Collectors scorn Obama commemorative "coins"
stonej
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Arizona Coin Collector
"stonej" <sto...@mail.lib.msu.edu> wrote in message
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> They are not really coins of course...
>
> http://www.courant.com/news/politics/hc-obamaprods.artnov28,0,5174286.story
Hello
I am aware of only one proof coin issued by the
United States Mint as a commemorative coin for
President James K Polk.
Does the United States Mint issue a commemorative
coin for every new president sworn in?
Edwin Johnston
I don't know of any proof commemorative coin issued by the US Mint for
President Polk.
And I don't understand the followup question you have at all.
Arizona Coin Collector
"Edwin Johnston" <e...@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
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>
> I don't know of any proof commemorative coin issued by the US Mint for
> President Polk.
>
> And I don't understand the followup question you have at all.
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Hello
What follow-up question? I only ask one
question.
On the presentation piece for President
James k Polk.
If you go to the newsgroup
"alt.binaries.pictures.numismatic", and search
for my earlier posting, you will see both the
coin image and story as well. The posting was
send and posted on Monday, October 13, 2008.
The subject line is:
"Image -- 2.5 Million Dollar New Orleans Proof Coin Displayed At Old U.S.
Mint"
The link to the news story is still active.
The Yahoo Image Link is no longer active.
Below is the actual story from KATC-TV.
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FROM:
http://www.katc.com/Global/story.asp?S=9165853
Rare gold coin to be on display at old mint
NEW ORLEANS -- Talk about an investment in gold. This one is
insured for $2.5 million, although it contains only a
half-ounce of the precious metal.
It's an extremely rare 1844 proof $10 gold coin struck at the
U.S. Mint in New Orleans as a presentation piece for President
James Polk. Collectors believe it is one-of-a-kind.
Now the property of an anonymous Florida collector, the coin,
known as an Eagle, has been brought back to New Orleans to be
put on display at the Old U.S. Mint when the museum reopens
on Nov. 1 after a brief closure to install exhibits.
New Orleans coin dealer Paul Hollis made arrangements to have
the coin displayed in the city of its origin.
"You will never get another one," Hollis said.
Like many rare coins, the exact history of how this Eagle
was passed around is cloudy. Struck on specially prepared,
highly polished dies, presentation proofs were given during
the 1800s to various VIPs such as dignitaries and heads of
state. Well-connected collectors also managed to get a few.
Most were prepared at the Philadelphia mint, while few came
out of branch mints such as New Orleans, which operated from
1838 to 1909. The distinctive "O" mint mark on the reverse
under a heraldic eagle motif identifies the coin as of New
Orleans origin.
During its operation, the New Orleans mint produced a wide
range of silver and gold coins, including the king of
circulating U.S. gold coins, the $20 Double Eagle.
The New Orleans mint was one of three in the South. The
others were in Charlotte, N.C., and Dahlonega, Ga. Of the
three, only the New Orleans mint reopened after the Civil War.
Hollis said the New Orleans-produced 1844 Eagle surfaced at
a sale in the early 1900s and records indicate it may have
traded for as little as $11. It was later owned by U.S.
Treasury Secretary William Woodin, who served under
President Franklin Roosevelt and played a key role in the
United States seizing gold and gold coins in 1933 as the
country abandoned the international gold standard.
It also was Woodin who cut an exception to the seizure
for rare gold coins.
Hollis puts a ballpark value on the Eagle at $2 million
to $2.7 million. The owner has insured it for $2.5 million.
"It certainly is a seven-figure item," said Scott
Schechter of Sarasota, Fla.-based Numismatic Guaranty
Corp., who certified the coin's authenticity.
Hollis said he carried the coin in his hands on a flight
from Florida to New Orleans, where security officers
accompanied both to the Eagle's new home at the mint.
