks" were permitted, in the same way as
fleet users and dealers could reserve blocks of car reg. - but in
actual fact reg were never issued beyond G-Axxx until the sequence was
almost completed. Now I think you can reserve any unissued reg ( no
doubt on payment of some exhorbitant fee to swell government coffers -
as you can still reserve unissued car numbers from the now obsolete
registration system here ).
Rod
> registration system here ).
car "retro" plates here are $190
car personalised name plates are $738.50
Ralphael1
Blimey, you blokes are getting fat off the plates...ythat is if you
sell any.
Ralphael the OLD on