National September 11 Memorial & Museum Commemorative Coin Act of 2009
Arizona Coin Collector
National September 11 Memorial & Museum Commemorative
Coin Act of 2009 (Introduced in House)
HR 3549 IH
111th CONGRESS
1st Session
H. R. 3549
To require the Secretary of the Treasury to mint coins
in commemoration of the 10th anniversary of the
September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the United
States and the establishment of the National
September 11 Memorial & Museum at the World Trade
Center.
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
September 10, 2009
Mr. NADLER of New York (for himself, Ms. CLARKE,
Mr. HIGGINS, Mr. MCMAHON, Mr. CROWLEY, Mr. ENGEL,
Mrs. MALONEY, Mr. BISHOP of New York, Mr. MAFFEI,
Mrs. MCCARTHY of New York, Mr. HALL of New York,
Mr. MEEKS of New York, Mr. HINCHEY, Mr. RANGEL,
Mr. SERRANO, Ms. SLAUGHTER, Mr. TOWNS, Mrs. LOWEY,
Ms. VELAZQUEZ, Mr. KING of New York, Mr. LEE of
New York, Mr. TONKO, Mr. ACKERMAN, Mr. ISRAEL,
Mr. MASSA, Mr. PERRIELLO, Mr. ALTMIRE,
Mr. THOMPSON of Pennsylvania, Mr. PIERLUISI,
Ms. BORDALLO, Mr. PATRICK J. MURPHY of
Pennsylvania, Ms. RICHARDSON, Ms. SCHWARTZ,
Mr. DOYLE, Mr. MORAN of Virginia,
Ms. ROS-LEHTINEN, Mr. SESTAK, Ms. PINGREE of Maine,
Mr. HIMES, Mr. CONNOLLY of Virginia, Mr. MEEK of
Florida, Ms. LORETTA SANCHEZ of California,
Ms. DELAURO, Mr. SHUSTER, Mr. CASTLE, Ms. MATSUI,
Mr. ARCURI, Mr. WEINER, Mr. MCHUGH, and Mr. MURPHY
of New York) introduced the following bill; which
was referred to the Committee on Financial Services
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A BILL
To require the Secretary of the Treasury to mint
coins in commemoration of the 10th anniversary of
the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the
United States and the establishment of the National
September 11 Memorial & Museum at the World
Trade Center.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of
Representatives of the United States of America in
Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the `National September 11
Memorial & Museum Commemorative Coin Act of 2009'.
SEC. 2. COIN SPECIFICATIONS.
(a) $1 Silver Coins- The Secretary of the Treasury
(hereinafter in this Act referred to as the
`Secretary') shall mint and issue not more than
2,000,000 $1 coins in commemoration of the 10th
anniversary of the September 11, 2001, terrorist
attacks on the United States and the establishment
of the National September 11 Memorial & Museum at
the World Trade Center, each of which shall--
(1) weigh 26.73 grams;
(2) have a diameter of 1.500 inches; and
(3) contain 90 percent silver and 10 percent
copper.
(b) Legal Tender- The coins minted under this Act
shall be legal tender, as provided in section 5103
of title 31, United States Code.
(c) Numismatic Items- For purposes of sections 5134
and 5136 of title 31, United States Code, all coins
minted under this Act shall be considered to be
numismatic items.
SEC. 3. DESIGN OF COINS.
(a) Design Requirements-
(1) IN GENERAL- The design of the coins minted under
this Act shall be emblematic of the courage,
sacrifice, and strength of those individuals who
perished in the terrorist attacks of
September 11, 2001, the bravery of those who risked
their lives to save others that day, and the
endurance, resilience, and hope of those who
survived.
(2) DESIGNATION AND INSCRIPTIONS- On each coin
minted under this Act, there shall be--
(A) a designation of the value of the coin;
(B) an inscription of the year `2011';
(C) inscriptions of the words `Liberty', `In God
We Trust', `United States of America', and
`E Pluribus Unum'; and
(D) an inscription of the words `Always Remember'.
(b) Selection- The design for the coins minted under
this Act shall be--
(1) selected by the Secretary, after consultation
with the National September 11 Memorial & Museum at
the World Trade Center and the Commission of Fine
Arts; and
(2) reviewed by the Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee.
SEC. 4. ISSUANCE OF COINS.
(a) Quality of Coins- Coins minted under this Act shall
be issued in uncirculated and proof qualities.
