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Jud

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Jan 20, 2010, 10:30:04 AM1/20/10
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Both are tanking right now. Silver @ $18.06 and Gold @ $1111.80

Bruce Remick

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Jan 20, 2010, 12:20:17 PM1/20/10
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"Jud" <numis...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Both are tanking right now. Silver @ $18.06 and Gold @ $1111.80

A good deal for anyone looking to buy. I've yet to understand how the US
dollar can be deemed "stong" one hour and "weak" a couple hours later, with
metal prices seemingly attached to these fluctuations with a rubber band. I
wonder what would have happened to the dollar, gold, and silver if the
Democrat had won in Massachusetts yesterday. Wall Street reportedly got
giddy yesterday over the prospect of a Republican win, but that's apparently
ancient history today.


oly

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Jan 20, 2010, 12:41:25 PM1/20/10
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On Jan 20, 11:20 am, "Bruce Remick" <rem...@cox.net> wrote:
> "Jud" <numismat...@aol.com> wrote in message

Darkening financial/political conditions in Euroland seem to be
today's primary movement maker. China is on peoples' minds, and
banking profits too. This stuff is all very ephemeral.

Brown's upset victory is amazing in a way (i.e., I don't think
everybody in Massachusetts just became members of the G.O.P.).

oly

Ken Barr

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Jan 20, 2010, 2:45:22 PM1/20/10
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In article
<8304fe6a-6ebf-47af...@c34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
Jud <numis...@aol.com> wrote:

> Both are tanking right now. Silver @ $18.06 and Gold @ $1111.80

And just in time, too ... I still have to buy the $20 Saint for the top
prize in the San Jose Coin Club coin show raffle this weekend. Several
members of the Board tried to convince me to buy it last month, when
spot topped $1200, "before it goes any higher". I decided not to since
I figgered gold had a much better short-term downside than upside ...

I'll be sure to mention this at the next Board meeting ...

--
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PC

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Jan 20, 2010, 3:39:50 PM1/20/10
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I fail to see who this election really changes anything. The
Democrats had a super majority and were largely ineffective. So now
they don't have it. They will continue to be largely ineffective.

Conversely the Republicans managed to cram a lot of crappy legislation
through with a simple majority in Bush's first six years.

Bruce Remick

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"oly" <oly...@aol.com> wrote in message
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On Jan 20, 11:20 am, "Bruce Remick" <rem...@cox.net> wrote:
> "Jud" <numismat...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:8304fe6a-6ebf-47af...@c34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Both are tanking right now. Silver @ $18.06 and Gold @ $1111.80
>
> A good deal for anyone looking to buy. I've yet to understand how the US
> dollar can be deemed "stong" one hour and "weak" a couple hours later,
> with
> metal prices seemingly attached to these fluctuations with a rubber band.
> I
> wonder what would have happened to the dollar, gold, and silver if the
> Democrat had won in Massachusetts yesterday. Wall Street reportedly got
> giddy yesterday over the prospect of a Republican win, but that's
> apparently
> ancient history today.

Darkening financial/political conditions in Euroland seem to be
today's primary movement maker. China is on peoples' minds, and
banking profits too. This stuff is all very ephemeral.

=============

I do realize that the US dollar is not the only factor, or even always
the prime factor, driving metals prices. But it still confounds me how
this dollar strength seems to change back and forth daily. And the metals
prices usually fluctuate in lockstep. I would think it should take at least
several days of study to determine whether the dollar is indeed weak or
strong and that gold & silver would stand by waiting for that decision
rather than jumping around. I suppose if I took an economics course it
would all become clear to me.
===============

Brown's upset victory is amazing in a way (i.e., I don't think
everybody in Massachusetts just became members of the G.O.P.).

==============

You're right there. Coming from one of the states that Mass. sits on, this
has to be the first state election there that has had such a direct effect
on those of us elsewhere in the US.

Mr. Jaggers

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Jan 20, 2010, 4:00:48 PM1/20/10
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A course in journalism would stand you in better stead. The lesson
objective on the very first day in course 101: "As a journalist you have
either time or column inches, or both, to fill up with something. Your job:
Fill it." Any questions? Class dismissed.

