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Bremick
Nov 14, 2011, 8:59:53 AM11/14/11
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I received an email from the US Mint today regarding the status of the
25th Anniv AE 5 Coin Silver set i had ordered a couple days after the
sellout was announced. On the 9th, they sent an email saying I would be
placed on a waiting list in case of a cancellation (do fools still exist?),
and that I would only be notified again if the set was scheduled for
shipment or that my order was cancelled. Today's email contained no
message-- just a backorder number and an expected shipping date of 11/28.
Of course I am taking this as an affirmation that someone cancelled their
order and that I am taking their place. There just may be hope for us
latecomers.
25th Anniv AE 5 Coin Silver set i had ordered a couple days after the
sellout was announced. On the 9th, they sent an email saying I would be
placed on a waiting list in case of a cancellation (do fools still exist?),
and that I would only be notified again if the set was scheduled for
shipment or that my order was cancelled. Today's email contained no
message-- just a backorder number and an expected shipping date of 11/28.
Of course I am taking this as an affirmation that someone cancelled their
order and that I am taking their place. There just may be hope for us
latecomers.
Some Guy
Nov 14, 2011, 10:07:27 AM11/14/11
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"Bremick" <rem...@cox.net> wrote in message news:j9r6sq$6np$1...@dont-email.me...
At any rate, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for your order if I was you.
Then again, you may get lucky - after all people win at the lottery every week!
Rav
Nov 14, 2011, 10:27:10 AM11/14/11
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day of sale). Besides the basic info containing the order number, my
name and the expected ship date (11/28), the "text" of the message
consisted of a single hyphen (-).
Jud
Nov 14, 2011, 10:57:32 AM11/14/11
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On Nov 14, 10:27 am, Rav <Pa...@cais.com> wrote:
> I also got that e-mail this morning (my order was at 5:00PM on the first
> day of sale). Besides the basic info containing the order number, my
> name and the expected ship date (11/28), the "text" of the message
> consisted of a single hyphen (-).
No luck here. Got this email this morning.
> I also got that e-mail this morning (my order was at 5:00PM on the first
> day of sale). Besides the basic info containing the order number, my
> name and the expected ship date (11/28), the "text" of the message
> consisted of a single hyphen (-).
Greetings from the United States Mint.
Thank you for ordering from the United States Mint.
We regret to inform you that the item(s) listed below
are currently sold out. A customer service representative
will be happy to assist you in finding an alternative item.
Oh well.
Bremick
Nov 14, 2011, 11:21:24 AM11/14/11
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"Rav" <Pa...@cais.com> wrote in message news:j9rc0m$4he$1...@dont-email.me...
after seeing the different email JUD received, I'm even more hopeful,
especially noting that single sets are going on eBay for over $700. I still
haven't begun to hold my breath yet though.
Ken Barr
Nov 14, 2011, 2:14:57 PM11/14/11
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In article <j9r6sq$6np$1...@dont-email.me>, "Bremick" <rem...@cox.net>
wrote:
In some cases, the cancellations were NOT at the request of the buyer
... the Mint set a limit of five sets per HOUSEHOLD, and in the past has
proactively searched out people trying to circumvent the limit (using
multiple names, multiple credit cards, minor variations of mailing
addresses, etc.).
When found, the extra orders are cancelled and the sets are reallocated
to people on the waiting list. Depending on how may people tried this
trick, and how many got caught, there could be a lot of happy "waiting
list" people in the next few weeks ...
[For the record, I ordered five sets and received them on Saturday. I
hope to sell a few at the Santa Clara show this weekend and recover my
cost!]
--
Ken Barr Numismatics email: k...@kenbarr.com
P. O. Box 32541 website: http://www.kenbarr.com
San Jose, CA 95152 Coins, currency, exonumia, souvenir cards, etc.
408-272-3247 NEXT SHOW: Expos Santa Clara 11/18-20 (table 829)
wrote:
... the Mint set a limit of five sets per HOUSEHOLD, and in the past has
proactively searched out people trying to circumvent the limit (using
multiple names, multiple credit cards, minor variations of mailing
addresses, etc.).
When found, the extra orders are cancelled and the sets are reallocated
to people on the waiting list. Depending on how may people tried this
trick, and how many got caught, there could be a lot of happy "waiting
list" people in the next few weeks ...
[For the record, I ordered five sets and received them on Saturday. I
hope to sell a few at the Santa Clara show this weekend and recover my
cost!]
--
Ken Barr Numismatics email: k...@kenbarr.com
P. O. Box 32541 website: http://www.kenbarr.com
San Jose, CA 95152 Coins, currency, exonumia, souvenir cards, etc.
