Excellent New "Coin Sets of the World" Collection from The Franklin Mint...
MKW
time fan of Franklin Mint and yes they have gone through some changes
in the last 10 years but I am glad to see them doing some programs
that are completely developed and assembled by them....and they look
great. This is a new version of the old popular Franklin Mint program
titled coin sets of all nations. (http://www.franklinmint.com/
product1.aspx?SID=2&Product_ID=10676) The old program is long gone
but this one is far superior in style. The panels are excellent.
Some pics of the World Coin panels follows...if I can get it to work.
Also3 pics of Franklin Mint National Park quarter program
http://www.franklinmint.com/product1.aspx?SID=2&Product_ID=10018 (they
did not call it America the Beautiful..the US Mint will attack anyone
who tries to sell their products). You get enhanced quarter and
UNC..all in one panel. The price is right in line or cheaper than
what US mint charges for some packaged products.
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MKW
pics I took but not organized as I had planned. Will try again
http://www.franklinmint.com/product1.aspx?SID=2&Product_ID=10676
http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq263/mkwelbornjr/FM%20Stuff/FMCoinSetsoftheWorld-5.jpg
http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq263/mkwelbornjr/FM%20Stuff/FMCoinSetsoftheWorld-13.jpg
http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq263/mkwelbornjr/FM%20Stuff/FMCoinSetsoftheWorld-14.jpg
http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq263/mkwelbornjr/FM%20Stuff/FMCoinSetsoftheWorld-16.jpg
http://www.franklinmint.com/product1.aspx?SID=2&Product_ID=10018
http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq263/mkwelbornjr/FM%20Stuff/FMNationalParksQuarterPanels-2.jpg
http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq263/mkwelbornjr/FM%20Stuff/FMNationalParksQuarterPanels-7.jpg
http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq263/mkwelbornjr/FM%20Stuff/FMNationalParksQuarterPanels-5.jpg
oly
> Sorry...apparantly my links are messed up. So you can see some of the
> pics I took but not organized as I had planned. Will try again
>
>
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There's nothing wrong with collecting modern coins (U.S. or World or
both), but these "collections" are one of the stupidest possible ways
to go about it. One can get the real quarters for face or nor more
than fifty cents per example, and the colorized and other abortions
being offered aren't ever ever ever going to be considered desirable
by 90% of the persons in the numismatic community who do collect
contemporary coins.
Kid yourself...
oly
MKW
coin collectors. They like something that looks neat. They could
care less about serious graded coins or high value rare variations of
morgan dollars. The serious coin collector is a small part of that
group. The world coin panels are a stunning design. The blister
holders have to be tooled and developed for each coin size and shape.
Stunning.
Secondly collection should not be about value increase...should only
be about what is fun and enjoyable to collect. People like colorized
coins for that reason.
On Aug 14, 7:43 am, oly <oly2...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Aug 13, 11:26 pm, MKW <mwelbor...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Sorry...apparantly my links are messed up. So you can see some of the
> > pics I took but not organized as I had planned. Will try again
>
> >http://www.franklinmint.com/product1.aspx?SID=2&Product_ID=10676http:......
>
> >http://www.franklinmint.com/product1.aspx?SID=2&Product_ID=10018http:......
MKW
Mint..in the same manner one would collect Lionel Trains or Matchbox
cars. Colorized coins are not aimed at the coin collecting
community. Apparantly most progressive mints like Canadian Mint have
recognized the interest in colored coins. The US Mint is WAY behind
the curve with its boring product line.
MKW
proof finish was developed and pioneered by the Franklin Mint..who
during the 70's had the most comprehensive die making and sculpting
staff in the world.
Mr. Jaggers
> The mass public who likes colorized coins does not consist of serious
> coin collectors. They like something that looks neat. They could
> care less about serious graded coins or high value rare variations of
> morgan dollars. The serious coin collector is a small part of that
> group. The world coin panels are a stunning design. The blister
> holders have to be tooled and developed for each coin size and shape.
> Stunning.
Collecting colorized coins rests away from the hardcore numismatic end of
the continuum. It is doubtful that there will ever be books published which
identify minute die varieties and states, as is done in series such as large
cents and capped bust half dollars. But "neat" and "stunning" are entirely
in the eye of the beholder, and you have just as much right to define those
terms for yourself as anyone else has to do it for himself. I happen to
like U.S. large cents, but the reality is that those designs fail to depict
beauty, feminine or otherwise. I therefore have to derive my satisfaction
from them in other ways.