James, suffering diarrhea of both mouth and pen

Jud

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Jan 20, 2010, 5:03:49 PM1/20/10
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Closing prices:
Silver $17.86 down from yesterdays close of $18.76
Gold $1110.10 down from yesterdays close of $1137.60

Mr. Jaggers

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Jan 20, 2010, 7:14:09 PM1/20/10
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We're doomed!

James the Hanger of Crepe


Donald Weber

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Jan 20, 2010, 8:03:26 PM1/20/10
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PC Wrote on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 3:39 PM

I fail to see who this election really changes anything. The
Democrats had a super majority and were largely ineffective. So now
they don't have it. They will continue to be largely ineffective.

Conversely the Republicans managed to cram a lot of crappy legislation
through with a simple majority in Bush's first six years.

_________________________________________________________

I might point out that though the GOP controlled both Houses at the time,
They did not have a super majority in the Senate and therefore it was
necessary to get at least a few Democrats to go along with anything they
wanted to pass. A small point but an important one.


Bruce Remick

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Jan 20, 2010, 8:19:28 PM1/20/10
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"Donald Weber" <dwe...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> PC Wrote on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 3:39 PM
>
> I fail to see who this election really changes anything. The
> Democrats had a super majority and were largely ineffective. So now
> they don't have it. They will continue to be largely ineffective.

They seem to have had a recent "attitude adjustment". That's a change.
Hopefully, while there's still a haze over the chambers, we'll get a little
more partisanship when crafting these monster bills, not that this will
streamline the process.


Bruce Remick

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Jan 20, 2010, 8:20:41 PM1/20/10
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"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
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You sold me. I just signed up for a course in Zen.


Mr. Jaggers

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Jan 20, 2010, 8:37:25 PM1/20/10
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That'll work, too. Just don't get into any of that reality business, it
just hurts too much.

James the Sadist


Jud

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Jan 21, 2010, 10:52:55 AM1/21/10
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Precious metals continue their death spiral. Hang in there Ken!

Petronius

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"Jud" <numis...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Precious metals continue their death spiral. Hang in there Ken!

Like the South, gold and silver will rise again!


Bruce Remick

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"Jud" <numis...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Precious metals continue their death spiral. Hang in there Ken!

Don't worry. That TV gold pitchman says that gold has never been worth
zero.

That same guy reminds me of the nerd kid in American Graffitti, all grown
up.


Peter

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Jan 21, 2010, 1:19:32 PM1/21/10
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On Jan 21, 12:06 pm, "Petronius" <P...@ron.ius> wrote:
> "Jud" <numismat...@aol.com> wrote in message

>
> news:7797ccd4-cc56-42c6...@22g2000yqr.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Precious metals continue their death spiral. Hang in there Ken!
>
> Like the South, gold and silver will rise again!

I have also heard that remark (the South will rise again!) in
Bavaria. Followed by the remark that, zees time ve conquer ze whole
vereld.

Mr. Jaggers

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Jan 21, 2010, 1:48:17 PM1/21/10
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They'll have to get past the Duchy of Grand Fenwick before they conquer the
rest of the world, and, as you may know, the Duchy once defeated the U.S.
without firing a single shot.

James the Roaring Rodent

PC

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Jan 21, 2010, 8:28:33 PM1/21/10
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I would characterize as something more like "folding like a cheap
lawnchair" rather than "going along" but maybe that is just me.

Peter

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Jan 21, 2010, 9:47:26 PM1/21/10
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Fredonia is still a contender, but currently leaderless ...

Peter

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Jan 21, 2010, 9:50:44 PM1/21/10
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> Fredonia is still a contender, but currently leaderless ...- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Oops! Freedonia and regards to Rufus.

Ken Barr

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Jan 22, 2010, 3:41:41 AM1/22/10
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In article
<7797ccd4-cc56-42c6...@22g2000yqr.googlegroups.com>,
Jud <numis...@aol.com> wrote:

> Precious metals continue their death spiral. Hang in there Ken!

