Chalon Portrait
Rodney
The original Chalon portrait from which the early NZ
issues, amongst others, were designed from.
http://groups.msn.com/Stamps/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=12
Tracy Barber
wrote:
I always have liked that portrait / view of QV. To me, it's the best
of the "heads".
Some of the Oz state's stamps have some really funky looking QV
permutations. Yoiks! (Actually, some of them are downright ug-lee.)
Anyhoo, I'm surprised that more stamps didn't use the Chalon pic as
their stamp design.
Tracy Barber
Victor Manta
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>snip
>
> Anyhoo, I'm surprised that more stamps didn't use the Chalon pic as
> their stamp design.
>
> Tracy Barber
Some essays were produced in 1940 by Perkins Bacon in anticipation of a
stamps exhibition to mark the centenary of the adhesive postal stamps. The
exhibition couldn't take place because of World War II.
The essays can be seen on:
http://www.values.ch/London90.htm
Victor Manta
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Rodney
( I'd be telling a fib, if I didn't really expect someone to post a colour vers,
I was hoping so, :0) I thought it would have been Victor)
What is the significance of the Roman Nose on the Lion?
something very eerie about that image.
Rgds
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Rodney
not the old dowager, one comes accustomed to when one
first starts collecting.
The US Banknote Co did some ugly interpretations too!
Try Nova Scotia 1860
The face is nice but the Crown! (Yoiks!) a bit like the Russian peaked cap
just a little over the top for mine.
Rodney
I always thought <that> symbol of authority had a darker meaning
than was apparent I guess at that time.
Surprising.
Dave Joll
> On Sat, 5 Apr 2003 19:20:29 +0800, "Rodney" <rod...@touch88.com.au>
> >Just an interest post.
> >The original Chalon portrait from which the early NZ
> >issues, amongst others, were designed from.
> >http://groups.msn.com/Stamps/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=12
The whole portrait was on the $1 miniature sheet issued by NZ
in 1988 for the centenary of the RPSNZ.
> Some of the Oz state's stamps have some really funky looking QV
> permutations. Yoiks! (Actually, some of them are downright ug-lee.)
I think the ugliest QV stamp I've ever seen was the NZ 5d
"second sideface" of 1891 or thereabouts.
- Dave
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Rodney
Australia received the Oscar for this <dis> honour
in the 1950 2.5d reproduction of Victoria's first stamp.
QV with the Jimmy Durante nose.
Tracy Barber
Carrigan) wrote:
>Here's a color version: <http://www.jaypex.com/stuff/chalon.jpg>.
Very cool. In here younger days, she was a "looker" !
Tracy Barber
Tracy Barber
wrote:
>I agree, she was snazzy lady at her coronation,
>not the old dowager, one comes accustomed to when one
>first starts collecting.
That's because she never got over ex-hubby. Kind of let herself go,
maybe?
>The US Banknote Co did some ugly interpretations too!
Not as many as the Oz states! tptptptphtthtttt! :^P
>Try Nova Scotia 1860
'K...
>The face is nice but the Crown! (Yoiks!) a bit like the Russian peaked cap
>just a little over the top for mine.
Well, I was talking about the wierdo heads the Oz dudes did back then.
Some bizarre imagery! I take it that it was a way that they could
"get back" at the Empire for tossing them down under?
[ Ooops... better come up with a good one to justify that! ]
Tracy Barber
Tracy Barber
wrote:
>Tracy Barber <Stam...@adirondack-pc.com> wrote
>
>> On Sat, 5 Apr 2003 19:20:29 +0800, "Rodney" <rod...@touch88.com.au>
>
>> >Just an interest post.
>> >The original Chalon portrait from which the early NZ
>> >issues, amongst others, were designed from.
>> >http://groups.msn.com/Stamps/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=12
>
>The whole portrait was on the $1 miniature sheet issued by NZ
>in 1988 for the centenary of the RPSNZ.
Yessum. I do believe I have that one.
>> Some of the Oz state's stamps have some really funky looking QV
>> permutations. Yoiks! (Actually, some of them are downright ug-lee.)
>
>I think the ugliest QV stamp I've ever seen was the NZ 5d
>"second sideface" of 1891 or thereabouts.
Ahh... well, check out some of the Oz states but you're in the
ballpark!
Tracy Barber
Tracy Barber
wrote:
>admittedly fairly grungy, but I would have to disagree,
>Australia received the Oscar for this <dis> honour
>in the 1950 2.5d reproduction of Victoria's first stamp.
>QV with the Jimmy Durante nose.
I'll come up with my rogues gallery representation of the
"poopiest" QVs.
Tracy Barber
TC
wrote:
>Some essays were produced in 1940 by Perkins Bacon in anticipation of a
>stamps exhibition to mark the centenary of the adhesive postal stamps. The
>exhibition couldn't take place because of World War II.
