Dealer can't get rare coins back
Frantisek Baltiska
Dealer can't get rare coins back
A rare coin dealer in the USA clicked on the wrong customer's name, sending
a computerized shipment order valued at nearly $38,000 to an Athens,
Missouri man instead of the person in Missouri who bought the coins,
Athens-Clarke police said.
The package contained 10,000 silver U.S. dimes and 50 French Napoleanic-era
coins, according to police.
The Minnesota coin dealer was unable to speak with the Athens man about the
mistake because he didn't return several phone messages, according to
police.
The man may face a theft by conversion charge because he signed for the
package of coins when he picked them up at a local post office March 8,
police said.
The coin dealer filed a complaint with police Wednesday.
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Jud
wrote:
> 23. M RZ 2011
The law says that if you receive something in the mail that you didn't
order, you may keep it. However...if it wasn't addressed to him, and
at that address, it is fraudulent. Ethically of course, it isn't his
and should be returned in any case. I once received a package from the
Royal Australian Mint that contained not only my coins, but also some
that belonged to someone else. Not to pat myself on the back, but I
returned them, at my expense. I wouldn't be able to sleep if I had
kept them. The RAM did offer to pay the return postage, but I
foolishly didn't keep the receipt.
Bremick
"Frantisek Baltiska" <mai...@tuebingen.mpg.de> wrote in message
news:imeiob$id4$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
> 23. MÄRZ 2011
>
> Dealer can't get rare coins back
>
>
> A rare coin dealer in the USA clicked on the wrong customer's name,
> sending a computerized shipment order valued at nearly $38,000 to an
> Athens, Missouri man instead of the person in Missouri who bought the
> coins, Athens-Clarke police said.
>
> The package contained 10,000 silver U.S. dimes and 50 French
> Napoleanic-era coins, according to police.
>
> The Minnesota coin dealer was unable to speak with the Athens man about
> the mistake because he didn't return several phone messages, according to
> police.
>
> The man may face a theft by conversion charge because he signed for the
> package of coins when he picked them up at a local post office March 8,
> police said.
>
> The coin dealer filed a complaint with police Wednesday.
So where in the article does it conclude that the dealer can't get his rare
coins back? And I didn't realize that silver dimes were "rare". Even
10,000 of them.
Beanie
"Frantisek Baltiska" <mai...@tuebingen.mpg.de> wrote in message
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> package of coins when he picked them up at a local post office March 8, police
> said.
>
If the package was actually addressed to him, the receiver may not have
committed any crime or tort
> The coin dealer filed a complaint with police Wednesday.
What's his complaint? That he's an idiot? Hardly a crime.
Bub
coin shop gave the mistaken recipient fair notice of the error. Hence, the
guy know's in his heart the property belongs to someone else and by dodging
his calls is committing theft.
"Beanie" <b...@an.ie> wrote in message news:imfl7b$u2q$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
D.O. Moore
is good to us, making things so simple.
Beanie
"Bub" <reererm...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> This is theft by conversion pure and simple, because to owner of the rare coin
> shop gave the mistaken recipient fair notice of the error. Hence, the guy
> know's in his heart the property belongs to someone else and by dodging his
> calls is committing theft.
It's not clear that the person in question ever rec'd the alleged phone
messages.
For that matter there's no evidence that the calls were even made.
Is the subject wrong to keep the merchandise - yes, but so far no criminal act
or tort has been proven.
Frank Provasek
returned on request, but you have the right to
charge for return shipping, and your time and storage costs.
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http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/frankcoins Texas Auction License
11259, Board member of Texas Coin Dealers Association,
Member TNA, ANA, PCGS, NGC, ICTA - Full Time Since 1991
Beanie
"Frank Provasek" <fr...@frankcoins.com> wrote in message
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> Something delivered by mistake...even if addressed to you...must be
> returned on request, but you have the right to
> charge for return shipping, and your time and storage costs.
Is it a "mistake" if the package is actually addressed to you and not just
mis-delivered?
Return Shipping & Labor: $20,000.00
Storage Costs: $50,000.00