Re: Buyer says he received opened empty padded mailer
Craig 'Lumpy' Lemke
> I just received a message from a buyer that stated that he picked up
> the padded mailer from his mailbox and the package was opened and the
> item was missing...
Since you posted this to the coin group as well as the
eBay group, you must be a coin dealer. If you're an ANA
member, report the scenario to them. They will send
brick boy to do some attitude adjustment.
Lumpy
You Played on Lawrence Welk?
Yes but no blue notes. Just blue hairs.
clamz
"MCA00" <MC...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>I just received a message from a buyer that stated that he picked up the
>padded mailer from his mailbox and the package was opened and the item was
>missing.
Wait, oh yes wait a minute mister postman
Wait, wait mister postman
Mister postman look and see
If there's a coin in your bag for me
oly
> I just received a message from a buyer that stated that he picked up the
> padded mailer from his mailbox and the package was opened and the item was
> feedback. Of course I wouldn't pay to send them an opened empty package and
> risk negative feedback just to scam them out of $15.00. So there are two
> scenarios, either the post office employee stole it or the buyer is making a
> false claim. The delivery confirmation shows delivered, so the insurance
> will not pay. Is there anything else I can do? I don't have any negative
> feedback and would like to keep it that way. Thanks.
>
> http://shop.ebay.com/mca00/m.html
If you don't want negative feedback, refund their money and do it very
quickly.
Otherwise, you will probably eventually have to pay the money anyway,
and you'll also get a negative despite the refund.
oly
PeterD
> I just received a message from a buyer that stated that he picked up the
> padded mailer from his mailbox and the package was opened and the item
> was missing. He's demanding that I make a refund or I will get negative
> feedback. Of course I wouldn't pay to send them an opened empty package
> and risk negative feedback just to scam them out of $15.00. So there are
> two scenarios, either the post office employee stole it or the buyer is
> making a false claim. The delivery confirmation shows delivered, so the
> insurance will not pay. Is there anything else I can do? I don't have
> any negative feedback and would like to keep it that way. Thanks.
>
> http://shop.ebay.com/mca00/m.html
>
>
Refund, apologize, and move on.
Or, fight it and post the results here!
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H. Rechete
>padded mailer from his mailbox and the package was opened and the item was
>missing. He's demanding that I make a refund or I will get negative
>feedback. Of course I wouldn't pay to send them an opened empty package
>and risk negative feedback just to scam them out of $15.00. So there are
>two scenarios, either the post office employee stole it or the buyer is
>making a false claim. The delivery confirmation shows delivered, so the
>insurance will not pay. Is there anything else I can do? I don't have any
>negative feedback and would like to keep it that way. Thanks.
>
> http://shop.ebay.com/mca00/m.html
>
You scum, you just pulled that one on a buyer back in March. But, since
you're a "God" seller, I'm sure you will work a miracle.
PeterD
Always wondered what God sells for... Apparently under a dollar, it seems.
clamz
>
All I have gotten so far are a bunch of
> stpid, vuglar, or mocking
> replies.
It's the stpid ones that really irk me.
By the way, I checked around my mailbox, but didn't see any coins rolling
around. Evidently it didn't fall out here, but I'll keep looking.
clamz
> Why do you think it would have falled out in YOUR mailbox?? That is so
> stupid it is not even
> worth for you to of posted that.
>
Wasn't that why you posted your problem, so we could all be on the lookout
for your coin?
clamz
>
> "H. Rechete" <dont_...@me.net> wrote in message
> news:islifo$4gn$1...@dont-email.me...
>>
>>
>> You scum, you just pulled that one on a buyer back in March. But, since
>> you're a "God" seller, I'm sure you will work a miracle.
>>
> never showed delivered, I refunded
> the buyer in 10 days even before the 30 days had passed before the post
> office paid off on it, but I was still left a neutral.
Bob, Phil and I recently bought a padded envelope that we thought cost 30
cents. We each pitched in 10 cents, but upon checkout, found out it
actually cost 25 cents.
The clerk gave us each a penny back, but after we started fighting about who
would get the other two pennies, the clerk said he would keep peace by
keeping the extra 2 cents in his penny jar
That means my friends and I only spent 9 cents each for the envelope. The
total was thus 27 cents plus the two cents that the clerk kept. (27 + 2 =
29). What happened to the other coin?
Bob
>
> Bob, Phil and I recently bought a padded envelope that we thought cost 30
> cents. We each pitched in 10 cents, but upon checkout, found out it
> actually cost 25 cents.
