Difficulty obtaining president dollars.
Dik T. Winter
dollars from my supplier. But as of 2008 he is apparently not able to
provide me with the president dollars. I do not want rolls, I want single
coins. What is the problem?
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home: bovenover 215, 1025 jn amsterdam, nederland; http://www.cwi.nl/~dik/
Arizona Coin Collector
"Dik T. Winter" <Dik.W...@cwi.nl> wrote in message
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Hello
Maybe you can purchase the roll, break it up, and sell the other
coins to make up for the extra money you paid the U.S. Mint.
..
Mr. Jaggers
> In the past I had no problems obtaining the state quarters and
> president dollars from my supplier. But as of 2008 he is apparently
> not able to provide me with the president dollars. I do not want
> rolls, I want single coins. What is the problem?
May I assume that your supplier is in Europe? If so, he would likely have
to buy the coins by the roll to be profitable at all, and perhaps he ends up
not selling his entire inventory one coin at a time, and gets stuck with
unsold pieces. You may be a loyal, faithful customer, but it's possible
that you are the only one, or one of just a few, and he has decided that it
just isn't working out any more.
If your supplier is in the U.S., he may have decided that the costs and
risks of shipping one or two low-value coins overseas are just not worth it.
A lot of international shippers have given up because of all the hassle.
James
RWF
> president
> dollars from my supplier. But as of 2008 he is apparently not able to
> provide me with the president dollars. I do not want rolls, I want
> single
> coins. What is the problem?
Well, one problem could be that you expect readers of this NG to be able
to read your coin dealer's mind.
Another could be your over-inflated sense of entitlement.
Then again, it might just be that you are a jackass.
oly
Honestly, we are having problems getting the Prezibucks coins here in
the U.S.A. too.
One local dealer handled them last year, but got rid of them this year
- he has lines of people wanting to sell scrap gold and his people are
all very busy. His reasoning is why handle the small $$$ markup items
when he can make more doing the scrap.
Getting the most recent issues for face value from a bank is very
problematic.
oly
RWF
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>Getting the most recent issues for face value from a bank is very
>problematic.
I don't have a problem getting rolls from my bank.
It usually takes them 2 or 3 weeks after the official release date to
get them.
What I can't get from any of the banks around here are the new "Native
American" coins, the new cents or quarters.
oly
> "oly" <oly2...@aol.com> wrote in message
The Native American dollars are available here in Springpatch, at a
premium (a set of P&D for $4.00). They are odd looking coins. The
date now being on the edge, the previous symmetry of the Sackie
obverse has been destroyed. The 2009 proof clad "6 quarter set" is
available here @ $17.00 - the designs are pretty damn bad.
oly
oly
The Native American dollars are available here in Springpatch, at a
Dik T. Winter
Might be. On the other hand he has provided me with state quarters (upto and
including 2008) and the 2007 president dollars.
Dik T. Winter
> Dik T. Winter wrote:
> > In the past I had no problems obtaining the state quarters and
> > president dollars from my supplier. But as of 2008 he is apparently
> > not able to provide me with the president dollars. I do not want
> > rolls, I want single coins. What is the problem?
>
> May I assume that your supplier is in Europe?
No, he is in the US.
> If your supplier is in the U.S., he may have decided that the costs and
> risks of shipping one or two low-value coins overseas are just not worth it.
> A lot of international shippers have given up because of all the hassle.
I have had no problems obtaining the state quarters from him. I always
ask for such things in addition to another order. Moreover, I pay the
shipping cost and it is on my risk. I order with him about twice a year
and never had any difficulty with hassle of whatever form.
Mr. Jaggers
> In article <govhr...@enews5.newsguy.com> "Mr. Jaggers"
> <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> writes:
>> Dik T. Winter wrote:
>>> In the past I had no problems obtaining the state quarters and
>>> president dollars from my supplier. But as of 2008 he is apparently
>>> not able to provide me with the president dollars. I do not want
>>> rolls, I want single coins. What is the problem?
>>
>> May I assume that your supplier is in Europe?
>
> No, he is in the US.
>
>> If your supplier is in the U.S., he may have decided that the costs
>> and risks of shipping one or two low-value coins overseas are just
>> not worth it. A lot of international shippers have given up because
>> of all the hassle.
>
> I have had no problems obtaining the state quarters from him. I
> always
> ask for such things in addition to another order. Moreover, I pay the
> shipping cost and it is on my risk. I order with him about twice a
> year
> and never had any difficulty with hassle of whatever form.
One idea I thought of after responding to your original post is that the
first round of Presidential dollars contained three of our best-known
Presidents - Washington, Jefferson, and Madison. After that, popularity
quickly falls off, until, after Jackson, there is a long run from Van Buren
to Buchanan that are not only relatively unknown, but not particularly
revered. Here in the U.S. I overhear a lot of negativity about this whole
project, and perhaps your supplier has decided not to go to the trouble to
carry Harrison, Tyler, Polk, and Taylor for 2009. Other than that, I'm out
of ideas.