> Secondly collection should not be about value increase...should only
> be about what is fun and enjoyable to collect. People like colorized
> coins for that reason.
You are correct again. Many of those who fret about value increase take on
a burden that diminishes their enjoyment of the hobby. Collect what gives
you pleasure, say I. There's enough misery in the world to do it for any
other reason.
James
MKW
National Parks I think it works and thats why I like this program.
And other companies for a poorer job of creating the art used in
firing the decal to the coins. So they are not all the same. But the
medals and coins FM made are superior to anything any world mint has
produced. And although the minting facility is gone, they can still
develop some medals with their mintmark..which would be a must have.
Perhaps they will use Sunshine Mint who makes a good proof medal.
And here are a couple more pics of Franklin Mints presidential dollar
portfolio series....for the same price the US Mint was charging for
their defunct portfolio series.
http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq263/mkwelbornjr/FM%20Stuff/FMPresidential1CoinStampFolios-17.jpg
http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq263/mkwelbornjr/FM%20Stuff/FMPresidential1CoinStampFolios-19.jpg
And a stunning protrait of Reagan that FM created and sculpted
entirely in house.
http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq263/mkwelbornjr/FM%20Stuff/FMReaganBronzePortrait-1.jpg
Mr. Jaggers
Just for the record, MKW, it sure would help if you set your news account to
display the text that you are responding to, and then post underneath it.
Otherwise, your posts appear to be non-sequitur.
James
oly
I collect coins as historic artifacts, but sometimes I also put away
modern "stuff" that seems to me to have the potential to be
interesting to someone, some day. I am not deluding myself whether or
not I have any heirs who will ever give a shit (I do not have any such
persons close to me), nor about the "stuffs'" potential for price
appreciation
One of the few ways that I personally react with the active U.S. coin
"market" or "industry" is that I, like many, get asked to look at
accumulations/ collections held by older folks or at their estates
with an eye how to sell off a bunch of "stuff". Trust me, I always go
look, don't blow-off the chance, and I have occasionally stumbled
accross some really good numismatic treasures. But I mostly see lots
of "stuff", stuff that I myself remember being originally marketed in
the 1970s or 1980s (especially "stuff" from the time of the U.S.
Bicentennial) and my reaction was the same today as it was when I saw
the original advertisments - "Why the hell would anybody but that
junk?". Back in the 1970s, the real numismatic artifacts were cheap
enough in comparison to the "junk", and (with 20-20 hindsight) it was
obviously better to avoid the novelty and phoney baloney markets.
I hold that the same is true today. I am no longer young enough for
time to be my ally (and, thankfully, still young enough that time
isn't my pursuing personal enemy), but if you are young, please please
buy coins that are established historical artifacts; they will buy you
numismatic "pride of ownership" today and yes, a pretty decent chance
for price appreciation if your holding time is a decade or more. The
modern "stuff" vended by certain marketing organizations are unlikely
to fulfill either ideal.
The original Franklin Mint "stuff" typically had the advantages of
being nicely designed and struck, and their original "stuff" was
usually made in good silver. This bullion factor was highly important
in 1979-80 and it allowed some people who had been rather badly stuck
to get out with some decent percentage of their money. The old
Franklin Mint did a lot of things to confuse people about how much
silver they were actually receiving, but when metals prices shot
through the roof, there was still a readily determinable melt value.
Such a happy outcome won't happen with what's being sold today, as the
"stuff" is copper-nickel at best. Also, all should note that the
physical plant and assets of a ceratin private mint that existed in
the 1960s and 1970s has been sold off and disbursed long ago. A
certain capacity for fine minting that existed thirty years ago no
longer exists. Don't be confused by corporation names and coproation
games.
I would strongly encourage that any person really interest should find
out and pay the "real" prices for state quarters, national park
quarters, etc. offered by and through the "real" numismatic dealer
community. Even better yet, buy those pieces only when you really
have "money-to-burn" in your pockets.