>
>
>
> The clerk gave us each a penny back, but after we started fighting about who
> would get the other two pennies, the clerk said he would keep peace by
> keeping the extra 2 cents in his penny jar
>
>
>
> That means my friends and I only spent 9 cents each for the envelope. The
> total was thus 27 cents plus the two cents that the clerk kept. (27 + 2 =
> 29). What happened to the other coin?
>
>
MCA00 sold it?
Kris Baker
>
> I am seeking advice about what I should do.
Quit selling stuff that attracts scammers (on either end of the
transaction).
Kris
gogu
>I just received a message from a buyer that stated that he picked up the
>padded mailer from his mailbox and the package was opened and the item was
>missing. He's demanding that I make a refund or I will get negative
>feedback. Of course I wouldn't pay to send them an opened empty package and
>risk negative feedback just to scam them out of $15.00. So there are two
>scenarios, either the post office employee stole it or the buyer is making
>a false claim. The delivery confirmation shows delivered, so the insurance
>will not pay. Is there anything else I can do? I don't have any negative
>feedback and would like to keep it that way. Thanks.
>
> http://shop.ebay.com/mca00/m.html
If he signed the delivery confirmation then he can't say it was opened,
because he would have seen it when he took the envelope in his hands!
Based on that, ***I*** (but this is not an advise to you!!!) would not
refund him and *if* he would leave me a negative I would present this
argument to eBay asking them to remove it!
It has happened in the past, I don't see why not happen again in your
case...
rgrds
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merchandise even though delivery
confirmation shows that it was delivered (and signed for in some
cases)
I ask them if they would like me to contact their local police
department and file a report about the theft of
their mail. Almost always they remember getting it, after all.
Kris Baker
"gogu" <Ruminii_Sug_Pul@la_Greci.com> wrote in message
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>
> If he signed the delivery confirmation then he can't say it was opened,
Delivery confirmation is not signature confirmation.
(snip rest, because it's bullshit at that point)
Craig 'Lumpy' Lemke
> I posted this to the ebay forum and the coin forum because I thought
> BOTH forums would find it
> mutually helpful and informative. All I have gotten so far are a
> bunch of stpid, vuglar, or mocking
> replies.
Doc, my arm hurts when I do this.
Lump
Craig 'Lumpy' Lemke
> ... That is
> so stupid it is not even
> worth for you to of posted that.
You're starting to get the idea.
Lump
Craig 'Lumpy' Lemke
MCA00:
> > I am seeking advice about what I should do.
Kris:
> Quit selling stuff that attracts scammers
Post photos of your weiner on your twitter acct.
Lump
Alex Clayton
I just ran out and checked around my box and can't find it here. When I
take my dogs out for a walk I will check around where the mail guy parks
to fill up his bag. Will get back to you if I find it.
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"I want to live forever," I said.
"Sorry," said the Genie, "I'm not allowed to grant wishes like that!"
"Fine," I said, "then I want to die after Congress gets their heads out
of their a$$e$!"
"You crafty bastard," said the Genie.
Craig 'Lumpy' Lemke
> I have gotten a few claims from buyers that they did not receive the
I'll bet you have!
Lump
gogu
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QED;-)
PeterD
>
> "clamz" <cl...@drunkinclam.com> wrote in message
> news:islnej$6pf$1...@dont-email.me...
>
> I said that insurance will not pay because it
Insurance won't pay not because it shows delivered, but because of other
reasons. Insurance covers damaged and partial lost shipments when only
the packaging arrives, and not the item. But... Since it is becoming
clear you didn't properly pack the item, we can be sure that it wasn't
packed properly.
> shows delivered, and I
> don't want to get
> a negative, but on the other hand it could be a scammer buying wanting
> to steal from me.
Or a seller who doesn't know diddly squat about proper packaging of a
shipment.
> Surely this is not the only time this has happened to anyone.
Other sellers who don't package things well are sometimes smart enough
to simply realize their mistake and give a full refund.
> I can't
No, I guess you can't.
> beleieve you think
A spelling checker is worth a thousand words...
> I was asking people to look out for the item...I didn't even say what
> the item was!!! I am
> seeking advice about what I should do.
We gave you the advice you asked for, take it. Give a full and immediate
refund, and move on. Next time, package things more securely.