408-272-3247 NEXT SHOW: Expos Santa Clara 11/18-20 (table 829)
Mike Benveniste
Nov 14, 2011, 4:04:09 PM11/14/11
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On 11/14/2011 8:59 AM, Bremick wrote:
> Today's email contained no message-- just a backorder number and an
> expected shipping date of 11/28.
I got the same message, but I'm not taking it for any sort of
> expected shipping date of 11/28.
affirmation.
--
Mike Benveniste -- (Clarification Required)
Its name is Public opinion. It is held in reverence. It settles
everything. Some think it is the voice of God. -- Mark Twain
Bremick
Nov 14, 2011, 4:19:15 PM11/14/11
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"Ken Barr" <k...@kenbarr.com> wrote in message
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> In article <j9r6sq$6np$1...@dont-email.me>, "Bremick" <rem...@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I received an email from the US Mint today regarding the status of
>> the
>> 25th Anniv AE 5 Coin Silver set i had ordered a couple days after the
>> sellout was announced. On the 9th, they sent an email saying I would be
>> placed on a waiting list in case of a cancellation (do fools still
>> exist?),
>> and that I would only be notified again if the set was scheduled for
>> shipment or that my order was cancelled. Today's email contained no
>> message-- just a backorder number and an expected shipping date of 11/28.
>> Of course I am taking this as an affirmation that someone cancelled their
>> order and that I am taking their place. There just may be hope for us
>> latecomers.
>
> In some cases, the cancellations were NOT at the request of the buyer
> ... the Mint set a limit of five sets per HOUSEHOLD, and in the past has
> proactively searched out people trying to circumvent the limit (using
> multiple names, multiple credit cards, minor variations of mailing
> addresses, etc.).
>
> When found, the extra orders are cancelled and the sets are reallocated
> to people on the waiting list. Depending on how may people tried this
> trick, and how many got caught, there could be a lot of happy "waiting
> list" people in the next few weeks ...
That makes much more sense than some people cancelling their order due to
> wrote:
>
>> I received an email from the US Mint today regarding the status of
>> the
>> 25th Anniv AE 5 Coin Silver set i had ordered a couple days after the
>> sellout was announced. On the 9th, they sent an email saying I would be
>> placed on a waiting list in case of a cancellation (do fools still
>> exist?),
>> and that I would only be notified again if the set was scheduled for
>> shipment or that my order was cancelled. Today's email contained no
>> message-- just a backorder number and an expected shipping date of 11/28.
>> Of course I am taking this as an affirmation that someone cancelled their
>> order and that I am taking their place. There just may be hope for us
>> latecomers.
>
> In some cases, the cancellations were NOT at the request of the buyer
> ... the Mint set a limit of five sets per HOUSEHOLD, and in the past has
> proactively searched out people trying to circumvent the limit (using
> multiple names, multiple credit cards, minor variations of mailing
> addresses, etc.).
>
> When found, the extra orders are cancelled and the sets are reallocated
> to people on the waiting list. Depending on how may people tried this
> trick, and how many got caught, there could be a lot of happy "waiting
> list" people in the next few weeks ...
buyer's remorse or guilt feelings about buying a government product and
making a potential killing from it.
>
> [For the record, I ordered five sets and received them on Saturday. I
> hope to sell a few at the Santa Clara show this weekend and recover my
> cost!]
then deciding to keep them all. Must have been my collector gene out of
control.
Bremick
Nov 14, 2011, 4:20:57 PM11/14/11
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"Mike Benveniste" <m...@murkyether.com> wrote in message
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> On 11/14/2011 8:59 AM, Bremick wrote:
>> Today's email contained no message-- just a backorder number and an
> > expected shipping date of 11/28.
>
> I got the same message, but I'm not taking it for any sort of
> affirmation.
pessimist. No sort of affirmation at all??
>> Today's email contained no message-- just a backorder number and an
> > expected shipping date of 11/28.
>
> I got the same message, but I'm not taking it for any sort of
> affirmation.
Mike Benveniste
Nov 15, 2011, 7:57:16 AM11/15/11
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On 11/14/2011 4:20 PM, Bremick wrote:
>> I got the same message, but I'm not taking it for any sort of
>> affirmation.
>
> pessimist. No sort of affirmation at all??
Well, it does affirm that at least as of yesterday, they didn't
>> I got the same message, but I'm not taking it for any sort of
>> affirmation.
>
> pessimist. No sort of affirmation at all??
lose my order, but a slip of this length seems to imply that
they don't have sets ready to ship.
Since all of the coins were minted and packaged before they went
on sale, that means at best, I'm on a wait list for "bounced"
sets. I don't expect that to be a very large quantity.