James
Jim Menning
> dollars from my supplier. But as of 2008 he is apparently not able to
> provide me with the president dollars. I do not want rolls, I want single
> coins. What is the problem?
>
Why would you ask here where people can only guess?
ASK YOUR SUPPLIER!
Mr. Jaggers
You're assuming that no one here knows anything about the situation, that
Dik has the time to compose a question and get it to his supplier, and that
his supplier will take the time and incur the expense to send a response,
all within the framework of a "no sale" communication. I see no problem
with asking people who live in the homeland of the coins in question what is
going on, especially when the effort to ask is as little as it is on rcc.
Some of us actually do know something.
James
RWF
"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
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Dik complains about not understanding posts about US politics, Dik
complains his dealer won't sell him coins, Dik complains and complains.
Welcome to my killfile, Dik-head!
gogu
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> I have had no problems obtaining the state quarters from him. I always
> ask for such things in addition to another order. Moreover, I pay the
> shipping cost and it is on my risk. I order with him about twice a year
> and never had any difficulty with hassle of whatever form.
Try Chuck d'Ambra:
http://www.telecoins.com/
He's an excellent guy of proven honesty; he will certainly try and help you.
rgrds
gogu
> In article <gp0jci$nu7$1...@news.motzarella.org> "RWF" <R...@090308.invalid>
> writes:
> > Well, one problem could be that you expect readers of this NG to be able
> > to read your coin dealer's mind.
> > Another could be your over-inflated sense of entitlement.
> > Then again, it might just be that you are a jackass.
> Might be. On the other hand he has provided me with state quarters (upto
> and
> including 2008) and the 2007 president dollars.
Please don't feed the TROLL!
Jim Menning
"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
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The only one who knows exactly why he is having trouble getting them through his
particular supplier is HIS SUPPLIER.
An email to his supplier is just as easy as posting here for SWAGs, and the only way
to get a verified answer.
Mr. Jaggers
OK, Dik, the Oracle has spoken. Better do what he says.
James the Peon
Jim Menning
"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
You were the one that claimed to have the answers.
Mr. Jaggers
I made no "claims" whatsoever. All of my explanations were couched in
phrases of uncertainty ("it's possible"), tentative adverbs ("perhaps"),
and conditional verb forms ("if so...would have to buy", "may be", "may I
assume"), as opposed to the indicative mood, which is used to state facts
and express certainty. One who is even marginally fluent in the English
language will recognize the difference between fact and supposition when he
sees this type of grammar and syntax. If you wish to go up against a person
who spent his entire professional life teaching the subtleties of oral and
written expression to high school and college students, lay on. I'm ready
for whatever you've got.
James
Jim Menning
"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
I was referring to above where you claimed "Some of us actually do know something" in
this thread. You posted as though you knew the answers. But your latest post is
just trying to change the issue. It's not a question of English. It's whether or
not you or anyone else here can answer with any certainty why Dik's supplier has
failed him.
There is no way you can be sure of the specific reason why Dik's supplier is failing
him, unless you are the supplier or have talked to the supplier about it.
Dik still needs to contact his supplier to get his explanation, as he is the only one
that knows for sure.
Mr. Jaggers
I hereby retract all of my posts so far in this thread. My new position is
that "No one on rcc knows anything about anything. Anyone asking a question
of a lay person that he/she should be asking of a primary source (and it is
expected that anyone making inquiry here will know the difference) shall be
placed on trial for witchcraft, and if convicted, shall be hanged at sunrise
the next day, or, in the very unlikely case of an acquittal, shall be
permanently banished from the newsgroup. Furthermore, anyone caught making
any posts of a speculative nature, whether in response to an actual inquiry,
or in the form of an original statement, shall be killed and eaten."
James
RWF
"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
> I hereby retract all of my posts so far in this thread. My new
> position is that "No one on rcc knows anything about anything. Anyone
> asking a question of a lay person that he/she should be asking of a
> primary source (and it is expected that anyone making inquiry here
> will know the difference) shall be placed on trial for witchcraft, and
> if convicted, shall be hanged at sunrise the next day, or, in the very
> unlikely case of an acquittal, shall be permanently banished from the
> newsgroup. Furthermore, anyone caught making any posts of a
> speculative nature, whether in response to an actual inquiry, or in
> the form of an original statement, shall be killed and eaten."
Furthermore, anyone who posts about the American president and uses
phrases and words some dull-witted foreigner can't understand shall be
boiled in chicken fat.
Bill Krummel
"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
So, what's for dinner? Of course, I am assuming you are a primary source
for my question. Dang, I assumed. Just answered my own question.
supper's on
Bill
Mr. Jaggers
Well, we got red-eye gravy and black-eye peas,
A big slab o' fatback, juicy as you please,
Grits 'n' greens, an' shoo-fly pie,
An' swamp-water dumplins, my oh my!
