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Michael Benveniste

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Mar 30, 2010, 5:57:20 PM3/30/10
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Did anyone notice the teaser blurb for PCGS's "new" SecurePlus service?
http://www.pcgs.com/secureplus.html

Quoting:
Imagine a world without coin doctoring. Imagine a world without
"gradeflation."

It seems to me the whole idea behind "plus" grading is to get people
to resubmit their coins so they can get that precious "plus." So
a PCGS MS-64 coin may magically change grade and become a PCGS
MS-64+ coin. But of course, PCGS won't regrade an MS-65 as an
MS-64+, because then they'd have to pay out the difference.

Isn't that the very definition of "gradeflation?"

Then there's the CAC sticker to consider. So now we're going to
have MS-64, MS-64 CAC, MS-64+, and MS-64+ CAC, plus another
style of holder for sellers and buyers to disagree over.

Grumble, grumble, buy the coin, grumble grumble...

--
Mike Benveniste -- m...@murkyether.com (Clarification Required)
Its name is Public opinion. It is held in reverence. It settles
everything. Some think it is the voice of God. -- Mark Twain

Mr. Jaggers

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Mar 30, 2010, 6:34:11 PM3/30/10
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Michael Benveniste wrote:
> Did anyone notice the teaser blurb for PCGS's "new" SecurePlus
> service? http://www.pcgs.com/secureplus.html
>
> Quoting:
> Imagine a world without coin doctoring. Imagine a world without
> "gradeflation."
>
> It seems to me the whole idea behind "plus" grading is to get people
> to resubmit their coins so they can get that precious "plus." So
> a PCGS MS-64 coin may magically change grade and become a PCGS
> MS-64+ coin. But of course, PCGS won't regrade an MS-65 as an
> MS-64+, because then they'd have to pay out the difference.
>
> Isn't that the very definition of "gradeflation?"
>
> Then there's the CAC sticker to consider. So now we're going to
> have MS-64, MS-64 CAC, MS-64+, and MS-64+ CAC, plus another
> style of holder for sellers and buyers to disagree over.
>
> Grumble, grumble, buy the coin, grumble grumble...

New rule: Virtually Flawless 1963 Franklin Half Dollar, MS67+ PQ CAC, Very,
Very Choice, Fully Struck and Brilliant, High End for the Grade, Sure to
Please the Most Fussy and Discriminating Collector, Great Candidate for MS68
or Even Higher, A Numismatic Treasure for the Connoisseur, Hurry, This Coin
Will Not Last Long

James the Collector of G06 Coppers


Scurvy Dog

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Mar 30, 2010, 6:59:50 PM3/30/10
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"Michael Benveniste" <m...@murkyether.com> wrote in message
news:81fae5...@mid.individual.net...

> Did anyone notice the teaser blurb for PCGS's "new" SecurePlus service?
> http://www.pcgs.com/secureplus.html
>
> Quoting:
> Imagine a world without coin doctoring. Imagine a world without
> "gradeflation."
> It seems to me the whole idea behind "plus" grading is to get people
> to resubmit their coins so they can get that precious "plus." So
> a PCGS MS-64 coin may magically change grade and become a PCGS
> MS-64+ coin. But of course, PCGS won't regrade an MS-65 as an
> MS-64+, because then they'd have to pay out the difference.
>
> Isn't that the very definition of "gradeflation?"
>
> Then there's the CAC sticker to consider. So now we're going to
> have MS-64, MS-64 CAC, MS-64+, and MS-64+ CAC, plus another
> style of holder for sellers and buyers to disagree over.
>
> Grumble, grumble, buy the coin, grumble grumble...

"What does PCGS Secure Plus do for your coins? Two extremely important things -
it builds confidence (Secure), and adds value (Plus). PCGS Secure Plus achieves
these goals with:
a.. More precise and consistent grading
b.. Improved detection of altered coins
c.. Less chance of "gradeflation""
I thought the purpose of TPGs was to privide "precise and consistent grading".
SIlly me.
This seems like nothing more than PCGS trying to put CAC out of business and
squeeze another few bucks out of collectors.


sgt23

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Apr 1, 2010, 4:10:58 AM4/1/10
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On Mar 30, 6:34 pm, "Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote:
> Michael Benveniste wrote:
> > Did anyone notice the teaser blurb for PCGS's "new" SecurePlus
> > service?http://www.pcgs.com/secureplus.html

Oh crap, now they will have to make a bigger slab, just too fit all of
that on the label. :(

Reality

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Apr 1, 2010, 8:13:51 PM4/1/10
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On Mar 30, 2:57 pm, "Michael Benveniste" <m...@murkyether.com> wrote:
> Did anyone notice the teaser blurb for PCGS's "new" SecurePlus service?http://www.pcgs.com/secureplus.html

It's just an attempt by PCGS to steal CAC's thunder and generate more $
$$ to them instead of CAC. If PCGS merely did the jobs that they were
paid to do in the first place, then this nonsense would not be an
issue.

Michael Benveniste

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Apr 2, 2010, 7:12:17 PM4/2/10
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"sgt23" <bravesfa...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Oh crap, now they will have to make a bigger slab, just too fit all of
> that on the label. :(

Well, the last slabbed token I purchased came in an ~4"x8" NGC
oversized holder, so the grading services are ready if you are.

sgt23

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Apr 9, 2010, 12:16:40 AM4/9/10
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On Apr 2, 7:12 pm, "Michael Benveniste" <m...@murkyether.com> wrote:

Before long the slabs will come with label booklet or a LCD screen.
That will be a fun time of trying too figure out how to replace the
batteries. lol

Mr. Jaggers

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Apr 9, 2010, 12:31:16 AM4/9/10
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Maybe they will be solar powered. Or better yet, run off brain radiation.

James the Telekinetic


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