For the record, I bought a 1927 $20 Saint in NGC MS63 for $1400 during
deeler setup night Thursday evening. Should be a nice attention getter
for the show raffle this weekend ...

It wuz about $300 cheaper than it wuddabin a month ago ($100 lower spot
and $200 lower premium ...), and only about $100 more than a raw XF/AU
$20 Saint would have cost ... Go figure!

mazorj

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Jan 22, 2010, 11:18:52 AM1/22/10
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"PC" <super...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I share your distaste, but if having the leadership heavies squash a few
lawnchairs is what it takes to get enough congress-critters to hold their
noses and vote "Aye," then crumple away. Ten years from now no one will
care or even remember how this particular sausage was made. Hopefully we'll
be too busy building and improving on it. To paraphrase the saying about
the dancing bear, the wonder is not that the first bill fell far short of
hopes, it's that it was enacted at all.


Jud

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Jan 26, 2010, 8:59:44 AM1/26/10
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On Jan 20, 10:30 am, Jud <numismat...@aol.com> wrote:
> Both are tanking right now. Silver @ $18.06 and Gold @ $1111.80

At 9:00 AM, EST, the death spiral continues
Silver @$16.45 and Gold @ $1085.60. Gold below $1000? Could be!

Mr. Jaggers

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Jan 26, 2010, 10:26:18 AM1/26/10
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The world is coming to an end, I can feel it.

James the Doomsayer


Bruce Remick

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"Jud" <numis...@aol.com> wrote in message
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=======

Jud, you really seem to enjoy pointing out falling gold and silver prices.
Are you anticipating $900 gold in order to invest some 401k money, or do you
just like to raise the Old Harry with those who might be holding gold and/or
silver?


Petronius

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Jan 26, 2010, 1:11:12 PM1/26/10
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"Jud" <numis...@aol.com> wrote in message
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------------------------------------------------------------------------
I view this as a buying opportunity...


Frank Galikanokus

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Jan 26, 2010, 1:37:31 PM1/26/10
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Dollar BREAKOUT: Big rally continues

http://www.thedailycrux.com/content/3659/US_dollar

A coincidence?

I think not.

JAM

Bruce Remick

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"Petronius" <P...@ron.ius> wrote in message
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Exactly my sentiments, although I already enjoy some of the two metals as
long term investments.


Mr. Jaggers

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Jan 26, 2010, 4:30:19 PM1/26/10
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Bought back when gold was $35 an ounce, yes?

James the Old-Timer


Jud

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Jan 26, 2010, 4:43:45 PM1/26/10
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On Jan 26, 12:13 pm, "Bruce Remick" <rem...@cox.net> wrote:

> Jud, you really seem to enjoy pointing out falling gold and silver prices.
> Are you anticipating $900 gold in order to invest some 401k money, or do you
> just like to raise the Old Harry with those who might be holding gold and/or
> silver?

Not really Bruce, I only mention it as there have been some wild
swings in PM recently. Not out of enjoyment, more of a public service
announcement! :-)

mazorj

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"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
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I think Bruce got it at $20 per ounce!

Petronius

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---------------------------------------------------------------
Right - because none of us here has the slightest idea on how to check on PM
prices.


Bruce Remick

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"mazorj" <maz...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Actually, well dressed men in horse-drawn carts were selling ingots by the
pound outside Sutter's Store. Fool that I was though, I spent my money on
magic beans instead. Otherwise, I figured it would have been like spending
a dollar for a dollar. No sense in that. I still have those beans.

Petronius

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"Bruce Remick" <rem...@cox.net> wrote in message
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There will be short term flucuations in gold & silver prices but I believe the
long term trend to be very bullish.
The USA has record a deficit and the government will do what it always does to
solve the problem and that will be to inflate the currency.
For those who haven't been paying attention: inflation=higher gold price.


