Questionable "Stack's" Pedigree
Bob
from a well-known dealer, which gives a sense of security that the
piece is genuine. Here is a piece purported to come from a Stack's
auction:
http://cgi.ebay.com/HADRIAN-117-138-AD-BRONZE-EX-STACKS-AUCTION-PIECE-INV-2-/230494142080.
Perhaps I am overly skeptical, but the envelope/ticket misspells
"Dupondius," "serpent," and "excellent," the Stack's logo looks like a
Xerox copy, there is no lot number, and the marked price is far in
excess of value, now or ever. This does NOT mean that the coin itself
is counterfeit (it is probably OK, but one can't be certain from the
image), only that the claimed pedigree is dubious.
Bremick
"Bob" <RLWin...@aol.com> wrote in message
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If it's something you want and the price is right, the seller has a 7-day
return option.
Bob
> "Bob" <RLWinne...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:3ba1b807-3312-42c3...@f31g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Some eBay sellers mention that the coin they are selling was purchased
> > from a well-known dealer, which gives a sense of security that the
> > piece is genuine. Here is a piece purported to come from a Stack's
> > auction:
>
>
> > Perhaps I am overly skeptical, but the envelope/ticket misspells
> > "Dupondius," "serpent," and "excellent," the Stack's logo looks like a
> > Xerox copy, there is no lot number, and the marked price is far in
> > excess of value, now or ever. This does NOT mean that the coin itself
> > is counterfeit (it is probably OK, but one can't be certain from the
> > image), only that the claimed pedigree is dubious.
>
> If it's something you want and the price is right, the seller has a 7-day
> return option.
I think what happened here is that the coin really was purchased at a
Stack's auction years ago, but that the estimate was $10 or $15 or
some such low number. The eBay seller Xeroxed the ticket and retyped
the description (with three spelling mistakes), but raised the price
to an absurd $895 to justify his equally absurd starting price of
$195.
Your trust that the seller would honor his return privilege is
heartwarming, in view of his untrustworthy description and price.
Bremick
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If you are collecting a series that you don't feel confident in your ability
to detect counterfeits, then I would pass on that auction. Otherwise, if
you do get it and find it questionable, why worry about a seller with pretty
good feedback and a return privledge? Between the seller, eBay, and PayPal,
you're pretty much assured of not losing your money.
Frank Provasek
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11259, Board member of Texas Coin Dealers Association,
Member TNA, ANA, PCGS, NGC, ICTA - Full Time Since 1991
Bremick
"Frank Provasek" <fr...@frankcoins.com> wrote in message
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> Looks nothing at all like the Stack's auction inserts that I have.
What's the big deal about its pedigree? Either the coin is the real thing
at a reasonable price or it isn't. Not as dangerous as collecting
autographs. Has Stack's never made a mistake?
Frank Provasek
Making false documentation to support a false valuation is a serious
breach
of ethics. The coin is worth about $40
Bremick
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So if both you and Bob recognize that, why make such an issue of it? You
see ridiculously priced auctions of questionable material every day. The
informed bidder ignores them. Your post here suggests that you can confirm
the item is being supported by false documentation. Is this your *opinion*?
Might you be wrong? Might you be interfering with another's ongoing
auction? Does this sound familiar?
Jud
Has Stack's never made a mistake?
One Stack's mistake that is most obvious is the Walton 1913 Liberty
nickel that they said was a fake, but wasn't. Only a million dollar +
mistake.
Jud -Never been wrong, thought I was once, but I was mistaken-