Bremick
Nov 15, 2011, 8:44:44 AM11/15/11
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"backorder" (-) email gives reason to hold out hope. Already packaged or
not, they're apparently not sending them all out at once and reportedly are
holding some sets for the 28th. Nothing to lose by waiting, IMO, especially
since I delayed in placing an order in the first place.
> On 11/14/2011 4:20 PM, Bremick wrote:
>
>>> I got the same message, but I'm not taking it for any sort of
>>> affirmation.
>>
>> pessimist. No sort of affirmation at all??
>
> Well, it does affirm that at least as of yesterday, they didn't
> lose my order, but a slip of this length seems to imply that
> they don't have sets ready to ship.
>
> Since all of the coins were minted and packaged before they went
> on sale, that means at best, I'm on a wait list for "bounced"
> sets. I don't expect that to be a very large quantity.
>
Chin up. Jud's rejection email received on the same day others received a
>
>>> I got the same message, but I'm not taking it for any sort of
>>> affirmation.
>>
>> pessimist. No sort of affirmation at all??
>
> Well, it does affirm that at least as of yesterday, they didn't
> lose my order, but a slip of this length seems to imply that
> they don't have sets ready to ship.
>
> Since all of the coins were minted and packaged before they went
> on sale, that means at best, I'm on a wait list for "bounced"
> sets. I don't expect that to be a very large quantity.
>
"backorder" (-) email gives reason to hold out hope. Already packaged or
not, they're apparently not sending them all out at once and reportedly are
holding some sets for the 28th. Nothing to lose by waiting, IMO, especially
since I delayed in placing an order in the first place.
Bremick
Nov 28, 2011, 8:44:22 AM11/28/11
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It gets curiouser..... today's email from the Mint adjusts the 28 Nov
backorder AE set shipping date to 12 Dec. Rather than simply telling me my
order was placed too late, like they did with others, the Mint apparently
has decided to play along with me for a while before dropping the bomb.
What a nice Christmas present it would be though.
backorder AE set shipping date to 12 Dec. Rather than simply telling me my
order was placed too late, like they did with others, the Mint apparently
has decided to play along with me for a while before dropping the bomb.
What a nice Christmas present it would be though.
Mike Benveniste
Nov 28, 2011, 11:18:35 AM11/28/11
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On 11/28/2011 8:44 AM, Bremick wrote:
> It gets curiouser..... today's email from the Mint adjusts the 28 Nov
> backorder AE set shipping date to 12 Dec.
As did I. While I don't deny being at least a part-time pessimist,
> It gets curiouser..... today's email from the Mint adjusts the 28 Nov
> backorder AE set shipping date to 12 Dec.
when dealing with the Mint it often seems justified.
Mike Benveniste
Dec 1, 2011, 11:36:01 PM12/1/11
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On 11/28/2011 11:18 AM, Mike Benveniste wrote:
> On 11/28/2011 8:44 AM, Bremick wrote:
>
>> It gets curiouser..... today's email from the Mint adjusts the 28 Nov
>> backorder AE set shipping date to 12 Dec.
>
> As did I. While I don't deny being at least a part-time pessimist,
> when dealing with the Mint it often seems justified.
Surprise! I just received a shipment notification from the Mint.
> On 11/28/2011 8:44 AM, Bremick wrote:
>
>> It gets curiouser..... today's email from the Mint adjusts the 28 Nov
>> backorder AE set shipping date to 12 Dec.
>
> As did I. While I don't deny being at least a part-time pessimist,
> when dealing with the Mint it often seems justified.
It's one of those times when I'm delighted to admit I was wrong.
--
Mike Benveniste -- m...@murkyether.com (Clarification Required)
You don't have to sort of enhance reality. There is nothing
stranger than truth. -- Annie Leibovitz
Bremick
Dec 2, 2011, 8:40:52 AM12/2/11
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minutes. Congrats!
> On 11/28/2011 11:18 AM, Mike Benveniste wrote:
>> On 11/28/2011 8:44 AM, Bremick wrote:
>>
>>> It gets curiouser..... today's email from the Mint adjusts the 28 Nov
>>> backorder AE set shipping date to 12 Dec.
>>
>> As did I. While I don't deny being at least a part-time pessimist,
>> when dealing with the Mint it often seems justified.
>
> Surprise! I just received a shipment notification from the Mint.
> It's one of those times when I'm delighted to admit I was wrong.
Today I'll be sitting at the computer and refereshing my emails every ten
>> On 11/28/2011 8:44 AM, Bremick wrote:
>>
>>> It gets curiouser..... today's email from the Mint adjusts the 28 Nov
>>> backorder AE set shipping date to 12 Dec.
