$1M in gold coins, cash seized at border
Arizona Coin Collector
This is before Julian Leidman coins was taken. I was
looking at the dates. Notice the word "Kilometers"
spelled wrong in the story below. It is possible that
that the spelling is correct in Canada.
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FROM:
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/cbc/091023/canada/canada_britishcolumbia_bc_gold_coins_seized_border_1
$1M in gold coins, cash seized at border
2 hours, 56 minutes ago
VANCOUVER (CBC) - A man who tried to enter B.C. from
the United States with about $1 million worth of gold
coins and cash may face criminal charges, Canadian
border officials say.
The man whose name has not been released tried to
enter the country through the Peace Arch crossing in
Surrey, B.C., on Oct. 6. The Canada Border Services
Agency said Canadian gold coins found were in a chest
in a duffle bag.
It's a crime to carry more $10,000 in undeclared funds
into Canada, and investigators say charges could be
laid under the Proceeds of Crime and Terrorist
Financing Act.
"[We are] continuing our investigation into the funds
themselves, the source of the funds and their intended
use," RCMP Insp. Paul Richards of the Integrated
National Security Enforcement Team told CBC News on
Friday.
Border officials said the alleged smuggler is a foreign
national but would not say which country he is from.
He remains in custody.
The Peace Arch crossing is about 40 kilometres south
of Vancouver.
..
Mr. Jaggers
> Hello
>
> This is before Julian Leidman coins was taken. I was
> looking at the dates. Notice the word "Kilometers"
> spelled wrong in the story below. It is possible that
> that the spelling is correct in Canada.
Not just possible, but official. The French version looks like this:
kilom�tres
James the Voyageur
Peter
>
> James the Voyageur
If you drop the accent over the first e, it is correct according to
English as it is written in England. Inasmuch as Canada has more
recently been under England (than some of the other American colonies
to the south) they would tend toward that spelling unless trying to
charm their neighbors to the south.
"Roßert G. Schaffrath"
> On Oct 23, 9:38 pm, "Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote:
>> Arizona Coin Collector wrote:
>>> Hello
>>> This is before Julian Leidman coins was taken. I was
>>> looking at the dates. Notice the word "Kilometers"
>>> spelled wrong in the story below. It is possible that
>>> that the spelling is correct in Canada.
>> Not just possible, but official. The French version looks like this:
>>
>> James the Voyageur
>
> If you drop the accent over the first e, it is correct according to
> English as it is written in England. Inasmuch as Canada has more
> recently been under England (than some of the other American colonies
> to the south) they would tend toward that spelling unless trying to
> charm their neighbors to the south.
Of course the Canadians do have their own unique way of spelling things
too. In Britain, there would be a Tyre Center but in Canada it is a
Tire Centre. In the United States it would be a Tire Center.
Mr. Jaggers
What in the world are you talking aboot? 8>)
James the Canuck
Scott Stevenson
Hey, no Canadian Raising allowed! And get yer feet off the
chesterfield!
Ten years in radio, and a couple more doing voice-overs at work has
given me very "rounded" vowels when I talk. About once a year,
somebody hears me talk, and asks if I'm Canadian.
take care,
Scott
hears it more like "a bewt"
mazorj
"Scott Stevenson" <almostf...@UCKSAY.comcast.net> wrote in message
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So are you Canadian, Scott? The reason I ask is that extensive formal
public speaking experience (and radio is public speaking) tends to produce a
distinctive style of enunciation, pacing, pitch, and of course,
pronunciation, particularly in the vowels. Sometimes this "speaking voice"
bears little resemblance to the speaker's native voicing, especially when
it's a "broadcast voice".
IOW, did you come by your a-bewt honestly as a Canadian, or was this
something you picked up in the course of your work? I have a lifelong
fascination with language, so this is more than idle curiosity.