Bruce Remick

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"Petronius" <P...@ron.ius> wrote in message
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Hmmm. We were assured by the Fed that there was no inflation in 2009, so my
wife's SS and my pension will remain the same for 2010-- but our health
insurance premium are being increased by 15%. I can't wait for 2011. I'm
becoming convinced that it's not the insurance companies that need to be
controlled, it's the doctors and hospitals whose fees are constantly
increasing. A $300 bill for a 10-minute consultation with the family
doctor? (Those commercials tell you to "Ask your doctor"? Hah!) That MRI
that cost me $1,000 five years ago today costs $2,300. Looks to me like the
insurance companies are just keeping pace. Sorry for the rant. It's that
time of year.


gogu

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� "Petronius" <P...@ron.ius> ������ ��� ������
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>>> "Jud" <numis...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>> news:09641682-02e6-4082...@x6g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Jan 20, 10:30 am, Jud <numismat...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>> Both are tanking right now. Silver @ $18.06 and Gold @ $1111.80
>>>
>>> At 9:00 AM, EST, the death spiral continues
>>> Silver @$16.45 and Gold @ $1085.60. Gold below $1000? Could be!
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> I view this as a buying opportunity...


>> Exactly my sentiments, although I already enjoy some of the two metals as
>> long term investments.


> There will be short term flucuations in gold & silver prices but I believe
> the long term trend to be very bullish.
> The USA has record a deficit and the government will do what it always
> does to solve the problem and that will be to inflate the currency.
> For those who haven't been paying attention: inflation=higher gold price.

Methink that it (generally) goes like that:
euro up/dollar down=gold up.
dollar up/euro down=gold down.
Check it out and you'll see;-)

--

E' mai possibile, oh porco di un cane, che le avventure
in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi
puttane! F.d.A

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Frank Galikanokus

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inflation=lower dollar value=higher gold price

JAM

Wm Hopkins

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Jan 28, 2010, 1:54:42 PM1/28/10
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"Bruce Remick" <rem...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Can it be considered a rant when it's more closely a factual statement?

Mr. Jaggers

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You can probably remember when an office visit was in the $4 - $5 range.
The total bill for my birthcare and my mother's hospital stay [several days
back in that time] came to less than $100. I still have the receipt that
she gave me.

A few years ago I was at my accountant's reception and, being able to read
print that is upside-down as easily as I can read right-side up, I noticed a
local physician's tax return lying on the desk. His gross salary was close
to $500k; of that, $185k was for malpractice insurance. I doubt very much
that my $5-per-visit GP (who would still make a house call) had to deal with
malpractice insurance.

James the im-Patient
'nevertheless, these are the good old days'


Petronius

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"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
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Most doctors are not fabulously wealthy.
Most are well-to-do but they have had to get years of education and training to
get a medical license, not to mention the many hours of continuing education
required to keep practising.
$500K sounds like a lot but after you take out malpractice insurance, taxes,
office rent, etc., ... well you get the picture...


Bruce Remick

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"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
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In our youth, it was an option to have the doctor come to your home for
non-routine problems. I have no idea if it cost more for that, but most
people we knew used that service regularly. How much the doctor charged was
never discussed with children, so I always figured it was free.

>
> A few years ago I was at my accountant's reception and, being able to read
> print that is upside-down as easily as I can read right-side up, I noticed
> a local physician's tax return lying on the desk. His gross salary was
> close to $500k; of that, $185k was for malpractice insurance. I doubt
> very much that my $5-per-visit GP (who would still make a house call) had
> to deal with malpractice insurance.

Along with increasing paperwork requirements, those unbelievable malpractice
insurance premiums will drive more and more GP doctors into retirement or
specialization, at a time when the government is eager to pay for 40 million
potential new patients. Friggin' lawyers..............


Jud

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Jan 29, 2010, 10:29:52 AM1/29/10
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On Jan 28, 2:14 pm, "Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote:
.

> The total bill for my birthcare and my mother's hospital stay [several days
> back in that time] came to less than $100.  I still have the receipt that
> she gave me.

You get what you pay for! 8-)

Mr. Jaggers

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I may have been worth less than a hundred bucks at the beginning, but look
what I'm worth today!