>>
>> As did I. While I don't deny being at least a part-time pessimist,
>> when dealing with the Mint it often seems justified.
>
> Surprise! I just received a shipment notification from the Mint.
> It's one of those times when I'm delighted to admit I was wrong.
minutes. Congrats!
Bremick
Dec 9, 2011, 10:18:00 PM12/9/11
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I received an email from the Mint tonight informing me that my 5-coin
25th anniversary set has been shipped! I do feel a bit guilty, having
placed an online order two days after the "sellout", but I believe the guilt
feelings will pass. Especially after I turn it into a profit on eBay.
Greed is good I'm told.
.
25th anniversary set has been shipped! I do feel a bit guilty, having
placed an online order two days after the "sellout", but I believe the guilt
feelings will pass. Especially after I turn it into a profit on eBay.
Greed is good I'm told.
.
Jerry Dennis
Dec 10, 2011, 6:30:32 PM12/10/11
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>
> - Show quoted text -
No. Greed is not good. You must attone for your digression of decency
toward your fellow man. To do so, you must first send your 25th
anniversary set to me, then build a bonfire in a distant place, dance
around the fire for 30 minutes always facing the east, and chant, "I
was wrong in my digression. Forgive me." You must repeat said chant
for the entire 30 minutes. Only afterwards will you be forgiven.
Jerry
That's a joke. Congrats, Bruce. I lost out completely.
Bremick
Dec 10, 2011, 7:14:18 PM12/10/11
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"Jerry Dennis" <JDen...@aol.com> wrote in message
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I guess some higher being must have wanted me to have this particular
set, and forgave my procrastination. My feeling of guilt comes after
hearing so many horror stories about collectors spending a good part of
their day just trying to link up with the Mint in order to buy a single set,
and being left out.
As I see it, the Mint must have no one with full mental capacity in
charge of determining the number of sets to produce. Anyone with a copy of
the weekly coin pubs could note that 850,000 proof 2011 silver eagles
reportedly have been sold so far, along with some more hundreds of thousands
of 2011 Unc and bullion examples. That alone should give them a rough idea
of the market demand for these things. Then to settle on a 100,000 limit
must mean Mint officials secretly enjoy sitting back and watching the
inevitable numismatic fireworks. Imagine if their phones and servers had
been up to speed. The sellout might have happened in a half hour.
Some Guy
Dec 10, 2011, 10:26:36 PM12/10/11
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No. Greed is not good. You must attone for your digression of decency
toward your fellow man. To do so, you must first send your 25th
anniversary set to me, then build a bonfire in a distant place, dance
around the fire for 30 minutes always facing the east, and chant, "I
was wrong in my digression. Forgive me." You must repeat said chant
for the entire 30 minutes. Only afterwards will you be forgiven.
===========================================================
toward your fellow man. To do so, you must first send your 25th
anniversary set to me, then build a bonfire in a distant place, dance
around the fire for 30 minutes always facing the east, and chant, "I
was wrong in my digression. Forgive me." You must repeat said chant
for the entire 30 minutes. Only afterwards will you be forgiven.
The chant is actually "Owa tagu siam" to be repeated while watching a weekend
marathon of "The Odd Couple".
Jud
Dec 12, 2011, 2:15:44 PM12/12/11
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> I received an email from the Mint tonight informing me that my 5-coin
> 25th anniversary set has been shipped! I do feel a bit guilty, having
> placed an online order two days after the "sellout", but I believe the guilt
> feelings will pass. Especially after I turn it into a profit on eBay.
> Greed is good I'm told.
>
> .
<SIGH> I placed my order late at night the first day it was offered,
> 25th anniversary set has been shipped! I do feel a bit guilty, having
> placed an online order two days after the "sellout", but I believe the guilt
> feelings will pass. Especially after I turn it into a profit on eBay.
> Greed is good I'm told.
>
> .
got the 'waiting list' email, and finally the 'you are outta luck'
email, and yet you get yours that was ordered 2 days later? Either you
have the luck of the Irish, or there is a black cloud following me.
Bremick
Dec 12, 2011, 4:08:52 PM12/12/11
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"Jud" <numis...@aol.com> wrote in message
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It's not you. It must be something I ate...... or avoided eating I
still can't understand it. I actually received the set today, looking so
lonely in a HUGE box that could have held a dozen such sets. I'm afraid to
keep looking at it because it looks so impressive. Although tempted to keep
it, I decided to try the local coin shop to see if I could sell it for what
I might otherwise net out of an eBay/PayPal/USPS auction. The shop
apparently had recently gone out of business. I hope you and the former
shop owner aren't under that same black cloud.
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