- mazorj, whose Southern relatives literally cannot hear the vowel
difference between "pin" and "pen"
Jud
> - mazorj, whose Southern relatives literally cannot hear the vowel
> difference between "pin" and "pen"
LOL!!! Boy did that bring me back! My freshman year roommate was from
West Virginia. He once said "Jud, give me a 'pea-yen'". I handed him a
Bic pen. He said "No! I don't want a 'pea-yen', I want a 'pea-yen'" I
asked him what the difference was between a 'pea-yen' and a 'pea-yen'.
He said "One is a writin' 'pea-yen' the other is a stick 'pea-yen'.
42 years later, and I still laugh about that one.
Jud - "I don't have an accent"
Mr. Jaggers
I never met a diphthong that I didn't lie-eeck.
Jayeemes
mazorj
"Jud" <numis...@aol.com> wrote in message
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At first I couldn't believe their literal inability to hear the
difference between pin and pen. After several carefully sounded out
repetitions - "Pin... pen... pin...pen..." - I realized that they
actually cannot hear them differently. It's akin to the fact that
native Japanese speakers cannot pronounce (and perhaps cannot hear)
the letter L. (This made words like "lollapalooza" popular as sentry
password challenges in the Pacific theater of WW2. "Halt, who goes
there?" "Rorraparooza." "Bang!")
Anyway, this explained to me the seemingly redundant southern terms
"ink pen" and "stick pin". What kind of pen doesn't have ink in it?
What kind of pin won't stick you with its pointy end? Oh, now I see.
They really do need the redundancy.
mazorj
"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
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Realtor: Madam, this house is perfectly flawless."
Southern Belle: "My goodness! What do y'all waw-ak on?"
Two spinster belles having their first photograph taken together:
"What's he doin' now, fiddlin' with that big ol' camera?"
"I think he's gettin' set to focus."
"Good Low-ard! Both of us?"
- mazor-jay-uh
Mr. Jaggers
When we tell that second story here in North Lugburz, we...nah, I better not
go there.
James the Hesitant
oly
>
> - Show quoted text -
Bofus???
oly
mazorj
"oly" <oly...@aol.com> wrote in message
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I think that joke dates back to Daguerre. Or at least to Matthew
Brady when he was was touring southern battlefields.
> James the Hesitant- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
<
< Bofus???
<
<oly
Actually, I originally spelled it that way, then tried "both-uns" and
rejected it as well because already the shtick was thick with patois.
- mazorj, Persnickety Purveyor of Patois
Mr. Jaggers
I once tried a shtick that was thick with patois and felt sick for three
days afterward. I think it might have been the patois de foie gras that did
it.
James the Nattering Nabob of Neologisms
mazorj
"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
Only cows and horses should eat grass on a stick, James.
Next time you're in a snooty French restaurant, even a retired French
instructor should ask for a translation of the menu items. There was
a Great French Vowel and Consonant Change with the onset of nouvelle
cuisine.
Mr. Jaggers
When in college, one of my profs hosted a French dinner for the class at his
house. He told us we'd be having "Cervelles de Vieux Hiboux". That
convinced us to always carry a decoder card into French restaurants whenever
we went.
James the Brainy Old Owl
Scott Stevenson
wrote:
>So are you Canadian, Scott? The reason I ask is that extensive formal
>public speaking experience (and radio is public speaking) tends to produce a
>distinctive style of enunciation, pacing, pitch, and of course,
>pronunciation, particularly in the vowels. Sometimes this "speaking voice"
>bears little resemblance to the speaker's native voicing, especially when
>it's a "broadcast voice".
Nope--lived my whole life in California. I'd say that my "announcer
voice" is really "my voice +" The pitch and pacing are the same, but
the pronunciation, especially the vowels, is different. It's closer
than it was 20 years ago, but it's because I've noticed that my
"normal" voice has moved. Just as an example, the "And don't call me
Shirley" thing doesn't work too well, because I really pronounce it
like "shure lee"
>
>IOW, did you come by your a-bewt honestly as a Canadian, or was this
>something you picked up in the course of your work? I have a lifelong
>fascination with language, so this is more than idle curiosity.
