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capri

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Jan 17, 2010, 12:17:47 AM1/17/10
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I tried an experiment at work this past week. I work with a bunch of
younger people. kids in their
early to mid 20's a few of them in their 30's. I bought 2 rolls of
presidential dollars and took them ioto
work and passed them out one to each person at the end of a weekly
meeting and did not say a word.
Most of them thought that they were some kind of tokens. One kid
finally says "hey is this one those
new dollar coins?" Then others "no it can't be there aren't any
dollar coins", "looks like a token to me"
I finally explained that it was indeed a dollar coin and had been out
for a few years now. It was interesting
to watch their excitment over the coin. "Hey, why don't we see more of
these around?", "where can I get some?"
"a dollar coin makes a lot of sense". Sure its these kids
responsibility to learn about their environment and society and the
money that they use but the mint really dropped the ball on educating
the public about these coins.

mazorj

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Jan 17, 2010, 2:49:07 AM1/17/10
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"capri" <prh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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They didn't drop the ball, they were just faced with trying to climb an
insurmountable PR mountain with the limited funds that they had. Major
manufacturers spend tens of millions of dollars advertising a single
product, bombarding consumers with hundreds of exposures ("impressions")
just to get to the point where a fraction of the market might just
conceivably maybe remember to look at the product on the shelf when they
shop. And only a fraction of those will actually buy it.

A handful of paid ads and publicity appearances doesn't have a prayer of
reaching more than a minuscule portion of the U.S. population. Furthermore,
most of those who pay any attention to these efforts are numismatists
already well aware of dollar coins. The Mint has to show Congress that
they're giving it the old college try, but eliminating paper dollars is the
only way that a majority of the public is going to be aware of dollar coins,
let alone use them.

Jerry Dennis

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Jan 17, 2010, 11:32:20 AM1/17/10
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On Jan 17, 12:17�am, capri <prh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> �I tried an experiment at work this past week. I work with a bunch of

Sadly, it isn't just the kids. I was in Wally World just yesterday,
picking up a few items, and paid for them with three Taylor dollars.
The cashier, who was at least as old as I am (57) saw them "all nice
and shiny" and asked if I was sure I wanted to spend them. When I
told her I could get as many as I wanted at any bank, she seemed
shocked. Her reply, "Really?" Remember, WalMart was THE push store
for Sacabux way back in 2000. And as mazorj indicated, we collectors
already know about coins in circulation. So it's not just the kids,
it's the public in general.

Jerry

Petronius

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Jan 17, 2010, 11:37:12 AM1/17/10
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"Jerry Dennis" <JDen...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Sadly, it isn't just the kids. I was in Wally World just yesterday, picking
> up a few items, and paid for them with three Taylor dollars. The cashier, who
> was at least as old as I am (57) saw them "all nice and shiny" and asked if I
> was sure I wanted to spend them. When I told her I could get as many as I
> wanted at any bank, she seemed shocked. Her reply, "Really?"

I have rec'd the same response when spending $2 bills.
The younger clerks mostly have never seen one and the older ones generally say
they haven't seen one in ages.


Dave Rutan

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Jan 17, 2010, 2:40:04 PM1/17/10
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Typically when I spend dollar coins I make it obvious that I'm handing
them a dollar coin. So far the worst response I've gotten is a 'What's
this?" from a dollar store cashier. She took it nonetheless.

Dave

Bruce Remick

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Jan 17, 2010, 2:46:44 PM1/17/10
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"Jerry Dennis" <JDen...@aol.com> wrote in message
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On Jan 17, 12:17?am, capri <prh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ?I tried an experiment at work this past week. I work with a bunch of

> younger people. kids in their
> early to mid 20's a few of them in their 30's. I bought 2 rolls of
> presidential dollars and took them ioto
> work and passed them out one to each person at the end of a weekly
> meeting and did not say a word.
> Most of them thought that they were some kind of tokens. One kid
> finally says "hey is this one those
> new dollar coins?" ?Then others ?"no it can't be there aren't any

> dollar coins", "looks like a token to me"
> I finally explained that it was indeed a dollar coin and had been out
> for a few years now. ?It was interesting

> to watch their excitment over the coin. "Hey, why don't we see more of
> these around?", "where can I get some?"
> "a dollar coin makes a lot of sense". ?Sure its these kids

> responsibility to learn about their environment and society and the
> money that they use but the mint really dropped the ball on educating
> the public about these coins.

Sadly, it isn't just the kids. I was in Wally World just yesterday,
picking up a few items, and paid for them with three Taylor dollars.
The cashier, who was at least as old as I am (57) saw them "all nice
and shiny" and asked if I was sure I wanted to spend them. When I
told her I could get as many as I wanted at any bank, she seemed
shocked. Her reply, "Really?" Remember, WalMart was THE push store
for Sacabux way back in 2000. And as mazorj indicated, we collectors
already know about coins in circulation. So it's not just the kids,
it's the public in general.

=================

For every 100 young people who might be unfamiliar with today's JFK's,
dollar coins, and $2 bills, there's another 100 who could make some older
coin collectors look foolish with talk about with tweets, texting, routers,
etc. After our education years have passed, many of us just learn about
what we're exposed to and what we need to know to get by in our daily lives.