PeterD
> "oly" <oly...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:806b819c-cd98-4ccb...@z37g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>
>> If you don't want negative feedback, refund their money and do it very
> quickly.
>
>> Otherwise, you will probably eventually have to pay the money anyway,
> and you'll also get a negative despite the refund.
>
>> oly
>
> report with the US Postal
> Inspection Service and he replied and said he was disabled and on a
> small pension and was unable to do that
Bwa-ha-ha-ha... Disabled doesn't stop one from filing the online report.
Nor does the small pension.
> and it would not do any good because he used to be a police man and all
> union goon government
> employees stand up for each other, I find this disturbing that he is
> unwilling to file a sworn statement
> that the item is actually missing, and therefore I feel I am being scammed.
OK, file a police report charging fraud. Also make it a federal case and
file with the USPS Inspector General's office. Then hire an attorney to
sue the scamming, cheating, lying buyer for a million dollars.
>
> How would negative feedback possibly be fair when I packed the item
> carefully,
No you didn't, you put it in an envelope.
> insured it, and
So file an insurance claim... You did that right? Why the fuck not? The
claim is NOT his responsibility to file, it is yours.
> bought delivery confirmation. The post office told me that the mailman
> would of not even delivered
> an obviously emply mailer than had been riffled and marked insured, but
> rather would of put a sticker
> on it that it was delivered damaged and contents missing, which would of
> made it easy for an insurance
> claim to be filed.
OK, file a police report charging fraud. Also make it a federal case and
file with the USPS Inspector General's office. Then hire an attorney to
sue the scamming, cheating, lying buyer for a million dollars. And screw
his disability, and small pension, make the bastard pay, pay and pay
some more. Hurt him like he's hurt you. Make his scream in agony, crying
for release.
PeterD
> ? "MCA00"<MC...@yahoo.com> ?????? ??? ??????
> news:iskero$pk8$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
>> I just received a message from a buyer that stated that he picked up the
>> padded mailer from his mailbox and the package was opened and the item was
>> missing. He's demanding that I make a refund or I will get negative
>> feedback. Of course I wouldn't pay to send them an opened empty package and
>> risk negative feedback just to scam them out of $15.00. So there are two
>> scenarios, either the post office employee stole it or the buyer is making
>> a false claim. The delivery confirmation shows delivered, so the insurance
>> will not pay. Is there anything else I can do? I don't have any negative
>> feedback and would like to keep it that way. Thanks.
>>
>> http://shop.ebay.com/mca00/m.html
>
>
> If he signed the delivery confirmation then he can't say it was opened,
Geeze, what a maroon... The recipient doesn't sign a deliver
confirmation, that's a signature confirmation. Are all coin dealers that
stupid? Oops, answered my own question, I guess so.
> because he would have seen it when he took the envelope in his hands!
> Based on that, ***I*** (but this is not an advise to you!!!) would not
> refund him and *if* he would leave me a negative I would present this
> argument to eBay asking them to remove it!
Seller would loose. eBay doesn't do that unless you are a power seller,
and top rated.
> It has happened in the past, I don't see why not happen again in your
> case...
>
> rgrds
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oly
> "oly" <oly2...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:806b819c-cd98-4ccb...@z37g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>
> >If you don't want negative feedback, refund their money and do it very
>
> quickly.
>
> >Otherwise, you will probably eventually have to pay the money anyway,
>
> and you'll also get a negative despite the refund.
>
> >oly
>
> Ebay help chat told me to write the buyer and tell him to file an online
> report with the US Postal
> Inspection Service and he replied and said he was disabled and on a small
> pension and was unable to do that
> union goon government
> employees stand up for each other, I find this disturbing that he is
> unwilling to file a sworn statement
> that the item is actually missing, and therefore I feel I am being scammed.
>
> bought delivery confirmation. The post office told me that the mailman
> would of not even delivered
> an obviously emply mailer than had been riffled and marked insured, but
> rather would of put a sticker
> on it that it was delivered damaged and contents missing, which would of
> made it easy for an insurance
> claim to be filed.
You are the complete MOOK - what's a measly $15??? Only a person with
very limited mental (and financial) capacity would consider taking a
nagative feedback hit for $15.
Until the amount of money gets relatively high, I wouldn't expect the
buyer to have to do anything. Nothing, nada, zero, rien.
It's part of the game, and no, life isn't fair. Too bad.
oly
oly
Speaking of fucking MOOKs, it's Frank the Mook.
We keep hoping that you'll starve to death through lack of sales.