I had a production director who was really a stickler for getting
things right. If I was doing a Canadian in a bit, and said "aboot",
we'd work on it until it was right. It's tough for me to describe the
difference between "aboot" and "a-bewt", although I can pronounce it.
The closest I can come is to say that "oot" is voiced closer to the
tongue, while "ewt" is closer to the roof of the mouth.
We'd end up spending a lot of time on stuff like that, and I've got
a pretty good ear, so I ended up doing a lot of the "odd voice" stuff.
Let's just say that back in the day, if you never say a 6' 250 lb guy
with a mullet and a full beard sounding like Julia Child, you haven't
seen Shakespeare the way it was meant to be done.
It's actually easier for me to tell where someone is from by the
work "progress". "Pro gress" puts them north of the border, "Prah
gress"=American.
>
>- mazorj, whose Southern relatives literally cannot hear the vowel
>difference between "pin" and "pen"
First time in a restaurant in Tennessee, I ordered iced tea with my
meal. The waitress said "Sweetie?", and I thought she was hitting on
me.
take care,
Scott
"Pickering! I was going to India to meet you!"
Jud
was told to take a left hand turn at the "Tin-Sin-Stow". I asked for
the directions to be repeated, and it was, same as the first time.
Rather than show my ignorance, I continued driving until I came to a
Woolworth's. Oh! A 10-cent-store! A 5 and dime!
Jud- Dumb Yankee
mazorj
From years of listening to CBC's "As It Happens" on public radio, I
can hear that difference too, just don't ask me to voice it.
> We'd end up spending a lot of time on stuff like that, and I've got
> a pretty good ear, so I ended up doing a lot of the "odd voice"
> stuff.
> Let's just say that back in the day, if you never say a 6' 250 lb
> guy
> with a mullet and a full beard sounding like Julia Child, you
> haven't
> seen Shakespeare the way it was meant to be done.
>
> It's actually easier for me to tell where someone is from by the
> work "progress". "Pro gress" puts them north of the border, "Prah
> gress"=American.
Yes, that's a very good marker. It gets my attention every time I
hear it.
>>- mazorj, whose Southern relatives literally cannot hear the vowel
>>difference between "pin" and "pen"
>
> First time in a restaurant in Tennessee, I ordered iced tea with my
> meal. The waitress said "Sweetie?", and I thought she was hitting
> on me.
>
> take care,
And you take care in not mistaking "sweet tea" for a come on.
Especially if the tattooed muscle-bound cook at the counter happens to
be her boyfriend or Big Bubba. Ditto for "Hon" which is a generic
non-personal term of endearment used indiscriminately by waitresses as
far north as Bawl'mer, where it is enshrined in everyday conversation
of all sorts. ;-)
I'm mildly surprised that she asked you at all, though. In most
southern environs, tea = sweet tea, sugared to cloying levels of
sweetness. Unsweetened tea is as unimaginable to them as pastrami on
white bread with mayo would be to a Noo Yawker. Maybe she took you
for a "Yankee" (or even a Canadian) who might not want the standard
local brew.
Thanks for the linguistic background, which I always find interesting.
> Scott
> "Pickering! I was going to India to meet you!"
I think he's in Arlington, VA now.
Bruce Remick
"mazorj" <maz...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Along with darlin', usually used upon departure. Hi, hon. Y'all come back
darlin'.
My wife was raised in Bawl'mer and I soon realized that they like to add an
"L" when pronouncing most words ending in "aw", like draw(l), saw(l), etc.
My young daughter once got marked down on a test by writing "drawl a
picture" because that's what she heard mommy say. Thank goodness for little
things, in that she never listened to this former Rhode Islander.
Jud
> Along with darlin', usually used upon departure. Hi, hon. Y'all come back
> darlin'.