Daniel

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Jan 17, 2010, 2:56:29 PM1/17/10
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"Bruce Remick" <rem...@cox.net> wrote in message
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=================

Heck, I have heard people complain and curse about why the "In God We Trust"
is missing on the coin, until I pointed out it is on the edge of the coin.


mazorj

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Jan 17, 2010, 2:52:11 PM1/17/10
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"Petronius" <P...@ron.ius> wrote in message
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I love it when they stand there scrutinizing it and holding it up to the
light. You just know that they're wondering if it's as, um, phony as a
3-dollar bill and pondering whether to call the manager over.

mazorj

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Jan 17, 2010, 3:10:17 PM1/17/10
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"Bruce Remick" <rem...@cox.net> wrote in message
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...


> For every 100 young people who might be unfamiliar with today's JFK's,
> dollar coins, and $2 bills, there's another 100 who could make some older
> coin collectors look foolish with talk about with tweets, texting,
> routers, etc. After our education years have passed, many of us just
> learn about what we're exposed to and what we need to know to get by in
> our daily lives.

I think you got the math wrong, Bruce. I count the first 100 + the second
100 = 200 kids out of all 200 who make me look like a doddering old
fuddy-duddy!

That's okay, though. I'll get even. I'm rewriting my will so that my
entire estate gets converted to $2 bills and dollar coins before being
passed to my heirs. At least my children will be thoroughly acquainted with
Hamiltons and dollar coins after I'm gone.

Petronius

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Jan 17, 2010, 4:30:15 PM1/17/10
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"mazorj" <maz...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> That's okay, though. I'll get even. I'm rewriting my will so that my entire
> estate gets converted to $2 bills and dollar coins before being passed to my
> heirs. At least my children will be thoroughly acquainted with Hamiltons and
> dollar coins after I'm gone.

Last time I looked, Hamilton was on the $10 bill and Tommy Jefferson on the
deuce...


mazorj

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Jan 17, 2010, 5:39:09 PM1/17/10
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"Petronius" <P...@ron.ius> wrote in message
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Doh! I wish somebody would market a version of Beano that prevents
brain farts.


mysteryroach

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Jan 17, 2010, 6:47:20 PM1/17/10
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> Typically when I spend dollar coins I make it obvious that I'm handing
> them a dollar coin. So far the worst response I've gotten is a 'What's
> this?" from a dollar store cashier.  She took it nonetheless.
>
> Dave-

i had one young lady ask me"is this, like, a dollar?" i replied, "yes,
it's just like a dollar"

ste...@no.spam.sbcglobal.net

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Jan 17, 2010, 7:15:16 PM1/17/10
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Hey !. I used to have a real $3 bill rfrom a bank in Tennessee, 1827. PS:
The Smithsonian flew a lead balloon about 30 years ago.

Lucky

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Jan 20, 2010, 6:31:34 AM1/20/10
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On Jan 17, 1:52�pm, "mazorj" <maz...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "Petronius" <P...@ron.ius> wrote in message
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> news:hivebb$idg$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
>
>
> > "Jerry Dennis" <JDen1...@aol.com> wrote in message

> >news:5acfb220-befc-4fcb...@c29g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> Sadly, it isn't just the kids. �I was in Wally World just yesterday,
> >> picking up a few items, and paid for them with three Taylor dollars. The
> >> cashier, who was at least as old as I am (57) saw them "all nice and
> >> shiny" and asked if I was sure I wanted to spend them. �When I told her I
> >> could get as many as I wanted at any bank, she seemed shocked. �Her
> >> reply, "Really?"
>
> > I have rec'd the same response when spending $2 bills.
> > The younger clerks mostly have never seen one and the older ones generally
> > say they haven't seen one in ages.
>
> I love it when they stand there scrutinizing it and holding it up to the
> light. �You just know that they're wondering if it's as, um, phony as a
> 3-dollar bill and pondering whether to call the manager over.

Add Ike dollars to that

Duh_OZ

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Jan 20, 2010, 12:26:56 PM1/20/10
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On Jan 17, 10:32 am, Jerry Dennis <JDen1...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Sadly, it isn't just the kids.  I was in Wally World just yesterday,
> picking up a few items, and paid for them with three Taylor dollars.
> The cashier, who was at least as old as I am (57) saw them "all nice
> and shiny" and asked if I was sure I wanted to spend them.  When I
> told her I could get as many as I wanted at any bank, she seemed
> shocked.  Her reply, "Really?"  Remember, WalMart was THE push store
> for Sacabux way back in 2000.  And as mazorj indicated, we collectors
> already know about coins in circulation.  So it's not just the kids,
> it's the public in general.
>
> Jerry
==============
One of my ex-managers tried to spend some dollar coins at a post
office and the clerk refused them. He explained their stamp machine
gave them back as change but it did no good. WTF!

I just pass around halves and $2's I guess I should toss in some of
the dollar coins and see if I get any reactions.

Speaking of dollar coins, back in 2007 I buried a few in the backyard
to see how they rang up on my metal detector. I wonder if I can find
them as I forgot where I buried them LOL.

Paul Anderson

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Jan 20, 2010, 10:38:16 PM1/20/10
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In article
<357e49a3-9c92-44ed...@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
Duh_OZ <ozzy....@gmail.com> wrote:

> One of my ex-managers tried to spend some dollar coins at a post
> office and the clerk refused them. He explained their stamp machine
> gave them back as change but it did no good.

I would report this to the Postal Service. I know they're a
quasi-governmental agency, but even so, for them to refuse a reasonable
amount of legal money is ridiculous. They should be one of the places
that should be using them on a regular basis, not refusing them.

If this happened to me, I would not leave until they accepted them as
payment. Failing that, I would return the stamps or whatever I had
purchased there and go to another post office.

Paul

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