James
som...@some.domain
Mr. Jaggers
I'm sorry, but I'm not allowed to say what I "think," only what I "know,"
and then only under a very narrow set of circumstances.
James
mazorj
"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
Well, that's only your opinion, not as yet a verified fact.
You are hereby gigged one rcc demerit.
Mr. Jaggers
And most richly deserved, I might add.
James
'wait, was that I who just got gigged?'
Jim Menning
"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
What a drama queen!
Mr. Jaggers
King.
James
PC
"RWF" <R...@090308.invalid> wrote in message
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>
>
> Dik complains about not understanding posts about US politics, Dik
> complains his dealer won't sell him coins, Dik complains and complains.
> Welcome to my killfile, Dik-head!
Suite yourself. I, for one, like that we get people from the other side of
the Atlantic posting here.
PC
"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
> I made no "claims" whatsoever. All of my explanations were couched in
> phrases of uncertainty ("it's possible"), tentative adverbs ("perhaps"),
> and conditional verb forms ("if so...would have to buy", "may be", "may I
> assume"), as opposed to the indicative mood, which is used to state facts
> and express certainty. One who is even marginally fluent in the English
> language will recognize the difference between fact and supposition when
> he sees this type of grammar and syntax. If you wish to go up against a
> person who spent his entire professional life teaching the subtleties of
> oral and written expression to high school and college students, lay on.
> I'm ready for whatever you've got.
>
Eh heh... "oral expression" eh hehe heh hehe heeh heeh ehehe heheheh
Dik T. Winter
...
> Dik complains about not understanding posts about US politics, Dik
> complains his dealer won't sell him coins, Dik complains and complains.
> Welcome to my killfile, Dik-head!
You are deliberately offensive. But I do know you like that. I complain
about statements in articles that are posted world-wide that are
incomprehensible to those not knowing a lot of US politics. I do *not*
complain about my dealer who does not sell me coins. He stated "no, I
do not have them", and so did not add them to my order (%). My serious
question was whether it was difficult to obtain them.
--
% My order, as always, included state quarters and president dollars
regardless of the price, if he had them. It worked for the state quarters
through many years and did work for the president dollars in 2007. Sometimes
he added a state quarter for free, most times he charged for it, no problem
at all.
Dik T. Winter
> Jim Menning wrote:
...
> > The only one who knows exactly why he is having trouble getting them
> > through his particular supplier is HIS SUPPLIER.
> >
> > An email to his supplier is just as easy as posting here for SWAGs,
> > and the only way to get a verified answer.
>
> OK, Dik, the Oracle has spoken. Better do what he says.
Yeah. He states he does not have them. So, my question was whether it is
difficult to obtain them singly (i.e. not in a roll, I am not interested
in a roll).
Dave Allured
>
> In the past I had no problems obtaining the state quarters and president
> dollars from my supplier. But as of 2008 he is apparently not able to
> provide me with the president dollars. I do not want rolls, I want single
> coins. What is the problem?
It seems you are having some trouble getting a real answer to your
original question. ;-)
Here is what I know so far. There are principally three ways to get
prezibux in quantity, for dealers and others in the U.S., as follows.
And yes, there are problems.
1. Banks, which depend in turn on the Federal Reserve. I have had some
feedback to the effect that the Federal Reserve feels like there are too
many coins in circulation right now. They are rationing orders for new
coins to some banks this year. This carries through to increased
difficulty for dealers. This is a probable cause for your supplier to
be discouraged.
2. U.S. Mint Direct Ship program. $250 boxes of new prezibux can be
obtained at face value. It's a nice deal when you can get what you
want. $250 may be too much for some people who do not know how to spend
the extra coins. There are security problems with shipping, and
surprise, the Mint does not stay current with new releases. It is
anyone's guess how long customers will have to wait for the new Harrison
dollars this way, perhaps never. You can't order by mint mark, either.
3. U.S. Mint numismatic sales. Anyone can easily get single rolls of
new P or D prezibux this way. However, there is a huge and insulting
markup, about 54% over face value if you just want one roll of each mint
mark. And this for the same ordinary circulation grade coins that some
people get from the bank at face value if they are lucky.
I don't blame a dealer for getting discouraged about prezibux. However
my advice for you is just to move on to a different dealer for this
purpose. I second gogu's endorsement of Chuck d'Ambra, he's an
acquaintance of mine. See gogu's previous message. I do not know
whether he is carrying the prezibux this year.
If you belong to a local coin club, try lowering your own cost by
ordering several prezibux for each issue, or even whole rolls; spread
out the shipping cost; and sell off the extras to your group.
--Dave
gogu
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> Dik T. Winter wrote:
>>
> I don't blame a dealer for getting discouraged about prezibux. However
> my advice for you is just to move on to a different dealer for this
> purpose. I second gogu's endorsement of Chuck d'Ambra, he's an
> acquaintance of mine. See gogu's previous message. I do not know
> whether he is carrying the prezibux this year.
Yes, he's carrying them as singles:
http://www.telecoins.com/dollars.html
rgrds