Call the police over $15. Watching too much CSI or something. What a
fucking Liberal MOOK, eating salt-free turd soup probably while you
write this moronic drivel.
oly
Bremick
"gogu" <Ruminii_Sug_Pul@la_Greci.com> wrote in message
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>news:iskero$pk8$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
>>I just received a message from a buyer that stated that he picked up the
>>padded mailer from his mailbox and the package was opened and the item was
>>missing. He's demanding that I make a refund or I will get negative
>>feedback. Of course I wouldn't pay to send them an opened empty package
>>and risk negative feedback just to scam them out of $15.00. So there are
>>two scenarios, either the post office employee stole it or the buyer is
>>making a false claim. The delivery confirmation shows delivered, so the
>>insurance will not pay. Is there anything else I can do? I don't have any
>>negative feedback and would like to keep it that way. Thanks.
>>
>> http://shop.ebay.com/mca00/m.html
>
>
> If he signed the delivery confirmation then he can't say it was opened,
> because he would have seen it when he took the envelope in his hands!
> Based on that, ***I*** (but this is not an advise to you!!!) would not
> refund him and *if* he would leave me a negative I would present this
> argument to eBay asking them to remove it!
> It has happened in the past, I don't see why not happen again in your
> case...
>
The recipient doesn't have to sign for basic Delivery Confirmation. AFAIK,
the postman simply notes that he delivered it to the address provided.
gogu
news:ism27g$i0f$1...@dont-email.me...
As you (may) know Bruce I don't leave in the US so I'm not so familiar with
your postal system/regulations, I thought that it's the same as "signed for"
in the UK...
But in this case I fail to see what insurance you have that your item was
really delivered; a dishonest postman could leave nothing in your mailbox
and fill the form saying "item delivered"!
What insurance I have against dishonest postmen in this case and why pay
more for a service that gives me nothing more than simple snail mail?...
Thanks for clarifying anyway.
oly
>
> - Show quoted text -
Actually, the postman "zaps" the barcode on the delivery confirmation
label with a recorder "gun", just before he puts it in your mail box
or on your steps.
This is technology that wetback Roumanians illegally living in Greece
would likely have never seen.
oly
Bremick
"gogu" <Ruminii_Sug_Pul@la_Greci.com> wrote in message
Paying for delivery confirmation here simply documents that the postman
claims to have delivered the package to the address on it. It doesn't mean
that the addressee received it. It could have blown away or been stolen
from the mailbox, porch, or doorstep. The liklihood of a dishonest postman
is very slim. Getting the recipient's signature for a package costs more.
I have been lucky so far with sending insured packages and have not looked
into the procedures to follow should the other party claim not to have
received a package I sent.
oly
> "gogu" <Ruminii_Sug_Pul@la_Greci.com> wrote in message
>
> news:ism32b$6ld$1...@news.ntua.gr...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
In Greece, government corruption is very very rampant according to
every native Greek that I ever met. Not that Gogu is a native Greek,
mind you. But a real Greek's mind probably cannot comprehend the idea
of government servants who apparently do their stated job for only the
stipulated pay.
oly
Jason Burke
> On 6/7/2011 1:21 PM, MCA00 wrote:
>> "oly" <oly...@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:806b819c-cd98-4ccb...@z37g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>> If you don't want negative feedback, refund their money and do it very
>> quickly.
>>
>>> Otherwise, you will probably eventually have to pay the money anyway,
>> and you'll also get a negative despite the refund.
>>
>>> oly
>>
>> Ebay help chat told me to write the buyer and tell him to file an online
>> report with the US Postal
>> Inspection Service and he replied and said he was disabled and on a
>> small pension and was unable to do that
>
> Bwa-ha-ha-ha... Disabled doesn't stop one from filing the online report.
> Nor does the small pension.
One to two that Bobbie Finnan is the "buyer"
oly
> On 6/7/2011 12:29 PM, PeterD wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 6/7/2011 1:21 PM, MCA00 wrote:
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Oh gee, lets see, seven billion people on the planet and this empty
mailer is RF's fault???
What an original line of thought. You must have went to the esteemed
Reek Goldchokingchickensburgerborough School of Logic.
You might as well blame it on Obama.
In fact, you probably should blame it on Obama; if the economy was
better all these petty thefts would disappear.
Thank gawd the fookin' American Auto Industry "is back"!!!
