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Arizona Coin Collector

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Nov 21, 2008, 9:41:12 AM11/21/08
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Savannah - Now
Savannah Morning News
Friday, November 21, 2008 at 12:30 am

More than $100,000 in collectibles stolen

A man reported that two 400-pound safes containing
more than $100,000 in antique coins and stamps,
along with a shotgun, were missing after a
Wednesday night robbery at his eastside home,
according to Savannah-Chatham police.

The man told metro officers someone broke into
his home in the 1300 block of Bacon Park Drive
between 6:20 p.m. and 7:46 p.m. Along with the
shotgun, numerous coins and stamps from the 1850s
were inside the two safes, a metro police report
stated.

Officers at the scene found the front door to
the home forced open.

Anyone with information is asked to contact
CrimeStoppers at 234-2020.


Bob

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Nov 21, 2008, 10:05:51 AM11/21/08
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On Nov 21, 8:41�am, "Arizona Coin Collector" <nos...@nospam.com>
wrote:

This must have been a pretty strong "someone" to drag a 400-pound safe
out of a house, then go back for another, all within an hour and a
half. Probably took two or three burglars to do this.

tony cooper

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Nov 21, 2008, 10:35:39 AM11/21/08
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On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 07:05:51 -0800 (PST), Bob <RLWin...@aol.com>
wrote:

>On Nov 21, 8:41?am, "Arizona Coin Collector" <nos...@nospam.com>

The article doesn't say that someone made off with two safes. It says
that someone broke in. It only takes one person to break in. The
rest of the gang just followed that someone in.

--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

Wm Hopkins

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Nov 21, 2008, 1:23:45 PM11/21/08
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"tony cooper" <tony_co...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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First paragraph, "A man reported that two 400-pound safes containing more

tony cooper

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Nov 21, 2008, 4:53:28 PM11/21/08
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On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:23:45 GMT, "Wm Hopkins" <whopk...@mchsi.com>
wrote:

Read it again.

The objection raised was that "someone", meaning one person, couldn't
make off with two 400-pound safes. My correction points out that the
article says that someone broke in, and not someone made off with two
400-pound safes.

Aladdin Sane

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Nov 21, 2008, 7:42:22 PM11/21/08
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Regardless, one sufficiently strong man and a two wheel dolly can move a 400
pound load.

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tony cooper

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Nov 21, 2008, 8:00:56 PM11/21/08
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On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:42:22 -0800, "Aladdin Sane"
<jmaz...@comcast.net> wrote:

>Regardless, one sufficiently strong man and a two wheel dolly can move a 400
>pound load.

"Can", maybe, but the problem isn't moving the weight. The problem is
breaking the plane. If the safe is tall and narrow, a refrigerator
mover type dolly might work. If the safe is short and squat, it would
be very tough for one person to break the plane. You've got to tip
the dolly to start to move it.

Frank Provasek

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Nov 21, 2008, 8:40:59 PM11/21/08
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One guy brought in my 380 lb (empty weight) side-by-side refrigerator-
freezer on a dolly, somehow getting it though a standard door
opening. The Texas Coin Dealers Association has received numerous
reports of 500 to 800 lb safes being missing after a break in.
Usually a 2-man job, but easy enough. Certainly a good reason to not
rely on a safe alone for protection.

----
Frank Provasek Rare Coins
http://www.frankcoins.com Ebay FRANKCOINS
Member ANA, Texas Numismatic Assoc, Texas Coin Dealers Assoc,
PCGS, NGC, & ANACS authorized dealer, Texas Auctioneer Lic 11259

Jim Menning

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Nov 21, 2008, 9:03:28 PM11/21/08
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"Aladdin Sane" <jmaz...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> Regardless, one sufficiently strong man and a two wheel dolly can move a 400 pound
> load.
>
>

Agreed.

I transport jukeboxes that weigh 350-450 pounds all by myself with a dolly, including
getting them in and out of the van. I imagine a safe, likely being much smaller
would be very easy.

If you can give anything the little "boost" needed to get it tipped onto a dolly, the
actual moving of the item takes almost no effort at all. Once loaded, a heavy item
can usually be pushed up the tilted dolly into the transport vehicle, either using
the dolly itself as a ramp, or by having a couple of 2 by 6's serve as a ramp. I
could easily see sliding a safe up the tilted dolly using a 2 by 4 for a lever to
lift it.


Jim Menning

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Nov 21, 2008, 9:05:03 PM11/21/08
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"tony cooper" <tony_co...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Any 2 by 4 or similar lever can easily be used to "break the plane" to tip the item
and the dolly. I can think of numerous items here in my own home that could be used
as such.


tony cooper

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Nov 21, 2008, 11:58:40 PM11/21/08
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Only if you can get it under the front of the item.

tony cooper

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Nov 22, 2008, 12:04:23 AM11/22/08
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On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:03:28 -0600, "Jim Menning"
<jmenni...@new.rr.com> wrote:

>
>"Aladdin Sane" <jmaz...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:H9Sdnatn2r_syLrU...@giganews.com...
>>
>> Regardless, one sufficiently strong man and a two wheel dolly can move a 400 pound
>> load.
>>
>>
>
>Agreed.
>
>I transport jukeboxes that weigh 350-450 pounds all by myself with a dolly, including
>getting them in and out of the van. I imagine a safe, likely being much smaller
>would be very easy.

\
I have moved 55 gl drums of chemicals on a drum dolly, and moved them
up a ramp into a truck. With the contents in the range of 8 pounds
per gallon, that's 440 pounds. Drums are tall enough to rock to break
that plane. It's the short, squat things with a wide footprint that
are hard to tip.



>If you can give anything the little "boost" needed to get it tipped onto a dolly, the
>actual moving of the item takes almost no effort at all. Once loaded, a heavy item
>can usually be pushed up the tilted dolly into the transport vehicle, either using
>the dolly itself as a ramp, or by having a couple of 2 by 6's serve as a ramp. I
>could easily see sliding a safe up the tilted dolly using a 2 by 4 for a lever to
>lift it.
>

--

Jim Menning

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Nov 22, 2008, 12:58:56 AM11/22/08
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"tony cooper" <tony_co...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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I haven't seen a large safe yet that was flat to the floor.

Wm Hopkins

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Nov 26, 2008, 7:06:18 PM11/26/08
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"tony cooper" <tony_co...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Why does "someone" have to mean one person? It's an unknown. And the article
does state
two safes along with a shotgun were missing. Not picking a fight, just
trying to follow your
interpretation.


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