(b) Mint Facility-
(1) IN GENERAL- Only 2 facilities of the United States
Mint may be used to strike coins minted under this Act.
(2) USE OF THE UNITED STATES MINTS AT WEST POINT, NEW
YORK, AND PHILADELPHIA, PENNSYLVANIA- It is the sense
of Congress that, to the extent possible, approximately
one-half of the coins to be minted under this Act
should be struck at the United States Mint at West
Point, New York, and approximately one-half struck at
the United States Mint at Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
(3) PERIOD OF ISSUANCE- The Secretary may issue coins
under this Act only during the calendar year beginning
on January 1, 2011.
SEC. 5. SALE OF COINS.
(a) Sale Price- The coins issued under this Act shall
be sold by the Secretary at a price equal to the
sum of--
(1) the face value of the coins;
(2) the surcharge provided in section 6 with respect
to such coins; and
(3) the cost of designing and issuing the coins
(including labor, materials, dies, use of machinery,
overhead expenses, marketing, and shipping).
(b) Bulk Sales- The Secretary shall make bulk sales
of the coins issued under this Act at a reasonable
discount.
(c) Prepaid Orders-
(1) IN GENERAL- The Secretary shall accept prepaid
orders for the coins minted under this Act before the
issuance of such coins.
(2) DISCOUNT- Sale prices with respect to prepaid
orders under paragraph (1) shall be at a reasonable
discount.
SEC. 6. SURCHARGES.
(a) In General- All sales of coins issued under this
Act shall include a surcharge of $10 per coin.
(b) Distribution- Subject to section 5134(f) of title
31, United States Code, all surcharges received by
the Secretary from the sale of coins issued under this
Act shall be paid to the National September 11
Memorial & Museum at the World Trade Center to support
the operations and maintenance of the National
September 11 Memorial & Museum at the World Trade
Center following its completion.
(c) Audits- The Comptroller General of the United States
shall have the right to examine such books, records,
documents, and other data of the National September 11
Memorial & Museum at the World Trade Center as may be
related to the expenditures of amounts paid under
subsection (b).
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Mr. Jaggers
> National September 11 Memorial & Museum Commemorative
> Coin Act of 2009 (Introduced in House)
>
> HR 3549 IH
>
>
> 111th CONGRESS
>
> 1st Session
>
> H. R. 3549
> To require the Secretary of the Treasury to mint coins
> in commemoration of the 10th anniversary of the
> September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the United
> States and the establishment of the National
> September 11 Memorial & Museum at the World Trade
> Center.
What a ghastly idea. It seems to me that our legislators have other,
mightily more pressing issues to deal with.
James the Outspoken
Arizona Coin Collector
"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
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> Arizona Coin Collector wrote:
Hello James
When I read the bill and saw the number of members of House Of
Representatives who also signoff on the bill, there has to be a very
popular support among the people for this act.
I cannot see a single design coin for all three locations. Maybe three
silver coins with a different design on just one side perhaps.
(New York, Pennsylvania, and Maryland)
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Mr. Jaggers
> "Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
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>
>> Arizona Coin Collector wrote:
>
>>> National September 11 Memorial & Museum Commemorative
>>> Coin Act of 2009 (Introduced in House)
>>>
>>> HR 3549 IH
>>>
>>>
>>> 111th CONGRESS
>>>
>>> 1st Session
>>>
>>> H. R. 3549
>>> To require the Secretary of the Treasury to mint coins
>>> in commemoration of the 10th anniversary of the
>>> September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the United
>>> States and the establishment of the National
>>> September 11 Memorial & Museum at the World Trade
>>> Center.
>>
>> What a ghastly idea. It seems to me that our legislators have other,
>> mightily more pressing issues to deal with.
>>
>> James the Outspoken
>>
>
> Hello James
>
> When I read the bill and saw the number of members of House Of
> Representatives who also signoff on the bill, there has to be a very
> popular support among the people for this act.
No, there doesn't. Support on the part of a special interest group
promising campaign contributions perhaps, but popular support among the
people? Surely you jest.
James the Belligerent
Bruce Remick
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> "Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
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>> Arizona Coin Collector wrote:
>
>>> National September 11 Memorial & Museum Commemorative
>>> Coin Act of 2009 (Introduced in House)
>>>
>>> HR 3549 IH
>>>
>>>
>>> 111th CONGRESS
>>>
>>> 1st Session
>>>
>>> H. R. 3549
>>> To require the Secretary of the Treasury to mint coins
>>> in commemoration of the 10th anniversary of the
>>> September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the United
>>> States and the establishment of the National
>>> September 11 Memorial & Museum at the World Trade
>>> Center.