Hope and change baby!!! (Change rolling in a mail truck somewhere).
oly
Don Lancaster
Comp the buyer, of course.
Your 30:1 SBR automatically protects you from such problems, so long as
they remain fairly rare.
More at < http://www.tinaja.com/ebsamp1.asp >
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Golly Oly! Maybe it was the coin / disabled / small pension (oh, pension
- I transposed a few letters and left a few off) that got me. I think
that narrows it down to a few less than seven billion. Now if the buyer
said he was a failed suicide that's milking off the government for all
it's worth would that be a bigger clue for you?
R. Totale
> I can't
>beleieve you think
>I was asking people to look out for the item...I didn't even say what the
>item was!!! I am
>seeking advice about what I should do.
What do you know, there's a coin in my mailbox I wasn't expecting!
What are the chances? Tell you what, I'll sell it to you for $12 plus
$5 shipping. The shipping costs so much 'cause I want to be sure to
use signature confirmation, so if it gets lost I can prove you got it.
Call me.
oly
>
> - Show quoted text -
If RF bought a coin on ebay, paid for it, and didn't receive it, then
he should get a refund just like anybody else.
No buyer should have to jump through a bunch of hoops set up by the
seller, after the fact, to get a $15 refund.
I had an $80 coin that I purchased on ebay very recently (out of
England) that didn't make it from point A to point B. We waited 30
days on the off-chance that it would still arrive, and then the seller
gave a full refund with very few questions asked.
It was a nice small 19th century silver coin, and I'd rather have the
coin than the money. Most real coin people would feel that way. Oh
well.
That gentleman seller has a perfect feedback record for a reason.
oly
Craig 'Lumpy' Lemke
> What do you know, there's a coin in my mailbox I wasn't expecting!
> What are the chances? Tell you what, I'll sell it to you for $12 plus
> $5 shipping. The shipping costs so much 'cause I want to be sure to
> use signature confirmation, so if it gets lost I can prove you got it.
> Call me.
Screw that. I'll make you any kind of coin you want.
Just name the type, value, mint, condition etc.
Frank
Pogonip
> On 6/7/2011 12:47 PM, clamz wrote:
>
>>
>> Bob, Phil and I recently bought a padded envelope that we thought cost 30
>> cents. We each pitched in 10 cents, but upon checkout, found out it
>> actually cost 25 cents.
>>
>>
>>
>> The clerk gave us each a penny back, but after we started fighting
>> about who
>> would get the other two pennies, the clerk said he would keep peace by
>> keeping the extra 2 cents in his penny jar
>>
>>
>>
>> That means my friends and I only spent 9 cents each for the envelope. The
>> total was thus 27 cents plus the two cents that the clerk kept. (27 + 2 =
>> 29). What happened to the other coin?
>>
>>
> MCA00 sold it?
Jeez, don't you guys have some coins to polish or something?
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>
> "Craig 'Lumpy' Lemke" <lu...@digitalcartography.com> wrote in message
> news:9563v...@mid.individual.net...
>> MCA00 wrote:
>>> I just received a message from a buyer that stated that he picked up
>>> the padded mailer from his mailbox and the package was opened and the
>>
>> Since you posted this to the coin group as well as the
>> eBay group, you must be a coin dealer. If you're an ANA
>> member, report the scenario to them. They will send
>> brick boy to do some attitude adjustment.
>>
>>
> I posted this to the ebay forum and the coin forum because I thought BOTH
> forums would find it
> mutually helpful and informative. All I have gotten so far are a bunch of
> stpid, vuglar, or mocking
> replies.
to each group, you would quickly find which was more helpful. It is a very
easy thing to do.
I agree with those who say just refund the $15.
--
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no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.
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Richard L. Hall
>I just received a message from a buyer that stated that he picked up the
>padded mailer from his mailbox and the package was opened and the item was
>feedback. Of course I wouldn't pay to send them an opened empty package and
>risk negative feedback just to scam them out of $15.00. So there are two
>scenarios, either the post office employee stole it or the buyer is making
>a false claim.
Or it was delivered to someone else by mistake and that person removed the
contents and dropped the mailer back in the mail. Or someone else had
access to the person's mailbox or mail.
>The delivery confirmation shows delivered,
Delivery confirmation just shows that it was delivered, not to whom it was
delivered. I've gotten several packages intended for my neighbors with
delivery confirmation. I just drop them back in the mail or take them to my
neighbors. I've even had cases where the mailman physically changed the
address on packages because it had my surname on them. They were supposed
to be delivered to one of my neighbors. It turned out she had a new
boyfriend with my surname who had just moved to the area and he was using
her address as a mail drop.
