unable to identity a coin
yawnmoth
Any ideas? It's aluminum for whatever that's worth.
Peter Irwin
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/31717414@N06/4312414413/
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> Any ideas? It's aluminum for whatever that's worth.
Israel 5 Agorot AM(5)727 - or 1967.
I think I have the year right. I'm not good with hebrew numbers
and I'm not positive I got the last digit (which is on the left)
correct.
Peter.
yawnmoth
Wow - I was off by a bit, heh. I was thinking some Asian country.
China, Japan and South Korea have aluminum coins and I figured this
was just another country in that area that I couldn't think of. Guess
not!
Anyway, thanks!
Mr. Jaggers
Israel is in Asia, so you were not off at all.
James
yawnmoth
Well, Southeast Asia. Personally, I consider the Middle East a region
distinct from mainland Asia just as Europe is often considered a
region distinct from mainland Asia.
Petronius
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Ditto for the subcontinent of India.
It is no longer politically correct to call certain Asians "oriental", but I
don't understand why...
mazorj
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Not to put too fine a point on it, but except for the two island
continents, the exact boundaries between continents are the result of
history and politics. Central America could have gone either way.
But you have to draw the lines somewhere. The Middle East is a region
of, but not "distinct from mainland Asia." It's entirely contiguous
with the main body of Asia. OTOH, Japan is in Asia and we don't refer
to it as "Japanese Asia," even though it's an island off of mainland
Asia. "Southeast Asia" is the proper and accurate description you
needed.
- mazorj the Geographer
Wm Hopkins
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I always understood that the people were "Asian" and objects were
"Oriental."
Mr. Jaggers
Check out a compass rose, Gentlemen, and you will find that the Middle
"East" is in SouthWEST Asia.
James the Navigator
Mr. Jaggers
The Middle East is still in Asia, no matter how you care to spin the facts,
just like the Midwest is in North America. But if you insist, Israel is in
SouthWEST Asia.
James the Belligerent
mazorj
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Yeah, I've often scratched my head over that too. It may come from
the Brits or other west Europeans, for whom Southeast Asia and even
central Asia was the "Far East". I guess they never got around to
defining the "Near East" which presumably would have included parts of
the Balkans because their culture had strong influences from across
the Bosporus. All of these terms are political/cultural, so they're
not strictly based in geography science.
mazorj
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Two reasons come to mind. First, in the 1800s "Orientals" became a
longstanding, moderately to significantly derogatory term in popular
usage. It often was the polite equivalent of "gooks" or "slant-eyes".
I can see why Asian immigrants came to resent it. More importantly,
"the Orient" originally meant all lands east ("orient") of Europe so
it's meaning is derived entirely from using Europe as the ethnocentric
reference point for the rest of the world. "Asian" is a neutral
geographic term.
I don't mind being called a "westerner" (or occidental, opposite of
oriental) but I might if I lived in a region where I was part of a
minority and it was used as a slur. And if the intended meaning was
"someone from the Great Satan America" then call me an American or
your meaning is too vague and encompasses everyone in Europe and
points west as far as Australia.
Mr. Jaggers
The word "oriental" derives from the Latin verb "to rise", and is so named
for the rising of the sun in the east. The opposite is "occidental" which
derives from the Latin verb "to fall", so named for the falling, or setting,
of the sun in the west. Thus, the Orient is the Eastern Hemisphere, in
which there is the Far East (Japan, China, Korea) and the Near East (Turkey,
Israel, Lebanon, Syria), both so named from the point of view of Europeans,
while the Occident is the Western Hemisphere, again from the point of view
of the Europeans, who named the hemispheres. The Near East is more often
referred to by Americans as the Middle East, due to its not really being
very near to the U.S. The definitions of all these terms have a tendency to
slosh around quite a bit.
James the Lexicographer
mazorj
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Oy, Wikipedia shows that while my hunch that the term originated with
a Brit was correct, it came into wide use only after an American
geopolitical strategist re-coined the term in 1902. I also stand
admonished that the term "Near East" was in use after then, too.
And as you suggest, the scope of the term "Middle East" sometimes
extended as far as the Indian border and down into northeast Africa.
Humpty Dumpty was right when he said that "A word means exactly what I
want it to mean. No more, and no less."
- mazorj the Occasionally Correct
Jud
> Near East is more often
> referred to by Americans as the Middle East, due to its not really being
> very near to the U.S. The definitions of all these terms have a tendency to
> slosh around quite a bit.
>
derogatory term around here.
Jud - Fenway Faithful
Mr. Jaggers
I'll make a note of that.
James the Wrigley Fielder
mazorj
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How can you scoop up a grounder or snag a pop fly if you're wiggling around
all the time out there?