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Population left of 1896 Barber Half-Dollar Coins (From Philadelphioa MINT)

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STILL SEARCHING

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Jul 26, 2010, 1:13:23 PM7/26/10
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What is the current ESTIMATED Population of 1896 Barber Half-Dollar
Coins?

I verified the Philadelphia MINT produced 950,000 (950K) 1896 Barber
Half-Dollar Coins. Obviously all 950,000 coins don't exist due to
abuse, loss, fire, war or other reasons. It's also important to
mention this is NOT New Orleans or San Francisco Mint.

Basicallly: What is ESTIMATED population of this 1896 coin?


If you can also give me the URL since I've Googled this for hours and
found no such information.


thanks!

dlhii

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Jul 26, 2010, 5:22:16 PM7/26/10
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STILL SEARCHING <Search...@Family.names> wrote:


Now I'm far from any expert on the subject.
There isn't any hard number for any coin to determine current
population. There have been many silver melts and I perceive a few
copper melts as will as wear and tear. No one sat and cataloged what
was being tossed into the vat.

Don

oly

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Jul 26, 2010, 10:34:39 PM7/26/10
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On Jul 26, 11:13 am, STILL SEARCHING <Searching...@Family.names>
wrote:

My miscellaneous thoughts follow and I'm not near my coin library
right now:

You aren't going to find much hard information, maybe Q.D. Bowers has
some educated speculations in his recent Whitman books...

The problem with the Barber coins series is that at the "natural"
point in time when people might have pulled them out and saved them
(about ten or fifteen years after the overall 1916 design change(s),
and about the time when people born about 1890 normally would have
become both prosperous and nostalgic about the days of their youth),
well the scouring Great Depression came along.

The 1890s and 1900s decades' coins that might have been saved in
better times, they kept circulating in the 1930s (out of sheer and
dire economic necessity) for another decade, and many were worn down
to a basal state.

I did know a lot of older gentlemen who were working men and farmers
in the 1930s. In every case, they couldn't have held on to a half
dollar coin for anything other than a short-term reserve that well
might have to be spent for necessities in the Nineteen-Thirties. For
the farmers, they didn't handle much cash money at all, although they
were in many ways more secure than many other working folks who lived
hand-to-mouth.

If you speculate that 5% to 10% of the original 1890s MINOR silver
coin mintages exist today in numismatic hands in collectable
condition, you might be right.

Then the question is, does that surviving 5% to 10% exceed the actual
number of people putting together date sets?

oly

oly

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Jul 26, 2010, 10:47:32 PM7/26/10
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Ivor Noel Hume, a noted collector, writer (The Best Rubbish) and
practical archaeologist, says that 90% of all human written records
and human artifacts goes by the wayside... and often the process of
destruction is remarkably and uncomfortably quicker and sooner than we
poor mortals would imagine.

oly

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Jul 26, 2010, 11:26:29 PM7/26/10
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On The Date of Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:34:39 -0700 (PDT), oly
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How about this scenario: It's the Year 2011 and the government
re-issued $10,000 bills for public use not just institutions or gov't
angencies.

I doubt 1/2 of 1% of the population would even collect such a bill,
most, with these economic troubles, would spend that $10K Bill as fast
as possible.

Go back to 1896, 50 cents is a damn good amount of money. Enough to
buy 3 days of non perishable food or a nice pair of pants and one
shirt. So a fella in 1896 would more likely spend it, as we'd spend
our $10K Bill today, simply due to that unit of currency compared to
the prevailing wages and costs of daily life.

Boy I hope that made sense and I didn't just say key Manchurian
phrases for the next James Earl Ray or Boothe to proceed with his
'fullfillment.'

STILL SEARCHING

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Jul 26, 2010, 11:35:50 PM7/26/10
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Of course I didn't ask for an exact number or even an educated
estimate, more like I ask for an Estimate based on the typical
produced vs existing for all coins of that 1896 era.

From my baseball card collecting brain I wouldn't think 20,000 of the
produced 950,000 exist anywhere, collected or accidently hidden in
safes etc.


So if I had a record of the Beattles that sold 950K copies in britan
before invading America with their communism I'd expect many to have
chucked or thrown away those 1960s England-only releases.


Then again, I have an IQ below 135, have never made more than $178,000
per year and was never best buds with General Sun Tzu.

On The Date of Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:34:39 -0700 (PDT), oly
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mazorj

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Jul 27, 2010, 9:19:46 AM7/27/10
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> On The Date of Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:34:39 -0700 (PDT), oly
> <oly...@aol.com> Said:

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> Boy I hope that made sense and I didn't just say key Manchurian
> phrases for the next James Earl Ray or Boothe to proceed with his
> 'fullfillment.'

Operation Killjoy now activated, 13 RCC posters targeted. Others advised to
stay indoors until further notice.

Operation Barber Pole has been elevated to ready state. Holders of Barber
halves are advised to sell now before shipment of 100,000 Chinese fakes
arrives.

- Bill Donovan Surrogate #27

Richard L Hall

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Jul 27, 2010, 10:13:56 AM7/27/10
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PCGS estimates about 2500 exist in all grades. Some how, I managed to get
into PCGS's Coin Facts without a subscription. I thought that population
was kind of low so tried searching elsewhere and then couldn't get in to
Coin Facts a second time. Bummer!

My 2002 PCGS population report says 105 had been graded, about on a par with
others of the same period.


--
Richard
http://coins.richlh.com/MyCoinLinks.htm


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>
> Ivor Noel Hume, a noted collector, writer (The Best Rubbish) and
> practical archaeologist, says that 90% of all human written records
> and human artifacts goes by the wayside... and often the process of
> destruction is remarkably and uncomfortably quicker and sooner than we
> poor mortals would imagine.
>
> oly
>
>

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