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yawnmoth

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Aug 2, 2009, 1:30:07 PM8/2/09
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatican_euro_coins#Circulating_Mintage_quantities

According to that, Vatican City euros have only been minted for
general circulation twice - in 2002 and 2008. Do these circulating
euros have any features to distinguish them from their mint set
counter parts? For US coins, circulating coins have either D or P
mint marks while ones produced for mint sets have the W mint mark. Do
euros do anything similar?

Also, what about the €2 commemorative coins? Are the Vatican City
ones only produced for sets, as well, or are they minted for general
circulation and not counted in the above numbers?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_banknotes#Specification

Are there running production totals? The US Bureau of Engraving of
Printing releases monthly production totals... does the European
Union?

Peter

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Aug 2, 2009, 3:48:48 PM8/2/09
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On Aug 2, 1:30 pm, yawnmoth <terra1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatican_euro_coins#Circulating_Mintage_q...

Not sure I understand your question. The Vatican Euro coins have one
side that that distinguishes their origin as the Vatican. The other
side is a standard for the Euro of that denomination. It is a pretty
small place, and probably has only one mint. They do produce some non
circulating coins (primarily for tourists, but they are happy to sell
to anyone). Some of these have some precious metal content, although
I sort of doubt that this is sufficient to account for the price.

My impression is that coins, trinkets and medals are a big business
there.

yawnmoth

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Aug 2, 2009, 5:26:18 PM8/2/09
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On Aug 2, 8:48 pm, Peter <w2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 2, 1:30 pm, yawnmoth <terra1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatican_euro_coins#Circulating_Mintage_q...
>
> > According to that, Vatican City euros have only been minted for
> > general circulation twice - in 2002 and 2008.  Do these circulating
> > euros have any features to distinguish them from their mint set
> > counter parts?  For US coins, circulating coins have either D or P
> > mint marks while ones produced for mint sets have the W mint mark.  Do
> > euros do anything similar?
>
> > Also, what about the €2 commemorative coins?  Are the Vatican City
> > ones only produced for sets, as well, or are they minted for general
> > circulation and not counted in the above numbers?
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_banknotes#Specification
>
> > Are there running production totals?  The US Bureau of Engraving of
> > Printing releases monthly production totals...  does the European
> > Union?
>
> Not sure I understand your question.  The Vatican Euro coins have one
> side that that distinguishes their origin as the Vatican.  The other
> side is a standard for the Euro of that denomination.  It is a pretty
> small place, and probably has only one mint.  They do produce some non
> circulating coins (primarily for tourists, but they are happy to sell
> to anyone).

Well, like I said, are circulating coins and non-circulating coins
distinguishable from one another?

US bullion coins and their collector equivalents are both minted at
the same mint - the West Point mint - but only the collector bullion
coins have the 'W' mint mark.

That they're minted at the same mint does not mean necessarily mean
that coins intended for circulation and coins produced primarily for
collectors are going to be indistinguishable. US coin production
serves as precedent for this.

Arizona Coin Collector

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Aug 2, 2009, 6:01:57 PM8/2/09
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"yawnmoth" <terr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Aug 2, 8:48 pm, Peter <w2...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Aug 2, 1:30 pm, yawnmoth <terra1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatican_euro_coins#Circulating_Mintage_q...
>
> > According to that, Vatican City euros have only been minted for
> > general circulation twice - in 2002 and 2008. Do these circulating
> > euros have any features to distinguish them from their mint set
> > counter parts? For US coins, circulating coins have either D or P
> > mint marks while ones produced for mint sets have the W mint mark. Do
> > euros do anything similar?
>

> > Also, what about the �2 commemorative coins? Are the Vatican City


> > ones only produced for sets, as well, or are they minted for general
> > circulation and not counted in the above numbers?
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_banknotes#Specification
>
> > Are there running production totals? The US Bureau of Engraving of
> > Printing releases monthly production totals... does the European
> > Union?
>
> Not sure I understand your question. The Vatican Euro coins have one
> side that that distinguishes their origin as the Vatican. The other
> side is a standard for the Euro of that denomination. It is a pretty
> small place, and probably has only one mint. They do produce some non
> circulating coins (primarily for tourists, but they are happy to sell
> to anyone).

Well, like I said, are circulating coins and non-circulating coins
distinguishable from one another?

US bullion coins and their collector equivalents are both minted at
the same mint - the West Point mint - but only the collector bullion
coins have the 'W' mint mark.

That they're minted at the same mint does not mean necessarily mean
that coins intended for circulation and coins produced primarily for
collectors are going to be indistinguishable. US coin production
serves as precedent for this.


Hello

The link below may help on the coin issue.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identifying_marks_on_euro_coins

I would direct your other question on Paper
notes to the two newsgroups, "rec.collecting.papermoney"
and "rec.collecting.paper-money".

..

oly

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Aug 2, 2009, 6:26:53 PM8/2/09
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On Aug 2, 4:01 pm, "Arizona Coin Collector" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
> "yawnmoth" <terra1...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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> news:e9e8cd04-6b44-48c3...@a26g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>
> On Aug 2, 8:48 pm, Peter <w2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 2, 1:30 pm, yawnmoth <terra1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatican_euro_coins#Circulating_Mintage_q...
>
> > > According to that, Vatican City euros have only been minted for
> > > general circulation twice - in 2002 and 2008. Do these circulating
> > > euros have any features to distinguish them from their mint set
> > > counter parts? For US coins, circulating coins have either D or P
> > > mint marks while ones produced for mint sets have the W mint mark. Do
> > > euros do anything similar?
>
> > > Also, what about the €2 commemorative coins? Are the Vatican City
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That's an excellent article that you've linked. I would have never
thought to look for such a thing.

Unfortunately, euro coins after the overwhelming initial issue (2002)
are still pretty darned scarce in the USA, so it's hard to have a lot
of examples to look at.

Nobody's going to circulate a Vactican City euro piece except by
mistake.

oly

yawnmoth

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Aug 3, 2009, 6:56:15 PM8/3/09
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...which kinda makes one wonder why they'd even bother releasing coins
intended for circulation. It seems like some random bank teller could,
upon seeing what they had, make a cash withdrawal for several thousand
dollars - a withdrawal in which they requested all of the Vatican City
euro coins.

Of course, I'm still curious about the commemorative ones, too - are
they just as hard to find as the regular issue coins?

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