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j-rod

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Jan 3, 2011, 4:40:51 PM1/3/11
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Any chance these slabs are fake?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320635880207
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120665185109
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370470667625
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120666318562
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320637420216
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320635869685

JAM

Beanie

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Jan 3, 2011, 7:39:51 PM1/3/11
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What makes you think they would be?
One hardly needs to fake slabs for modern proof commems, since I have seldom
seen any grade out below PF69 or MS69.
In fact, one of the coins you listed graded PF68.
If someone was going to fake a slab, wouldn't they make the grade as high as
possible?


"j-rod" <j-...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:4D224263...@nospam.net...

Jerry Dennis

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Jan 4, 2011, 12:23:03 AM1/4/11
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On Jan 3, 7:39 pm, "Beanie" <b...@ea.ne> wrote:
> What makes you think they would be?
> One hardly needs to fake slabs for modern proof commems, since I have seldom
> seen any grade out below PF69 or MS69.
> In fact, one of the coins you listed graded PF68.
> If someone was going to fake a slab, wouldn't they make the grade as high as
> possible?
>
> "j-rod" <j-...@nospam.net> wrote in messagenews:4D224263...@nospam.net...

>
> > Any chance these slabs are fake?
>
> >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320635880207
> >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120665185109
> >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370470667625
> >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120666318562
> >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320637420216
> >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320635869685
>
> > JAM

I'm more surprised that ebay is allowing these auctions to run.
They're slabs by a non-approved TPG, though we collectors, for the
most part, have no issues with ANACS.

Jerry

Beanie

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Jan 4, 2011, 7:52:32 AM1/4/11
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ANACS is one of the four eBay "approved" TPGs (PCGS, NGC, ICG, ANACS)

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Michael Benveniste

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Jan 4, 2011, 9:24:18 AM1/4/11
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"Beanie" <b...@ea.ne> wrote in message news:ifv56f$u92$1...@speranza.aioe.org...

> ANACS is one of the four eBay "approved" TPGs (PCGS, NGC, ICG, ANACS)

NCS is also "blessed," although I don't think NCS stopped
using its own slabs a while back:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/currstamps.html#certified

That said, none of these auctions show a certification number,
and I've never seen ANACS slabs that look like these nor any
with the words "ANACS certified" on the front. Has ANACS made
another slab change recently?

--
Mike Benveniste -- m...@murkyether.com (Clarification Required)
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everything. Some think it is the voice of God. -- Mark Twain


Beanie

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Jan 4, 2011, 11:21:58 AM1/4/11
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"Michael Benveniste" <m...@murkyether.com> wrote in message
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> "Beanie" <b...@ea.ne> wrote in message news:ifv56f$u92$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
>> ANACS is one of the four eBay "approved" TPGs (PCGS, NGC, ICG, ANACS)
>
> NCS is also "blessed," although I don't think NCS stopped
> using its own slabs a while back:
> http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/currstamps.html#certified
>
> That said, none of these auctions show a certification number,
> and I've never seen ANACS slabs that look like these nor any
> with the words "ANACS certified" on the front. Has ANACS made
> another slab change recently?

I was wondering that myself.
I wish ANACS would pick a style and stick to it.
I still wonder why anyone would fake a slab for a modern coin and NOT give it an
MS/PF70 grade.


j-rod

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Jan 4, 2011, 7:38:06 PM1/4/11
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ANACS certified coins are allowed on eBay and there numerical grades and
name are allowed in the title, just like NGC PCGS ICCS and ICG.

These do not appear to be actual ANACS slabs. The have not serial number
and look like do it your self slabs.

JAM

Beanie

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Jan 4, 2011, 10:34:29 PM1/4/11
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"j-rod" <j-...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:4D224263...@nospam.net...
>

Upon further examination of this seller's auction, I've come to the conclusion
that these are definitely NOT ANACS slabs.
I reported a bunch of the fake slabs to eBay and urge others to do the same.


Frank Provasek

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Jan 5, 2011, 2:40:27 AM1/5/11
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They are legitimate slabs used for special Home Shopping Network
promotions of generic-type modern coins, according to Condor101, who
keeps a running history of slab types. Here is a photo of some known
to be genuine, with the same slab style.

http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/uploaded/Brent%20Williams/2010516_DSCN2463.JPG

Steve

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Jan 13, 2011, 2:13:02 AM1/13/11
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Seems like none of the auctions were killed. Do we assume the slabs
were genuine or ebay failed once again to end auctions of fakes?

Frank Galikanokus

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Jan 13, 2011, 11:34:32 AM1/13/11
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Steve wrote:
>
> Seems like none of the auctions were killed. Do we assume the slabs
> were genuine or ebay failed once again to end auctions of fakes?

I would assume the latter.

JAM

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