ICCS - Candian coin grading service?
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web site, only references to it. Help would be appreciated.
Thanks.
~Anka
Mr. Jaggers
Here's an auction showing one of their "slabs" - actually a heat-sealed
Saflip.
Beyond that I'll defer to RWF, who has considerable experience with
ICCS-graded coins. RWF, ya there?
James
Arizona Coin Collector
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Hello
You might want to try the link shown below. I hope it helps.
http://www.canadiancoincertification.com/
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RWF
> web site, only references to it. Help would be appreciated.
ICCS is highly regarded among collectors of Canadian coinage.
They package their graded coins in double-sealed soft plastic flips.
For some reason they don't have a web presence, a lack that many find
puzzling.
RWF
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CCCS is a completely different service than ICCS.
I have several CCCS graded Canadian coins and find them to be accurately
graded for the most part.
CCCS was sealing its coins in soft plastic flips (like ICCS) but has
recently begun offering the option of a hard plastic case at a slight
additional cost.
Mr. Jaggers
Close, but no cigar. The OP was asking about ICCS, a different TPG.
James
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> Has anyone ever heard of/dealt with this outfit? I cannot find their
> web site, only references to it. Help would be appreciated.
International Coin Certification Service
2010 Yonge Street
Ste 202
Toronto, Ontorio
Canada M4S 1Z9
Phone 416-488-8620
Fax 416-488-6371
They are the Canadian "PCGS".
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICCS
International Coin Certification Service (ICCS) is a third-party appraisal
service for grading coins. It determines the condition and authenticity[1]
of each coin it grades to provide consumers with a rating on which to judge
the coin. It was founded in 1986, and is located in Toronto, Ontario. The
company will grade coins from most countries but is particularly known for
grading coins of the Canadian dollar. ICCS is respected for offering
conservative and consistent grades. They currently package coins they have
certified in a PET film envelope which is sealed in an outer flip style
envelope. The other side of the flip is sealed with the ICCS grading
certificate. The certificate shows the assigned grade, a certification
number and any comments, (cleaned, coin variety, etc), that apply to the
coin. The company recognizes major varieties and many minor ones.
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http://www.coinoisseur.com/GradingCoins.html
The leading coin grading services that grade Canadian coins are:
Canadian Coin Certification Service (CCCS) in Longueuil, QC -
www.canadiancoincertification.com
International Coin Certification Service (ICCS) in Toronto, Ontario -
416-488-8620
Numismatic Guaranty Corporation (NGC) in Parsippany, New Jersey -
www.ngccoin.com
Professional Coin Grading Service (PCGS) in Newport Beach, California -
www.pcgs.com
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Find some more info here:
http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=36414
http://reviews.ebay.com/ICCS-NGC-Canada-PL-crossover-certified-coin-grading_W0QQugidZ10000000005904215
http://www.canadiancoin.com/
Mr. Jaggers
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> CCCS is a completely different service than ICCS.
> I have several CCCS graded Canadian coins and find them to be
> accurately graded for the most part.
> CCCS was sealing its coins in soft plastic flips (like ICCS) but has
> recently begun offering the option of a hard plastic case at a slight
> additional cost.
You may have discussed this previously, but a few issues are worth bringing
up again:
1) How is it that two supposedly independent third-party grading companies
chose nearly identical (and very different from those of U.S. TPGs)
packaging formats?
2) Wouldn't it be relatively easy to fake such packaging? I'm thinking
that there have to be items such as 1921 Canadian 50c pieces and
Newfoundland 1873H 5-cent pieces residing in them.
3) Have any fakes of these packages been confirmed?
TIA,
James
RWF
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> 1) How is it that two supposedly independent third-party grading
> companies chose nearly identical (and very different from those of
> U.S. TPGs) packaging formats?
Beats me.
> 2) Wouldn't it be relatively easy to fake such packaging? I'm
> thinking that there have to be items such as 1921 Canadian 50c pieces
> and Newfoundland 1873H 5-cent pieces residing in them.
All packaging is relatively easy to fake, although the flips used by
ICCS & CCCS seem to be especially vunerable.
> 3) Have any fakes of these packages been confirmed?
If they have, it hasn't been reported by Canadian Coin News or the RCNA.
Mr. Jaggers
How is the editorial content of CCN these days? I used to subscribe years
ago, but somehow managed to let my subscription lapse. I'm not actively
collecting Canadian any longer, but always enjoyed the publication.
James
ank...@aol.com
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All,
Thanks so much for the information. My husband (the collector of
Canadian coins in this house) thanks you too.
~Anka
RWF
> How is the editorial content of CCN these days? I used to subscribe
> years ago, but somehow managed to let my subscription lapse. I'm not
> actively collecting Canadian any longer, but always enjoyed the
> publication.
I enjoy CCN.
All the latest news on RCM issues.
Recently there has been an interesting series on Canadian error coins,
an ongoing column about ancients and, of course, the trends.
It is a bit pricey for a bi-weekly publication though.
Mr. Jaggers
I could probably do without all the RCM announcements, but the error coin
series sounds neat, and trends are always of interest. I wonder if they are
any more accurate than U.S. price guides.
I'd just monetize the subscription cost under "numismatic tuition" and sleep
comfortably afterward.
BTW, Pierre Charest has just released the 6th edition of his Canadian
variety book. I just purchased the CD version and recommend it,
particularly if you don't have any of the earlier ones.
James
RWF
> BTW, Pierre Charest has just released the 6th edition of his Canadian
> variety book. I just purchased the CD version and recommend it,
> particularly if you don't have any of the earlier ones.
I'm not familiar with this.
Give me more information, like where to buy it, etc.
Mr. Jaggers
You can get the info here:
http://www.pcfleet.com/book/en/index.htm
That link puts you heavily into Java, so it may take a while to settle down.
Also, I occasionally get a message from my AV saying that it just blocked an
attack on my computer, but nothing has ever come of it. You can buy it as a
hard-copy book or as a CD. I like the CD, as I'm not sure how a book might
survive the depredations of the two postal systems. Either way, it takes
its good old time getting through customs. But his diagnostic diagrams are
among the best I've seen for Canadian coins. YMMV, of course.
James
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I've come across many U.S. coins in I.C.C.S graded flips Ebay auctions.I've
bid on a few but haven't won one yet.For the most part they bring a premium
over ANACs,ICG etc.
RWF
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ICCS will grade any coin (AFAIK) but since they are in Canada, the
majority of their graded coins are Canadian.
Frank Provasek
Yes, I bought a Capped Bust half that ICCS graded VF20 and PCGS graded
it XF40.
Ebay will end the auctions for ICCS coins described as such if the
auction is originated on
the US Ebay site in all cases, AND on the Canadian Ebay site if the
coin is available to US buyers UNLESS
the bidding is listed in Canadian dollars.