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Voltronicus

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Oct 13, 2008, 3:45:52 PM10/13/08
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Honus

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Oct 13, 2008, 4:27:18 PM10/13/08
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Voltronicus wrote:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190259070047

Bless her heart, the poor girl had Down Syndrome. I never knew.


mazorj

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Oct 13, 2008, 5:34:43 PM10/13/08
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"Voltronicus" <fwd...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190259070047

She looks like Lou Costello with JFK hair.

I don't know what's happened to the art of sculpting portraits on
coins, but too many recent issues are cartoonish. People who ought to
look distinguished come out looking like they turned the job over to
someone who's last commission was a cereal-box token for Elmer Fudd.


oly

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Oct 13, 2008, 7:35:34 PM10/13/08
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On Oct 13, 2:45 pm, Voltronicus <fwdi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190259070047

appears to be typical Pobjoy button-factory crap. Nice to see that
Fwankie has it. I don't suppose he had to pay anything for it (by
which I mean it probably came in with a bunch of other stuff). Also
good to see he didn't spend anything extra illustrating the obverse
side!!!

He may own this one until he donates it to the Richardson Texas Boy
Scouts.

oly

Nobidactivity

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Oct 13, 2008, 11:53:24 PM10/13/08
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Care to explain THIS Frankie-poo?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190259119702

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190251441904

looks like the shill bidder got caught being the high bid. Wonder if
Marshmaker will bid on it again?

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Michael Benveniste

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Oct 14, 2008, 8:26:19 AM10/14/08
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"Nobidactivity" <nobida...@aol.com> wrote:

> looks like the shill bidder got caught being the high bid. Wonder if
> Marshmaker will bid on it again?

Frank and I have had our differences. For example, the claimed "retail"
price of $50 or $55 for this coin is higher than the MS-63 listings
either at PCGS or Coinvaluesonline.

That said, Frank does offer a 14-day return privilege, and there was
plenty of time between these two auctions for the buyer to exercise
it. The buyer has bid on and won other silver dollar auctions at or
near real retail prices.

I see no reason to assume a shill transaction here.

Turning to the original coin, the title claims it's a 1997 Princess
Diana $5 Commemorative, but the description is for a 1990 Battle of
Britain commemorative $5 coin. Now _that_ would make an interesting
(and ironic) muled coin.

--
Michael Benveniste -- m...@murkyether.com (Clarification required)
Don't look back. The lemmings are gaining on you.


note.boy

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Oct 14, 2008, 1:31:42 PM10/14/08
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"mazorj" <maz...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Very true, even the Royal Mint portraits have gone down the tubes. Billy


oly

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Oct 14, 2008, 1:46:35 PM10/14/08
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On Oct 14, 12:31 pm, "note.boy" <note....@naespamntlworld.com> wrote:
> "mazorj" <maz...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> > "Voltronicus" <fwdi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> >>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190259070047
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> > She looks like Lou Costello with JFK hair.
>
> > I don't know what's happened to the art of sculpting portraits on coins,
> > but too many recent issues are cartoonish.  People who ought to look
> > distinguished come out looking like they turned the job over to someone
> > who's last commission was a cereal-box token for Elmer Fudd.
>
> Very true, even the Royal Mint portraits have gone down the tubes.  Billy

I'm not certain that the Royal Mint doesn't have a problem with the
people who operate/manioulate the coin presses more than the die work
itself. The newest sovereigns and half sovereigns don't always strike
well, yet those designs have been in existence a long time.

oly

Voltronicus

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Oct 14, 2008, 2:32:26 PM10/14/08
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On Oct 14, 1:31 pm, "note.boy" <note....@naespamntlworld.com> wrote:

> Very true, even the Royal Mint portraits have gone down the tubes.  Billy

The latest protrait of the Queen is horrid.

Frank Provasek

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Oct 14, 2008, 4:13:50 PM10/14/08
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The US circulating coins are cartoonish parodies of the original
designs.

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Frank Provasek Rare Coins
http://www.frankcoins.com Ebay FRANKCOINS
Member ANA, Texas Numismatic Assoc, Texas Coin Dealers Assoc,
PCGS dealer, Full Time Dealer since 1991, Texas Auctioneer Lic 11259

Voltronicus

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Oct 14, 2008, 4:19:02 PM10/14/08
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On Oct 14, 4:13 pm, Frank Provasek <fr...@frankcoins.com> wrote:
> The US circulating coins are cartoonish parodies of the original designs.

What "original designs"?

oly

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Oct 14, 2008, 4:25:50 PM10/14/08
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Actually, I can appreciate that the Fourth Portrait (by Ian Rank-
Broadley) is probably fairly honest (as was Victoria's Veiled Head
portrait).

H.M. is, of course, 82 years old.

The Fourth Portrait may be too large in comparison to the size of the
smaller coins - it may take up too much of the field. This could be
one reason why the sovereigns and half-sovereigns don't seem to strike
up as fully as in the past.

The Canadian Dora dePedrey-Hunt portrait of H.M. - now that qualifies
as horrid (and it was probably intentionally so, as the government of
that day wanted to repatriate "The Constitution" and ditch the ties to
the Commonwealth and the Throne - they only got the first part
accomplished).

I know that if my honest profile portrait were on a coin, it would
look a bit like William IV, but bald and rather worse than Old Sailor
Billy (that is to say, a bit along the lines of hammered SHXT). And I
am just at 50.

What would your portrait look like, RF???

oly

Voltronicus

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Oct 14, 2008, 5:34:23 PM10/14/08
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On Oct 14, 4:25 pm, oly <oly2...@aol.com> wrote:

> What would your portrait look like, RF???

I daresay my profile would likely be compared with the late, great
John Barrymore ;)

Jesse

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Oct 15, 2008, 12:57:45 AM10/15/08
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Voltronicus <fwd...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:487de9b2-9ad4-401e-871d-
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> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190259070047

Ouch, looks like a post mortem paparazzi portrait to me

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