James
'boy, did I leave myself open there'


mazorj

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"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
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You sure did!

I remember back in the 1970s when it was widely touted that the value
of a human body broken down to its chemical elements was two or three
dollars. Add inflation for your current elemental value.

If you go the cremation route, you may fetch a few cents as aggregate
in a concrete or asphalt road.

Today, your various organs and body parts may yield mid- to high six
figures on the body parts market. Your heirs will have to express ship
your chilled self to some part of the world where paying is not
illegal, or at least where the laws are not well enforced, so be sure
to subtract that cost to get your net value.

- mazorj the Market Mortician


Mr. Jaggers

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I should think the D2O in the human body would be worth more than a couple
of bucks.

James the Hydrogen Heavy


mazorj

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"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
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I guess it depends on what it would cost to extract and purify 5 grams
of heavy water.

For those who remember the book and movie "Soylent Green" this adds a
twist to the economics of the resource recovery process.

mazorj

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"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
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New demurrer - D2O is a molecule, not an element.

Good grief. A Yahoo Q&A site says:

"When broken down into fluids, tissues and germ fighting our bodies are
worth more than $45 million.

"This price tag on the human body is based on a survey published in Wired
magazine. It found that vital organs are no longer the most valuable body
parts. Rather, bone marrow heads the list�priced at $23 million, based on
1,000 grams at $23,000 per gram. DNA can fetch $9.7 million, while
extracting antibodies can bring $7.3 million. A lung is worth $116,400, a
kidney $91,400 and a heart $57,000."

If you will your body to science so that a few organs can be harvested or a
med student can hack away at it, you apparently are grossly undervaluing
what appears to be by far your most expensive personal asset!

Of course, this reflects the auto body chop shop maxim that the value of the
sum of the parts is far more than that of the intact car. It also is not
the value of all the elements if they were broken down and separated.

Another site say the current value of the elements in a human body is $4.50
and while it doesn't give a source for that, it sounds like it's in the
right ball park. Which means there's a seven order of magnitude difference
between your value in a chemistry class versus a medical facility.

Mr. Jaggers

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> valuable body parts. Rather, bone marrow heads the list�priced at $23

> million, based on 1,000 grams at $23,000 per gram. DNA can fetch
> $9.7 million, while extracting antibodies can bring $7.3 million. A
> lung is worth $116,400, a kidney $91,400 and a heart $57,000."
>
> If you will your body to science so that a few organs can be
> harvested or a med student can hack away at it, you apparently are
> grossly undervaluing what appears to be by far your most expensive
> personal asset!
> Of course, this reflects the auto body chop shop maxim that the value
> of the sum of the parts is far more than that of the intact car. It
> also is not the value of all the elements if they were broken down
> and separated.
> Another site say the current value of the elements in a human body is
> $4.50 and while it doesn't give a source for that, it sounds like
> it's in the right ball park. Which means there's a seven order of
> magnitude difference between your value in a chemistry class versus a
> medical facility.

I wonder if I could employ that philosophy when it comes time to liquidate
my coins. I can see my eBay come-on now: Breaking up complete set, coins
worth far more if bought individually than as a job lot. Would be great
additions to any collection. Average grade of coins in set = VF, but if
bought one at a time, the lowest piece will grade AU50.

James the Gradeflator


Bruce Remick

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"mazorj" <maz...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> parts. Rather, bone marrow heads the list�priced at $23 million, based on
> 1,000 grams at $23,000 per gram. DNA can fetch $9.7 million, while
> extracting antibodies can bring $7.3 million. A lung is worth $116,400, a
> kidney $91,400 and a heart $57,000."

Couldn't we then be our own adequate collateral for a home loan? Default?
Okay, take some marrow. Or better yet, how about a DNA swab?


Mr. Jaggers

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>> valuable body parts. Rather, bone marrow heads the list.priced at

>> $23 million, based on 1,000 grams at $23,000 per gram. DNA can
>> fetch $9.7 million, while extracting antibodies can bring $7.3
>> million. A lung is worth $116,400, a kidney $91,400 and a heart
>> $57,000."
>
> Couldn't we then be our own adequate collateral for a home loan? Default?
> Okay, take some marrow. Or better yet, how about a DNA swab?