>>
>> What a ghastly idea. It seems to me that our legislators have other,
>> mightily more pressing issues to deal with.
>>
>> James the Outspoken
>>
>
> Hello James
>
> When I read the bill and saw the number of members of House Of
> Representatives who also signoff on the bill, there has to be a very
> popular support among the people for this act.
How many members do you suppose actually checked to see how their
constituants felt about it? And how many of those constituants do you you
think will ever see one of those $1 silver coins, or even be aware they
exist? Sounds to me like one more vehicle where members of Congress can
drape themselves in the flag without really having to put out any effort in
doing so.
Mr. Jaggers
Bruce, you've been hanging around the likes of me way too much. 8>)
James the Flagman
Bruce Remick
"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
You mean you've been a critic of the $1 homeless orphans coin and the $5
crumbling infrastructure reverse proof specimen, too?
Thomas A.
I am totally serious here and not one bit sarcastic. Commems don't
generally have any circulation to speak of and largely go unnoticed by most
of the public anyhow; it's just their nature.
Why do you feel this is such a bad idea? It's just another way of saying
thanks to the people who responded so bravely to such a horrible and
shocking event. It's not a great idea, but it seems to me as good as most
and better than some.
Again, I am NOT trying to start a fight - I am just honestly interested in
your opinions so that maybe I can look at this event in a more enlightened
way.
Bruce Remick
"Thomas A." <sp...@noXQJZspam.org> wrote in message
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I think that's the crux of the issue to me. Nobody but collectors see them.
Congressmen waving the flag as if they've really "fought" (how I HATE that
usage by politicians!) for something. Who wouldn't want to be "for" such a
thing? So why champion an otherwise worthy cause in a way where the fruits
are transparent to 94% of the public? We've already seen what
over-commemorating did to stamp collecting, what over-commemorating did to
coin collecting in the 1930's and 1940's, blah. Blah.. Commemorative
overkill, IMO.
And we've seen so many "yellow ribbons" used for so many causes now that
they have become essentially irrelevant.
>
> Why do you feel this is such a bad idea? It's just another way of saying
> thanks to the people who responded so bravely to such a horrible and
> shocking event. It's not a great idea, but it seems to me as good as most
> and better than some.
The cause notwithstanding, I just feel it's a phony prop that Congressmen
can attach their names to, as if this somehow will elevate them in the eyes
of any potential voters who actually pay attention at campaign time.
>
> Again, I am NOT trying to start a fight - I am just honestly interested in
> your opinions so that maybe I can look at this event in a more enlightened
> way.
Just my own take. Doesn't mean anyone else should think the same way at
all. If we all agreed on everything there would only be a need for one of
us.
Bruce
Oooooo! Pick me! Pick me!
Thomas A.
I understand now and completely agree with your viewpoint.
Mr. Jaggers
All along.
James the Contrarian
Mr. Jaggers
Me, too!
James the Conformist
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Native Nashvillian
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> gee, you guys don't like commemorative coins?
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Hello
Here are two links (below) that list all commemorative
coins from 1982 through 2010. Only one commemorative
coin (so far), has been signed into law for 2010.
No decision has been made on 2011 and 2012 on
commemorative coins yet.
(2008 THROUGH 2010 commemorative coins)
http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/?action=commemoratives
(1982 THROUGH 2007 commemorative coins)
http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/commemoratives/index.cfm?action=modern
As of 09/14/2009, a total of 24 commemorative coin acts has been
introduce in the 111th Congress since 01/01/2009. Below are 14
of them I listed. The number of coin bills appears to be higher this
year.
