Please help with MS coin grading

[Ray]

I have some gold coins that I bought 50 years ago. The $20 coins were
sold as uncirculated. At that time there were not 10 different grades
of uncirculated. I can pretty much tell the differences between
various grades of circulated coins with a grading book but no clue on
various grades of MS. Looking at the pricing guides there can be
quite a difference in the price, especially in the 1853 $20. I paid
$50 for the double eagles. Pictures of the coins are posted in Small
format and Large format.

For small format:

http://ray80538.home.comcast.net/~ray80538/Coinss/coins.html

For large format

http://ray80538.home.comcast.net/~ray80538/Coins/coins.html

Any opinions on the grade would be appreciated.

Thanks

Ray

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On 8-Jan-2011, Ray <R...@ray.com> wrote:

> X-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 21:50:34 UTC (s02-b50.iad)

I do not do grading for living. I hope you meant $50 each. Your photography
is MS-65. I would say the 1901 AU58, flat ear and curl. The 1932 AU58, flat
hair, flat wing. The 1853 MS60. The 1927, AU58, rub marks. That said I think
PCGS would grade them, 1901 MS62, 1932, MS-61, 1853, MS-64, 1927, AU-58. All
with CAC stickers.

[Frank Provasek]

I would guess that the 1901 $10 is MS64

1853 $20 MS64

the others MS60 to MS62

Your 1853 $20 could easily be a $40,000 plus coin.

The 1901 and 1853 should be certified by PCGS or NGC, or if you are
selling them, submitted though a major coin auction house such as
Stack's or Heritage, which will get them certified for you.

[Ray]

Thanks for the responses for the two who responded and the 28 who
looked but did not respond. The two responses were in close
agreement. I looked at the Heritage site and the best I saw was a
MS62. I thought mine looked better than theirs but I still have no
idea of how to objectively come up with 11 different grades of
uncirculated coins.

Yes they were $50 each. At the time I was earning $.50 an hour so it
represented 100 hours of labor. In hindsight I should have bought
more of the 1853's.

Since I don't feel like paying income taxes on the gain they will
continue to reside in the bank safety deposit box. At least now I
have pictures of them to look at.

[Frank Provasek]

On Jan 10, 11:11 am, Ray <R...@ray.com> wrote:
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> Since I don't feel like paying income taxes on the gain they will
> continue to reside in the bank safety deposit box.  At least now I

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You really should get them certified and leave instructions so that
your heirs will not sell them for melt
to the "hotel/motel coin buyers" that run the full page newspaper
ads.

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Frank Provasek Rare Coins www.frankcoins.com
Texas Auction License 11259, Board member of Texas
Coin Dealers Association, Member TNA, ANA, PCGS,
NGC, Industry Council for Tangible Assets - Full Time Since 1991
See my eBay Listings at http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/frankcoins

[Ray]

Thanks for the advice. I will do it. I sent a picture or the 1853
$20 to Heritage Auction. They say it is worth $2000 to $3000.

[Jerry Dennis]

I was one who went to open one of your links and was greeted by this
from my anti-virus program:

"This Web site has exhibited suspicious behavior or is similar to Web
sites that are known sources of malware, viruses and spam. Visiting
this site may put you at risk or compromise your identity or privacy."

I'm sure your site is safe, but I'd rather err on the side of caution.

Jerry, the Paranoid

[Ray]

I don't blame you for being paranoid. That is interesting. Which
anti-virus program are you running? The page is very simple with 4
pictures and a page counter that runs a java script. Does your
anti-virus object to running java? If you are familiar with HTML you
can view the page source before opening a page to see if there are any
lurking within. A page counter not reveal any personal information,
but any time you visit a web page the following is visible to that web
page:

Number of Entries: 5
Entry Page Time: 26th December 2010 20:45:33
Visit Length: Multiple visits spread over more than one day
Browser Safari 5.0
OS MacOSX
Resolution unknown
Returning Visits:
Location: Indianapolis, Indiana, United States
IP Address: Road Runner (71.65.40.193) [Label IP Address]
Entry Page: ray80538.home.comcast.net/~ray80538/Woodwork/woodwork.html
Exit Page: ray80538.home.comcast.net/~ray80538/Woodwork/woodwork.html
Referring URL: 0 No referring link

All this reveals less about you than does your email address which you
have provided with your post.

[Jerry Dennis]

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I'm running Webroot Complete. My son, who recently "graduated" as the
head Geek of my local Geek Squad to some tech honcho at Apple's
flagship store in Boston, cleaned up my computer a couple of years
back, upgraded everything, and installed Webroot. It has no problems
running Javascript. As for all the rest, I plead ignorence. While a
lot of my friends think I'm a whiz at computers, the truth is I'm a
novice. As for being paranoid, I'd like to think I'm being prudent
with personal information. Even my Facebook page is extremely
limited. In fact, you guys here on RCC probably know more about me
than my "friends" on FB.

Jerry