Not me. No telling where that swab has been.

James the Cautious


Bruce Remick

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"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
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Of course not you. I'm talkin' about the bank. They can watch me take the
DNA swab and be assured of the quality they're getting.

I've seen a couple muscle cars on tonight's Mecum Auction TV coverage that
I'd be willing to part with a few grams of something to own. I'd even
deliver.


som...@some.domain

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larry niven nailed it yet again

Jon Jon

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Silver has been up for awhile, I've been sitting on a check for awhile
waiting its' drop, I'll jump in if it diddles the $13/14 mark.

mazorj

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Great writer. Having been a voracious SF reader in my youth, I subscribed
to the three mags at the time, bought anything by Asimov, Clarke, and
Heinlein, plus whatever else I could afford by Niven et al.

So I'm rarely surprised by anything new under the sun. The only thing I
never saw coming was just how ugly modern U.S. coins could get. ;-)

mazorj

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"Bruce Remick" <rem...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>> parts. Rather, bone marrow heads the list�priced at $23 million, based on
>> 1,000 grams at $23,000 per gram. DNA can fetch $9.7 million, while
>> extracting antibodies can bring $7.3 million. A lung is worth $116,400, a
>> kidney $91,400 and a heart $57,000."
>
> Couldn't we then be our own adequate collateral for a home loan? Default?
> Okay, take some marrow. Or better yet, how about a DNA swab?

I was going to mention that but didn't want to be crass.

mazorj

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"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
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Never accept an offer to play "pull my finger" with a proctologist.

Bruce Remick

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"mazorj" <maz...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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I hope you're not going to suggest an alternative.


Bruce Remick

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"mazorj" <maz...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>>> valuable body parts. Rather, bone marrow heads the list�priced at $23
>>> million, based on 1,000 grams at $23,000 per gram. DNA can fetch $9.7
>>> million, while extracting antibodies can bring $7.3 million. A lung is
>>> worth $116,400, a kidney $91,400 and a heart $57,000."
>>
>> Couldn't we then be our own adequate collateral for a home loan?
>> Default? Okay, take some marrow. Or better yet, how about a DNA swab?
>
> I was going to mention that but didn't want to be crass.
>

Hey, times are tough for many people and one has to consider all options.
With a little marrow, a bit of DNA, and a few spare antibodies, a person
could post enough collateral for a nice place on the lake. Or maybe even
acquire that unique 1906/9 Lincoln pennie.


mazorj

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"Bruce Remick" <rem...@cox.net> wrote in message
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I have one, but having already trashed the decorum of the group, I won't go
there.

mazorj

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"Bruce Remick" <rem...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>>>> valuable body parts. Rather, bone marrow heads the list�priced at $23
>>>> million, based on 1,000 grams at $23,000 per gram. DNA can fetch $9.7
>>>> million, while extracting antibodies can bring $7.3 million. A lung is
>>>> worth $116,400, a kidney $91,400 and a heart $57,000."
>>>
>>> Couldn't we then be our own adequate collateral for a home loan?
>>> Default? Okay, take some marrow. Or better yet, how about a DNA swab?
>>
>> I was going to mention that but didn't want to be crass.
>
> Hey, times are tough for many people and one has to consider all options.
> With a little marrow, a bit of DNA, and a few spare antibodies, a person
> could post enough collateral for a nice place on the lake. Or maybe even
> acquire that unique 1906/9 Lincoln pennie.

Or pay his own medical bills. :-D

Mr. Jaggers

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Decorum? This group? Are you on the right board?

