Re: NYCoinMart & PCI Coins
Steve
preparing to sue
people who posted about them online. Got this letter from them over
the weekend. I have
sent a copy to the ANA collector defense fund and my attorney. Anyone
else who gets
a similar letter I suggest do the same.
From: NYCoinMart - Tech / IT Team <te...@nycoinmart.com>
To: coing...@yahoo.com
Cc: le...@nycoinmart.com
Sent: Fri, January 7, 2011 2:09:34 PM
Subject: ATTN: Forum Posts Regarding NYCOINMART & Managing Principles
Attention Mr. Steven Spradlin
Greetings from the NYCoinMart IT/Tech team.
Upon recent inspection and random key word searches of the internet
several members of our tech team have discovered a sequence of forum
and blog posts that can only be described as misleading and
defamatory. While we here at NYCoinMart embrace the internet and all
its potential for purposes of commerce as well as intellectual
property sharing, we also realize the dangerous potential of
misleading information being broadcast. Please see the below
referenced posts: These were discovered several days ago and have also
been brought to the attention of the NYCoinMart legal team for further
review.
To address specific issues brought about in the posts: The 888 number
(888-780-2646) is in fact registered to NYCoinMart. The location of
the business, as the namesake would suggest, is in fact in New York.
We are not sure how you arrived at the conclusion that NYCoinMart was
somehow a direct marketing company based in Minnesota. However these
statements, as well as others like it is precisely why we here in IT
did in fact have to bring this to the attention of in house council.
In so far as the direct reference to NYCoinMart specific management
members as well as principles, again, while we here do respect the
free speech nature of the world wide web, we must log this public
forum post due to its defamatory, misleading, and harmful nature.
The NYCoinMart IT Team has been asked to notify those responsible for
these, and other similar forum posts to remove said items through
voluntary means within the next seventy two hours. Beyond that period,
the NYCoinMart IT team will take the necessary measures to remove the
aforementioned posts through alternative means. The NYCoinMart IT Team
would also like to advise that all IP Addresses and MAC numbers
associated with the creators of these posts have been logged to a data
file for future reference if so requested by our in house council. We
do apologize for any inconvenience though as citizens of the internet,
we trust you understand how harmful deliberately misleading and
defamatory information can be when posted in public venues. We thank
you for your consideration and understanding and would be happy to
answer any questions or concerns you may have. Please feel free to
contact us using the details included in the signature below.
Finally, NYCoinMart IT/Legal teams are obligated to inform those
individuals whose IP/MAC numbers are associated with the initial
creation of these threads that Google/MindBRIX Forums (Santa Monica,
CA) has been informed of the pending situation and have agreed to lend
necessary support where necessary.
Regards.
NYCoinMart IT/Tech Team
94 Gardiners Ave.
Suite 337
Levittown, NY 11756
Bremick
"PYS Numismatics" <angryyou...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1f956278-37ef-4467...@k11g2000vbf.googlegroups.com...
> There have been some posts recently regarding both NYCoinMart as well
> as the PCI Grading Service. Specifically, there have been some
> collectors on here that have been confused regarding the authenticity
> of some of the coins associated with PCI. First off what I can say is
> that having done business with the guys over at NYCoinMart for several
> years, while I can only speak personally, I must say that they have
> always provided me with top notch service. I know for fact that the
> principles behind this organization both have been in the business for
> quite some time and have always been very helpful. In so far as the
> pieces they sell, again, I can only speak personally but I have never
> once been disappointed. In fact their photography has appeared to have
> become signifigantly better and what I can say is that when I purchase
> a coin from them I know well in advance precisely what to expect when
> the post man shows up.
> In so far as the confusion regarding the PCI grading service. What
> everyone needs to keep in mind is that as one poster already stated on
> here, every business needs to start somewhere. Surley PCGS and the
> like started small as well. Again, I have yet to be disappointed with
> these guys and have to say that dealing with them has been a pleasure.
> Please keep in mind that I have been a very serious hobby collector
> for quite some time now and have some across my share of miscreants
> both online and at the shows. NYCoinMart is certainly the kind of
> business that you want to have around because of their access to some
> really nice inventory, especially their Morgans and similar.
Just curious. Whom are you defending here, PCI grading service or
NYCoinMart? I'm confused. Maybe I'm missing something, but what in
particular has one to do with the other? While claiming to be only
speaking personally, you seem to be discounting some alleged claims and
"confusion" of others, enough so that you felt the need to post here in
defense of these two firms. Could you elaborate on the so-called confusion
regarding the PCI grading service? As for NYCoinMart, I am glad you have
found them to be a pleasure to do business with.
mazorj
these wankers, because if you log a complaint anywhere on the Internet, it
appears that they might sic their lawyers on you.
You folks might want to consider changing your name to PMS Numismatics -
that's the image you're projecting here.
Jerry Dennis
> Looks like your favorite company is pulling an "Accugrade" and
> preparing to sue
> people who posted about them online. Got this letter from them over
> the weekend. I have
> sent a copy to the ANA collector defense fund and my attorney. Anyone
> else who gets
> a similar letter I suggest do the same.
(NY Coin Mart's letter snipped)
Seems the original post was deleted. Regardless, I got the same e-
mail. I was also the one that said their phone number listed in the
ebay auctions in question at the time (888-801-9744) was, in fact,
listed to a Minnesota direct marketing company. There were originally
four auctions in question, but these two are the only two remaining as
"completed listings."
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230549780505
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260689625280
Just for laughs, I pulled up one of their current auctions.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260714014663
The number listed (866-652-8756) isn't affiliated with NY Coin Mart
either. In fact, as near as I could determine, it's not affiliated
with anybody. I wrote a nice e-mail in response, and it was returned
as undeliverable. As far as I'm concerned, the entire conversation is
stupid and a moot point. I've got better things to do than worry
about trying to proof read some company's ebay auctions.
Jerry
Steve
>
> Seems the original post was deleted. Regardless, I got the same e-
> mail. I was also the one that said their phone number listed in the
> ebay auctions in question at the time (888-801-9744) was, in fact,
> listed to a Minnesota direct marketing company. There were originally
> four auctions in question, but these two are the only two remaining as
> "completed listings."
>
know about this company have claimed NY Coin Mart had brought PCI
and
were using the old style 10 digit slabs, but that NYCOINMART on ebay
didn't have anything to do with the NYCOINMART.COM, except
both had a Kevin as the owner...until the eBay seller changed to
VINCE.
People on the VAM board with CLEAR PHOTO EVIDENCE of fakery,
that were quite willing to speculate what was going on suddenly
clammed up,
By the way, if anyone needs it, here is the post from earlier today
which
now seems to have disappeared
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Subject: NYCoinMart & PCI Coins
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Jerry Dennis
> By the way, if anyone needs it, here is the post from earlier today
> which now seems to have disappeared
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Steve, thanks for providing the original post.
Jerry