>
> My wife was raised in Bawl'mer and I soon realized that they like to add an
> "L" when pronouncing most words ending in "aw", like draw(l), saw(l), etc.
> My young daughter once got marked down on a test by writing "drawl a
> picture" because that's what she heard mommy say. Thank goodness for little
> things, in that she never listened to this former Rhode Islander.
OK, ya got me! This is one of my favorite topics, as off-topic as it
is. Even though I grew up in New England, it wasn't until I moved to
Maine that I truly heard the Yankee accent, which is totally different
than a Boston accent by the way. In Boston, your vehicle is pronounced
"Kah" where in Maine it is pronounced "Keh". In most of New England
the addition and removal of the letter 'R' is prevalent. Lobstah,
chowdah, etc as well as Cuber (Cuba), Atlanter (Atlanta), etc. I
worked with a native Mainer (no, we are not Mainiacs...well, maybe)
whose last name was Parker. She pronounced it "Pahkah". I asked her
how she pronounced the heavy winter coat, and she said "Parker". From
then on, she was known as Tina Overcoat. BTW, a raincoat is known as a
"Slickah" (Slicker).
Another girl I worked with was talking about a friend who had PSDS. I
thought that it was some strange disease that I had never heard as an
acronym before. Turns out she was talking about someone who had
'Pierced Ears'! DOH!!
To add emphasis, use the word 'Wicked'. Something can be either wicked
good, or wicked bad. We drive wicked fast, and the women are wicked
beautiful.
They really talk this way, not just for the tourists!
Jud - Still learning to speak 'Downeast'
mazorj
"Bruce Remick" <rem...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Ack, how could I have missed that one? Thanks.
> My wife was raised in Bawl'mer and I soon realized that they like to add
> an "L" when pronouncing most words ending in "aw", like draw(l), saw(l),
> etc. My young daughter once got marked down on a test by writing "drawl a
> picture" because that's what she heard mommy say. Thank goodness for
> little things, in that she never listened to this former Rhode Islander.
Conversely, in the Baltimore-Philadelphia corridor they tend to swallow the
L's that are actually there. "Love" comes out with the L sounding more like
a stifled, garbled gargle followed by the word "of". It comes from holding
the tongue on the floor of the mouth when forming the L sound instead of to
the roof of the mouth. Even Tom Brokaw, the veteran broadcast journalist
from Philadelphia, could be heard regularly swallowing his L's when he
anchored the evening news.
Unfortunately, these regional distinctions are being lost in the
homogenizing blenders of education, relocation, and national radio/TV.
Speaking of the Charm of the Chesapeake, 35 years ago in not-so-far away
Easton, I heard a local refer to a salary of "noin thewsand dawlers". I
knew that traces of Elizabethan English could be found to the west in the
Appalachians but I realized that the Eastern Shore also was a linguistic
backwater where British accents lingered on. Baltimore seems to have more
Cockney in it; but eventually they all will fall victim to linguistic
entropy. Except for immigrants, we will all sound more and more like each
other. The only places where local patois will dominate on are in the
neighborhoods and rural enclaves of the deeply ingrained local native
populations.
And in a token effort to get on topic, on NPR I just heard the British metal
detectorist who discovered the Anglo-Saxon Hoard with all those loverly
coins. He said he found numerous "oitems". Those oitems are worth
considerably more than "noin thewsand dawlers," I reckon.
mazorj
Nice distinctions you've made heah, Jud. Have we stumbled across a vein of
linguistic interests in rcc?
In a similar vein, "Southern" is not a monolithic block of singular "y'all"
accents. I can identify at least 8 different flavors just on their
distinctive markers, and probably more than a dozen doing A-B comparisons.
Ditto for other regional variations in pronunciation and vocabulary. I'm
just not as good as Professor 'Enry 'Iggens, who could tell which side of
which street of which city or village you were born in. :-)
Bruce Remick
"Jud" <numis...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Along with darlin', usually used upon departure. Hi, hon. Y'all come back
> darlin'.