James E. Morrow
> I just received a message from a buyer that stated that he picked up the
> padded mailer from his mailbox and the package was opened and the item was
> missing. He's demanding that I make a refund or I will get negative
> feedback. Of course I wouldn't pay to send them an opened empty package and
> risk negative feedback just to scam them out of $15.00. So there are two
> scenarios, either the post office employee stole it or the buyer is making a
> feedback and would like to keep it that way. Thanks.
>
>
Make full refund. Move on. This is always a good business practice.
Sometimes it hurts but it is generally the best policy.
--
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Email to: jamese...@email.com
Don Lancaster
And, above all, show the quoted text.
Gary Dorman
Frank has been the victim of malicious slander on this board for many
years, but he is an honest and good seller.
Gary Dorman
> "Craig 'Lumpy' Lemke" <lu...@digitalcartography.com> wrote in messagenews:9563v...@mid.individual.net...> MCA00 wrote:
> >> I just received a message from a buyer that stated that he picked up
> >> the padded mailer from his mailbox and the package was opened and the
>
> > Since you posted this to the coin group as well as the
> > eBay group, you must be a coin dealer. If you're an ANA
> > member, report the scenario to them. They will send
> > brick boy to do some attitude adjustment.
>
> I posted this to the ebay forum and the coin forum because I thought BOTH
> forums would find it
> mutually helpful and informative. All I have gotten so far are a bunch of
> stpid, vuglar, or mocking
> replies.
That's all you can expect on the ebay newsgroup.
Gary Dorman
You people are accusing the OP of using an ENVELOPE when he said he
used a PADDED MAILER. There
is a difference.
Here is a padded mailer
http://www.uline.com/BL_1501/Jiffy-Padded-Mailers
I don't think it's fair to suggest that someone buy insurance, receive
delivery confirmation
that the item was delivered, the post office rejects the insurance
claim, and yet you advise that the
seller give a refund. That just encourages dishonest buyers. No
seller can stay in business
giving out free merchandise to crooks!
Don Lancaster
Which is the whole point of the exercise.
If you are selling to crooks, you are selling the wrong things in the
wrong way to the wrong people.
Craig 'Lumpy' Lemke
> Frank has been the victim of malicious
> slander on this board for many
> years, but he is an honest and good seller.
Frank Provasek has repeatedly admitted to sending
unsolicited commercial email to people.
He's been repeatedly suspended from eBay.
He's an alcoholic.
He loves coming to AMOE and getting his ass reamed.
You and BrickBoy can suck his dick all you want, Gary.
Craig 'Lumpy' Lemke
Craig 'Lumpy' Lemke
> That's all you can expect on the ebay newsgroup.
We have a habit of letting dishonest coin dealers
know what we think of them.
It's a shame you puss brains have some link somewhere
that says "Although you've never heard of it, you can
take all your troubles to AMOE and they will let you
cry on their shoulders"
May I please have permission to come over and
kick your ass? Try and make it on a Wednesday, please.
Lump
beekeep
wrote:
>
>"MCA00" <MC...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:islm5l$7pt$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
>>
> All I have gotten so far are a bunch of
>> stpid, vuglar, or mocking
>> replies.
>It's the stpid ones that really irk me.
>
>By the way, I checked around my mailbox, but didn't see any coins rolling
>around. Evidently it didn't fall out here, but I'll keep looking.
>
>
I found it! It must have rolled over here under my mail box.
beekeep
Bremick
"Gary Dorman" <garydor...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:c7eb17ca-79c5-4127...@v37g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
http://www.uline.com/BL_1501/Jiffy-Padded-Mailers
________________
Likewise, no seller can stay in business if he never bites his lip and
accepts that occasionally "the customer is always right". Once. If that
same buyer were to make another purchase and then make another similar
claim, weelllll................
Tony Clayton
Especially as the sum is small.
I once had an Ebay lot that failed to arrive at all.
Because it had been sent registered from Italy Ebay refused to
countenace any settlement. By the time the Ebay procedure went through
I was no longer able to send feedback as time had expired.
Fortunately my insurance company deemed that as it had left Italy
I was covered. Sadly, I have never been able to get those items again...
--
Tony Clayton
tony.cla...@pem.cam.ac.uk
Bremick
_____________
How do you know? Do you enjoy going there and following all the action?