Now how can I get rid of some of my closets of "stuff" and buy that
Queen Mary II copper death medal that I want?
oly
MKW
On Aug 14, 1:38 pm, "Mr. Jaggers" <lugburz...@yahonospamo.com> wrote:
>
> Just for the record, MKW, it sure would help if you set your news account to
> display the text that you are responding to, and then post underneath it.
> Otherwise, your posts appear to be non-sequitur.
>
> James- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
MKW
superb. Its not about how much precious metal is in it or the
investment potential. Its about the quality. The free wood cases back
in the 70's from FM were handmade in the USA out of hardwood. Thats a
treasure in itself. All coins, medals, pewter, silver plates...were
made in USA by FM.
As a side note, I have purchased some diecast cars from FM for $90
later selling them for $500+. I like these panel coin series for
looks and the fun of getting them in the mail on a regular basis. If
I want a CC Morgan I will got to a coin dealer. Its apples and
oranges. And there will always be some kid who inherited something
only caring about what its worth. Seems younger people these days do
not care about family heirlooms.
>
> I would strongly encourage that any person really interest should find
> out and pay the "real" prices for state quarters, national park
> quarters, etc. offered by and through the "real" numismatic dealer
> community. Even better yet, buy those pieces only when you really
> have "money-to-burn" in your pockets.
>
> Now how can I get rid of some of my closets of "stuff" and buy that
> Queen Mary II copper death medal that I want?
>
> oly- Hide quoted text -
Mr. Jaggers
You're getting warm! Now, just post below the quoted text and you'll be
100%.
James
Mr. Jaggers
First, the OP was expressing his delight in what he had done, not asking
anyone for advice.
Of course, it behooves us who have information that might benefit the OP to
offer it unsolicited. However, suggesting that the coins of his choice are
"abortions" goes way over the top. But I'll write off your snarky remark as
youthful indiscretion, leave it to MKW to come to his own conclusion, and
move on.
James
oly
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If he wants to buy them from that vendor, fine, at least he's not
running up the bids on the "historic artifacts" elsewhere.
I do greatly admire his Ronald Reagan statuette. I've already run a
search on ebay for it.
oly
Mr. Jaggers
Was that statuette inspired by one of his movies?
J
Bremick
"MKW" <mwelb...@aol.com> wrote in message
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The craftsmanship of all 1970's and most later FM products was
superb. Its not about how much precious metal is in it or the
investment potential. Its about the quality. The free wood cases back
in the 70's from FM were handmade in the USA out of hardwood. Thats a
treasure in itself. All coins, medals, pewter, silver plates...were
made in USA by FM.
As a side note, I have purchased some diecast cars from FM for $90
later selling them for $500+. I like these panel coin series for
looks and the fun of getting them in the mail on a regular basis. If
I want a CC Morgan I will got to a coin dealer. Its apples and
oranges. And there will always be some kid who inherited something
only caring about what its worth. Seems younger people these days do
not care about family heirlooms.
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These days it seems more younger people don't even care about family. They
usually do suddenly become interested in any "heirlooms" after their folks
pass away. But if they don't happen to find daddy's FM medal collection to
be particularly inspiring, why wouldn't you expect them to check to see if
it's worth anything? I wouldn't put a collection of modern medals in the
same "heirloom" category as a unique portrait or photo of great grandparents
or a quilt or sampler made before the Civil War by an ancestor, items that
should be retained somewhere in the family if possible.
MKW
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Yes it was a movie based portrait I believe. It can only be purchased
through the Reagan Museum. Its hot cast. Sculpted by Ralph Beinart,
who is probably one of the best 3-D portrait sculptors.
More pics:
http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq263/mkwelbornjr/FM%20Stuff/FMReaganBronzePortrait-12.jpg
http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq263/mkwelbornjr/FM%20Stuff/FMReaganBronzePortrait-11.jpg
http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq263/mkwelbornjr/FM%20Stuff/FMReaganBronzePortrait-2.jpg
MKW
past. Jim Licaretz started sculpting on the staff of Franklin Mint's
porcelain division "Franklin Porcelain." FM built an american
porcelain factory in 1977 at Rockdale PA to manufacture porcelain of
top quality. They brought over the top staff from Royal Worcestor in
England to help jump start the operation. Over the years, porcelain
production was shifted overseas.