>
> My wife was raised in Bawl'mer and I soon realized that they like to add
> an
> "L" when pronouncing most words ending in "aw", like draw(l), saw(l), etc.
> My young daughter once got marked down on a test by writing "drawl a
> picture" because that's what she heard mommy say. Thank goodness for
> little
> things, in that she never listened to this former Rhode Islander.
OK, ya got me! This is one of my favorite topics, as off-topic as it
is. Even though I grew up in New England, it wasn't until I moved to
Maine that I truly heard the Yankee accent, which is totally different
than a Boston accent by the way. In Boston, your vehicle is pronounced
"Kah" where in Maine it is pronounced "Keh". In most of New England
the addition and removal of the letter 'R' is prevalent. Lobstah,
chowdah, etc as well as Cuber (Cuba), Atlanter (Atlanta), etc. I
worked with a native Mainer (no, we are not Mainiacs...well, maybe)
whose last name was Parker. She pronounced it "Pahkah". I asked her
how she pronounced the heavy winter coat, and she said "Parker". From
then on, she was known as Tina Overcoat. BTW, a raincoat is known as a
"Slickah" (Slicker).
_______________
Actually, we don't drop the "R" altogether. We often carry it over if the
next word begins with a vowel. "That kah ris wicked." And Cuba,
f'rinstance is usually pronounced "Cuber" in that same circumstance.
Otherwise most of us non-Kennedy's simply said Cuba.
In my small area of Rhode Island, we actually could discern slight dialect
differences from kids who lived only few miles away. Honest!
______________________
Another girl I worked with was talking about a friend who had PSDS. I
thought that it was some strange disease that I had never heard as an
acronym before. Turns out she was talking about someone who had
'Pierced Ears'! DOH!!
____________
Aaaak! That's an old RI joke.
_____________________
To add emphasis, use the word 'Wicked'. Something can be either wicked
good, or wicked bad. We drive wicked fast, and the women are wicked
beautiful.
_____________________
We often used that word, but never as an modifier. Simply saying that a
woman was "wicked" made the point. I suppose that rule has changed since I
was a teenager. It's been almost fifty years now since I left RI for the
Army and I still have not lost all traces of New England speech after 40
years in Virginia, according to people I meet. But whenever I return and
talk to the locals, I tend to revert to "native" speech in a day or so.
Kinda fun.
som...@some.domain
>On Oct 26, 5:02=A0pm, "Bruce Remick" <rem...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> Along with =A0darlin', usually used upon departure. =A0Hi, hon. =A0Y'all =
>come back
>> darlin'.
>>
>> My wife was raised in Bawl'mer and I soon realized that they like to add =
>an
>> "L" when pronouncing most words ending in "aw", like draw(l), saw(l), etc=
>..
>> My young daughter once got marked down on a test by writing "drawl a
>ittle
>> things, in that she never listened to this former Rhode Islander.
>
>OK, ya got me! This is one of my favorite topics, as off-topic as it
>is. Even though I grew up in New England, it wasn't until I moved to
>Maine that I truly heard the Yankee accent, which is totally different
>than a Boston accent by the way. In Boston, your vehicle is pronounced
>"Kah" where in Maine it is pronounced "Keh". In most of New England
>the addition and removal of the letter 'R' is prevalent. Lobstah,
>chowdah, etc as well as Cuber (Cuba), Atlanter (Atlanta), etc. I
>worked with a native Mainer (no, we are not Mainiacs...well, maybe)
>whose last name was Parker. She pronounced it "Pahkah". I asked her
>how she pronounced the heavy winter coat, and she said "Parker". From
>then on, she was known as Tina Overcoat. BTW, a raincoat is known as a
>"Slickah" (Slicker).