Based on these types of complaints that make it to RCC, it sounds like a
bunch of first time sellers who encounter the inevitable glitch and who
figure that complaining to whomever will listen will solve their problems.
Tony Clayton
> Gary Dorman wrote:
>> Frank has been the victim of malicious
>> slander on this board for many
>> years, but he is an honest and good seller.
>
> Frank Provasek has repeatedly admitted to sending
> unsolicited commercial email to people.
>
> He's been repeatedly suspended from eBay.
>
> He's an alcoholic.
(a) so what
(b) what evidence?
>
> He loves coming to AMOE and getting his ass reamed.
A totally unnecessary comment.
>
> You and BrickBoy can suck his dick all you want, Gary.
I fail to understand why there are certain people who appear to live
for making gratuitous sexual innuendos.
Courtesy and grace enhances everyone's lives
>
--
Tony Clayton
tony.cla...@pem.cam.ac.uk
clamz
"beekeep" <hon...@radix.net> wrote in message
news:4df09ba2....@usenet.radix.net...
Thanks for posting. We can all now stop looking.
and some say we are of no help on alt.marketing.online.ebay
Craig 'Lumpy' Lemke
> and some say we are of no help on alt.marketing.online.ebay
Help!
I need somebody
Help!
Not just anybody
Help!
You know I need someone
Help!
Lumpy
Were you the voice of Casper?
No. Popeye, Snagglepuss and Wells Fargo Bank.
www.LumpyMusic.com
clamz
Dang - While out walking this morning, I found a 1978D penny near my
neighbor's mailbox.
MCAA00 - Is that the coin you're missing?
Post your mailing address, social security number and mother's maiden name
and I'll forward it.
oly
> "beekeep" <hone...@radix.net> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
Damn, three centavos worth of el copper puro.
Might want to hold onto that one, worth el big money in the coming
Obama-Bernanke hyperinflation.
(Hypothetical Question) Is it really worth it to try to phish the
personal information of somebody who can't easily make a $15 e-bay
refund???
oly
Gary Dorman
<lu...@digitalcartography.com> wrote:
>
> Frank Provasek has repeatedly admitted to sending
> unsolicited commercial email to people.
>
> He's been repeatedly suspended from eBay.
>
> He's an alcoholic.
>
>
Proof, otherwise it's just a smear.
clamz
I've got some 100 proof Smearnoff, will that do?
Craig 'Lumpy' Lemke
> Proof, otherwise it's just a smear.
Frank has been suspended multiple times.
He comes here and whines every time it happens.
Frank entertained us for months, on more than one
occasion, about how he thought it was perfectly ok
to harvest email addresses and send them unsolicited
email advertising his phoney coins.
Any DRA will take one look at Frank and tell you
he's an alcoholic. I posted his TX DPS DWI traffic stop
information when he was on the way home from a coin show.
You, who seem to want to be his personal defender, ought
to know all about that. You're always right here to
pull your nose out of his ass and stick up for him.
Next question?
Lumpy
In Your Ears for Fifty Years!
www.LumpyMusic.com
oly
Frank certainly looks unhealthy, both in person and in his ebay
portrait.
His posting habits here on RCC, the typically odd (late) hours - when
he is apparently managing to sell a few things - always made me wonder
what his recreational drug of choice was.
Now, I always suspected something other than alcohol. That I have
some sympathy for.
When Frank hasn't sold anything, well, then he shows up here on RCC at
more normal hours (apparently unable to catch a buzz which would
preclude him from showing up here until the middle of the night).
Frank ain't normal, he knows it, we knows it.
Again, I worry that our abuse will feed his apparent raving masochism
and could cause somebody to buy something from him out of sympathy.
oly
technomaNge
Sooo...the one I found ain't the one we were looking for?
I guess I'll have to keep it until I can sell it to a coin dealer.
technomaNge
--
Craig 'Lumpy' Lemke
> Wow this NG is helpful after all.
We have to be. It's in the bylaws.
Frank Provasek
delivered. The Post Office has
a loophole -- they will pay if the item is lost without a trace, or if
a damaged item is presented -- but try and
file a claim when it shows delivered, and no deal unless you can get
your letter carrier to admit that it was
misdelivered... but eBay WILL not make an automatic chargeback in
such cases. The seller can expect a
negative however.