The mint was closed for about two years after Hurricane
Katrina struck in 2005 and reopened in October 2007
after a $5 million renovation. In addition to exhibits
dedicated to the building's time as a mint, the museum
also includes archived maps and documents dating back
to Louisiana's days as a French and Spanish possession.
The museum's jazz collection, including sheet music,
photographs, records, manuscripts and instruments from
some of the city's earliest jazz musicians, is being
overhauled and is expected to return to the mint in 2010.
Phil DeMayo
wrote:
> "stonej" <sto...@mail.lib.msu.edu> wrote in message
>
> news:f2d6eec7-2005-4981...@f13g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
>
> > They are not really coins of course...
>
>
> Hello
>
> I am aware of only one proof coin issued by the
> United States Mint as a commemorative coin for
> President James K Polk.
>
> Does the United States Mint issue a commemorative
> coin for every new president sworn in?
You seem to have a habit of answering questions that were never
asked....thus totally confusing the issue.
The original post in this thread has nothing to do with a US Mint
issued coin, but a privately struck medallion honoring President-Elect
Obama (one of many such pieces of junk hitting the market).
Additionally, your followup post on James K. Polk involves a proof
version of a standard US gold piece that was struck to present to Polk
as a gift....that's waht they mean by "presentation piece"....there
was no commemorative coin.
The Mint does however, have a series of medals commemorating all of
the Presidents. You can find them in the Mint's online catalog.
Arizona Coin Collector
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You seem to have a habit of answering questions that were never
asked....thus totally confusing the issue.
The original post in this thread has nothing to do with a US Mint
issued coin, but a privately struck medallion honoring President-Elect
Obama (one of many such pieces of junk hitting the market).
Additionally, your followup post on James K. Polk involves a proof
version of a standard US gold piece that was struck to present to Polk
as a gift....that's waht they mean by "presentation piece"....there
was no commemorative coin.
The Mint does however, have a series of medals commemorating all of
the Presidents. You can find them in the Mint's online catalog.
>>"Edwin Johnston" <e...@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
>>news:492f7879$0$7343$a726...@news.hal-pc.org...
>>
>> I don't know of any proof commemorative coin issued by the US Mint for
>> President Polk.
>>
>> And I don't understand the followup question you have at all.
Hello
The remarks above "And I don't understand the followup question you have at
all.",
was in a form of a question by Edwin Johnson. While there should have been a
question mark at the end of his sentence, it does appear to be a question
none
the less.
I responded to Edwin Johnson question with a question.
It is true that the choice of words were not correct. I should have not used
"commemorative" in my orginal question. I should have used "Presentation
Piece"
instead.
I was aware that the orginal story by stoniej was not about the U.S. Mint.
I see no problem about asking questions.
Edwin Johnston
I'll have to stand with Phil DeMayo on this one.
Paul Ciszek
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Even *I* know that the US only puts dead people on coins.
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Ken Barr
wrote:
> In article <SM-dnWICLsHU-7LU...@earthlink.com>,
> Arizona Coin Collector <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
> >
> >"stonej" <sto...@mail.lib.msu.edu> wrote in message
> >news:f2d6eec7-2005-4981...@f13g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
> >
> >> They are not really coins of course...
> >>
> >> http://www.courant.com/news/politics/hc-obamaprods.artnov28,0,5174286.sto
> >> ry
> >
> >Hello
> >
> >I am aware of only one proof coin issued by the
> >United States Mint as a commemorative coin for
> >President James K Polk.
> >
> >Does the United States Mint issue a commemorative
> >coin for every new president sworn in?
>
> Even *I* know that the US only puts dead people on coins.
Eunice Shriver on line two for you ...
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San Jose, CA 95152 (souvenir cards, MPC, Hickey Bros tokens)
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Michael Benveniste
>> Even *I* know that the US only puts dead people on coins.
>
>Eunice Shriver on line two for you ...
Don't forget FDR. He was placed on a United States coin in 1936 while
he was still President.