>
>Another girl I worked with was talking about a friend who had PSDS. I
>thought that it was some strange disease that I had never heard as an
>acronym before. Turns out she was talking about someone who had
>'Pierced Ears'! DOH!!
>
>To add emphasis, use the word 'Wicked'. Something can be either wicked
>good, or wicked bad. We drive wicked fast, and the women are wicked
>beautiful.
>
>They really talk this way, not just for the tourists!
>
>Jud - Still learning to speak 'Downeast'
>
som...@some.domain
>On Oct 26, 5:02=A0pm, "Bruce Remick" <rem...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> Along with =A0darlin', usually used upon departure. =A0Hi, hon. =A0Y'all =
>> darlin'.
>>
>> My wife was raised in Bawl'mer and I soon realized that they like to add =
>an
>> "L" when pronouncing most words ending in "aw", like draw(l), saw(l), etc=
>..
>> My young daughter once got marked down on a test by writing "drawl a
>ittle
>
>OK, ya got me! This is one of my favorite topics, as off-topic as it
>is. Even though I grew up in New England, it wasn't until I moved to
>Maine that I truly heard the Yankee accent, which is totally different
>than a Boston accent by the way. In Boston, your vehicle is pronounced
>"Kah" where in Maine it is pronounced "Keh". In most of New England
>the addition and removal of the letter 'R' is prevalent. Lobstah,
>chowdah, etc as well as Cuber (Cuba), Atlanter (Atlanta), etc. I
>worked with a native Mainer (no, we are not Mainiacs...well, maybe)
>whose last name was Parker. She pronounced it "Pahkah". I asked her
>how she pronounced the heavy winter coat, and she said "Parker". From
>then on, she was known as Tina Overcoat. BTW, a raincoat is known as a
>"Slickah" (Slicker).
>
>Another girl I worked with was talking about a friend who had PSDS. I
>thought that it was some strange disease that I had never heard as an
>acronym before. Turns out she was talking about someone who had
>'Pierced Ears'! DOH!!
>
>To add emphasis, use the word 'Wicked'. Something can be either wicked
>good, or wicked bad. We drive wicked fast, and the women are wicked
>beautiful.
>
>They really talk this way, not just for the tourists!
>
>Jud - Still learning to speak 'Downeast'
>
there are 3 accents for dohchestah, two for mefferd, two for summaville,
(winter hill and high school 'hoods.) and the back bay brahmin. cambridge has
no intelligent speech observed.
brahmin is easy, swallow your tongue, be rich and full of shit.
mazorj
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> brahmin is easy, swallow your tongue, be rich and full of shit.
Which reminds me of what Rich Little or some other impersonator told Johnny
Carson about how he did his George H. W. Bush voice (Bush Sr., not the
shrub):
"I just do my John Wayne voice <speaking here in the Duke's style> and
tighten up my ass <sliding up the vocal scale> until I sound like the
President."
Carson totally lost it there, as did the rest of the audience.
som...@some.domain
>
><som...@some.domain> wrote in message
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>
>> brahmin is easy, swallow your tongue, be rich and full of shit.
>
>Which reminds me of what Rich Little or some other impersonator told Johnny
>Carson about how he did his George H. W. Bush voice (Bush Sr., not the
>shrub):
>
>"I just do my John Wayne voice <speaking here in the Duke's style> and
>tighten up my ass <sliding up the vocal scale> until I sound like the
>President."
>
>Carson totally lost it there, as did the rest of the audience.
>
Jud
> Another girl I worked with was talking about a friend who had PSDS. I
> thought that it was some strange disease that I had never heard as an
> acronym before. Turns out she was talking about someone who had
> 'Pierced Ears'! DOH!!
> ____________
>
This was no joke! It truly happened.
>
> We often used that word, but never as an modifier. Simply saying that a
> woman was "wicked" made the point.
I should qualify that statement. Yes, "Wicked" can be used as a
modifier, or as a stand alone declarative.