----
Frank Provasek Rare Coins www.frankcoins.com
http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/frankcoins Texas Auction License
11259, Board member of Texas Coin Dealers Association,
Member TNA, ANA, PCGS, NGC, ICTA - Full Time Since 1991
clamz
"MCAA00" <fr...@spamexpire-201106.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> wrote in
message news:ff5b86cd394659a7...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
> On 6/9/2011 1:21 PM, clamz wrote:
>> "beekeep"<hon...@radix.net> wrote in message
>> news:4df09ba2....@usenet.radix.net...
>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 13:21:31 -0400,
> "clamz"<cl...@drunkinclam.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "MCA00"<MC...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:islm5l$7pt$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
>>>>>
>>>> All I have gotten so far are a bunch of
>>>>> stpid, vuglar, or mocking
>>>>> replies.
>>>> It's the stpid ones that really irk me.
>>>>
>>>> By the way, I checked around my mailbox, but didn't see any
> coins rolling
>>>> around. Evidently it didn't fall out here, but I'll keep
> looking.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I found it! It must have rolled over here under my mail box.
>>>
>>> beekeep
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> neighbor's mailbox.
>>
>> MCAA00 - Is that the coin you're missing?
>>
>> Post your mailing address, social security number and mother's maiden
>> name
>> and I'll forward it.
>>
>
>
> Send to: Elmer MCA00
> 545-7 Pope Blvd SW.
> Polecat Junction, W. Virginia 20989
> Mothers Maiden, XYZ9922
> SS# ABC DE FGHI..
> Wow . this NG is helpful after all.
>
Sitting by the window, feeling sad and blue
All because I haven't heard from you
and then my mama said "Look! Look!
Here comes the postman twistin' down the avenue
He's got a letter in his hand
and I know it has to be for you
PeterD
A smear of what? A Pap smear? A jam smear?
--
I'm never going to grow up.
Craig 'Lumpy' Lemke
> A smear of what? A Pap smear? A jam smear?
A smear on the good name of alcoholic, spamming,
federal law offending, dishonest coin dealers everywhere.
Steve Spradlin
The Frank Provasek with 100% feedback?
The Frank Provasek with 5.0/5.0/4.9/4.9 DSRs?
The Frank Provasek that's regulated by a state license board?
The Frank Provasek that's a member of a number of trade associations?
Why don't you scum get a life?
If anyone's an old drunk, take a look at Lumpy's
picture.
I checked the google archive...What's the deal here, you people have
been attacking this guy for years...
BrotherBart
The only Texas license Emil Frank Provasek has is an auctioneer's license.
Craig 'Lumpy' Lemke
> > Frank Provasek has repeatedly admitted to sending
> > unsolicited commercial email to people.
> >
> > He's been repeatedly suspended from eBay.
> >
> > He's an alcoholic.
> >
> > He loves coming to AMOE and getting his ass reamed.
> >
> > You and BrickBoy can suck his dick all you want, Gary.
Steve Spradlin:
> The Frank Provasek with 100% feedback?
That's the one. Any seller withOUT 100% positives
has only to wait the time period and the negs
go away. Frank's been here whining about negatives
in the past, just as he's whined about his getting
suspended on more than one occasion. I guess you
missed out on those multiple occasions.
> The Frank Provasek with 5.0/5.0/4.9/4.9 DSRs?
Yup. That's the one.
> The Frank Provasek that's regulated by a state license board?
Exactly what does the great state of TX "regulate"
about Frank? Do they deal with his commercial spamming?
His getting suspended from eBay? His alcoholism? That's
quite a state agency!
> The Frank Provasek that's a member of a number of trade associations?
Yup. That's the one. The one with all the
magazine subscriptions?
> Why don't you scum get a life?
Post an item number, I'll buy one.
> If anyone's an old drunk, take a look at Lumpy's
> picture.
I'll tweet you a pic of my weiner if you like.
> I checked the google archive...
Something we've been suggesting you idiots in the RCC
group would do more often, for years.
> What's the deal here, you people have
> been attacking this guy for years...
Has he gotten the hint yet?
Maybe he should report AMOE to those state regulatory
agencies and trade associations.
Don Lancaster
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_proof
--
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Don Lancaster voice phone: (928)428-4073
Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552
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BrotherBart
> Maybe he should report AMOE to those state regulatory
> agencies and trade associations.
>
>
Nah. Just report him to the Texas Rump Rangers for butt fucking the guy
in Weatherford.
Well, unless the brickboy was only butt fucking him.