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US Mint Circulating $1 Direct Ship - 2009 Native American $1 and Harrison availability?

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Johnny Doe

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Feb 28, 2009, 11:49:34 AM2/28/09
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The Direct Ship section of the Mint site lists the 2009 Native
American coins as 'not available', and doesn't list the 2009 Harrison
dollars at all. Does anyone know if these coins are going to become
'available' or are they just gone? Why would the mint pull the 2009
Native American dollars when they are required to mint so many
millions of them? I would rather pick up a box of each from the mint
at face than have to buy individual rolls at $11 over face each, plus
shipping.

Johnny Doe

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Feb 28, 2009, 12:26:48 PM2/28/09
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In addition, the one bank in my local area that ordered the
presidential dollars in the past was told by their supplier that they
can no longer provide full boxes of them, only mixed junk rolls of $1
coins. So, they won't order any more, and a light goes out for local
collectors.

Michael G. Koerner

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Feb 28, 2009, 12:57:08 PM2/28/09
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I ordered a $250 box of 2009 Sacs about a month ago and got it about two weeks
ago. All non-standout business-strike 'P' mints.

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Jud

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Feb 28, 2009, 9:35:48 PM2/28/09
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Michael G. Koerner wrote:

> I ordered a $250 box of 2009 Sacs about a month ago and got it about two weeks
> ago. All non-standout business-strike 'P' mints.
>
> --

AFAIK, you can still get the WH Harrison dollars at the bank, I got
mine there last week. OTOH, I have not been able to find the
Sacagaweas.
PS Want to sell me a roll Mike?

"Roßert G. Schaffrath"

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Feb 28, 2009, 9:38:03 PM2/28/09
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For the past two years I was able to get the latest Presibux coin on the
day of issue. With the Harrison dollar, my usual sources had to wait a
week to get them. This does not bode well for the future of the program.

I was reluctant to get involved with the program but relented when GW
came out. Now I am beginning to wonder if they will be able to finish
it. I have already decided not to spend much time on the National Parks
quarters as it is just getting ridiculous now.

Michael G. Koerner

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Feb 28, 2009, 11:21:02 PM2/28/09
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I unrolled them all and tossed them (except for the best one for my own files)
into my changemaking reserve for work, but I could probably dig 25 of them out
and re-roll them. They all will, of course, now have varying degrees of my
finger schlar on them, though. YMMV.

I mainly bought them 'factory direct' in order to have a steady, reliable and
economical supply for making change at work.

Dave Allured

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Mar 1, 2009, 11:01:40 AM3/1/09
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Johnny Doe wrote:
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> The Direct Ship section of the Mint site lists the 2009 Native
> American coins as 'not available', and doesn't list the 2009 Harrison
> dollars at all. Does anyone know if these coins are going to become
> 'available' or are they just gone? Why would the mint pull the 2009
> Native American dollars when they are required to mint so many
> millions of them?

No real data. My best guess is that the first batch of Natives sold out
faster than expected, and the Mint will "get around" to making more some
time within the next few months. Uncurrent mintage figures on the Mint
website suggest that only a small part of the 2009 Native mintage has
been made so far.

Harrisons: My guess is that their debut on direct ship is delayed, but
they *will* be up in another month or so. I can imagine two reasons.
One, wait for customers to get early Harrisons through banks, which I
think is much less expensive for the Mint. We are still in the Harrison
release window. Two, enhance sales of profitable roll sets via the
Mint's catalog sales.

> I would rather pick up a box of each from the mint at face than
> have to buy individual rolls at $11 over face each, plus shipping.

Most dollar coin enthusiasts want the same thing. It's too bad that
serving this modest need is no priority for the Mint, Federal Reserve,
and banks.

--Dave

Dave Allured

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Mar 1, 2009, 11:27:25 AM3/1/09
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Call every other bank in the area and try again, politely, to order new
presidential dollars. The Federal Reserve website indicates that they
are still supporting the commemorative coin program. I am getting
amazingly contradictory results from different local banks.

Also try contacting someone at your local coin club for more local bank
intel.

--Dave

Bruce Remick

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Mar 1, 2009, 11:33:23 AM3/1/09
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"Dave Allured" <nos...@nospom.com> wrote in message
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I had the same experience. My local BofAm bank had been getting each new
roll within 2-3 weeks of issue, but then they became less dependable. So I
checked two other local banks and found a Wachovia branch that regularly had
the new rolls available within a week or so of issue. I haven't asked about
the Sac dollar rolls since I don't care about saving those. Checking around
sure beats paying $42 for each $25 dollar roll that the dealer ads
advertise.

Paul Anderson

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Mar 5, 2009, 1:10:56 PM3/5/09
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In article <qosiq49nqgomp86uk...@4ax.com>,
Johnny Doe <n...@home.net> wrote:

The bank that always orders a box of one thousand Presidential dollars
for me got the William Henry Harrison coins on time and I'm already
spending them.

I got five hundred 2009 Sacajaweas from the Direct Ship program but I
think that's all I can order for the year.

Paul

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Michael G. Koerner

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Mar 5, 2009, 1:32:56 PM3/5/09
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When I ordered my $250 box a month or so ago, the USMint's website showed a
$5K limit on the Sacs. It was still $500/design for the Prezzies.

Paul Anderson

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Mar 5, 2009, 3:17:51 PM3/5/09
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In article <d-CdnXoO5ZRNhy3U...@ntd.net>,

"Michael G. Koerner" <mgk...@dataex.com> wrote:

> When I ordered my $250 box a month or so ago, the USMint's website
> showed a $5K limit on the Sacs. It was still $500/design for the
> Prezzies.

Well, yes, it is! Thank you for pointing that out! Either the
information has changed or I misread the information originally.

The page at
<http://catalog.usmint.gov/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?cata
logId=10001&storeId=10001&productId=14692&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=2
7238> says:

"Orders are limited to twenty boxes ($5000) per coin issue."

I assume I don't have to order all those at once, but could sprinkle my
orders throughout the year.

Dave Allured

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Mar 6, 2009, 11:32:34 AM3/6/09
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Paul Anderson wrote:
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> In article <d-CdnXoO5ZRNhy3U...@ntd.net>,
> "Michael G. Koerner" <mgk...@dataex.com> wrote:
>
> > When I ordered my $250 box a month or so ago, the USMint's website
> > showed a $5K limit on the Sacs. It was still $500/design for the
> > Prezzies.
>
> Well, yes, it is! Thank you for pointing that out! Either the
> information has changed or I misread the information originally.

Yes, they changed the limit without notice in late January IIRC. The
change is not consistent between web pages. I would assume that the
main catalog page for this item is most current.

--Dave

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