Where are all the posters.
George D
server or what?
--
The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not.
Thomas Jefferson
Jud
George, I have noticed the same. Hell, even the spammers and trolls
are noticeably absent!
Arizona Coin Collector
"George D" <geo...@arizona.com> wrote in message
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> Seems like all the posters have gone away the last few days. Just my
> server or what?
> --
Hello
I see all your postings ok. Cox Cable may not like
Net Neutrality rules soon to be imposed on the
public Internet.
http://tech.yahoo.com/news/pcworld/20090922/tc_pcworld/battlelinesdrawninfccnetneutralityfight_1
..
Arizona Coin Collector
"Jud" <numis...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Hello Jud
I even see the posting from Road Runner as well.
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mazorj
I see 11 posts stamped for 9/22/09, similar numbers for preceding days.
The Giant Brain
They all probably grew weary of your using a made-up quote from one of our
greatest presidents to further your hateful, right-wing sentiments.
Newbie
"The Giant Brain" <gi...@brain.invalid> wrote in message
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Mr. Jaggers
> Online research shows the quote and author to be very accurate.
The only research accepted by historians is that conducted via contemporary,
primary sources, and even those are subject to verification in other similar
sources. A course in historiography will drive this point home. The term
itself, as well as its implications for historical accuracy and
dependability, is generally not understood or even recognized by
non-specialists. I invite you to familiarize yourself with this term in
case you have not encountered it before.
Assuming that you do, in fact, know and understand the historiographical
procedure, I challenge you to direct me to an online, primary source that
supports your claim.
James
Mr. Jaggers
You rang?
James the Heckler
George D
I started a coin related post why don't you try and maybe we can liven
this place up.
George the optimist....
--
Government is a voracious monster that must have your labor to control
YOU! Your money is your liberty. The taxes you pay gently enslave you,
and eventually destroy any human liberty you have. Fear government, pray
for the country.
Mr. Jaggers
> Mr. Jaggers wrote:
>> Jud wrote:
>>> On Sep 23, 9:54 am, George D <geod...@arizona.com> wrote:
>>>> Seems like all the posters have gone away the last few days. Just
>>>> my server or what?
>>>> --
>>>> The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
>>>> who are willing to work and give to those who would not.
>>>> Thomas Jefferson
>>> George, I have noticed the same. Hell, even the spammers and trolls
>>> are noticeably absent!
>>
>> You rang?
>>
>> James the Heckler
>>
>>
> Yep
>
> I started a coin related post why don't you try and maybe we can liven
> this place up.
I've tried a few times, but get very few takers. I don't think people are
really interested in the kind of in-depth discussion of coins that will keep
a thread going. Now get into politics and religion, that's what draws them
out...8>)
James the Theocrat
Peter Irwin
> Newbie wrote:
>> Online research shows the quote and author to be very accurate.
>
> The only research accepted by historians is that conducted via contemporary,
> primary sources, and even those are subject to verification in other similar
> sources. A course in historiography will drive this point home.
There are so many phony quotations floating around that you
have to be very careful not to be misled. Modern editions of
the Oxford, Yale and Bartlett's books are very carefully
fact-checked. But popular books of quotations, even by very
well intentioned authors, are traps for the unwary because
the authors often do not understand the rule that you absolutely
cannot trust secondary sources unless they are preserving material
which is otherwise lost, and even then you must note where you got
it. With ancient authors it is very common that we only have
material preserved in the writings of other authors, and sometimes
private communications in modern times where we can have only the
recipient's account.
A quotation floating around on the internet for which you cannot
find a reference to a primary source (or the best existing evidence
for lost works and private communications) is very very suspect.
If ten minutes of efficient searching on Google and Google Books
for a quotation by a famous person turns up only people who repeat
but don't know exactly where it can be verified, then there is a
really strong chance it is phony. Sometimes quotes with a reference
are phony too, you do need to look up the source.
Peter.
--
pir...@ktb.net
Mr. Jaggers
Thank you!
James the Appreciative
som...@some.domain
-some wild optimist
Mr. Jaggers
Now there's one quote properly attributed!
James the Yeasayer
The Giant Brain
"Newbie" <Badgol...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Online research shows the quote and author to be very accurate.
Please show your "proof".
Mr. Jaggers
The problem here is with the online sources, which are, essentially, likely
to be clones of an original fabricated citation, which may have long ago
disappeared. Once spurious information goes electronic, the Internet is a
most efficient vector.
Location of the quote in Jefferson's own hand would, of course, be the
primary source. Without cross-reference to the original, anything other
than that must be classified as hearsay.
The concept of teaching students to be critical thinkers may receive lip
service in published education standards and objectives, but its
implementation and testing are normally assigned very low priority.
James
gogu
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>On Sep 23, 9:54 am, George D <geod...@arizona.com> wrote:
>> Seems like all the posters have gone away the last few days. Just my
>> server or what?
>George, I have noticed the same. Hell, even the spammers and trolls
>are noticeably absent!
Thank G-d!!!
gogu
news:OdEum.48660$3D4....@en-nntp-05.dc1.easynews.com...
> "don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you read!"
> -some wild optimist
LOL
A good one:-)
Michael Benveniste
<Badgol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Online research shows the quote and author to be very accurate.
Counterpoint:
http://snipurl.com/s4ty8 [wiki_monticello_org]
--
Mike Benveniste -- m...@murkyether.com (Clarification Required)
Its name is Public opinion. It is held in reverence. It settles
everything. Some think it is the voice of God. -- Mark Twain
Mr. Jaggers
> On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:16:38 -0600, "Newbie"
> <Badgol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Online research shows the quote and author to be very accurate.
>
> Counterpoint:
> http://snipurl.com/s4ty8 [wiki_monticello_org]
While I rather agree with this website's thesis, it, too, must be rejected,
inasmuch as it purports to prove a negative.
James