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Arizona Coin Collector
"Michael Benveniste" <m...@murkyether.com> wrote in message
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Franklin Delano Roosevelt died on Thursday, April 12, 1945.
The 32 President appeared on the first Roosevelt Dime in
1946. The Roosevelt dime was released to the public on
Wednesday, January 30, 1946.
Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dime_(United_States_coin)
.
Michael Benveniste
<nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>Franklin Delano Roosevelt died on Thursday, April 12, 1945.
Correct.
>The 32 President appeared on the first Roosevelt Dime in
>1946. The Roosevelt dime was released to the public on
>Wednesday, January 30, 1946.
That's also correct, but before that he was on a 1936 United States
coin along with Manuel L. Quezon, who was also alive at the time.
http://home.comcast.net/~webwhat/1936Peso.jpg
Richard L. Hall
> On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:53:23 -0700, "Arizona Coin Collector"
> <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>Franklin Delano Roosevelt died on Thursday, April 12, 1945.
>
> Correct.
>
>>The 32 President appeared on the first Roosevelt Dime in
>>1946. The Roosevelt dime was released to the public on
>>Wednesday, January 30, 1946.
>
> That's also correct, but before that he was on a 1936 United States
> coin along with Manuel L. Quezon, who was also alive at the time.
>
> http://home.comcast.net/~webwhat/1936Peso.jpg
This coin is also listed in the Redbook under Philippine coins.
There is also Sen. Joseph T. Robinson on the Arkansas Centennial half-dollar
minted in 1936. Sen. Robinson died in 1937.
And there is also Sen. Carter Glass of Virginia on the Lynchburgh, VA
Sesquicentennial half-dollar also minted in 1936. Sen. Glass died in 1947.
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Richard
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Michael Benveniste
<richl...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> http://home.comcast.net/~webwhat/1936Peso.jpg
>
>This coin is also listed in the Redbook under Philippine coins.
Yep. It was minted during the first year of the planned 10-year
transition period for full Philippine independence. Legally, the
Philippines were an insular area of the United States during that
time.
>There is also Sen. Joseph T. Robinson on the Arkansas Centennial half-dollar
>minted in 1936. Sen. Robinson died in 1937.
>
>And there is also Sen. Carter Glass of Virginia on the Lynchburgh, VA
>Sesquicentennial half-dollar also minted in 1936. Sen. Glass died in 1947.
Frank Murphy, later a Supreme Court justice, also appeared on a 1936
Peso with Quezon while both were alive. But that's a different trivia
question.
Frank Provasek
wrote:
> I am aware of only one proof coin issued by the
> United States Mint as a commemorative coin for
> President James K Polk.
>
> Does the United States Mint issue a commemorative
> coin for every new president sworn in?
These types of nonsense questions are typical troll behavior,
I would suggest killfiling Arizona Coin Collector, as you are wasting
your time
with him or her.
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>These types of nonsense questions are typical troll behavior, I would
>suggest killfiling Arizona Coin Collector, as you are wasting your time
>with him or her.
That's pretty good coming from the king of the sock puppets.
Anyway, why do you continue to refuse to explain why eBay stripped you
of your "Power Seller" status?
What are you trying to hide?
Ned
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stonej <sto...@mail.lib.msu.edu> wrote:
>
> They are not really coins of course...
>
> http://www.courant.com/news/politics/hc-obamaprods.artnov28,0,5174286.story
Even more scorned: http://snipr.com/MoreScorned
Christopher Helms
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> 4d181f206...@f13g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>> >http://www.courant.com/news/politics/hc-obamaprods.artnov28,0,5174286...
Never buy "commemorative" coins that are advertised. Or any coins you
see on TV. They're almost always a rip off. When I was collecting,
there was some dickhead selling common date Morgan Dollars in VF-XF
Condition on TV for almost a hundred dollars each when you could walk
into any decent coin shop and get them for twenty-five or so and
probably in a lot better condition.