1) Ronald Reagan Commemorative Coin Act of 2009 / HR 3341 IH
2) United States Marshals Service 225th Anniversary
Commemorative Coin Act / HR 2799 IH
3) NASA 50th Anniversary Commemorative Coin Act / HR 255 IH
4) Girl Scouts USA Centennial Commemorative Coin Act / HR 621 IH
(Also see the senate version / S 451)
5) 5-Star Generals Commemorative Coin Act / HR 1177
(See Senate version / S 455 IS)
6) Mark Twain Commemorative Coin Act / HR 1195 IH
(Also see Senate version S 483 IS)
7) Medal of Honor Commemorative Coin Act of 2009
(Referred to Senate Committee after being passed in the
House) / HR1209.RFS
8) Revolutionary War and War of 1812 Battlefields
Commemorative Coin Act of 2009 / HR 2001
9) Star-Spangled Banner Commemorative Coin Act
(Referred to Senate Committee after being passed in the
House) / HR2097.RFS
(Also see Senate version S 653 IS)
10) 1863 Gettysburg Campaign Act / HR 2123 IH
11) Robert M. La Follette, Sr. Commemorative Coin
Act / HR 2318 IH
12) Mother's Day Centennial Commemorative Coin
Act / HR 2421 IH
13) United States Marshals Service 225th Anniversary
Commemorative Coin Act / HR 2799 IH
14) National Future Farmers of America Commemorative
Coin Act of 2009 / HR 3464 IH
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Jerry Dennis
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>
>
> > gee, you guys don't like commemorative coins?
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Hello
>
> Here are two links (below) that list all commemorative
> coins from 1982 through 2010. Only one commemorative
> coin (so far), has been signed into law for 2010.
>
> No decision has been made on 2011 and 2012 on
> commemorative coins yet.
>
>
> (1982 THROUGH 2007 commemorative coins)http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/commemoratives/index.cfm?action=m...
Seems like a significant waste of time and an abuse of
commemoratives. I would support NASA's 50th Anniversary and Mark
Twain.
Jerry
oly
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How can you oppose such a wholesome organization like Future Farmers
of America???
oly
Jud
I really don't know how I feel about this commemorative coin. On one
hand, my numismatic hand, I have to agree that there are FAR too many,
with little to commemorate. Yes, this killed the stamp collecting
market, and also brought a halt to the coin programs 50 years ago. I
have ranted about all the NCLT stuff coming from the Australian and
Canadian mints in the past. So I do see the point. That is my
numismatic hand.
OTOH, my practical hand, I see these programs as worthy in that they
don't use tax dollars, and are used towards building/maintaining
projects that probably wouldn't be done without my VOLUNTARY
contribution. I support some programs and am 'ho-hum' about others. As
a coin collector, I wrote to my Senator to support the Old San
Francisco Mint commemorative program (and she did co-sponsor it), and
as a former Marine, I also did the same for that coin as well. The
events of 9/11 have changed the way EVERYTHING is done now, and
EVERYONE was affected by it (possibly me more than most...but that's
another story).
So, that is the quandry I find myself in. I feel that this program is
worthy, and guess that I will write to my Senator again urging her
support.
Jud - I will never forget
God bless America
oly
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You know, the kids have to learn how to apply for the farm subsidy
programs somewhere... might as well be someplace that gives 'em a
nifty blue denim jacket with great embroidery...
oly
Bruce Remick
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oly
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Maybe because there apparently are so few future farmers left in the U.S.
I do remember in high school in the '50's that the FFA was a pretty well
established organization with quite a few members, even though we weren't a
"farm" state in RI. Those blue courderoy jackets were cool, too.
And I always felt that mothers should rate much more than a "Day". No coin
though, unless part of daily wages.
Mr. Jaggers
That's the outfit that, on a field trip to the farm, uncovered a covered-up
moonshine still and done drank
their fill, first time for everything, bbbbbb my ears still ring, chugalug,
chugalug.
James the [hic] Inebriated
'hie-dee-ho'
Jeff R.
> Rock/Jud/Hard Place
> I really don't know how I feel about this commemorative coin.
Well said.
To add... these pieces of numismatic dross will never appreciate
(significantly) over time, unless the Mint (yours or mine) introduces
artificial scarcity. Everyone knows this, so no-one is going to be silly
enough to buy NCLT as an "investment". (Are they?)
Thusly no-one can really claim being ripped off if they choose to
participate in this federal fundraising program.
Me? I just can't bring myself to buy any of the mint offerings, with the
singular exception of the annual proof sets - and that's purely to admire
the craftsmanship. I know they won't appreciate.
I could be tempted to go for some high relief replicas of colonial coinage,
though... ...but Rolf Harris with a didgeridoo? Give me a break.
--
Jeff R.
(sweltering in smoky old Sydney)
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amazing considering half the school was army brats.
som...@some.domain
Mr. Jaggers
Isn't that more properly written "revenooers"? 8>)
James the Spellchecker
oly
> "oly" <oly2...@aol.com> wrote in message
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In recent years, it seems that if our local high schools (of several
hundred students in each school) have twenty or thirty FFA members,
perhaps no more than 4 or 5 of them have any realistic shot at ever
becoming actual farmers. Farming today is almost like being a member
of the British aristocracy - you have to be born to it.
