I need help identifying this coin.
TheGreek
be appreciated.
part...@yahoo.com
I don't know exactly, but on the left image I can make out the word
"Zeelant". Zeeland (or Zealand) is one of the provinces of the
Netherlands, so you should probably focus your search on that area.
(My World Coin books only go back to 1801, otherwise I would have
tried looking it up myself.) Hope this helps,
Robert A. DeRose, Jr.
TheGreek
Good Stuff... Looking up some information on that province the Coat
of Arms is the same as on the coin, but the question still remains if
it is a coin from there or a colonial coin from New Amsterdam (New
York) but I think the date eliminates that possibility. Thanks again
I'm glad I have some starting point.
Mr. Jaggers
I believe it is a 6 stuiver coin made of .583 silver, dated 1684, not 1664.
The catalog number is KM50, and the type was made from 1672 through 1738 for
the Dutch state of Zeeland.
James
Mr. Jaggers
A lot of the Dutch provincial coins did indeed come to America in the purses
of immigrants, but they were all made in Europe for use in Europe.
James
ank...@aol.com
Check this out:
Page 130. "Coins of the United Provinces [aka Dutch Republic] found
in Ceylon. Hoedjes-schelling (lion couchant supporting hat on
spear). Zeeland from 1672 to 1750."
The Dutch were in Ceylon in the 17th century. It sure does look like
a hat on a spear on the reverse.
Hope this helps.
~Anka
ank...@aol.com
James,
Do you have a pic of the 6 stuiver with a lion w/ hat on spear
obverse? I can't seem to find one online. Also, can you supply a pic
of a KM#50?
http://www.rondomons.nl/index.php?page=coins&pid=11
Click on the camera for Hoedjesschelling 1683. The 6 stuiver coins
(with later dates) all have the ship obverse, aka Scheepjesschelling.
~Anka
ank...@aol.com
James,
I believe you're correct. I finally found something that makes
sense. Check this out:
http://de.mimi.hu/numismatik/hoedjesschelling.html
"Hoedjesschelling
Niederl�ndische Schillingm�nze (Hutschilling) zu 6 Stuiver, die
zwischen 1672 und 1783 von der Provinz Seeland ausgegeben wurde. Die
Rs. zeigt einen L�wen mit Speer, auf dessen Spitze die Freiheitsm�tze
zu sehen ist."
Translated, this is:
Netherlandish schilling coin (hat schilling) 6 stuivers, were spent
between 1672 and 1783 in the province of Zeeland . The obverse shows
a lion with a spear, on its the point can be seen a liberty cap.
~Anka
Mr. Jaggers
> On Feb 1, 3:26?pm, "Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote:
>> TheGreek wrote:
>>> would be appreciated.
>>
>>> http://picasaweb.google.com/Tdinoulis/Coin?feat=directlink
>>
>> I believe it is a 6 stuiver coin made of .583 silver, dated 1684,
>> not 1664. The catalog number is KM50, and the type was made from
>> 1672 through 1738 for the Dutch state of Zeeland.
>>
>> James
>
> James,
>
> Do you have a pic of the 6 stuiver with a lion w/ hat on spear
> obverse? I can't seem to find one online. Also, can you supply a pic
> of a KM#50?
>
> http://www.rondomons.nl/index.php?page=coins&pid=11
>
> Click on the camera for Hoedjesschelling 1683. The 6 stuiver coins
> (with later dates) all have the ship obverse, aka Scheepjesschelling.
The coin pictured on that webpage as a Hoedjesschelling of 1683 matches the
picture in both the 17th century and 18th century Krause Standard Catalogs
for KM50, except that it reads Zeelant, instead of Zeeland. I do not
consider that of any significance. The listing for 6 stuivers KM90, with
the ship, begins with coins dated 1750 and beyond.
James
Mr. Jaggers
> On Feb 1, 3:26?pm, "Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote:
>> TheGreek wrote:
>>> would be appreciated.
>>
>>> http://picasaweb.google.com/Tdinoulis/Coin?feat=directlink
>>
>> I believe it is a 6 stuiver coin made of .583 silver, dated 1684,
>> not 1664. The catalog number is KM50, and the type was made from
>> 1672 through 1738 for the Dutch state of Zeeland.
>>
>> James
>
> James,
>
> I believe you're correct. I finally found something that makes
> sense. Check this out:
>
> http://de.mimi.hu/numismatik/hoedjesschelling.html
>
> "Hoedjesschelling
> zwischen 1672 und 1783 von der Provinz Seeland ausgegeben wurde. Die
> zu sehen ist."
>
> Translated, this is:
>
> Netherlandish schilling coin (hat schilling) 6 stuivers, were spent
> between 1672 and 1783 in the province of Zeeland . The obverse shows
> a lion with a spear, on its the point can be seen a liberty cap.
I would assume that the date 1783 is a typo, as that date is not meaningful
to the catalog listings available to me. Transpose the last two digits to
1738, though, and you have the last known date of issue for the reclining
lion with spear motif.
James
TheGreek
>
> - Show quoted text -
Awesome info guys.. I really appreciate it. It's been bothering me
for the longest time. Out of curiousity.. is it worth anything?
Mr. Jaggers
For openers, your coin is bent, which has been partially responsible for its
uneven wear pattern. Secondly, it appears that there is a punch mark of
some sort beneath the lion's body, which has made a raised area on the
opposite side, making the uneven wear worse yet. If the coin were in
original Fine condition, which is indicated by the stronger part of the
design, it might retail for $25-$50, but with the damage and subsequent
uneven wear, its value is reduced, perhaps to the sentimental level. If I
owned the coin I would flatten out the bend as best I could, and keep it as
part of my collection. It's not everybody in your neighborhood who owns a
coin over 300 years old!
James
TheGreek
I didn;t think it was worth much. Thanks to everyone for their help.