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les.p...@gmail.com

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Jan 22, 2009, 9:30:14 AM1/22/09
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I just received a "Special message from Numismatic News e-Newsletter
and World Reserve Monetary Exchange", regarding a "Special
Presidential Dollar Coin Ballistic Roll Deal". For the low, low price
of $496 plus shipping, you can get 4 plastic cases filled with 50
coins each featuring each of the first 4 presidents, and 4 additional
Presidential dollar coins in individual encapsulated cases.

I have previously railed against this company in my blog, and
thankfuly they have moved their marketing out of my area, but this is
a new low. I used to consider NN with a small amount of regard, with
their sound reporting on the news of coins, despite the regular
hawking of Krause products. But at least Krause is a well-known and
well-regarded company catering to numismatics, not the sort to use fly-
by-night tactics for which WRME is well known.

I am now doubly glad that I threw out the re-subscription notice for
NN: they will not be getting any more of my money. When my
subscription ends this June or so, I will rely on the web and the
various other coin blogs for my numismatic news.
--
Les
http://life-of-coins.blogspot.com/

oly

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Jan 22, 2009, 9:44:44 AM1/22/09
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On Jan 22, 8:30 am, "les.peters+c...@gmail.com" <les.pet...@gmail.com>
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Please keep in mind that Krause Publications has been swallowed by a
much bigger entity, F & W Publications. It is certainly possible that
F & W could arrange this kind of advertising without a single person
in Iola ever knowing about it. Yes, it is a rip, but KP is no longer
simply Chet and Cliff and Dave.

oly

Mr. Jaggers

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Jan 22, 2009, 9:48:04 AM1/22/09
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If you feel that strongly, I'd suggest you drop a line to the new guy in
Iola, Scott Tappa. I did recently, several times in fact, and find that he
listens. It's worth a try, and you might accomplish a positive result for
our hobby.

james


RWF

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Jan 22, 2009, 10:09:40 AM1/22/09
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"les.pet...@gmail.com" <les.p...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I am now doubly glad that I threw out the re-subscription notice for
> NN: they will not be getting any more of my money. When my
> subscription ends this June or so, I will rely on the web and the
> various other coin blogs for my numismatic news.

I let my sub to NN lapse also.
Primarily because I also get Coin World and prefer it to NN.
I was dismayed though when they started running ads for WRME ballistic
rolls.

mazorj

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Jan 22, 2009, 10:13:09 AM1/22/09
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"RWF" <R...@200901.invalid> wrote in message
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I go ballistic every time I see that ad.


RWF

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Jan 22, 2009, 11:39:02 AM1/22/09
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"mazorj" <maz...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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One has to wonder at the marketing savvy of the good folks at WRME in
putting such an ad in a paper read by (presumably) knowledgeable
numismatists.

stonej

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Jan 22, 2009, 12:26:19 PM1/22/09
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I don't think Chet Krause is involved in the day to day operations
since he retired and sold out
to a big publishing company. I'm sure that this kind of ad would
never appear in the old NN.

Krause sued the company that bought him out a few years ago in a
dispute over use of his name or
something like that, the details escape me now. I don't think there
is any love lost between Chet and
the new owners these days.

mazorj

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Jan 22, 2009, 1:40:39 PM1/22/09
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"RWF" <R...@200901.invalid> wrote in message
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I think they're the ones who take 2-page spreads in the Parade Sunday
supplement. It must cost many times what NN charges but it fits right
in with the ads for crystal angel statues and painted ceramic plates
of pets and dead celebrities. IOW, they're aiming at the far left
shoulder of the IQ and knowledge bell curves. In a mass circulation
rag, even with a low response rate, enough soft heads and hearts will
be buying your trash to make you rich.

So your question is even more interesting - why bother with NN? Maybe
they're making so much $ off the idiots that they can afford to gussy
up their marketing image by splurging a little to showcase themselves
in a "prestige" publication. "As seen in Numismatic News" looks more
impressive than "As seen in Sunday supplements, seniors' publications,
and junk mail inserts".


oly

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Jan 22, 2009, 1:49:46 PM1/22/09
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On Jan 22, 12:40 pm, "mazorj" <maz...@verizon.net> wrote:
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The word "numismatics" has no currency with the general public. If
you use that word, they think you are talking about
auto & truck tires.

oly

mazorj

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Jan 22, 2009, 2:21:17 PM1/22/09
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"oly" <oly...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Heh, heh. Or to coin a phrase, "The Numismatics? Weren't they a
techno band back in the Eighties?"


oly

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Jan 22, 2009, 3:26:42 PM1/22/09
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Tire & Zoo Industry Publication: "Pneumatic Gnus"

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RWF

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Jan 22, 2009, 3:38:06 PM1/22/09
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> Heh, heh. Or to coin a phrase, "The Numismatics? Weren't they a
> techno band back in the Eighties?"

New Mismatics?
I didn't even know there were Old Mismatics!

mazorj

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Jan 22, 2009, 4:06:53 PM1/22/09
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They were a one-hit wonder in the Sixties.


mazorj

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On Jan 22, 1:21 pm, "mazorj" <maz...@verizon.net> wrote:
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> < The word "numismatics" has no currency with the general public. If
> you use that word, they think you are talking about auto & truck
> tires.
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> techno band back in the Eighties?"- Hide quoted text -
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< Tire & Zoo Industry Publication: "Pneumatic Gnus"

Groan. Don't get me started on meting out verbal pun-ishment! I'm a
very opunionated person.


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Jan 22, 2009, 6:01:32 PM1/22/09
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In article <Nd5el.1526$aI1....@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>, "mazorj" <maz...@verizon.net> wrote:
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>On Jan 22, 1:21 pm, "mazorj" <maz...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> "oly" <oly2...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>> < The word "numismatics" has no currency with the general public. If
>> you use that word, they think you are talking about auto & truck
>> tires.
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>> techno band back in the Eighties?"- Hide quoted text -
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>Groan. Don't get me started on meting out verbal pun-ishment! I'm a
>very opunionated person.
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well then, o-pun the door, and punder your next move.

som...@some.domain

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Jan 22, 2009, 6:02:04 PM1/22/09
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i think that was the new mz matics.

les.p...@gmail.com

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Jan 23, 2009, 2:00:11 PM1/23/09
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You are exactly correct: they are known for their 2-page ads in the
Sunday PARADE,
which I have noted ad nauseum (mostly mine) in my blog. I am so happy
they haven't
purchased them in a while (or at least, not in my market)... maybe
they are the
same people behind the Amish electric fireplaces with the totally
phony pictures
of fire on the units.
--
Les
http://life-of-coins.blogspot.com/

les.p...@gmail.com

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Jan 23, 2009, 2:02:28 PM1/23/09
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On Jan 22, 9:48 am, "Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote:

I will see if they purchase another ad, then I'll drop them a line...
Thanks.

--
Les
http://life-of-coins.blogspont.com/

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