James
'we don't need no stinkin' decorum'


Bruce Remick

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"mazorj" <maz...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>>>>> valuable body parts. Rather, bone marrow heads the list�priced at $23
>>>>> million, based on 1,000 grams at $23,000 per gram. DNA can fetch $9.7
>>>>> million, while extracting antibodies can bring $7.3 million. A lung is
>>>>> worth $116,400, a kidney $91,400 and a heart $57,000."
>>>>
>>>> Couldn't we then be our own adequate collateral for a home loan?
>>>> Default? Okay, take some marrow. Or better yet, how about a DNA swab?
>>>
>>> I was going to mention that but didn't want to be crass.
>>
>> Hey, times are tough for many people and one has to consider all options.
>> With a little marrow, a bit of DNA, and a few spare antibodies, a person
>> could post enough collateral for a nice place on the lake. Or maybe even
>> acquire that unique 1906/9 Lincoln pennie.
>
> Or pay his own medical bills. :-D

I thought that will become illegal, what with everyone required to be
covered by health insurance, unless they can't afford it, in which case the
govt will keep giving them our tax money until they can. Can you afford it
now? Can you afford it NOW? If you CAN afford it but still refuse buy
health insurance, you will be sent to an Asian village in Israel until you
one day get sick. Then you will be rescued by Rush Limbaugh reps and will
be required to appear on his radio show for a full week, followed by
blackboard sessions with Glenn Beck. See what you started?


mazorj

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"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
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> mazorj wrote:
>> "Bruce Remick" <rem...@cox.net> wrote in message

...


>>> I hope you're not going to suggest an alternative.
>>
>> I have one, but having already trashed the decorum of the group, I
>> won't go there.
>
> Decorum? This group? Are you on the right board?
>
> James
> 'we don't need no stinkin' decorum'

The extent to which most newsgroups cling to fancied pretensions of
propriety and decorum would make Blanche DuBois blanche in astonishment at
their self-deceiving folly.

None of them is likely to ever get off that streetcar.

- mazorj
"In newsgroups, I have never depended on the kindness of strangers."

mazorj

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"Bruce Remick" <rem...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>>>>>> valuable body parts. Rather, bone marrow heads the list�priced at $23
>>>>>> million, based on 1,000 grams at $23,000 per gram. DNA can fetch
>>>>>> $9.7 million, while extracting antibodies can bring $7.3 million. A
>>>>>> lung is worth $116,400, a kidney $91,400 and a heart $57,000."
>>>>>
>>>>> Couldn't we then be our own adequate collateral for a home loan?
>>>>> Default? Okay, take some marrow. Or better yet, how about a DNA swab?
>>>>
>>>> I was going to mention that but didn't want to be crass.
>>>
>>> Hey, times are tough for many people and one has to consider all
>>> options. With a little marrow, a bit of DNA, and a few spare antibodies,
>>> a person could post enough collateral for a nice place on the lake. Or
>>> maybe even acquire that unique 1906/9 Lincoln pennie.
>>
>> Or pay his own medical bills. :-D
>
> I thought that will become illegal, what with everyone required to be
> covered by health insurance, unless they can't afford it, in which case
> the govt will keep giving them our tax money until they can. Can you
> afford it now? Can you afford it NOW? If you CAN afford it but still
> refuse buy health insurance, you will be sent to an Asian village in
> Israel until you one day get sick. Then you will be rescued by Rush
> Limbaugh reps and will be required to appear on his radio show for a full
> week, followed by blackboard sessions with Glenn Beck. See what you
> started?

I foresee doctors in Mexico and parts of Southeast Asia accepting payment in
kind. Hip surgery in exchange for scraping out a few grams of bone marrow
while they're at it. Harvesting a kidney while they're in there repairing a
torn bladder. Hey, it's a win-win situation.

Well, it will be if Limbaugh hands over his vocal cords in exchange for
full-body liposuction.

Petronius

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Jan 30, 2010, 12:18:40 PM1/30/10
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> Well, it will be if Limbaugh hands over his vocal cords in exchange for
> full-body liposuction.

Wouldn't change much, he talks out of ass anyway...


mazorj

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"Petronius" <P...@ron.ius> wrote in message
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>> Well, it will be if Limbaugh hands over his vocal cords in exchange
>> for full-body liposuction.
>
> Wouldn't change much, he talks out of ass anyway...

Damn, I forgot about that.


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