>
>The essays can be seen on:
>http://www.values.ch/London90.htm
>
>Victor Manta
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Victor:
Most interesting. While looking at your page, I noticed
a very drole picture. see:
http://www.values.ch/Magazine/London90/London90-4.jpg
It would appear, from the cancel, that a small flagman
is walking in front of a giant monster baby duck -
to warn others of the impending danger. ;-)
In the early days of automobiles, some places required
flagmen to precede them to warn horse riders that a
dangerous auto (had to go slower than the flagman could walk)
was on its way.
Memories of old Godzilla and King Kong movies. Which I am sure
appeared on somebody's postage stamps.
Blair
TC
wrote:
>........I just noticed also an image of the fasces the robes cover.
Rodney:
The fasces have been used for thousands
of years to symbolize strength through unity.
No dire meaning there.
Like the ancient and peaceful swastika (see
a previous thread here) the fasces only fell
into disrepute when a tyrant adapted it as
his symbol.
Blair
Rodney
I'll post if I find out the India query.
I am about to check the background story on the Fasces
on the web. I had a <apparently> misplaced understanding
of ruling via the rod.
I also thought it was connected to "decimation" the act of
killing every tenth soldier in the event of cowardice in the Roman Legions.
No doubt I have it all pear shaped.
Rgds
BTW I did make a mistake on the Korean stamp also.
what you refer to as the ying and yang sign, I use "eclipsed sun."
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Bob Watson
TC wrote:
>
> Rodney:
>
> The fasces have been used for thousands
> of years to symbolize strength through unity.
> No dire meaning there.
>
> Like the ancient and peaceful swastika (see
> a previous thread here) the fasces only fell
> into disrepute when a tyrant adapted it as
> his symbol.
>
The symbolism of fasces implying "strength through unity" seems so obvious
now you mention it.
However, going back to my Caesar translating schooldays, I vaguely recall
a tale of some uprising in which the participants smuggled their weapons
into the city concealed in bundles of sticks. As I (again vaguely) recall,
the incumbent was overthrown and the new leadership adopted the symbol of
a bundle of sticks with an axe head peeking out.
Could this have been the overthrow of "Tarquin the Proud", 7th king of
Rome? Help me out someone ....!
All the best,
Bob
Garry Law
countries using the portrait.
Any others?
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Bob Watson
Rodney wrote:
>
>.........
> What is the significance of the Roman Nose on the Lion?
> something very eerie about that image.
> Rgds
>
Just guessing here, but could that be a representation of a venerable
ancestor? The most obvious choice would be her uncle, George VI, except
that I understand they were not particularly close and Queen Vic. might
not be too happy about having him in her picture.
All the best,
Bob
TC
wrote:
Bob:
Could you have meant George IV ?
George VI was her great grandson, I believe.
Blair
TC
wrote:
>
>
Bob:
Fasces [Lat.,=bundles], ancient Roman symbol of the regal and later
the magisterial authority. The fasces were cylindrical bundles of
wooden rods, tied tightly together, from which an axe projected; they
were borne by guards, called lictors, before praetors, consuls,
proconsuls, dictators, and emperors.
The fasces, which symbolize unity as well as power, have often been
used as emblems, e.g., on the arms of the French republic and on
American coins. Italian Fascism derived its name and its emblem from
the fasces.
Fasces were rods bound in the form of a bundle, and containing an axe
(securis) in the middle, the iron of which projected from them.
The fasces appear to have been usually made of birch (betulla, Plin.
H.N. xvi.30), but sometimes also of the twigs of the elm (Plaut. Asin.
iii.2.29, ii.3.74). They are said to have been derived from Vetulonia,
a city of Etruria (Sil. Ital. viii.485, compare Liv. i.8). Twelve were
carried before each of the kings by twelve lictors; and on the
expulsion of the Tarquins, one of the consuls was preceded by twelve
lictors with the fasces and secures, and the other by the same number
of lictors with the fasces only, or, according to some accounts, with
crowns round them (Dionys. v.2). But P. Valerius Publicola, who gave
to the people the right of provocatio, ordained that the secures
should be removed from the fasces, and allowed only one of the consuls
to be preceded by the lictors while they were at Rome (Cic. de Rep.
ii.31; Val. Max. iv.1 §1).
Blair
Bob Watson
TC wrote:
>
> Bob:
>
> Could you have meant George IV ?
> George VI was her great grandson, I believe.
>
> Blair
Actually, it was William IV I meant. But I do confuse easily.
All the best,
Bob Watson
Rodney
Indeed, on U.S. Stamps as well.
I just found them on my 1902 Series 10c Brown
SG#313 Webster
(Looks like "Werster" to me, however)