The jackets are blue corduroy, my bad earlier.
oly
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Bruce Remick
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Hey, you don now what yuve ben misser!
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and death by convulsions?
strait edge since 82.
The Giant Brain
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>>> i don't know, i don't drink.
>>
>>Hey, you don now what yuve ben misser!
>>
>>
> you mean the expense, liver damage, loss of employment and family, the dt's
> and death by convulsions?
Well sure, if you just want to look at the bad side! ;-)
som...@some.domain
against alcohol, i converted a bike to burn it and it's happy.
i don't like drugs. they dull the hatred....
Bruce Remick
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Almost 70 years now-- beer still far cheaper than Starbucks, organs working
fine, enjoying retirement as much as my former working career, family as
close as ever. I'll admit though, I'm worried. Do those convulsions last
long?
som...@some.domain
Bruce Remick
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Don't have to use Depends yet, either. Time? Time for a cold one, I'd say.
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Jerry Dennis
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I guess I should have qualified my response. I have no problem with
supporting the FFA and 4H. They're both fine organizations,
especially here in the mountains of NY (my area is heavily diary).
My personal preference for NASA is that it was they that accomplished
the so-called impossible, putting men on the moon and returning them
safely back. As for Mark Twain, he's my all time favorite author.
Jerry
Mr. Jaggers
> On Sep 19, 8:15?pm, oly <oly2...@aol.com> wrote:
>>> Twain.
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>> How can you oppose such a wholesome organization like Future Farmers
>> of America???
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>> oly- Hide quoted text -
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>
> I guess I should have qualified my response. I have no problem with
> supporting the FFA and 4H. They're both fine organizations,
> especially here in the mountains of NY (my area is heavily diary).
>
> My personal preference for NASA is that it was they that accomplished
> the so-called impossible, putting men on the moon and returning them
> safely back. As for Mark Twain, he's my all time favorite author.
I bet you haven't read Twain's masterpiece "1601, or Conversation by the
Tudor Fireside."
James the Somewhat Obscene
Jerry Dennis
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You got me there, James. That one I haven't read.
Jerry
Mr. Jaggers
>>> supporting the FFA and 4H. ?They're both fine organizations,
>>> especially here in the mountains of NY (my area is heavily diary).
>>
>>> My personal preference for NASA is that it was they that
>>> accomplished the so-called impossible, putting men on the moon and
>>> favorite author.
>>
>> I bet you haven't read Twain's masterpiece "1601, or Conversation by
>> the Tudor Fireside."
>>
>> James the Somewhat Obscene- Hide quoted text -
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>> - Show quoted text -
>
> You got me there, James. That one I haven't read.
It's not for someone who is easily offended by frank language. It is
noteworthy, though, that Twain originally wrote out a copy for the
entertainment of his preacher friend, one Reverend Twitchell. His stated
purpose was to "practice his archaics" in preparation for the writing of The
Prince and the Pauper.
James of Virginal Eyes
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heinlein's for us the lving could appear in reader's digest without raisings
an eyebrow. it was considered too sexual in 1939.
Mr. Jaggers
So, do I understand that you have read "1601" and find it suitable for the
RD? I rather take issue.
James
Peter Irwin
>
> So, do I understand that you have read "1601" and find it suitable for the
> RD? I rather take issue.
>
I find much of Twain riotously funny. If I had reached adulthood
in an era when there were rules and conventions about what you could
put in print, I suspect it would have worked.
Peter.
--
pir...@ktb.net
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of men's magazines. it was smutty unless i'm mixing it with autobiography
of a flea. that was just bad 18th century porn.
wasn't 1601 smutty and preachy, both?
Mr. Jaggers
I don't think it ever was available from such ads. Most readers have to
trudge through it, due to the archaic spelling. It was recited in more
modern-sounding English by Richard Dyer-Bennet on an LP of his own label
sometime in the 1960s and could still be had into the mid-70s. Print
versions were not generally available until the University of Tennessee
Press published it in an anthology entitled Mark Twain Laughing, which
remains in print. It was most certainly not preachy. Smutty? I rather
prefer "earthy" as an adjective. Still on the other side of the universe
from Reader's Digest, though.
James the Cosmologist